The Peter Zeihan Podcast Series - India's Counter-Piracy Operation: A Geopolitical Wormhole || Peter Zeihan

Episode Date: January 25, 2024

Today we're talking about the Indians and pirates - sorry sports fans, not those ones. India launched a successful counter-piracy operation off the coast of Somalia, which has helped reaffirm its glob...al strategic importance, but raised some eyebrows in the process. Full Newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/zeihan/indias-counter-piracy-operation-a-geopolitical-wormhole

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey everybody, Peter Zion here coming to you from the winter wonderland that is Colorado after a snowstorm. It is the 8th of January and the news today is that the Indian Navy has successfully engaged in a counter-pirate operation and freed a vessel with a majority Indian crew from pirates off the coast of Somalia. This is nearly at the outer reach of what the Indians can reach, which are the naval forces. And counter-piracy operations are always lots of no-funds. for everyone. And so this is a pretty important tactical victory, and I think it underlines the role that I see India playing in the region in the future. Now, India is not like any other country in the world. It's certainly not like the United States. They have a very nationalist view of
Starting point is 00:00:46 trade, and they don't like to integrate with anyone. And they add an ideological opposition to globalization because it was American-led, and during the Cold War, the Indians tended to be more pro-Soviet. To the point that even when the Soviet Union wasn't around anymore, the Indians tended to be fairly pro-Soviet. But we've seen this weakening in that position over the course of the Ukraine war, not because they're having a change of heart, but because they're realizing that all of the billions of dollars that they spent on developing joint weapons systems with the Russians was basically stolen and they're never going to get any of it. So the Indians from a national security point of view are increasingly going their own way. That may include some deals.
Starting point is 00:01:26 here and there with the United States, but those will be tactical, not strategic. And it's going to be a very a la carte experience as opposed to, say, the American relationship with Japan or with Australia or even with Saudi Arabia. India is going to do its own things for its own ways. Also, India doesn't really like anyone, and there aren't a lot of countries out there that like India. So they won't be partnering with anyone else in economic matters for manufacturing. They're going to have to do more or less the same thing that the U.S. is going to have to do as the Chinese system breaks down, and that means doubling the size of their industrial plant, but they're not going to have a joint manufacturing system with Bangladesh or with Pakistan or Sri Lanka or with Iran or with
Starting point is 00:02:07 Myanmar, and those are all the countries that they border. So India's industrial plant is going to expand massively, but it's all going to be in India. That will affect quality issues, of course, but India is a market with 1.5 billion people. I think they're going to deal with that just fine. What that does mean, however, is their threshold for military action is going to be very, very low compared to a lot of other countries because they're not integrated with anyone. They're also the first major stop for oil going out of the Persian Gulf to East Asia, which is where it almost all goes. And now the Indians have conclusively demonstrated that they're capable of doing anti-pirate operations. Well, not to put too fine a point on it, but if you're good at
Starting point is 00:02:49 anti-pirate operations, you're also by default very good at pirate operations. So now that the Indians are not beholden to anyone, and now that we are seeing a breakdown in the Chinese system, we're going to see the Indians taking not de facto control, but de facto management of any trade that happens to come through the Indian Ocean Basin, and that includes the world's largest oil transport route. So the issue for everyone else in the area is whether or not you can find a way of dealing with the Indians. And to be perfectly blunt, the best way to do that is cold hard cash, because the Indians are otherwise more or less going to be self-sufficient in the world that we're going to.
Starting point is 00:03:34 And no one can reach them. They're literally a continent away from all the other potential players. And as for the United States, if we have an India that is a little bit, that's the best word, persnickety in its own region, that's fine. because there aren't a lot of U.S. interests that pass through that region in a post-China scenario. So this is just where we're headed. And the Indians, very clearly, are a step ahead of everyone else.

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