The Peter Zeihan Podcast Series - The Debt Ceiling Issue: Will the US Gov Default? || Peter Zeihan

Episode Date: May 23, 2023

We're talking US politics today, and for those who don't eat, sleep, and breathe politics (aka having a life), it's about the debt ceiling. Spoiler Alert: It will probably end the same way it always d...oes... Full Newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/zeihan/the-debt-ceiling-issue-will-the-us-gov-default

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey everybody, Peter Zion coming to you from Windy Ford Lauderdale. Sorry about the background noise. It's unavoidable on this one, but that's okay because I'm talking about U.S. politics today, specifically the debt ceiling issues. For those of you who don't obsess about the ins and outs of what's going in Washington, I understand if you don't understand what's going on, that's totally fine. The very short version is, is since the United States runs a significant budget deficit, that requires approval from Congress to raise the funds that are necessary to run the government. government. And so every couple of years, whenever the White House and Congress are in different hands, whoever's in Congress tries to use this issue as leverage to get political concessions in one way or the other. Rarely happens at all when the same party controls both houses, but since we're in divided government right now, the Republicans are trying to wring some concessions out of the Biden
Starting point is 00:00:49 administration. Now, if the United States were to not increase the debt ceiling, that would mean that the United States would no longer be able to raise capital in order to fund government activities. And that would hit everything, whether it's Social Security, Medicare, or Medicaid, or the military, or the food stamp programs. Basically, the government would have to triage and decide what not to spend money on and actually live within its means. Now, there is no one that I know of who has two brain cells to rub together in Washington who thinks that a default on U.S. debt or a collapse of the U.S. government functioning would be a good idea. So usually this is just used for political theater and in order to generate a pretext for getting some concessions and both parties have played that game.
Starting point is 00:01:34 The reason that this has gotten a lot closer to the wire with us now within a month of the United States actually defaulting or entering into Brett Budgetary Crunch is because our political system has shifted significantly. Now, for those of you who have been following me for a while, you know that I'm of the belief that we're going through a political transition that we go through every once in every generation or two. And when that happens, the factions that make up the parties move around, or they jump ship,
Starting point is 00:02:00 and maybe they come swing voters, maybe they switch sides. And while that's going on, everything is remarkably fluid and very angry, and social media certainly hasn't helped. The stage that we're at the moment is that Donald Trump succeeded in excising the fiscal and the business communities from the Republican coalition, but he's also succeeded in bringing the unions into the Republican Party from the Democratic coalition. And Joe Biden, now that he's present, has admittedly partially successful at breaking up the unions and the Republicans in trying to get the unions back. And what this means is that the unions, the fiscals, and the business conservatives are all in flux and all are basically swing voters.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Now, those are the three factions that know how to do math for which economics is the core part of why they're involved in politics. And so when you've got the three factions that know the most about things like math and finances and budgeting, no longer part of the political core, everyone else who's willing to use the debt ceiling as a political wedge can go a lot farther because there's no longer a group of sane people in the background and say, no, we're not going to do that. We're to try something else. We're seeing something similar with the Greens. Because we don't have unions, fiscals, or business voters represented in Washington at really at any level, the Greens are able to impress their view of economics on a lot of policies, and so we're getting a few things that maybe don't hold up to normal fiscal rules. I still don't think we're going to be facing a default. I still think we're going to have a last-minute compromise. Joe Biden has canceled part of his Asia trip in order to come back and hammer out a last-minute deal. But this is probably going to go down to the wire, and that's simply because our political system is too much in flux. So hopefully that brings a little bit of context, a little bit of detail,
Starting point is 00:03:49 into what has become an unnecessarily problematic development. And I hope, hope, hope, cooler heads will prevail in the long run. All right, that's it for me. You guys take care.

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