The Peter Zeihan Podcast Series - Will the West Greenlight Strikes Inside Russia for Trigger Happy Ukraine || Peter Zeihan

Episode Date: May 31, 2024

The Western world is beginning to entertain the conversation over the use of Western weapons targeting Russian systems within Russia. There are a handful of countries that have issued their support, b...ut will it be enough? Full Newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/zeihan/will-the-west-greenlight-strikes-inside-russia

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, everybody. Peter Zine here, coming to you in Genoa and the Piazza Villa Vittoria. The news today is that the Europeans, and to a lesser extent, the Americans, are debating how involved they want to get in the Ukraine war in terms of weapons and targeting. The idea, what the Ukrainians have been asking for for some time, and what the Scandinavians and the Central Europeans have picked up on, is as long as Russia is on the attack, in places like Kharkov and Blahnsk and Nats, that they should have the ability to use whatever weapon systems they can get their hands on to target Russian weapons systems and launches within Russia if they're part of an active conflict.
Starting point is 00:00:39 The idea being that if you see that there is an airbase just on the other side of the border, where fighter bombers are taking off day in, day out, and bombing civilian locations in Ukraine, then it's silly to not use things like mid-range missiles to go after that airbase. To this point, in order to contain the escalation threat, the West has pretty much put a blanket ban on that sort of weapon strikes from the Ukrainian. It's basically saying that if it comes from the United States or Germany or NATO in general, then you can't use it to strike targets within Russia proper.
Starting point is 00:01:10 That is now weakening. We've got three things in play here. First, the countries in question. Number two, the personalities within Russia, and then three next steps. So first, let's talk about the countries. Sweden, Poland, and the rest of the countries in northeastern and central Europe have been advocating for this for some time. And so the countries that are most likely to bear some of the blowback being on board, you know that it's going to happen sooner or later. The question is how and when.
Starting point is 00:01:36 In the last couple of weeks, the country that has really stepped and started to argue from the Polish and the Swedish point of view is France. And Emmanuel Macron, the president of France, is saying that this is obviously a silly restriction and we need to release it. That just left the more conservative members of the coalition who are really, really concerned about what the blowback will be, but in the last week, Olaf Schultz, the Chancellor of Germany, who has been consistently the most conservative voice in the alliance on pretty much everything regarding this war, has said that, yeah, this is something that has to happen. And that really puts pressure on the United States to act as well. Right now, the largest country that's saying flat out, maybe not
Starting point is 00:02:13 no, but whoa, whoa, whoa, let's think about this slowly, is the government here, Melonia of Italy has basically said, it's kind of funny, she's basically called out the French for being French, for having saying some big things, but not necessarily doing anything, which is, you know, kind of cute from my point of view, anyone who takes the French test like that. But the point is that this conversation has happened. It's already happened at the EU level and there's not necessarily been a green light, but the conversation is building steam. And the real question, of course, is the United States is going to go along since that's where most of its weapons come from. But, but, but the fact that the Germans are on board mean it's probably only a matter of time.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Now, how this normally goes down is that one country will say this weapon system can be used for this purpose, and they will be used, and they will test the Russian red line, and if nothing happens, that everyone piles on. That's what happened with the Caesar artillery, that's happened with the Storm Shurl missiles, and that's probably going to now happen for targeting things within Russia proper. That just leaves the personalities. How serious is what's going on in Russia in terms of the counter-threats? is this a red line that starts a nuclear war? Well, you look at the people involved.
Starting point is 00:03:26 The person who has been making most of the threats is Dmitri Medvedev, who is the former president of the country, which makes you think that maybe he's kind of important, but he's not. He's incompetent. He's basically an intern, and Vladimir Putin only keeps him around because he licks Putin's ass just so.
Starting point is 00:03:43 And so when you see him making the threat, you know it's not all that serious. It would be serious if it was coming from someone, say, Nikola Petruschev. who is the guy who used to run the entire intelligence system. But in the last month, he's basically been fired from his position and downgraded. So what Putin has discovered is the people that he has surrounded himself are really good at talking a good game, but not necessarily good at prosecuting a war.
Starting point is 00:04:07 So he sacked his defense minister, brought him into a less dangerous position, put an economist and a bean counter in charge of defense ministry, which in time, if it works, will make for a more competent defense industry, not because people will know how to fight, but because it won't all be stolen. But then at the National Security Council, he basically just put his crony in there and fired the guy who can actually find Canada on a map. That's Petrushev. So we're in this flocks when it comes to Russian foreign policymaking
Starting point is 00:04:36 and especially strategic decision making, which I think the Europeans have picked up on and why they're having this conversation now. Because right now Putin's inner circle is anything but competent At a minimum, it needs more time to find its feet after this most recent shakeup. And that's a great time to up the ante in a way that the Russians are going to find very, very, very uncomfortable.

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