The Peter Zeihan Podcast Series - Crumbling Infrastructure in the Russian Taiga || Peter Zeihan

Episode Date: April 25, 2023

The terrain in northern Russia complicates building infrastructure enough. But in the aftermath of the Ukraine War (and without the West's involvement), I wouldn't expect this critical infrastructure ...in Russia to come back online in the next decade. Full Newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/zeihan/crumbling-infrastructure-in-the-russian-taiga

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, everybody, Peter Zion here coming to you from the rock burn in New Zealand, and I just saw some vegetation that reminded me of something of significant import. So behind me, you just have a normal tree stump, but it is covered in several inches of moss. You can see how my, whoa, hiking pole just sinks into it. Terrain like this doesn't exist in many parts of the world. You need just the right altitude and to the right humidity in order for the stuff to grow in the first place. You've got it here in New Zealand, in the temperate rainforest, you've got it on Victoria Island, or sorry, Vancouver Island in northwest Canada. It exists in Manitoba, what they call the Muskeg that is approaching the Arctic Ocean.
Starting point is 00:00:46 And then it is also the dominant vegetation and some of the tag guy in northern Russia. Finishing this video up from the Root Burn Flat. So where were we? Oh yeah, unstable ground. So it doesn't really matter what the reason for a spongy ground, whether it's moss or permafrost happens to be. It's very difficult to build artificial infrastructure. But if you want to do anything with the land, that's what you've got to do. In the case of the Russian space, you've got that mushy, marshy top over what is ultimately permafrost somewhere between 5 and 30 feet under the surface.
Starting point is 00:01:21 And until you get down to the permafrost, the frozen layer, everything is just goo. And so any infrastructure that you were to build in the summer would just sink into the swamp. So what they have to do is they wait for everything to freeze solid in the depths of the Siberian winter. And then they go and excavate it and then bring in rock and sand and gravel and aggregate and tar and everything else to build giant berms that go from the permafrost all the way up until you get these dikes that run over the landscape. Environmentally devastating, of course, but that's never been something the Russians have really cared about. And then you can run roads and pipes and as such over those berms. So one of the things that people have discussed, you know, in a post-Ukraine war scenario, will we be going back into Russia in order to tap those resources again?
Starting point is 00:02:07 And, you know, even in the best case scenario where the government and the politics line up, you really should still count all the Russian stuff out for several decades because that's how long it took to bring this stuff online. Western techs have been essential to maintaining output in the Russian oil and natural gas fees. and their petrochemical center in their general industry since 1992 because most of this raw infrastructure was built in the 1960s and it's barely holding on by its fingernails now and with the Western techs the Western skill sets the Western Capitol gone we're seeing industrial accidents that are well does just say Soviet in scale so a lot of this stuff is going to have to be rebuilt and then you're going to have to have a positive security environment that goes all the way from the point of production through hundreds if not thousands of miles of permafrost to get to populated Russia and then finally to get out to the wider world. And that is not something you're going to fix in three months or six months or nine months or 90 months.
Starting point is 00:03:03 That's a decade plus project minimum. And that's a decade plus in which relations with Moscow have to be positive. So we should all kind of pencil in that materials coming out of the former Soviet space, specifically the Russian space, just aren't going to be there for the foreseeable future. Until next time

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