The Peter Zeihan Podcast Series - Russia Backs Away From Nuclear Test Ban Treaty || Peter Zeihan

Episode Date: November 6, 2023

If you were hoping to start your week off with some cheery news - it might be best to skip this video. Russia has stepped away from the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty, so we have plenty to discuss today.Full Newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/zeihan/russia-backs-away-from-nuclear-test-ban-treaty

Everybody, Peter Zayn here coming to you from the California coast, and it is the second of November. And the big news today is the Russians have withdrawn from something called the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty, which aims to ban all tests and all forms of all sorts, all types of nuclear weapons. It's a little bit different from most of the arms control agreements that exist in the world. Most of the effective ones are bilateral treaties between the United States and the Soviets slash Russians that have dealt with nuclear ceilings and the numbers of weapons and their stationings and their dispositions and sometimes even down to conventional weapons. And most of this proliferation, excuse me, most of this non-proliferation regime is in danger right now because the Russians

have stopped enforcing or have simply pulled out of treaty after treaty, prompting the Americans to follow suit. The CTBT never entered into force, however, because it was a multilateral effort. unlike all of the Cold War treaties where Moscow and Washington sat down across a table from another to hash out the details, sometimes with London or Beijing or Paris in tow. The CTBT was always a multilateral effort that involved over 100 countries. And so when it was first adopted by the UN General Assembly back in the 90s, the hope was that we had entered into a fundamentally new era where everyone would agree that nuclear war is perhaps not something we should aim for.

Because it came from the UNGA, because it wasn't negotiated primarily by the nuclear powers, the nuclear powers for the most part have not abided by it. It's not that there's been a huge amount of testing, but all the nuclear powers have decided to, what's the most polite way to say this, pretend the treaty doesn't exist. So countries like the United States and China have signed it, same with Indian Pakistan, but they've never ratified it. The Brits and the French have signed and ratified, but with a couple of exemptions in there. And now the Russians have basically joined the Americans and the Chinese and the Indians and

the Israelis and everything and basically saying that we're not going to buy this by this at all. Now it doesn't mean that a return to nuclear testing is imminent. In fact, there's an open question of whether or not the Russians can even do a quality nuclear test anymore longer. They've had a number of instances in the last three years where they've tested some of their ballistic missiles and they've discovered that a lot of them just don't work anymore. And remember that if you're going to test something that the world can see, you're going to see, you're going to baby that piece of hardware because you don't want to look like a fool if it doesn't work. And the Russians on multiple occasions have looked like fools when it doesn't work.

So the real risk here isn't so much that the Russians are going to test. The risk is whether or not their command and control over the nuclear arsenal is actually intact because we have seen that the defense minister, Shogu, has basically, even in the height of the war in Ukraine, continued to steal from the military hand over a fist. And you hope you're going to, you're hope that he's not stealing particularly interesting components from say the nuclear program, but the guy really has no ethics and no sense

of patriotism, so you really can't rule that out. The nightmare scenario for me remains of what happens if Putin hits the big candy like red button, and nothing happens. And we now have seen on multiple occasions that American intelligence has penetrated so far into Moscow that we're basically knowing

what Putin has for lunch before he even wakes up in the morning. and in that sort of a minor, what do you do when somebody tries to kill half a billion people but fails?