The Peter Zeihan Podcast Series - China's "Diversionary" War with Taiwan: The Good, Bad and Ugly || Peter Zeihan

Episode Date: September 26, 2023

China invading Taiwan isn't a new topic, but would China ever use this war as a diversion or distraction? This is an unlikely scenario, but as long as Xi is in charge, we must consider every possibili...ty.Full Newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/zeihan/chinas-diversionary-war-with-taiwan-the-good-bad-and-ugly

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Everybody, Peter Zine here, coming to you from Colorado. Now, last week I released a video on why none of us should be really surprised if the Chinese system falls apart. We'll leave the link here for those of you have not seen it. But the most common follow-up question that I've received from viewers has been, wouldn't this justify in the Chinese mind a diversionary war or distraction war to increase public support? I can't rule it out, but I don't think that. I don't think that's going to go down for three reasons. Number one, this is not a democracy. This is an autocracy where the CCP's control of the public space is huge and their ability to shape public opinion is massive. And in that sort of environment, you don't get the same relative effects,
Starting point is 00:00:46 and you also don't have the same instability from economic problems that you might have in a more pluralistic society. So I don't want to say no, but the government's ability to shape public opinion and to stir up nationals is pretty robust. If anything, the government sometimes has a bit of a problem containing the nationalism, not getting it going. So from a legitimacy point of view, I don't think it's really necessary. Second, anyone in China who can read a map and do math knows that if they launch a war for Taiwan, it will not end well, not in the war itself, but what happens to the next day. China is dependent upon the international community for roughly three quarters of their energy sources, and most of that comes from a continent away. On top of that,
Starting point is 00:01:36 China is, in terms of absolute volumes, the most dependent on imports and exports of any country in the world, and they import the vast, vast majority of the materials that allow them to grow their own food. So if you have even a moderate effort by a small number of countries to go after Chinese commerce in the aftermath or because of a war, this country will be facing a, industrial collapse in just a matter of months and a famine that'll kill half the population in a couple of years. And I have no doubt that at least several years ago that the Chinese leadership understood that. And so they primarily used Taiwan as a rhetorical issue. And most of the threats that we're seeing now are not necessarily coming from the decision makers. Third, let's assume
Starting point is 00:02:20 that the Chinese can capture Taiwan in a matter of weeks with minimal damage. That doesn't really give them anything. I mean, yes, it technically is a break in the first island chain. But the Chinese are still dependent upon the international system to get everything that they need, and they're dependent on the U.S. Navy to patrol the global oceans so that their commercial cargo can come and go. In fact, this would actually put their potential sea lanes by Taiwan in greater risk from the Japanese who have a better, longer-range navy than anything that the Chinese have. And then there's talk of the semiconductor industry that the Chinese would be able to but the Chinese can't operate their own semiconductor industry. It's not just run with,
Starting point is 00:02:59 foreign equipment and software it's run by foreign personnel and the Taiwanese facilities are the most advanced in the world and honestly the chinese wouldn't know what to do with it i don't mean that as a slam to the chinese i don't think any country that took them over would be able to operate them in anything less than a decade time frame for the chinese would take a lot longer than that so it really doesn't check any boxes now saying that it wouldn't work saying that a diversionary war would be unwise and would achieve nothing for the chinese is not the same as me saying i don't think it would happen but the rationale would be very, very different. So two things. Number one, it could be a miscalculation. Not in the traditional sense that, you know, we don't think anyone will do anything, but miscalculation
Starting point is 00:03:38 by G. Remember that G has formed such a tight cult of personality that no one's bringing him information. So he's literally making decisions in a box without any idea of the information that flows in or the reality of the world around him. In that sort of decision-making structure, sure he could pull the trigger, but it wouldn't be because of any of the reasons that you would normally expect. So whether it's economic, strategic, political, or whatever, whatever we would say, you know,
Starting point is 00:04:06 this might force a country to pull the trigger. None of that applies to you, because it's all in his head. And it's not something that we can really guess at because we don't know what's shaping his decision-making because we know he's not being fed the information he needs to run the country. The second reason is, quite darker, if you're like me, and you believe that we're looking at the end of the Chinese
Starting point is 00:04:29 system over the next decade for demographic reasons alone, forget politics, forget energy, forget vulnerability, forget the debt, forget trade wars, forget everything else, then there's something to be said for pulling the trigger, because if the Chinese system is facing that same industrial collapse and that same population collapse for other reasons, and there's nothing that the Chinese government can do to stop that, maybe by a little, little bit of time and that's it. Then pulling the trigger, choosing the time and the place of a war, even if you think you're going to lose, even if you know it's going to result in the death of half your countrymen, if it allows you to command the narrative of the future, well, that means that the
Starting point is 00:05:13 CCP for the low, low price of half the country's population might be able to rule into the next era of Chinese history. And if you're completely amoral about it, you've got to admit that might be a compelling reason to launch a war that you know what will destroy you. For dark, not saying that's happening, but we can't rule that at this point.

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