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Sup you beautiful bastards.
Welcome back to the Philip DeFranco show,
you daily dive into the news.
And we have so much to talk about today,
but first we got to talk about Hurricane Milton
and its aftermath.
Starting with CNN's Anderson Cooper,
who I guess lost a bet.
And the water now is really starting to pour over.
If you look at the ground, whoa.
Okay.
That wasn't good.
Anderson, I'm just saying, my man,
I don't think they want to pay out
the rest of your contract.
But the main thing, right?
Hurricane Milton made landfall south of Tampa Bay last night
as a category three storm with wind speeds
as high as 120 miles per hour.
Though, as it moved inland, it degraded to a category one.
And as Thursday unfolded, the high winds,
storm surge, and flooding rain continued.
But conditions were expected to improve
as Milton wandered away from Florida into the Atlantic.
And with that, we saw Governor Ron DeSantis
delivering good news this morning.
What we can say is the storm was significant,
but thankfully this was not the worst case scenario.
The storm did weaken before landfall
and the storm surge as initially reported
has not been as significant overall
as what was observed for Hurricane Helene.
Right, well, 10 to 15 feet of storm surge
was projected before landfall.
Milton turned out to be,
and I feel confident saying this because it's gone now,
turned out to be a little bitch,
little bitch ass bitch, I mean, comparatively.
With the worst of it swamping Sarasota,
which got around eight to 10 feet of water,
though most other areas got less.
But still, with that said,
the storm did cause some spectacular damage,
with winds tearing the roof off
of the Tropicana Field Stadium in St. Petersburg
with the Tampa Bay Rays play,
as well as there being a tower crane collapsing
into a building in the same city.
And then in Leesburg, nearly 2 million gallons
of raw sewage spilled
from a flooded wastewater treatment plant.
And across the entire state,
Milton knocked out power for some 3.3 million people
as of this morning.
But now that the storm has veered off into the ocean,
rescues are already pulling survivors
from damaged buildings and vehicles,
with President Biden saying that he pre-deployed thousands of federal personnel to
affected areas. And while the death toll is expected to climb as bodies are recovered, we know for sure
that at least nine people have died so far. Though notably, at least four of them, they weren't killed
by the hurricane directly, but rather the tornadoes, dozens of which were reported around the state
absolutely tearing up power lines, cars, and mobile homes. So, you know, it kind of makes sense with all
these shocking videos and headlines,
people would get the impression that all of Florida
is basically an apocalyptic wasteland now,
which is something that's actually now prompted
some online personalities who live there
to dispel a lot of the panic,
with the likes of Moist Critical, for example, saying.
Pretty much every comment on every video I posted
for the last three days is talking about
how ridiculously stupid it is
that I'm not evacuating Tampa during every stream recently.
It's like calling me the Milton maniac for refusing to leave against the orders of the state, this and that.
And I want to clear up some confusion here.
I was never in a dangerous area that Milton was going to be devastating for.
Not in an evacuation zone, not in a flood zone,
nothing like that.
There was never, like no one in my neighborhood evacuated,
none of my family, friends, or anyone evacuated
because we were not in that path.
Charlie also adding that he understands
why people are so concerned
and appreciates that they care about.
Also, a big thing is that while this storm wasn't as bad
as forecasters expected,
the political fallout has been much, much worse.
With just a number of meteorologists describing
how they have been bombarded with death threats
as they try to debunk all the conspiracy theories.
With one even venting to the Washington Post by saying,
"'This is by far the worst misinformation
"'for a weather event I've ever seen in my career.'
As well as,
"'I've been messaging friends who I went to college with,
"'who I've worked with previously in this industry,
"'and we're all just baffled by the amount of buffoonery
"'happening on social media,
which is a front that we didn't have to deal with before.
And another expert telling Rolling Stone,
"'People are just so far gone.
"'It's honestly making me lose all faith in humanity.'"
With him explaining that over the last week,
he has gotten hundreds of messages from people accusing him
of modifying the weather
and creating hurricanes from space lasers.
And with this, you have folks like environmentalist,
Bill McKibben, pointing out that although politicians
like Ron DeSantis are not spreading conspiracy theories
directly related to Milton, they are still promoting
the anti-science bullshit that laid the foundation for it.
With people pointing to how the Florida governor,
for example, banned the phrase climate change
from state statutes back in May, or saying, quote,
"'I'm not a global warming person,' whatever that means.
But then also there are politicians doing both kinds of lies
like Marjorie Taylor Greene and Donald Trump,
both of whom were called out explicitly by President Biden yesterday as he condemned false claims that property is being confiscated, that people aren't getting aid or that aid is being diverted to migrants.
Quite frankly, these lies are un-American.
What the heck are they talking about? Stop it. It's outrageous. It's just not true. But then separate from that shit that will either make you furious or make you kind of just have no faith in humanity,
there are a lot of people putting aside politics
and just trying to help.
With, for example, country musicians like Keith Urban,
Luke Combs, and Eric Church planning a benefit concert
for October 26th to help Helene's victims.
You also have country singer Morgan Wallen
helping collect supplies at a food drive
and donating half a million
to the American Red Cross for hurricane relief.
You got Dolly Parton donating a million dollars
of her personal funds to a Tennessee nonprofit
and adding another million through her businesses.
Finally here, Taylor Swift giving $5 million
to the nonprofit group Feeding America
to help victims of both storms.
So with that, while I commend them,
like for the people that are impacted, right?
I mean, we're talking about billions of dollars
in damage that these storms have likely caused.
So while philanthropy is nice and to be commended,
what's really gonna make the difference
for a lot of people is insurance.
And on that, we actually saw Florida officials
issuing an emergency rule yesterday evening
to protect homeowners against what they called
unfair and deceptive acts
and post-storm fraud by insurance carriers.
And this, after a Washington Post investigation
last year found that in the wake of Hurricane Ian,
insurers inaccurately reduced
people's initial damage estimates by between 45 and 97%.
And so this time around,
Florida's making insurance adjusters provide a written loss estimate to the policyholder
themselves, which is something many carriers have historically refused to do. And that estimate
must include each line item, each version and variation of the report, as well as all the
adjusters modification. With also the adjuster prohibited for making any changes to the initial
estimate, unless they provide quote, a detailed explanation as to why each change was made,
who made it and why it was necessary. Though of course, we're going to have to wait to see
if these policy changes actually make a difference. For billion-dollar companies and industries,
they have the time, money, and resources to try and get around things. But either way,
this, as state officials say, they anticipate significant, long-lasting, and potentially
devastating effects on the Florida property insurance market, with them adding that the
losses will be largely borne by Florida homeowners and small business owners.
But then we should talk about how Diddy is trying to get out of his
current situation, because he is now claiming that the feds are getting in the way of his right to a
fair trial, with him specifically accusing them of leaking evidence, including the video of him
assaulting his ex-girlfriend Cassie at a hotel in Los Angeles, which if you've seen, you remember
that video because it's so fucking horrifying. And that, of course, going viral after CNN published
it back in May, showing him kicking and dragging Cassie this,
even though he had previously denied claims
that he had assaulted her.
Now you have Diddy's lawyers saying in a court filing
that they might seek to have the video excluded
from his sex trafficking and racketeering trial.
With them claiming it and other evidence went public
via unlawful leaks that need to be investigated.
And then further claiming that investigators
in the Department of Homeland Security quote,
"'Engaged in a seven month campaign,
strategically leaking confidential grand jury material and information,
including the 2016 Intercontinental videotape, in order to prejudice the public and potential jurors against Mr. Combs.
With this, you have the New York Times noting that his lawyers did not cite direct evidence that DHS officials leaked the tapes,
but they did claim, quote,
the videotape was leaked to CNN for one reason alone,
to mortally wound the reputation and the prospect of Sean Combs
successfully defending himself against these allegations.
With the outlet also adding
that it has never actually been made clear
how the video made its way to CNN.
But with that, we did see a prosecutor deny
that federal officials were behind it,
saying that they possessed no copy
of that surveillance video prior to CNN's publication
and that any accusation claiming they did
lacked a good faith basis.
But, you know, it will be interesting to see what happens
because that video is a key piece of evidence in this trial.
Also, I just got to add this as part of just my opinion.
It doesn't feel like a great sign for Diddy
that his lawyers so far,
their best argument that I've seen publicly is,
hey, it really wasn't cool that the entire world got to see
what a violent scumbag monster our client was.
In a video that not only showed how dangerous
and horrifying this man is, but showed him to be a liar.
And I think it highlights how in this case,
they're going to try to distract, distract, distract
from what people have already seen
and all these things that are being claimed.
But then in kind of interesting entertainment news,
let's talk about the 50 most influential influencers.
Because the Hollywood Reporter just posted their list
and they went beyond just like,
"'Hey, here's some popular people."
And they dove deeper arguing that their presence online
shows their power and ability
to dominate other forms of media.
With the report specifically noting,
"'This list is an encapsulation of the ways
"'that comedians, writers, producers, makeup artists,
"'interviewers, and fashion moguls
"'have been captivating our attention
"'and the promise they hold in the industry.'"
And adding, "'Dear Hollywood,
"'These are the TikTokers, Instagrammers,
"'and YouTubers worth knowing and courting.
"'The digital natives starting the trends "' the rest of us eventually will chase.
And right at the top was Philip DeFranco.
And I just, I wanna say, I expected it, honestly,
but it is still an honor.
I'm kidding, I'm not on the list, nor should I have been.
Though I also will say the list didn't make it super clear
as far as ranking, right?
There was no number one through 50.
Instead, it was kind of just a shotgun blast.
So at the top of the list was Adam Faiz,
a producer and the founder of a content studio
that makes short form shows like Boy Room.
He kind of hit on the whole theme here,
noting that before being a creator,
he was attempting to sell TV shows and movies in Hollywood,
but now his content's actually getting seen by young people.
Also on the list, you have people
who have turned their online fame into podcasting ventures
like Brittany Broski and Alex Earle,
with other staple names popping up like Charlie D'Amelio,
Tana Mongeau, Kai Sinet,
as well as others sort of using their followings
to boost potential traditional entertainment careers,
right, like Jake Shane using his stardom
to interview major celebrities,
and Sabrina Briar and Benito Skinner,
who have gotten TV gigs from their online content.
You also have Le'Veigh after building an online following.
She has a Grammy and has toured venues
like the Hollywood Bowl.
You also have the fantastic YouTube OGs, Rhett and Link,
right, they've built an online empire
with Mythical Entertainment. If you wanna see the full list of 50, I'll link to it in the description.ett and Link, right, they built an online empire with Mythical Entertainment.
If you wanna see the full list of 50,
I'll link to it in the description.
I will say, well, I know that everyone's gonna have
different opinions about different creators on this list.
As someone who's been doing different versions of this
for like the last 18 years,
I really love seeing a lot of this.
We're in a world where mainstream popularity
and internet stuff constantly intersects.
We're having that big online celebrity.
It's not just a big get for your show now,
but it's an obvious thing for those people to do.
I mean, there are fucking presidential candidates
making the rounds on podcasts.
And I know there's good and bad that comes
with like the mainstreamification of online stuff.
But once again, as someone that's been doing this
long enough where for more than a decade,
people were like, get a real job.
Fucking love it.
But all that said, you know,
I know the internet is a very big place.
So I want to ask you watching right now,
who are your top three influential creators?
Which I know is a hard question.
Cause even after I posted it, I was like,
I don't know if I could narrow mine to three.
So I'm not gonna,
cause I'm gonna hurt some feelings on accident.
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understandably 90% of the focus of this election is the national race,
Floridians are also gonna be voting on a ballot measure
that can repeal the state's six-week abortion ban,
which is why we've seen ahead of the vote
organizers on both sides of the issue
desperately mobilizing their people to go out to the polls.
And this including the advocacy group
Floridians Protecting Freedom,
which says it purchased ad spots
in over 50 local TV stations.
But now, and the reason we're talking about it,
we're learning that the Florida Department
of Health's general counsel, John Wilson,
has sent cease and desist letters
to at least two of these stations,
ordering them to pull the ad.
Though also FCC records show
that other stations have received them
and Floridians Protecting Freedom say
most of the more than 50 have as well,
which props up the question of what is in this ad
that's so bad it's literally criminal.
Well with that, you know, I figure let's just play it
and let's see if you can figure it out.
When I saw the tumor on the MRI,
my first thought was, am I gonna be able to see my daughter again?
The doctors knew if I did not in my pregnancy, I would lose my baby. I would lose my life.
And my daughter would lose her mom. Florida has now banned abortion, even in cases like mine.
Amendment 4 is gonna protect women like me.
We have to vote yes.
Now with that, if you're left thinking, where was it?
What is it?
You've got folks saying it's pretty much indistinguishable
from any other pro-choice political ad
that's out there right now.
But not according to Wilson,
who argues that it violates Florida's sanitary nuisance law,
which is a key thing, is usually used to charge people
for stuff like overflowing septic tanks or unclean slaughterhouses.
And then for those of you out there saying,
but aren't political ads free speech,
Wilson has an answer for that as well,
arguing that this one isn't
because he said it is false and it is dangerous.
With him explaining that women who have, quote,
pregnancy complications posing a serious risk of death
or substantial and irreversible physical impairment
should seek medical treatment in Florida.
And adding, if they are led to believe
that such treatment is unavailable under Florida law,
such women could foreseeably travel out of state to seek emergency medical care,
seek emergency medical care from unlicensed providers in Florida, or not seek emergency
medical care at all. So with all that, he told the stations that if they do not pull this ad
within 24 hours, they will be open to a second degree misdemeanor charge, which in Florida
carries a sentence of up to 60 days in jail and a $500 fine. But that's almost certainly gonna be challenged in court
as FCC chair Jessica Rosenworcel already condemned
the threat saying,
the right of broadcasters to speak freely is rooted
in the first amendment.
Threats against broadcast stations for airing content
that conflicts with the government's views are dangerous
and undermine the fundamental principle of free speech.
But ultimately we're gonna have to wait to see one,
what happens with this legal battle, but also two,
what happens with the vote.
Because remember a big thing with Florida is that for the ballot measure you need
60% of the vote a simple majority of just over 50% that doesn't do anything then
Interesting news we should talk about the Menendez brothers case and how that's tying into the Los Angeles County District Attorney's race
Where the brothers are currently serving a life sentence for the murder of their parents in 1989
But many feel that their case was mishandled because both brothers claim that they committed the crime
in self-defense because their father sexually
and physically abused them starting in their childhood.
And this case has a lot of renewed attention
because as we talked about recently,
there was that new Ryan Murphy series called Monsters.
With a lot of the initial energy being backlash
or the Menendez family calling it misleading
and a grotesque shocker drama.
But the show, along with a newly released documentary,
it's given the case a new round of attention.
So much so that it led to LA County District Attorney,
George Gascon, saying that he would review the case, with him pointing to new
evidence that supports the brothers' claims of sexual abuse and saying, we have a moral and
ethical obligation to review what is being presented to us. And while he didn't also give
an indication as to where he was leaning, there is a possibility for a new sentencing or even a new
trial, with a hearing currently set for the end of November. But before they get to that hearing,
DA Gascon is up for reelection
and the polls have showed him trailing
far behind his challenger, Nathan Hockman.
And then actually connecting these two things
during a debate this week,
Hockman argued that Gascon's choice to look into the case
is an attempt to save himself
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...is incredibly suspicious.
Why October 3rd did Mr. Gascon have a press conference
to basically announce that he was thinking about the case? Right with him saying that Gascon could have considered the case earlier
when petitions had been filed, but he instead did it recently to distract from negative press
that he's received during his campaign. Now, for his part, Gascon noted that the case has been
moving for some time, but the news shows about the brothers caused him to receive a massive
influx of media requests, so he decided to hold the press conference to address everything at once.
It's not that we haven't had this.
It's not that this case wasn't on track to be reviewed.
We will have a decision shortly.
And by the way, the decision will be mine.
There are differences of opinion in my office.
I'm evaluating both of them,
but I will make the final decision.
Also now with all this,
you have the Washington Post putting out an op-ed
noting that back in the 90s,
the Menendez brothers' case was wrapped up
in a ton of turmoil and political and culture wars.
And saying that even though it's getting a second look, it feels like it hasn't escaped all the circus with the piece saying,
Take the DA's announcement about the Menendez brothers.
Seen one way, it's a welcome instance of the legal system working as intended.
Prosecutors should consider new evidence.
Seen another, it's the latest extraordinary TV moment in a case filled with them and not as distinct from all that came before as we might wish.
With a note in, Gascon is perhaps in need of a political Hail Mary, and he's just one of many people trying
to take advantage of the discourse and claim a little credit for giving the brothers a second
chance. With Ryan Murphy, for example, certainly feeling that he's owed credit, as he previously
told The Hollywood Reporter that despite his show receiving tons of backlash, quote,
the Menendez brothers should be sending me flowers. They haven't had so much attention
in 30 years. And this also is due to the likes of Kim Kardashian getting tied to this case last week, publishing an op-ed for NBC News, where she said
that it is time to free both brothers. Writing, I have spent time with Lyle and Eric. They are not
monsters. The killings are not excusable, but we should not deny who they are today in their 50s.
The trial and punishment these brothers received were more befitting a serial killer than two
individuals who endured years of sexual abuse by the very people they loved and trusted. I don't believe that spending their entire natural lives
incarcerated was the right punishment
for this complex case.
But with all that said, you know,
I would really love to know your thoughts on this case.
And not just on the potential for the case to be reviewed,
but on it getting another media circus with it.
And on this decision feeling so tied to true crime interest
and on these sorts of claims that people are kind of using
the case for their own purposes, for their own attention.
Or are you perhaps, you know, someone who believes
that the brother should be freed as long as it helps them,
what does it matter?
Yeah, really any and all thoughts on this,
I'd love to hear from you.
And then in some wild news, a man from Afghanistan
has now been arrested for allegedly plotting
an election day terrorist attack in the name of ISIS.
With him also reportedly recruiting his wife's younger
brother to help him do it.
With the two of them on Monday,
meeting with some people in rural Oklahoma,
purchasing two AK-47 assault rifles,
10 magazines, and 500 rounds of ammunition.
But those people, they were FBI assets.
So they got arrested.
And after the arrest,
he allegedly confirmed to law enforcement officials
that he had planned to target large gatherings of people
the day of the presidential election.
Well, right now, it's not clear exactly what he had planned.
Notably, he allegedly tried to access
surveillance cameras in DC
and went online to access the White House and Washington Monument webcams. Also, in addition
to that, the FBI searched the guy's phone and found that he communicated online with an ISIS
recruiter. He also allegedly accessed, viewed, and saved ISIS propaganda, participated in pro-ISIS
telegram groups, and contributed to a charity funneling money to ISIS. And then in addition
to that, he was also seen in video reading to two children texts that describes the rewards a martyr
receives in the afterlife, including a crown of jewels,
a place in heaven, and a marriage to 72 virgins.
And as far as what's gonna happen to this guy,
he's now charged with conspiring and attempting
to provide material support to the Islamic State,
which carries a maximum prison sentence of 20 years.
He's also been charged with receiving a firearm
to be used to commit a felony or a federal crime
of terrorism, which carries a maximum prison sentence
of 15 years.
And the brother-in-law, he's a minor,
so it's unclear what charges he'll face.
And of course, in addition to this getting attention
because of just how scary it is,
this is getting a lot of attention
because of the fact that the guy
was an immigrant from Afghanistan.
Which to speak on that,
the man reportedly entered the US legally in 2021,
about a month after the American military
completed its chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan.
And with that, as of recording,
it hasn't yet been revealed
whether they were radicalized before
or after arriving in the US.
But with this, you have people like Donald Trump Jr. jumping on this, saying,
Border Czar Kamala Harris literally imported a terrorist from Afghanistan into our country.
Enough is enough. And then Speaker Mike Johnson, for example, claiming Afghans arrived here with
little to no vetting and saying, whether it's their open border policies or failed foreign
policy, this administration continues to risk American lives by allowing terrorists, murderers,
rapists, and other violent criminals into our homeland. You know, with comments like that, well, there's just
a lot to unpack. Regarding foreign policy, for example, he's seemingly referring to the botched
withdrawal from Afghanistan. And there, it's important to say, it's something a lot of people
argue both Trump and Biden fucked up on. And then, you know, the whole open borders thing and letting
in criminals, we just know that's not accurate. I mean, it's part of the reasons I've seen so many
angry leftists. Democrats have actually been moving right on immigration, much to the disappointment of a lot of progressives and human rights advocates. Also, as we've seen before, it's part of the reasons I've seen so many angry leftists. Democrats have actually been moving right on immigration,
much to the disappointment of a lot of progressives
and human rights advocates.
Also, as we've seen before,
there's no evidence linking immigration and criminality.
And of course, talking about terrorism,
obviously we'd love to live in a world with none,
but in our current world,
far right and domestic extremism
are considered some of the biggest threats to this country.
And then regarding this particular alleged terrorist,
he wasn't imported.
Back in Afghanistan, he had apparently been working
as a security guard for the CIA.
And so with that, he reportedly entered the US
on one of the special immigrant visas
given to eligible Afghans who helped Americans
despite great personal risk to themselves
and their loved ones.
So notably, their officials reportedly told NBC News
the charging document is incorrect
and that the man entered on what's known
as humanitarian parole.
With that given to people on the basis
of urgent humanitarian reasons,
like the Taliban taking over and hunting down Western collaborators. But in any case,
according to a U.S. official, this man, like other Afghans who resettled in the U.S.,
would have gone through a robust security screening in other countries before coming here.
And so to be sure, like that is a very, very key takeaway here. And some have expressed real
concern that that process was flawed. With a report by the inspector general of the Department
of Homeland Security, for example, saying that the authorities did not always have critical data to properly screen,
vet, or inspect the evacuees at points of entry. Of course, with that, DHS has pushed back on that,
saying the inspector general's report didn't reflect the, quote, interagency and multilayered
vetting process that started overseas, continued at points of entry, and kept going even after
evacuees were in the country. And so I understand, given how close we are to the election, that
everyone's trying to score points, make everything political. But the big thing here is that there are real conversations
that we can have and we should have them.
But it is not as simple as trying to point a finger
at Kamala, Biden, or Trump.
And anyone that's doing just one of those things,
they're playing politics.
They're not talking about actual solutions.
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But then, let's talk about how Elon Musk
has basically been building a secret AI lair in Memphis.
One, talk about a Mad Lib headline,
and two, the man is not doing a lot
to beat the evil supervillain allegations.
And the thing is, it sounds worse
when I give you more context, right?
Because specifically, Musk has been building
a massive AI data center that could increase pollution,
cancer, and death rates
in a predominantly black neighborhood
that's already been fighting these issues for decades.
And that's without mentioning
the added strain on the environment.
So the data center in question has been set up to supply power for Musk's
artificial intelligence company, XAI, through an enormous supercomputer named Colossus. And I mean,
Musk, he says this thing is supposed to be bigger than any supercomputer we've ever seen,
with one Memphis official describing it as, quote, if you take the two largest supercomputers in the
world and you combine them and you multiply that by four, that's what we're building here in Memphis.
With specifically the main focus of the supercomputer
said to be training XAI's chatbot Grok,
which is said to be a competitor to ChatGPT.
With the company describing the bot
as having a sense of humor
and Musk calling it the most fun AI in the world.
Though it's not really clear what that means
besides the fact that Grok has fewer rules
than other AI chatbots
and has been known to create controversial deepfakes.
Right, and if you've been on X,
you might've seen some of its greatest hits,
like Mickey Mouse is a Nazi,
Donald Trump doing 9-11,
the Prophet Muhammad holding a bomb,
and Taylor Swift, Kamala Harris, and AOC in lingerie.
But to the point here,
Musk has been moving at lightning speed
to get the facility up and running.
But that rapid development
has also been totally shrouded in secrecy.
The initial deal to build the facility in Memphis
was negotiated under NDA back in March.
After just a few days of talks between Musk's team,
the city's utility, Memphis Light, Gas, and Water, and the city's local chamber of commerce. And while the construction began immediately after that,
the plan wasn't officially made public until months later during a press conference in June.
And as it turns out, it wasn't just the residents of Memphis who were hearing about the facility for
the first time. But in fact, you had key community leaders and even members of the city council
saying they were only informed just hours before the presser. And so unsurprisingly,
that caused a major uproar
from the community and local lawmakers
who condemned the total lack of transparency.
With them slamming Musk and the others
for fast-tracking this project
without even getting any input from the people of Memphis
and the politicians who represent them.
Multiple city council members also accusing the powers that be
of sidelining them in the decision-making process,
allowing the project to go forward
with little government oversight.
You know, that's something that we've seen
state-level officials arguing,
with state representative Justin J. Pearson, whose district
includes the area where XAI is located, saying, this is a terrible idea for Memphis. MLGW CEO is
not elected, and neither is anybody in the Chamber of Commerce last time I checked. It'd be really
wonderful if people who are unelected did start to talk to people who are elected to represent
the communities that they're seeking to do business in, because they would have heard from
our community that we don't want this.
And with that, we saw community leaders
and council members urging Musk and the developers
to slow down and actually include them
in this super important process.
But instead, XAI has still continued forward at warp speed,
with Musk himself even sharing job postings
for the facility in early July,
less than a month after it was publicly announced.
And then posting on X again later that month
to say the supercomputer had officially powered up
and was training AI models. And later confirming over Labor Day weekend that
the supercomputer was online while bragging about how fast they got it done. And during that time,
the demands by residents and city officials to include them in the process were largely ignored.
Basically, all they got was the one time when the utility MLGW did the bare minimum by sharing a
fact sheet and hosting a public forum back in August. But at that point, the project was nearly
done. Additionally, the Tennessee Lookout reported
that as of this summer,
XAI never hosted town hall style meetings with the community
and our research didn't turn anything up as well.
And that lack of transparency, community input,
and government oversight is especially concerning
given the specific location of the XAI facility,
the neighborhood of Box Town.
You see, Box Town is one of Memphis' oldest neighborhoods
and it was started by former enslaved people
after the Civil War and remains one of the city's
many predominantly black areas. But, and this is a key thing, in more recent
history, the area of Southwest Memphis has become a major industrial zone chock full of massive
corporations spewing all kinds of pollutants. And so as a result, just like so many other
predominantly black areas in America, Boxdown has long struggled with high levels of pollution,
which experts say have directly contributed to poor health outcomes. I mean, for example,
studies have found that Southern Memphis's cancer rate is four times
higher than the national average. And also, the life expectancy is a full decade shorter than in
other parts of the city, with the area also having elevated asthma levels. I mean, the American Lung
Association gave it an F grade for air quality. And it's not uncommon for the county health
department to issue alerts when ozone levels exceed federal standards unsafe for certain groups.
And all this is now many experts, officials,
and residents are concerned that the XAI facility
is just gonna make things worse.
And these AI data centers, they require tons of energy.
And because about 60% of electricity in the US
comes from fossil fuels, they are major emitters.
In fact, a Morgan Stanley report estimated
that data centers will emit three times more CO2
by the end of this decade
than if generative AI hadn't been developed.
And if Musk's claims are true, that Colossus is the world's largest supercomputer, this facility
could require a potentially historic amount of energy. So you have experts worrying that the
supercomputer's high demand for energy will make it a major emitter that will just increase the
pollution burden in an already overpolluted area. With some also noting that this is especially
worrisome given the fact that this project has just plowed ahead with little government oversight.
And I mean, already we have seen those exact fears coming to fruition, right? Just weeks after the
supercomputer powered up, XAI was accused of making pollution in the area worse by illegally
running gas turbines to power the company without a permit. With those missing permits later being
confirmed by the EPA, which vowed to investigate the matter. And the lack of the permits is super
significant because they mandate air quality testing and they're necessary to determine
essential benchmarks like the concentration of emissions and efficiency requirements for engines.
But without the permits, XAI has just been pumping tons of harmful nitrogen oxide into the air,
which can cause serious irritation to people's respiratory systems and other major health
problems. And I mean literal tons. One environmental group estimated that the turbines have the
capacity to emit around 130 tons of nitrogen oxides annually, which would actually make them the ninth largest source of the pollutants in the county.
And NPR reporting that XAI's ability to totally flaunt environmental rules
is a direct result of the fact that this project was so rushed and kept secret for so long.
And that is especially alarming because these unpermitted turbines
aren't the only major environmental concern with this facility.
Like, for example, it typically takes years before data centers this size can get on the grid
because utilities need to make sure
that they won't strain resources
for residents and other customers.
And that should be a big concern for XAI
because its size is unprecedented.
And Musk himself has said
that it will require 150 megawatts of electricity,
enough to power 100,000 homes each year.
And while MLGW has said it will only provide 50 megawatts,
XAI has requested the extra 100
and the utility told NPR
that it is still reviewing
the company's energy needs. So as a result, you have many worrying that Memphis's utilities can't
handle such a big consumer, especially because this grid has already been under strain recently,
resulting in rolling blackouts and residents being asked to reduce power usage. And in addition to
all that, data centers use enormous amounts of water to cool their servers. And XAI predicts
it will need 1 million gallons of water a day, about 3% the
total capacity of the local well field, which also provides water to residents. And while that may be
a fraction of the total supply, it is a huge amount for a single consumer, and many experts
say that it will put stress on the well field. Especially because Memphis' century-old water
infrastructure has failed several winters in a row. I mean, residents have been getting put on
boil advisories, being told to conserve water, and the water source has already experienced
contamination from arsenic and other dangerous chemicals that have leached in from decades of and getting put on boil advisories, being told to conserve water. And the water source has already experienced contamination
from arsenic and other dangerous chemicals
that have leached in from decades
of industry pollution in the area,
which is why experts say that heavy water usage by XAI
could exacerbate the problem.
And for many residents,
these concerns are only heightened by the fact
that Musk and his companies already have a sketchy record
when it comes to environmental concerns.
I mean, for example,
SpaceX has been fined numerous times in Texas
for allegedly discharging industrial wastewater without a permit. His underground tunneling business, Boring Co., has been fined numerous times in Texas for allegedly discharging industrial wastewater
without a permit.
His underground tunneling business, Boring Co,
is also fined by the state for disposing
of industrial stormwater without a permit.
And California has cited Tesla
for 33 different air quality violations.
Now with all that, MLGW has repeatedly insisted
that the XAI facility won't impact the grid
or water availability, in large part
because the company has vowed to invest in infrastructure
that will accommodate the energy needs.
With that, including a gray water plant that'll use treated wastewater
instead of drinking water for cooling, as well as a 150 megawatt substation and large-scale batteries
for electricity storage. And because XAI has said that they will pay for all that, local officials
who support the project argue that it will bring positive economic development to the area while
also creating new jobs. But it's also unclear right now if those new infrastructure promises
have been made in writing.
With earlier this summer,
Forbes reporting that they were just verbal agreements
and that MLGW said they don't have contracts.
And the outlet noting there that Musk has a long history
of promising public infrastructure
to the places that host his companies
and then under-delivering.
And they are pointing to major ongoing failures
with this Hyperloop project,
including some lines that appear
to have been just given up on entirely,
as well as his promise to build an ecological paradise
around the Tesla Gigafactory,
but then obtaining an exemption
from local environmental rules.
Also, as of recording, NPR reported that XAI
only had posted 37 job listings,
and the majority were actually based in California,
noting that data centers are highly automated,
so they have few employees,
which is why many politicians and community members
have expressed doubt that they'll see any of these benefits.
With, for example, Kashawn Pearson,
the executive director of the nonprofit
Memphis Community Against Pollution,
telling Time that he's skeptical for a number of reasons,
including the fact that community organizations
of Southwest Memphis have not had any conversations
or even contact with XAI.
Also noting that there hasn't been any job recruiting
or job training within the community
that this facility is supposed to boost economically.
And adding that people like him
who have lived in Box Town for a long time
have seen how similar projects have failed to bring about
any lasting economic development,
and instead just contributed to pollution
and health problems.
Saying, companies choose Memphis
because they believe it is the path of least resistance.
They come here, build factories,
pollute the air, and move on.
Saying, this is the same playbook
and the same talking points passed down
and passed around by these corporate colonialists.
For us, it is empty, it's callous,
and it's just disingenuous
to continue to regurgitate these things
without actually having plans
of implementation or inclusion.
But also, I mean, this could go a lot further than Memphis
because as time notes, given how huge this project is,
it will serve as a test
for whether the AI data center boom
is actually going to help improve local economies
or just continue to harm already disadvantaged communities
as they've done time and time again.
So for now, we'll have to wait to see,
we'll have our eyes on this,
but I'd love to know your thoughts,
especially if you're someone that is local.
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