The Philip DeFranco Show - PDS 10.2 Controversial Fake News Law, Shane Dawson, Ace Family Backlash, Harvard's Ruling, & More
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Welcome back to the Philip DeFranco show.
I'm Nikita Dragun and let's just jump into it.
Bitch.
I'm charging extra for that one.
Honestly, that one was so good.
Yet another PDS host I'm having to fire Nikita Dragun.
There just weren't enough controversies around her.
That said, despite Nikita's firing,
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But yeah, been doing these every Wednesday,
is going to keep doing it, I love it.
And this one with Nikita was really interesting
because I think no one would expect me to invite her on,
but I think that's also exactly why I did it, right?
A new day, new people, new conversations, new viewpoints.
But with all of that said, buckle up,
hit that like button and let's just jump into it.
And the first thing we're gonna talk about today is Harvard,
a college that of course was made popular by Daniel Cohn,
which is a reference maybe four of you get.
Not speaking to the right crowd on that one,
but we are actually talking about Harvard.
As you might remember, we've covered it on the show.
There's this lawsuit that says that Harvard
discriminated against Asian American applicants.
We actually did a deep dive on this back in December.
If you want to watch the full details,
I'll link to it down below.
But to give you a quick summary,
this lawsuit was brought in 2014
by a group called Students for Fair Admission.
And it claimed that Harvard was unfairly weighing race
when it came to the university's admissions process.
By basically saying it'd use racial balancing techniques
to set a quota for different minorities.
With the SFFA then alleging that Asian American applicants
were being forced to meet higher standards.
And that because they argued that Asian American students
were consistently performing better academically
than other minority races.
But when they looked at the racial breakdowns
between Harvard's freshman classes for different years,
they claimed that the percentage of admitted students
from different racial groups was about the same each year.
That being around 20% Asian American,
15% African American, 12% Latino,
with the other rough half of students being white.
They also accused Harvard of stereotyping Asian students
in the university's personal rating system,
which includes aspects like the applicant's background
and their character.
They claimed admissions officers
had used stereotypical language,
describing them as quiet, bland, or not exciting.
And so ultimately, they were asking Harvard
to stop looking at race in the admissions process.
Now on the other side of this,
you had Harvard defending itself,
saying that while it took race into account,
it was only one of about 200 other factors.
Some of those include in class year, gender, SAT, ACT scores,
GPA, also intended career,
and whether or not your parents went to an Ivy League school.
And with all of that said,
you had people saying that this could be a landmark case
because the SFFA was essentially calling
for an end to affirmative action.
And so the reason we're talking about this today
is that a judge has now rejected the SFFA's claim,
saying the court finds no persuasive documentary evidence
of any racial animus or conscious prejudice
against Asian Americans.
The judge also saying that the university shows commitment
to recruiting students who are, quote,
exceptional across multiple dimensions.
And concluded,
the court will not dismantle a very fine admissions program
that passes constitutional muster
solely because it could do better.
With Judge Alison Burroughs then saying
that the university only ever used race as a plus factor.
Right, so essentially saying it only considered race
to help students not hurt them.
You also had Burroughs throwing out the claims
of stereotyping in the personal rating section,
saying she found no evidence that the admissions officers
had looked at Asian students differently than other races,
adding that students from multiple races
had been referred to as quiet, shy, or understated.
So all of that now means that Harvard can continue
to consider race to build diverse classes.
But of course, while Burroughs did note
that Harvard's admission process isn't perfect,
perhaps the biggest conclusion that Burroughs reached
was that race-neutral alternatives are not sufficient.
And in fact, she says that race-conscious admissions
are actually needed to ensure diversity at Harvard.
She rejected ideas like Harvard admitting every applicant
with a perfect GPA, saying that the university
would have to expand its freshman class by 400% each year.
Then reject every student without a perfect GPA,
regardless of athletic, extracurricular,
or other academic achievements or life experiences.
She was also skeptical of other ideas
like looking at socioeconomic status instead of race, saying she feared such a process really wouldn't be race neutral. But yeah, that's the
story. It's done, but of course not done. The SFFA is expected to appeal this ruling, which would send
it to the first court of appeals, with SFFA president Edward Blum saying that he would appeal this to
the Supreme Court if necessary, which I will say is in no way surprising, right? This is kind of the
expected path with things like this, right? because yes, this case was about Asian Americans,
but you know, the entire topic
concerns affirmative action overall.
It's been a massively divisive topic for decades.
But also, actually, to backtrack a moment,
we've actually seen Harvard make some changes
since the SFFA brought the lawsuit.
In the admissions process for this year's freshman class,
Harvard directed its admissions officers to quote,
"'Not taking applicant's race or ethnicity into account
"'in making any of the ratings other than the overall rating.
It also changed its personal rating criteria
with officers now being asked
to consider qualities of character.
This including things like courage
in the face of seemingly insurmountable obstacles,
leadership, maturity, genuineness, selflessness,
humility, resiliency, judgment, citizenship,
and spirit and comradery with peers.
And so with those changes,
with the ruling that we're now seeing,
it'll be interesting to see what Harvard
and even also what other schools do from here.
But of course, with all of that said,
I'd love to know your thoughts on this one.
Then of course, briefly I said we'd talk about it
when it was released.
Shane Dawson released the first episode
of his new docu-series, right?
The Beautiful World of Jeffree Star,
which actually both follows Jeffree Star
as well as Shane Dawson.
There's really not much to say from this episode.
It seems like it's kind of an establishment episode.
Though there were moments that appeared to kind of tease
kind of the same thing that the trailer teased,
that there would be some sort of mention
of the James Charles scandal.
So, you know, usually it'd be James Charles,
Jaclyn Hill, whoever's free.
Yeah, that's what we like then.
Yes.
Next to them.
Got it.
Got it. Right there.
And kind of the most notable thing, I mean,
regarding news is that at the end of this video,
when they tease the next episode,
it appears that they are going to go into the business
of the beauty world,
which I would personally find fascinating.
There appears to be at least a tease or talks
about real margins on products.
And if Jeffree does share real margins,
I mean, that could completely shake up
the cosmetics industry, which obviously is huge.
That notable not only for creator to consumer,
but even what the split would be between Jeffree Star
and a Shane Dawson on a project together.
And I'm really fascinated in that
because kind of this mixture of personal relationships
with business proposals and business ventures,
how does that work together?
It appears to be a world just filled with accusations.
So kind of any transparency or insider look,
I think would be amazing.
But we'll see, Shane and his shooter editor, Andrew,
they're like masters of the tease.
But yeah, I guess ultimately we'll have to wait and see.
And to those that actually watched the first episode,
what are your thoughts?
But, and it is another quickie,
there was some YouTube backlash today,
this time involving the semi-frequent contestants
that is the Ace Family, specifically Austin McBroom
and Catherine Paiz, and if I'm mispronouncing that,
I do not care.
But there's this now viral video of them
that has been spread around, I'll let you see it.
Guys, we are literally working right now at a restaurant.
Like, Austin has been making food for the past hour
and I've been taking orders.
Do you understand how cool that is?
The main tweet of this video that went viral
had the caption, LMFAO, I fucking hate millionaires.
Are you kidding me?
People like Michael J. Murphy tweeting,
ace family is the worst man.
Drew Gooden tweeting, imagine being so disconnected
from reality that you get this excited
about pretending to work in a restaurant for two hours.
Even a person I consider to be like the nicest person
on YouTube, Simply Nailogical, Christine,
tweeting, wow, what a challenge.
Working a traditional job, like 99% of your subscribers
"'or their parents have.'"
And here's what I'll say based off of what I've seen,
because they also ended up posting
a much longer YouTube video around this.
I understand that I'd probably get more views, some love,
or you bash on someone that's large.
I personally don't think it's that deep.
Like, I mean, if the criticism is,
"'Hey, look at these multi-millionaires
"'who every video that I've ever seen of theirs
"'is kind of like, look at our crazy expensive dope shit
that they're disconnected from the everyday person
and their experience, yeah.
Them experiencing a normal person's life
is like if you went to one of those old timey places
and they're like, we're gonna churn butter today.
You're like, what, other people used to do this?
But out of all the things to take shots at them for,
this is arguably one of the weaker ones.
And while yes, they did make this video for content
and because they are who they are,
they're not gonna actually understand what it is
to live this life every day.
I personally believe, and this is kind of now less
about their video and kind of more just random advice.
I know some young people watch me.
Everyone at some point should work a server job
or kind of just a food dealing with the public job.
It taught me how to interact with other human beings.
It taught me how to deal with irate people,
how to get people to like me more, read body language.
Also just the experience in general of serving someone else.
It kind of grounds you.
I'm personally thankful that I had those experiences
in my life.
And then let's talk about this really interesting story
coming out of Singapore.
So today a controversial bill widely known
as the fake news law officially went into effect
in Singapore.
Now the law, which is officially called the protection
from online falsehoods and manipulation act was passed by Singapore's parliament back in May.
And according to reports, it will now be illegal
to spread what they call any false statements of fact
that could potentially pose a threat to public tranquility
and the friendly relations of Singapore
with other countries, right?
So the idea sounds pretty straightforward,
but, and it is a big but,
what makes the law extremely controversial
is the fact that it gives the sole power
to determine what is and is not fake news
to government ministers. And the threshold
for determining what is fake news is rather low. And according to Channel News Asia, a minister simply needs to decide if something is a
falsehood which is defined as a statement of fact that is false or misleading. Then if that minister says it is in the public interest
to take action against the falsehood, they can order whatever content they decide is fake news to be taken down or have a correction put up next to it.
Government ministers can also force tech companies like Facebook and Google to block accounts or websites that they decide is fake news to be taken down or have a correction put up next to it. Government ministers can also force tech companies
like Facebook and Google to block accounts or websites
that they say are spreading false information.
And while the government has said that anyone impacted
by the law can file an appeal,
and that appeals process will be quick and cheap,
the consequences of being found guilty
of posting false information are extremely high.
Under the law, companies that are found guilty
of spreading fake news can face fines
up to one million in Singapore dollars,
which comes to around 722,000 in US dollars. And for individuals who are found guilty of spreading fake news can face fines up to 1 million in Singapore dollars, which comes to around 722,000 in US dollars.
And for individuals who are found guilty,
you can face up to 10 years in prison.
With Singapore's prime minister saying
that the law is necessary to quote,
"'Hold online news sources and platforms accountable
"'if they proliferate deliberate online falsehood.'"
Adding, if we do not protect ourselves,
hostile parties will find it a simple matter
to turn different groups against one another
and cause disorder in our society.
But with this, critics of the law have said
that this is a clear attempt to stifle free speech
and dissent, with many arguing that it gives way too much
power and authority to the government without providing
oversight for government abuse.
And to that point, opponents have pointed to Singapore's
mixed record on protecting press freedoms
and political dissent.
For example, in the 2019 World Press Freedom Index,
Reporters Without Borders ranked Singapore 151st
out of 180 countries for press freedoms.
Right, meaning Singapore was ranked
in one of the worst positions for a country
that considers itself a democracy.
And notably, it placed them below countries
that are well-known for censoring
any kind of political opposition,
like Russia and Myanmar.
And so the activists, experts, and rights groups
who have openly criticized this law
worry that it will be used as a political tool for censorship.
Speaking to CNN, Human Rights Watch Asia Deputy Director Phil Robertson
said that the bill will be used for political purposes. Also noting the timing that it's coming right before elections are set to happen in
just a few months. And adding, the Singapore government has a long history of calling everything they disagree with as false and misleading.
We also had the International Commission of Jurists, a group of judges and lawyers, hitting on this in a statement before the law was passed,
arguing that it would create a real risk that the law will be misused
to clamp down on opinions or information critical of the government.
You even had members of parliament speaking out against the bill,
arguing that it was an overextension of government power, with one opposition
lawmaker saying,
To introduce such a bill is not what the government claims,
to defend democracy and public interest.
It is more like the actions of a dictatorial government
that will resort to any means to hold on to absolute power.
We also have others arguing that it will give Singapore
too much power over big tech firms
that have a large presence in Singapore,
in places like Facebook, Twitter, and Google,
which all have their Asian headquarters in the city-state.
And to that point, Amnesty International's
Regional Director for East and Southeast Asia
said in a statement,
this law would give Singapore overwhelming leverage
over the likes of Facebook and Twitter
to remove whatever the government determines is misleading.
This is an alarming scenario.
While tech firms must take all steps to make digital spaces
safe for everyone, this does not provide governments an
excuse to interfere with freedom of expression or rule over
the newsfeed, which is why it's also not surprising that
Google and Facebook have both opposed this law.
Although a thing to note here is that one of the most
concerning parts of this law to some is that it doesn't
appear to just apply to posts made publicly on Facebook or
Twitter, but rather it could actually be applied to closed private messaging apps and chat groups like
WhatsApp, which is extremely popular in Singapore. So there's concern that not only will the
government read citizens' private messages, but they could also potentially jail them for up to
10 years for what they say. But ultimately, that is where we are with this now. And I wanted to
share this story because, yes, I know that 99.7% of people watching this video, they're not from
Singapore. But I think it's incredibly helpful to look outward, especially at a time where, you know,
people are constantly talking about the threat of fake news.
We've seen the impact.
There's a constant conversation of,
well, how do you crack down on it
while not cracking down on free speech?
Right, who's deciding what is real or not?
Is this situation going to be manipulated
so governments can control their people
and stifle free speech?
I personally believe that is what we are seeing in Singapore,
but ultimately that's where we are with this story now. We'll have to wait to see what happens,
but of course, I'd love to know your thoughts on this. And that's where I'm going to end today's
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