The Peter Zeihan Podcast Series - The Baltics Ditch Russia for European Integration || Peter Zeihan

Episode Date: August 20, 2024

*This video was recorded during my backpacking trip through Yosemite in the end of July. The Baltic states - Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania - are taking one step closer to the Europeans with their upco...ming electrical system swap. This switch from Russian to European electrical standards marks a significant shift for these nations. Full Newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/zeihan/the-baltics-ditch-russia-for-european-integration

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, everybody, Peter Zine here coming to you from the Hoover Wilderness. This is the northwest shoulder of slide mountain. I'm in the part where Yosemite merges into the Hoover, and there's so many things to look at, they haven't even bothered naming most of them. Anyway, taking an entry from the Ask Peter Forum today, specifically asking for comment about the effort in the Baltic Republics, that's Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.
Starting point is 00:00:27 other three Central European states on the Baltic Sea, who are switching their electrical system over from Russian standard to European standard. This has been a long time coming. They're actually already using European generation assets, but they do use a different frequency. If you remember back to the battle days of the Cold War, everyone was convinced for a while, pre-1985, roughly, that they needed to control their own manufacturing system. And so we all had our own electrical network. The Soviets had theirs, the Americans had theirs, the Brits had theirs, mainland Europe had theirs, blah, blah, blah, blah. Wow, it was really annoying. Anyway, now that the Baltic states are no longer part of the Cold War, no longer part of the Soviet Union, they are
Starting point is 00:01:09 finally switching over. And while the connection's already in place to draw power from the European space, this will be changing the frequency as well. So basically everything's going to go down one day next year, I think in March, and then it's going to come back up and they'll feel a little bit more European. This is one of the many problems that the Baltz and really all of the Central Europeans have had in adapting from Soviet life to European life. Most of these countries had their first taste of industrialization under Soviet rule in some way. And don't make that think that they're laggards because, you know, Sweden had their first
Starting point is 00:01:47 taste of real industrialization in the 1940s and 50s as well. This is just what had happened. for many, many, many people. And so their systems were designed to work in a different world. And moving over bit by bit can be done, but it takes time and it takes resources. In the case of the Baltz, they are definitely the laggards in this. Poland, the Czech Republic, Hungary, and Slovakia went over very, very early because they have a lot more physical connections to Europe. So, for example, you can basically walk from any part of journey to any part of Poland without a problem.
Starting point is 00:02:20 The balts are hanging off the northern end of Poland, and there's a little problem in this little enclave called Kaliningrad, which inhibits direct connections between the greater EU and the Baltz. Basically, you've got this little pocket of Russian territory that's on the Baltic Sea. Kind of reminds me of, I don't know, Washington, D.C. without the governance, you get all the dirt, all the traffic, all the corruption, and all the bad weather, but none of the power. That's kind of what it feels like to me. Anyway, rooting around that has always been difficult because there's a security issue. There's something called the, let's see, I'm going to butcher the same. Sulawaki, Sulawaki, Sulawaki, Sulaquay, Sulaqi, Sulaqi, Gap, which is the thin layer of territory that connects a sliver of Poland to a sliver of Lithuania. They're building out infrastructure to make that a more viable connection, but it takes time.
Starting point is 00:03:09 And remember that the Baltz are, they're called the tiny Baltic Republics for a reason. These are not large states, and when they got into the European Union and they got into the Schengen zone and they got into the free movement treaty, a lot of people who were in their 30s or younger left. So the total population for all three Baltic states combined is only about 8 million. I mean, geography's a bitch. If you've got this kind of weak connection and then that kind of population density, there's only so fast that you can go without a lot of outside help. Now, the European Union with development funds has been paying for some of this, but ultimately, the bolts have to dig deep. There's also been talk about the Swedes and the Finns doing more, like maybe having a bridge or a tunnel from Finland to Estonia, but you should put that out of your mind right now because Finland only has like five, six million people, so it would never be viable.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Anyway, this is one of the many, many reasons why back in the day, in the 2000s, I was like, you're going to expand NATO great. Poland, obviously, Hungary, obviously, Romania, obviously. but the Balts? Should we really be extending a defense guarantee to countries that can't be defended? But that was 20 years ago. And in that time, the Baltz and the Europeans have come a long way in building connections among them. And more importantly, in the Ukraine where we've seen very, very, very clearly that the Russian army is not all that. And they're burning through their men and their equipment in a rate that they just can't replace. So while it's still a meaningful conversation about defense, fence about the balks because they are very exposed and at the very end of a very long chain of
Starting point is 00:04:48 logistics. It's no longer silly to have that conversation. So I see this electrical switchover as another small step on a multi-decade process to make the bolts part of the free world. So far, so good.

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