The Peter Zeihan Podcast Series - The United States Dominates Signal Intelligence || Peter Zeihan

Episode Date: May 5, 2023

We’ve poked holes in the US system and talked about Russian intelligence declining, so today, let’s look at what the US dominates: signal intelligence (SIGINT). Full Newsletter: https://mailchi....mp/zeihan/the-united-states-dominates-signal-intelligence

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey everybody, Peter Zion here coming to you from just above Denver. It's almost May, which means it's almost hiking season. Almost, not yet. Anyway, I am going to talk a little bit about the other side of the intelligence questions. So we poked a few holes in the American system. We've talked about the leaks. We've talked about how the Russians do theirs and why they're good at and why they're maybe not as good as they used to be.
Starting point is 00:00:21 But I want to talk about how the United States does things. Now, the United States is a country that, while it is firmly bilingual, The population as a whole is not particularly multilingual. So, you know, you go to the Netherlands and your random shopkeeper is going to speak like six languages fluently and then, you know, be able to command a half a dozen more. Most Americans are luckily like me if they can spell in English. And the truly fortunate among us are bilingual with Spanish. And that's about it. And that makes it a very small pool of people to draw from if you want to do large-scale intelligence operations that have a human element to it.
Starting point is 00:00:58 And so all of our intelligence programs include some very, very, very intensive language training, because not just not a lot of people come into the space with that, especially when you consider that one of the big pools for intelligence personnel or former military personnel. And if you're working for four or eight, you know, two, three, whatever, tours, language competency in a foreign language isn't necessarily all that common. Or maybe you have one. And since American foreign policy changes every few years based on who the rivalry of the moment happens to be, You know, we're always having to recreate that language, that language competency, which means
Starting point is 00:01:33 when it comes to humid, we're not that great. In addition, the United States is a very rich country. And convincing someone to go abroad and basically work in a danger zone for danger pay is a bit of a stretch, whereas if you're in a poorer country or a country that has a lot more geopolitical stress right in its immediate environment, it's an easier sell to the population. So small pool, expensive pool, and that pool still requires extensive training. So the United States just doesn't excel at human intelligence, humant. What we do excel, however, is sighing or signals intelligence.
Starting point is 00:02:05 And that's the idea that you intercept electronic signals, whether it's in the form of a phone call or an email or a text message or a tweet, and you trace it back to its source and you monitor it, hopefully without the other side realizing that you're doing and you just kind of get the raw feed coming in. This is then processed with computers, which eliminates 99.9% of everything is noise. and then that last 0.1% approximately
Starting point is 00:02:28 goes through a human filter where it's sorted out to levels of importance. Because the United States is the largest first world country and the largest economy in human history and because electronic communications are now omnipresent, the U.S. has gotten really good at this. There was a program that the Europeans hated a few years ago. They called it echelon,
Starting point is 00:02:51 where basically the United States used its signals intelligence dragnet to cover all global companies. communications. And while it was never as far reaching as the Europeans thought, it was still pretty cool, because all you need is a radio tower to collect the information. And if you throw in global cell towers plus global satellites, that is a lot of collection potential. Now, do we do it alone? The answer to that is a hard no. We cooperate with any number of allies, but there are four that are far more important than the others put together. The United Kingdom, Australia, New Zealand, and Canada. And collectively, these form what are called the five eyes. They cooperate
Starting point is 00:03:35 on the gathering of intelligence, the analysis of what comes in, and then they share the findings among themselves. And that makes these four countries the tightest allies we have. Yes, we fight. That's what family does. But it does mean that the United States has a grip, a really good grip, signals intelligence the world over. Now there have been some issues that have come and gone through the years that have made this more or less effective. The general obsession with encryption that started a few years ago certainly has made it more problematic, but AI in processing power has almost kept track with that. So the United States is able to, once it identifies a person of interest,
Starting point is 00:04:12 apply a lot of supercomputer time in order to crack whatever the encryption happens to be. That means that the dragnet covering all of humanity is pretty much non-existent any. anymore, but focus signals intelligence is wildly effective, and it remains the United States number one source of intelligence information. That doesn't mean we don't do human. It doesn't mean that human intelligence is not important to the United States. It's critical, especially for any ongoing military operation when it comes to locating suspects. But signals intelligence tells us where to look in the first place. And then those fewer, those more rare human intelligence assets are deployed once we have a general idea of what sort of neighborhood we're looking at.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Okay, that's it for me. Until next time.

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