The Peter Zeihan Podcast Series - The US Places Huge Tariffs on Chinese Imports || Peter Zeihan

Episode Date: May 15, 2024

Some hefty tariffs have just been placed on many Chinese imports, including electric vehicles, semiconductors, solar panels, and more. This is an attempt to prevent China from dominating industries th...at the US wants to develop. Full Newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/zeihan/the-us-places-huge-tariffs-on-chinese-imports

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello from Positive, Peter Zion, here's Stone, Poland. Today is the 14th of May. You'll see this on the 15th, and the news is that the American administration under Joe Biden has just announced a series of very robust tariffs on Chinese imports. Roughly 100% on electric vehicles, about 50% on semiconductors and solar panels and similar levels on a raft of other things. The goal very simply is to prevent the Chinese from swamping industries that the Biden administration is attempting to develop. This is something that has extraordinarily high bipartisan support. In fact, Donald Trump has already come out not in favor, because I've found his style saying I would have done even more.
Starting point is 00:00:39 And that's actually kind of on the point. The Chinese will respond to this by increasing their subsidies even more, which will force this administration or the next one to again up the tariff levels. Basically, the Chinese government will not be allowed to swamp products of these types and an increasingly wide a variety of types into the American market at all. Now, that will, of course, trigger its own counter effects because the Chinese will then try to put it into any market they can. Here in Europe, the question, like in the United States,
Starting point is 00:01:12 isn't, will there be tariffs on Chinese products, but how high? Now, under policies currently under consideration by the European Commission, who is kind of the executive arm of the European Union, tariffs are coming, but they're going to be somewhere between 10 and 40%, most likely, and that's just not enough. The Chinese subsidization of these industries are so extreme that anything less than 100% that the Biden administration has done
Starting point is 00:01:34 is really not going to do more than slow things. And if you think Ford and GM have a lot of political pull in the United States, that's nothing compared to Mercedes and Fiat and Volkswagen. So high high tariffs are coming to Europe on these topics as well. The only other place these products can then go is the developing world, but the developing world, for the most part, doesn't have the electrical
Starting point is 00:01:58 system that's necessary to use the electric vehicles. So the Chinese will be able to swamp some of these markets, but not enough to move the needle on where the Europeans versus the Americans versus the Chinese fielding to be. Now, keep in mind that part of the reason why the Chinese are doing this is in the five years since the COVID started, the Chinese are now realizing that their population has shrunk a lot more than they originally fought. So they no longer, have enough people under age 45 to mount any sort of consumption-led economic recovery. And with the exception of industrial demand in China the last two years, we've really seen no increase in consumption at all. The population is simply aged out. So export-led growth
Starting point is 00:02:41 is all they have. And they're no longer being allowed access to the American market, and very soon they won't be allowed sufficient access to the European market as well.

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