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Episode Date: December 17, 2025The newly released national security document from the White House is more of a culture-war manifesto than a strategic guide for US foreign policy.Join the Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/PeterZ...eihanFull Newsletter: https://bit.ly/3KTsX12
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Hey, L. Peter Zine here coming to you from Colorado, and today we're going to talk about the new
national security document that was put out by the White House. Now, the whole idea of the document,
it comes out every year, and it's supposed to be the White House's guidance to the rest of
the U.S. government about what our goals are and what we're worried about on an international
stage. So it's supposed to be tactical advice for generals and admirals and diplomats and all the
rest. That's not what we got this time. What we got this time was,
the American culture war in international form. It's basically a campaign document. And whereas all the
national security documents in the past have been designed around guidance, this is really just a lot of
really assertive claims. And while in the past it's all been about the United States, this is one
is very much about Donald J. Trump. His name came up almost 30 times in the document. As far as I am
aware, in the decades that the White House has been putting this document together. Never once has the
sitting president's name arrived at all because it's not about one guy. It's about the country.
That is not the case. And again, this is basically a culture war document taking American domestic
political considerations and projecting that onto the international system, something that won't
work very well because in the United States, if you run for president of a political faction,
you have to rally that faction. That's how Trump became president. That's how he got the Republican
nomination. That's how he took over the party. Yes, yes, yes. But that doesn't
work on the international stage because there is no vote. This is a document that is
basically designed to be red meat for MAGA and provides absolutely nothing for guidance for
policymakers. It also does a couple of things that are grossly against American
national interests. For example, it almost expressly ascribes a specific sphere of influence
that no one else should have power in for both China and Russia and in conflict with several things
that have actually come out of this administration
has actually said that the Chinese should have a right
to basically control everything in their neighborhood.
Russia barely comes up at all
despite the fact that the Russians have killed more Americans
over the last 30 years than any other country,
far more than anyone involved in the war on terror.
Obviously, not a lot comes up about Ukraine.
No real shock there.
But what is perhaps most concerning
from an international point of view
if you're not an American
is the attitude towards Europe.
Basically, the Trump administration is now saying
and it's an American national interest for the politics of Europe
to revert to back to where it was in the 1930s.
And I'm like, oh, my God.
It's like, you guys, remember what happened in Europe in the 1930s?
It was not a pretty place.
It says national interests of the United States
involve, include the ethnic breakdown of individual European states,
which is, hmm, I mean, fascist and racist are the two words you would probably want to use.
And the Europeans are...
let me put it this way if this really is what the united states wants then we are basically asking
the europeans to go back to the darkest page of their history and basically kill anyone that doesn't
look like them uh and to rearm as part of that process and have an independent foreign and security
policy every time that that has happened in the past europe has gotten really fucking crazy
in a very short period of time most recently we called it world war two and before that world war
one, and then the half dozen major wars we had in the 19th century as well. But let's put that
to the side. Does this mean that this thing doesn't matter? Because there's no real guidance.
It's really just a political stake in the ground. Not what I'm saying. It matters very much for
two big reasons. Number one, this administration is really bad at building institutions. And to
implement the things that are in this document requires a fundamental rethinking of American governance
and especially the American military.
For example, one of the things that says it wants to do
is use the military to secure the southern border.
If that is what we want to do,
that means no more F-35s, no more Abrams,
no more special forces.
That means retraining the military
to patrol an area that's 2,000 miles from end-to-end
to an indeterminate amount of thickness
in order to catch illegal migrants.
That is a very different sort of force.
And the force we have now is vastly overtraud.
trained for that. And we'd be basically taking people that we've invested somewhere like
$100 to $400,000 per person based on the job to basically make them mall cops, massive waste
of material, massive weights of skill sets, and the time that it would take to build up an
institution that was capable of doing that is not something that you measure in months or even
years. Great example is what the Trump administration is trying to do with immigration and customs
enforcement. They're trying to double the number of agents. And for their domestic policy concerns,
that makes a lot of sense.
But what they're discovering is when you take the rhetoric of the White House
and combine it with the reality of the immigration pool in the United States,
you get a very different situation.
According to the rhetoric, they're going after the drug dealers and the rapists.
According to the data, most of the people that have been arrested have no record whatsoever
or of very, very minor infringements.
And so when you're recruiting people for that specific task
and the people who start to look at the jobs realize that the drapes don't match the carpet,
you get a very different sort of applicant. And so the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Bureau has
had to basically dumb down their training regimen. They've gone from a 16-week course to a six-week
course. They've removed Spanish proficiency, and they've basically started to actively recruit
from like white power gangs because they're having a hard time getting people who have a sense
of what law enforcement is about, who really want to uphold the rule of law to go into downtown
Chicago and get people who are trying to, you know, do yard work. I actually have a client who
told me a couple of weeks ago that she got hit by a little tear gas when she was out for a walk
with her dog because ICE was raiding a house where a guy was finishing a bathroom. Because,
you know, the Sinaloa cartel of bathroom finishers, that's the real threat. When the rhetoric is
done for ideological purposes, eventually it crashes into reality. And that happens here. And it's
making very hard for this administration to build an institution. They're pretty good at tearing them
down, which brings us to the next piece. Something that can be done out of this document is a whole
scale reshifting of American military power from the Eastern Hemisphere to the Western Hemisphere. Very,
very clear that that is something that this administration wants to do. That can be done. You can
shut down the bases in the Eastern Hemisphere. You can reposition your military in this hemisphere and
carry out different sorts of activities here. Now, according to the document, they want to do that
with allies. The problem is, is that the three countries in the Western Hemisphere that the United
States has the strongest links with to battle human migration and to battle illegal narcotics
are the three countries that this administration has gone out of their way to antagonize
Canada, Mexico, and Colombia. Meaningful trade talks with Canadians are at a stand still at the
moment. The Mexicans are basically dodging every bullet that the Trump administration can fire
their way, and now President Trump itself is down on record calling the President of Columbia
a drug dealer. So this is stuff we're going to have to do ourselves if we are serious about it.
One of the advantages of the old system where the United States control the global order
and led this vast alliance network is when the rubber hit the road, if shooting ever actually
happened, the U.S. took control of almost the entirety of the alliances
armies and navies and air forces, massive force multiplier before you even consider things like
basing rights. If we're going to do this in the Western Hemisphere, if we're going to do this
ourselves, you're talking about a military budget that's going to have to at least double
and a massive retraining of everything that we have had the military do over the last 60 years.
That is a lot of wasted investment in order to do things that would be much easier to do
hand and glove with some allies. So overall, what do I think about this document? Well,
I don't think you're going to find a lot of people with any intelligence or security experience,
much less economic experience, who think there's a lot here that is worth salvaging. But this is
only year one of a four-year term for Trump round two. And there is a lot of time between now
and the next presidential election where things like this can actually dig in. Until this,
administration can prove that it can build something as opposed to just
tear it down, we're simply looking at a reduction in the ability of the United
States to affect the world around it. And that is something that will
reverberate throughout the world for decades to come.
