The Peter Zeihan Podcast Series - Tensions Rise in the Middle East, But Don't Expect War || Peter Zeihan

Episode Date: August 13, 2024

There's no shortage of news coming out of the Middle East, but today we're going to look at the rising tensions between Israel and Iran and Iranian proxy Hezbollah. Full Newsletter: https://mailchi....mp/zeihan/tensions-rise-in-the-middle-east-but-dont-expect-war

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Everybody, Peter Zion here coming to you from Colorado. Today, to popular reclaim, we are going to talk a little bit about what's going on in the Middle East. Of late, there's been a lot of tit for attacks across the region with the Iranians broadly on one side and the Israelis on the other. Hezbollah somewhere in the middle. And the question really comes down to whether or not we're going to be seeing a broader war here. Punchline, probably not. Israel has its hands full in Gaza. It really doesn't want a wider conflict.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Hezbollah, which is the militant group that, from certain points of view, de facto runs Lebanon, definitely does not want its position overthrown because it's no longer a pure terror group. It actually is more or less the government, and that means it has exposures that are a lot easier to be exploited in a direct war, as opposed to a terror group, which can just go to ground. They're much more vulnerable because they're much more powerful. And then third in Iran, they're trying to go through a political transition. They've got a new president. and the supreme leader who makes all the real decisions is older than Biden,
Starting point is 00:01:01 and we know that he doesn't have much time left either, so they don't want the disruption that a major war would cause as well. The problem, of course, is that the Middle East, to put it in Western terms, is basically like a bar room argument and that everybody wants to have the last word. So in the last few days, the Israelis have assassinated Ismail Hania who is a Hamas political leader who was in Tehran and they assassinated him in Tehran.
Starting point is 00:01:30 So the Iranians are furious, obviously, and feel that any idea that you can provide security for your own allies in the region, but not, you can't even do it at home. It makes them look incredibly weak, so they feel they need to strike back, so they probably will. But remember what preceded this was Iran leaning on Hezbollah to fire a bunch of rockets into Israel. And so before that, the Israelis killed a Hezbollah commander in Beirut. And it's just, it's been back and forth and back and forth and back and forth. Everyone wants the last word. Nobody wants a war, but everybody wants the last word.
Starting point is 00:02:03 It's not the most perfect picture for strategic stability. But I have to remind you that this is what the Middle East looks like on a good day. And of late, the Middle East has had a lot of good days. As long as the major players, Hezbollah, Israel, and Iran in the situation, don't feel that they would benefit from a wider conflict, all we get are these sort of high-profile blammy back and force as everyone is seeking to close the argument. It'll never close.
Starting point is 00:02:40 But it also means the violence is unlikely to rise to a certain level above what is basically, for the rest of the world, a degree of background noise. Okay, so the other thing to keep in mind on this is now there is a discussion going on internally in Iran. As I mentioned before, a new president, Supreme Leader is failing. One of the things that we have seen since the Iraq War back in 2003
Starting point is 00:03:05 is that Iran has more and more and more given a free range of the IRGC, which is basically their paramilitary arm, controls large chunks of the economy at home, and is basically in charge of shooting people abroad. And as they've been given a longer and longer reach, they've basically indulged in every little fantasy they possibly could when it comes to revenge and picked fights with everyone. Well, that's coming home to Roost now.
Starting point is 00:03:30 That's one of the reasons why the Israelis have dropped the hammer on Iranian interests here and there of late. Well, there's a discussion now going on in Iran about whether or not they've gone too far, whether they're causing more problems than benefits, whether they've become too important of a power player on their own, whether they're breaking away from the clerical establishment and starting to set policy on it. These are all reasonable conversations. And in a normal country, these conversations would be front and center.
Starting point is 00:04:01 In a place like Iran where democracy is, how should we say this, limited. It's interesting that it's finally boiled up and it took the humiliation of the Hania assassination on their home turf to kind of underline it to Iran about how bad the IRGC has gotten. Now, you shouldn't expect a singular deceit. decision here to suddenly change the math. The person who matters in Iranian politics is the supreme leader. And if he feels that the IRGC has gone too far, needs to be reined in, he will have to do something about that. But like I said, he is failing. So we are probably going to see a cosmetic continuation of the tit for tats with Iran. It's their turn. But back at home, we're probably going to see a significant amount of instability and shifting
Starting point is 00:04:51 as the various players, and most notably the Supreme Leader, actually have to make some really hard decisions about the future of the country. And for the Supreme Leader, this is also about legacy, and he probably doesn't want his last legacy to be, like, taking a hammer to the IRGC. Anyway, exciting times, but probably not a war.

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