The Peter Zeihan Podcast Series - Peter Zeihan || Cartels Part 1: Americans Caught in the Crossfire

Episode Date: March 8, 2023

On March 7th, two of the four US citizens kidnapped shortly after crossing the border into Mexico were found dead. This raises several questions, but perhaps the most significant is how this will change the United States' policy on Mexican cartels.Full Newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/zeihan/cartels-part-1-americans-caught-in-the-crossfire

Hey everybody, Peter Zine here, coming to you from Las Vegas. Today is the 7th of March. And if you've been following the news, you knew that there were a few Americans who went down to Mexico to get some tummy tuck surgery. And shortly after they crossed the border, they were assaulted, kidnapped, and some of them have now turned up dead. And so the discussion in Washington is whether or not we should designate cartels in Mexico as terrorist groups and start doing cross-border strikes. I'm not saying I've got a solution to this problem because I do not. Well, actually, I do. We'll get to that.

But military strikes on Mexico are not, not, not the solution. It's not that the cartels are not deserving. I mean, these are people who have basically been preying on civilians now for decades, shoving drugs into our system, first cocaine, now fentanyl. And they're into any number of criminal enterprises, and they're trying to launder their money through other licit sectors in Mexico in the United States, which has made the money go deep and go far. However, we have seen exactly this sort of situation.

In recent American history, we know exactly where it leads. So during the Afghan war, we discovered that there were militants operate in the northwest Pakistan in a place called Northwest Frontier Province that were launching assaults against American forces and Afghan forces backed by the United States north of the border in Afghanistan and then they would retreat back south of the border. And so we ended up carrying out a number of military operations on both. both sides of the border to chase them down. The problem we rapidly discovered is that Pakistan is a weak state, and they do not control

northwest frontier province. And by launching strikes south of the border, we were inflaming local passions of Pakistanis, even if they were not in support of these militant groups. And we ended up weaking the Pakistani state, which made it even easier for these groups to operate. So in this case, strikes across the border just poured fuel on the flyer. If we were to do this in Mexico, two problems. Mexico is a weaker state than Pakistan, and so anything that inhibits its ability to function would I probably make the situation even worse. And second, the most pro-American portions of Mexico

are the northern tier of states where it would be likely to launch these strikes. So we'd be taking our regional allies, who are not just political allies, but economic partners. Remember that the United States and Mexico are now each other's largest trading partners, and especially if we decide we want to move away from the Chinese system, we need help with mid-skilled mid-range manufacturing, and that is a sector in which Mexico absolutely excels, as arguably the world leader, and launching military assaults on what is the location of our most important, most tightly integrated supply chain networks would be a disaster for aerospace and automotive and manufacturing in general. So I really would encourage you to think otherwise. This is a thorny price. This is a thorny

problem. The solution is not to not get tummy tucks in Mexico, although I would argue that maybe common sense would tell you that you don't need to do that anyway. The solution is to stop using so much goddamn cocaine, because as long as we are providing the financial existence of the system, it's going to persist. Now, this is far too big of a topic for me to do in a single video. So I'm going to be breaking this under a few different topics. We're going to talk about some of the individual cartels and the economics of the drug war. And how it has evolved in recent years. So think of this as a starter, and in the days to come,

we're going to be turning this into a full-on series. So stay tuned. See you soon.