The Peter Zeihan Podcast Series - Russia Moves Nukes to Belarus || Peter Zeihan

Episode Date: April 10, 2023

Anytime Russia and nukes are mentioned in the same sentence...the world pays attention. But does moving some Russian nukes to Belarus inherently change Putin's military posture?Full Newsletter: https:...//mailchi.mp/zeihan/russia-moves-nukes-to-belarus

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey everybody, Peter Zion here coming to you from the shores of Lake Hawia. It's the famed Dingleburn arm behind me. This is my favorite lake in New Zealand for the obvious reasons. And today we're talking about Russia and nukes. So for those of you who have not been under Iraq, the Russians have been threatened and nuclear this and that and everything since the Ukraine war started. But if you look back and look at the statements, you'll know that sometime in mid-March of last year, Putin stopped making threats.
Starting point is 00:00:27 And it was only in the last couple of weeks that the Russians have said they're moving nukes to permanent station in Belarus, which is the first expansion of the Russian military footprint in terms of nuclear arms since the end of the Cold War. A lot of people are worried about that. But I think it's best to look back before we look forward. So if you remember back to February and early March, Putin was making nuclear threats against anyone who was willing to support the Ukrainians in any way. And then he just stopped. And the way it was explained to me the last time I was in Washington when something like this, that the ambassador was dispatched to talk to Putin and to lay out a little bit of logic. And the idea was that if you
Starting point is 00:01:05 look back to February and March, especially in January, when the Russians would have a super secret meeting with their national security council to lock room, and then within hours, the transcript of those conversations would be published in Western media. The way the ambassador explained it to Putin was that the Americans had been listening to everything, every phone call, every conversation, reading every email, and in doing so, had a full picture of everything that Putin was personally considering and within his inner circle. And the idea was that, you know, a minor detail of this sort of espionage was that the United States knew at any given time physically where Putin was. So if he thought he could fling a nuke into the Western Hemisphere, the first couple wouldn't
Starting point is 00:01:48 just come back and come right down his throat, he was kind of out of his mind. So he stopped making the threats and he left it to his henchmen to do it. This new development is kind of in the same vein. Putting nukes in a place doesn't in of itself change your military posture. And we know from some of the nuclear threats that the Russians made back in last March and April and May is that they didn't actually change their readiness. They were just shouting. This is kind of like that. Because if you put a nuke in another country, you need a hardened facility. You need a command and control system. You We need an IT system that is absolutely hack-proof, and putting that in Belarus, Belarus barely has electricity on a good day.
Starting point is 00:02:30 It's a horrible place for a nuclear base. So if the Russians did transfer nukes there, they'd basically be seating in crates surrounded by soldiers unable to be launched. So at this point, and this specific issue, the nuclear threat coming out of Russia has not actually increased. The potential risk we have here is proliferation, because we know. that the Russians don't have the best security, and we know that the military has become really corrupt, especially when it comes to hardware and funding. So taking secure nuclear
Starting point is 00:03:03 materials and transferring them to a country that's a kleptocracy like Belarus, actually raises the chance that these things might get sold on the open market. It's not that that's a non-risk, but it's a very, very different risk from the idea of the Russians actually physically expanding their nuclear deployment footprint. But in terms of operational readiness, there's really no change because the Russians already have a nuclear footprint in their little enclave of Kaliningrad on the Baltic Sea, which is west of Belarus. So nothing has really changed here. The Russians are just looking for a little way to beat their chests and kind of feed the domestic nationalism machine that is keeping the government in power. This is about
Starting point is 00:03:42 internal Russian politics, not international security issues, at least for now. All right, that's it for me. Talk to you guys later.

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