The Peter Zeihan Podcast Series - South Africa's Immigration Problem || Peter Zeihan

Episode Date: August 3, 2026

While the U.S. and South Africa similarly attract migrants from poorer neighboring countries because they are the strongest economies on their respective continents, that's where the similarities stop. Join the Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/PeterZeihan Full Newsletter: https://bit.ly/3TIHlx7

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Half Dome, and El Capitan. and over this way we have Red Peak and the high range. Anyway, today we're taking a question from the Patreon page about South Africa. It seems like they're having a little bit of an illegal immigrant snafu that is reminiscent of politics in the United States. Let's talk about where it's similar and where it's not. Let's start with where it is similar. There are not a lot of South Africans that want to do certain.

jobs and it is the bright spot economically on its continent and there are a whole lot of countries in sub-Saharan Africa that are not doing very well and haven't been doing very well for more than 50 years. So it's natural that there is a pull, pulling especially unskilled labor to south into South Africa and all of the politics and the populism, whether conservative or liberal, trade unions versus people who don't want outsiders in their neighborhoods, all of that stands, to a degree it's all very similar. But where it's not, we are now nearly, who 30 years, 1992? Yeah, we're pushing 35 years since apartheid ended. When it did, the white leaders of South Africa had some sit-down serious conversations with the black

leaders of South Africa and decided how post-apartheid South Africa was going to work. In the past all the blacks and the colors, as the term that they use, lived in something called townships, which were basically fenced off. They had a centralized water system, but no real sanitation system, so they're kind of ringed by porta-potties. And then they're barbed wired off from the white communities that basically live in something that looks a lot like an American suburban environment. So when you have three-quarters, 80% of the population that basically lives in isolation, What happens when you suddenly give them the right to, for example, vote? They're going to want different things than whatever they've had.

And all of the wealth in South Africa was controlled by the whites. So what happens there? We've had political evolution since where populist groups among the blacks have risen, a group called the Economic Freedom Fires, basically wants to nationalize almost everything. Because from their point of view, the whites, a very small minority, hold all the money. And if we give to the state and then redistribute it, that would be more fair. Anyway, regardless of what you think about that, the decision that was made back in the early 90s was very simple. The whites could keep everything that they had, and in exchange,

the blacks would have free housing and electricity and water forever. What that has economically done is locked most of the black population into the townships. There is more education. There are more opportunities. There are possibilities for the blacks to leave the townships. There are more. and earn a normal living and then go on and move up the economic ladder. But when your basics are almost free, it is a huge disincentive and people stay where they are. So as a result, based on whose numbers you're using, South Africa today has an unemployment rate somewhere between 35 and 55% and it's been like that since the 90s. They also have some of the highest crime rates in the world because people will steal to buy the basic necessities they need and then go back to their

free housing, which is honestly not a whole lot more than a shack. Introduce illegal migration into this environment. There are a lot of jobs in South Africa that really do need to be done. The whites are too skilled for most of them, and a lot of the blacks are, I don't want to use the word complacent, that's not quite right, but they feel stuck with where they are right now. So bringing in illegal migrants to do the work doesn't bother either of those groups. Who it bothers are the blacks who are trying to leave the township and make a career of themselves and get a house that has internal plumbing and move up the ladder because those are the people who are being undermined by the illegal migrants.

Now, how South Africa deals with this? We've basically had a series of majority governments by one of the most corrupt groups in modern history, the African National Congress, and more recently in coalition with the White Party, which is basically based out of Cape Town, which is a more white-heavy city, as opposed to Johannesburg, which is more black-heavy. None of this is a clean mix. None of it perfectly aligns to anyone else's political milieu because it is such a unique situation from so many different points of view. Anyway, it is a real issue, but before you layer that on, does anyone else's political agenda. Just keep in mind it is very, very, very specific to South Africa. There is no other

country on the planet has anything like this or has in the modern era. Okay. That was a lot to say at high elevation. That's it for me today. Bye. Jackpot City is the online casino that brings excitement to you. And this summer, they're bringing you to the excitement with a free spin. Till the end of summer, order a co-op taxi. If the Jackpot City taxi picks you up, Your ride is free. Plus, by riding in this free taxi, you could win 3,000, 5,000, 12,000, or a mega-30,000 free in cash.

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