The Peter Zeihan Podcast Series - Ukraine's Energy Scandal || Peter Zeihan

Episode Date: November 27, 2025

Some officials over in Ukraine have been stuffing their pockets with $100 million stolen from the energy sector. Before you get worried that someone has been dipping into the US or EU aid...this dates back long before all that started flowing in.Join the Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/PeterZeihanFull Newsletter: https://bit.ly/3X7C15a

Hey, all, Peter Zinian here, company from Colorado. Today we're going to talk about a scandal that's breaking in Ukraine. President Zelensky is in a bit of hot water because some of his former allies, not current, have basically been charged, accused of stealing upwards of a $100 million from the system, mostly from the energy sector. What this is, what this is not. Let's start with what that is not. This isn't people stealing aid that has come from the European Union or the United States

to help with the budget or military equipment or anything of that. In fact, the Ukrainians have a really digitally ironclad system where they film every part of the weapons transfer system right up until its usage. So there's a digital record showing that it didn't end up in a black market. So people who say that, that's just conspiracy theory bullshit, mostly generated by the Russian bot farm. What it is, though, is real corruption.

The Ukrainian energy system is kind of a mess, and not just because of the war. It used to be completely state-controlled, and you basically had a government enterprise who controlled the natural gas transit system that crossed the country from the Russian space into the European space. The Ukrainians charged transit fees for that and then took a bit of the natural gas as payment in kind in order to fuel their entire economy.

And because the energy was coming from the former Soviet system, the people who were in charge of it had a very bureaucratic Soviet mindset. And part of the bureaucratic Soviet mindset is I get 2%. So what happened was Ukraine unique among the former Soviet republics and really unique within the Eurasian landmass thought of itself as having free energy provided by the Russians from 1992 when formal independence happened until very, very recently, certainly until the war started in 2022. And so there was never any effort by the Ukrainian state to become more efficient. And in terms of the calories burned or the energy consumed per dollar of GDP, Ukraine usually figured in the very,

very bottom of countries in the world, certainly on the continent. So the people who were in charge of the system made money on the throughput. And so volume was all that they cared about because they got a percentage cut of everything. Enter the war. With the war, the energy system has been under attack and the state bureaucratic model is not very good at responding to that because it's never been about efficiency. So bit by bit by bit, the Ukrainian system has become more efficient because if it hadn't, the power plants would have never been rebuilt. The transformer stations would have never been repaired and the country would be living in the dark. You put this against that old statist model and eventually we were going to get a crunch because Zelensky, like every president

before him, had to keep the lights on. And so the people, people who were the corrupt ones he had to work with. The new ones who came in were operating on more of what we would call a market basis here in the United States, and they were getting more and more and more of the system because every time something was damaged, it moved out of full state to control into some more of a hybrid system. Well, so much has now been destroyed, especially this last winter, that finally these two almost diametrically opposed approaches, vast volumes and corruption versus more efficiency came to a clash and now we've got the exposure.

Is it something that can bring the Zelensky government down? Who knows? He definitely involved himself with the people because he was the president and that was the country and that's what he inherited and he had to. Does that mean it could have been cleaned up sooner? Sure, but I'm not the one that's fighting a war right now, so I have a hard time making that value judgment. All we know for certain now is that the,

the chief people responsible have fled the country. And so they're definitely no longer getting their cut. And that means we're probably going to see a significant overhaul of what's left of the stateist energy system in just the next few weeks. Against the backdrop of the Russians being much more effective at targeting energy assets across the country. So it's not just that we had a corruption scandal and now the personalities are changing.

We also have had so much physical destruction of the assets that it's a question of whether the old system will persist at all. keep in mind that the Europeans have now cut completely their use of oil and natural gas that comes through Ukraine from Russia. Those pipelines are basically shut down now with a couple of minor exceptions. So we were always going to see a house cleaning of this from an economic point of view. Now we're getting a house cleaning from a political point of view as well.