The Peter Zeihan Podcast Series - India Assassinated a Sikh Emigrant on Canadian Soil || Peter Zeihan

Episode Date: October 17, 2023

While giving a parliamentary testimony, Canada's Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau, accused the Indian Government of assassinating a Sikh emigrant living in Canada who supported an Indian separatist group. Full Newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/zeihan/india-assassinated-a-sikh-emigrant-on-canadian-soil

Hey everybody, Peter Zion here coming to you from Colorado. Today we're going to talk about something that you guys have been writing in for weeks about. What is up with the Indians and the Canadians yelling at one another over this assassination plot? For those of you who are unaware, the Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau accused, actually kind of mentioned it in passing in a parliamentary testimony, that the Indian government had assassinated a Sikh emigre on Canadian. soil. The guy had Canadian citizenship. He had renounced his Indian citizenship, but the Indians have never liked this guy because he supports one of the separatist groups in India. It wasn't a group

that was hot. I mean, this issue has basically been resolved in India's favor, but he didn't stop talking about it while he was abroad. And as the accusation goes, the Indians wanted him dead and did it. This has a number of implications. It took me so long just to kind of get to the bottom of it because it involves intel that hasn't been made public for the most part. But let's say five things. Number one, looks like it was true. The intelligence didn't come from Canada. It came from the United States and the Five Eyes system. Five Eyes is a group of five Anglo countries, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, and the United States that share intelligence on almost everything. Anyway, the intelligence originated from the United

States, because this is going to sound weird, or maybe not, the United States has much better intelligence capabilities in Canada than the Canadian government does. So, yeah, and then it was verified by the British government, and the Brits have much better information gathering in India than the Canadians do. So all of the Five Eyes has basically kind of quietly said, Canada's right on this one. That makes things a little bit complicated, because two, we have never seen the Indian government assassinate anyone outside of arms reach of their own borders. This is a fundamentally new capacity for them. Now, assassinations are a little bit coming into vogue. The Russians have obviously picked up the pace for that considerably even before

the Ukraine war, with radiation and poisoning and polonium being their preferred methods, although they're not afraid of a gunshot to the head. And if you ever see somebody jumping out of a hospital window that was probably an assassination. This is kind of Russian culture. The Americans, of course, are fans of it too, as long as it's done by a drone. We really frat upon it when it's done in person for some reason, probably left over from the Cold War issues. And then, of course, the Brits are good at it.

Anyway, seeing this with India is significant because the Indian diaspora is arguably the largest on the planet. And if the Indian government starts patrolling it using extra territorial and extra legal means, that is going to rub a lot of people wrong in a lot of places, and eventually it'll probably end up offing someone that actually matters to a government, and not just because it's a citizen. So this is not yet a really big deal, but it has the potential to become a very big deal in the not-to-distant future.

Number three, Canada is among the largest destinations for Indian students traveling abroad, and the Indian diaspora in Canada has become its, fastest growing ethnic group. Now, obviously the people who leave a country are not the zealate patriots, so expect to see a lot more agitation within Canada as a result of this, as opposed to quieting down. If the Indian goal was to quell discussion of these topics, they probably just achieved the opposite because Canada, for its fault, is a free country with a more or less free press, even if it is a little bit slanted in my opinion. And it's very easy for anyone to say anything about anyone anywhere. And because of freedom of information and the

ability to send electrons around the world in a second, that will generate actually a lot more publicity in India as well. So this probably wasn't the smartest play by New Delhi if their goal was to keep this very, very quiet. Okay, more significantly, number four, relations with India. You know, by the five eyes putting their stamp of approval on the Canadian statement, that obviously raises the question about what relations between the Brits, the Australians, and the Americans are going to be with the Indians. The Americans and the Australians are in the quad grouping with India, which is a kind of a security talk shop. And the Brits obviously have ongoing relations, economic and otherwise, with everyone who's in the Commonwealth and their form of colonies. So if you've got a major power,

India starting to do things that are incredibly unsavory from the point of view of democratic norms, that is absolutely going to impact relations. The question is how much? The issue for the Americans and the Australians, of course, is China, China, China, China, China, China. And honestly, I don't think in this relationship, we're going to see too much of a change, which brings us to the fifth issue, which is the nature of great power politics. When you have identified a country that you see as a large threat. A lot of the niceties that dominate the normal diplomatic and economic discourse fall by the wayside in favor of hard security concerns. And that means you are willing to partner with different sorts of countries and personalities that you normally

wouldn't even consider. So, for example, when Hitler was on the scene, we were best buds with Stalin sent him billions, in today's terms, tens of billions of dollars of military aid in order to fight off the Nazis. Then when Hitler fell, we got into bed with Mao, who was the greatest mass murderer in history, in order to counter Stalin. So the idea that we would partner with a mostly democratic, but a little bit unsavory India in order to counter what has become the most totalitarian government in the world, that's an easy decision to make. But it does mean that the nature of the American and to a lesser degree British and Australian relationship with the Indians is going to change. We never considered Stalin or Mao or French.

They were allies against a very specific threat. And when that threat was neutralized, the relationship changed again. Now, there are a lot of decisions the Indians are going to have to make in the next several years as actions against the Chinese heat up. And the question will be whether or not they want a more productive relationship with these Western nations. There's a lot of water under that bridge. The answer may very well be no. But that means India will be doing Indian things with Indian policy for Indian interests. And to be perfectly honest, looking back on the last 70 years, that's not much of a change. India unofficially sided with the Soviets and the Cold War, but they were very big on non-alignment and for the most part carried it out. What we're seeing today is just kind of the slightly greater power equivalent of that same sort of political ideology. Now, sitting here in the United States, it's easy for me to wag my finger and say that this is not the best thing for India or Indians.

But I don't get a vote in this. This is a decision to be made in New Delhi specifically. And to be perfectly blunt, in a world where lots and lots of countries are aligned against the Chinese, and in my opinion, the Chinese are not all in for this world, India is going to do very well, regardless of what the relationship. what the West happens to look like. This is their decision. Doesn't mean we have to like it.