The Philip DeFranco Show - PDS 10.22 The PewDiePie "Shadowban" Situation, RIP Quibi, Iran Russia Election Interference, &
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Sup you beautiful bastards.
Hope you had a fantastic Thursday.
Welcome back to the Philip DeFranco Show.
Buckle up, hit that like button and let's just jump into it.
And the first thing that we're gonna talk about today
in news that I don't think anyone saw coming,
the juggernaut, the behemoth, that is Quibi,
is shutting down just over six months after they launched.
Now, if you're unfamiliar with Quibi
or I'm the reason you know about it,
yeah, that's part of the reason why it's ending.
A lot of people didn't know about it
and a lot of people weren't using it.
Now for those unfamiliar,
and it also kind of touches on why this is such a big failure,
Quibi is slash was a short form video streaming service
that raised around $1.75 billion in funding
from big players and investors like Disney,
NBC Universal, Warner Media, and more.
The videos and episodes on Quibi
are all around 10 minutes or less.
They also, and I don't know if they leaned into this
because they had special technology
where the framing would change when you turn your phone,
but they also made Quibi exclusive
to mobile devices at launch.
But it wasn't actually until just this last Tuesday
that they launched apps for Android TV,
Apple TV, and Fire TV.
Also, while there was no free plan or free version of Quibi,
they did have a 90-day free trial.
While we did see Quibi go after some digital talent
like Liza Koshy, they primarily spent their money
on huge, huge traditional stars.
People like Chrissy Teigen, Idris Elba,
LeBron James, Kevin Hart, Jennifer Lopez.
And personally, and I've talked about this
on previous videos, I think a big part of their failure,
yes, was their marketing campaign.
Also, either their ignorance or just their unwillingness
to incorporate more digital talent.
And there are a number of key players and content creators
that fully understand the ecosystem and more importantly,
can actually move people to a different platform.
One of the most obvious, most notable
are people like MrBeast.
The guy got over a million people
to download an app to their phone.
And it's just a game where you keep your finger on it.
Over a million people played and how many people
watched individual streams and were keeping up
on social media, it became an event.
And you know, I really think Quibi could have been
kind of the anti Netflix because you know,
Netflix doesn't offer a lot of stuff
to online digital creators.
And actually on that note, I mean,
Quibi didn't even go with the Netflix route,
which I will say is hard.
I mean, when Netflix, I think truly became
the Netflix we know today,
it was thanks to House of Cards.
I think they spent like around $100 million
on that first season, and all of a sudden it was like,
Oh wow, something this premium can exist here.
And Quibi really didn't get anything close to that.
I mean, they had Most Dangerous Game,
but that, no offense to Christoph Waltz
and Liam Hemsworth, wasn't the best.
But, you know, with this Quibi news,
yesterday we saw an open letter from founder and CEO,
Jeffrey Katzenberg and Meg Whitman,
writing that despite employee dedication
and support from investors, Quibi is not succeeding,
likely for one of two reasons,
because the idea itself wasn't strong enough
to justify a standalone streaming service
or because of our timing.
Unfortunately, we will never know,
but we suspect it's been a combination of the two.
The circumstances of launching during a pandemic
is something we could have never imagined, but we suspect it's been a combination of the two. The circumstances of launching during a pandemic is something we could have never imagined,
but other businesses have faced
these unprecedented challenges
and have found their way through it.
We were not able to do so."
Which may make that the most depressing open letter
to investors and employees I've ever read.
They provided an excuse, the pandemic,
and then in that same sentence, argued the counterpoint.
But other people have been able to get through it,
so I guess we suck.
Also, I think both of the reasons provided
don't make any sense.
You launched a new entertainment delivery system ecosystem
when people aren't able to go out as much,
meaning that people more than ever need entertainment
from their phone, their whatever device at their house.
And two, you were offering all of that essentially for free
for three months.
This feels like an unwillingness to acknowledge
the failure that existed at the top level.
How many months after launch did people still have no idea
what Quibi was?
Why would you lean into something
that was obviously not working,
remain rigid in an evolving landscape instead of pivoting,
trying something new, being more accessible faster?
Now, as far as what's next, according to reports,
Quibi will be returning $350 million
of the 1.75 billion raised,
with the company also said to be looking to sell
its content and technology assets.
Also, this isn't gonna be the last you hear about Quibi
in the news, in part because they were accused
of stealing technology and other trade secrets
from a company named Echo,
with Echo also promising to continue their legal efforts
against Quibi.
But ultimately, that is where we are.
Quibi gets to be yet another example on the internet
that you can have all the money in the world
and it doesn't matter if you don't implement
a plan properly.
But yeah, with that said, maybe I guess to end
on a positive note, thank you to Quibi
for actually giving us some more Reno 911,
which will hopefully be bought up by another service
in the near future, as well as two weird stuff,
like a whole series about Anna Kendrick
becoming a friend with a sex doll.
But yeah, I guess that's the end of this piece
where I mock incredibly wealthy, powerful gatekeepers,
who, if they already weren't starting conversations with me,
never will now.
But also, who needs that
when I got this batch of beautiful bastards?
Then in, if this is true,
a portion of the internet's about to revolt news,
today we began seeing people claim
that YouTube has shadow banned
the biggest individual YouTuber in the world, PewDiePie.
Felix, if you don't know,
on any video that he releases several times a week,
could get between five to 10 million views.
But today, what we're seeing,
just a little over two hours after his last upload,
just over 61,000 views, 8,600 likes.
Felix also putting out a community post writing,
"'Yo, for some reason my videos aren't showing up
"'in sub box since yesterday, so posting here.'"
Also, when I go to YouTube and I type out his name,
his channel icon does not appear.
Like if you do that for pretty much almost any other creator.
Sad what you get are a number of videos.
Yes, some from PewDiePie's channel,
but also other people's channels.
But if you type another person's name into the search bar,
I wrote in Philip DeFranco.
Right at the top, you see my channel,
my videos are underneath.
There's even a playlist to the right.
And with all of this, I've reached out to contacts
at YouTube with one responding saying,
"'We do not shadow ban people,
"'but we are looking into reports regarding his channel.'"
Yeah, I mean, for now, that is where this story ends.
This is gonna be something that we keep an eye on.
At worst, it is some sort of crackdown
that should be very concerning for a lot of people.
Or, on the lightest end, and I'm inclined to think
that this is the answer,
because I don't think they would go after Felix like this,
especially because in addition to him being a massive
creator, he has a massive YouTube live streaming deal
with YouTube.
And so I think it's far more likely that something
with his channel and maybe the videos are bugged right now. It sucks. It happens. I'm surprised it's happening with one
of the biggest creators in the world and that it wasn't fixed like that. But for now, we have to
wait and see. Also, and I'm going to kind of start this story off with my opinion. We saw a creative
director at Google Stadia jumping up in the news today. This because Alex Hutchinson seemingly was
commenting on what's happening over on Twitch right now. People are getting a ton of their content removed
because there was music in it.
And Alex wrote,
streamers worried about getting their content pulled
because they use music they didn't pay for
should be more worried by the fact
that they're streaming games they didn't pay for as well.
It's all gone as soon as publishers decide to enforce it.
The real truth is the streamers should be paying
the developers and publishers of the games they stream.
They should be buying a license like any real business
and paying for the content they use.
To which most of the internet responded
and I will join in with them,
shut the fuck up, bro.
While they very likely will not respond publicly,
I do wonder what the people at YouTube Gaming
think about this horrendous take.
Streaming has changed the market.
Streaming has changed the ecosystem.
I mean, just among the plethora of reasons
this is a bad idea, you wanna kill the indie market?
Boom, congratulations.
Even fucking Nintendo, I don't know why I'm so randomly
passionate about this right now.
Even Nintendo dropped their,
"'Hey, look at us, we're douchebags' creator program."
Right, so I think a big part of this
kind of comes down to two things.
One, why you would decide to kind of talk down to streamers
and think that's a great idea, okay.
Like that's ever worked out for fucking anybody before.
And two, you're saying should,
when really the word should be could.
Because yes, Nintendo or anyone creating these games
could go after creators.
But it is a genuinely understood,
and I thought seemingly before this,
a solidified understanding that the relationship
between the people making and releasing these games
and the creators that are streaming it
and creating videos on demand, that it's symbiotic.
YouTube has one of the most powerful DMCA tools
in the world, but in general,
you don't see developers using those tools for a reason.
And it kind of boggles my mind that someone
in such a key position doesn't fully grasp this.
But also, hey, that's a story, my personal opinion on it.
And of course, now I pass the question off to you.
What are your thoughts here?
And then let's talk about
this absolutely massive election news.
Right, because yesterday we saw top security officials
providing the first concrete evidence
that foreign adversaries are trying to interfere
in this election cycle.
And this huge announcement was made
by the director of national intelligence, John Ratcliffe in a last minute press conference.
We have confirmed that some voter registration information
has been obtained by Iran and separately by Russia.
This data can be used by foreign actors
to attempt to communicate false information
to registered voters that they hope will cause confusion, sow chaos,
and undermine your confidence in American democracy.
With this news notably coming just one day after
it was reported that registered Democrats
in four different states, including three hotly
contested swing states, were sent threatening emails
as part of an effort to do exactly what Ratcliffe described.
And according to reports, those emails came from an address
that appeared to be affiliated with the far right group, the Proud Boys, with the subject line being,
"'Vote for Trump or else.'"
With the body of that email saying,
"'We are in possession of all your information,
"'email, address, telephone, everything.'"
The sender then going on to claim that they know
the recipient of the email is a Democrat
because they gained access
into the entire voting infrastructure and added,
"'You will vote for Trump on election day
"'or we will come after you.
"'Change your party affiliation to Republican
"'to let us know you received our message and will comply.
We will know which candidate you voted for.
I would take this seriously if I were you."
With multiple outlets reporting that the emails they saw
also included the home address of the recipients
that they were sent to.
And while it is unclear how many were sent out,
it does appear that most of them were sent to people
in Florida and Alaska,
with officials in both states also announcing
that they have launched investigations
and that the FBI was looking into the matter as well.
Now, as far as how this email came from a domain
associated with the Proud Boys,
you had the group's chairman immediately denying
that they had any involvement saying,
"'We don't send emails.
This is someone spoofing our emails and website.
We've spoken with the FBI and are working with them.
I hope whoever did this is arrested
for voter intimidation
and for maliciously impersonating our group.'"
With him also telling reporters that the group
has been in the process of migrating
from officialproudboys.com to another site and that that one has not been used
for weeks.
And this because that domain was recently dropped
by a hosting company that uses Google Cloud services
after concerns were raised about the group.
And very notably here, according to the Washington Post,
when the hosting service dropped the domain,
it appeared to be just left unsecured and thus,
allowed anyone on the internet to take control of it
and use it to send out the menacing messages.
But beyond that, numerous outlets that reviewed the emails
also said they came from foreign internet servers.
And while experts do note that the IP addresses
do not mean that the senders were actually based
in those countries because they could have routed
those emails from almost anywhere,
some cybersecurity experts pointed to the possibility
of foreign interference.
Which brought us to yesterday's announcement
where Ratcliffe seemed to confirm those suspicions,
claiming that Iran was behind a series of fraudulent emails.
And while he didn't describe the emails
beyond saying that they had been in the news
over the last 24 hours,
other officials confirmed to the media
that they included the threatening messages.
Now, notably, despite the claims in those emails,
both Ratcliffe and FBI Director Christopher Wray,
who also spoke at the press conference,
did not indicate that either foreign country
had actually hacked into our election infrastructure
or voter registration systems,
nor did they say that any election results
or voter registration information had been changed.
In fact, intelligence officials who spoke to reporters
said that the data they claimed both Iran and Russia
had obtained was largely public, right?
The names, party affiliation, some basic contact info
of registered voters are things
that are publicly available.
So what they mean here, in other words,
is rather than physically hacking into key infrastructure
to try and sway the election,
these officials are alleging that Russia and Iran
are instead attempting to do so by intimidating voters,
sowing chaos and creating uncertainty.
And actually, regarding that,
Ratcliffe made some very specific claims
during the press conference.
To that end, we have already seen Iran
sending spoofed emails designed to intimidate voters,
incite social unrest, and damage President Trump.
Additionally, Iran is distributing other content to include a video that implies that individuals
could cast fraudulent ballots, even from overseas.
Although we have not seen the same actions from Russia, we are aware that they have obtained
some voter information just as they did in 2016.
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Now, as we talked about earlier this week, many Democrats and former intelligence officials have
accused Ratcliffe, who was supposed to be apolitical in his role of DNI,
of being a Trump loyalist who uses his position
to promote Trump's political agenda.
And those allegations become very concerning
when it comes to foreign interference in the election
for two reasons.
The first is the fact that he has actively spread
information that the intelligence community
has deemed to be false regarding Russian interference
in the 2016 election.
That is on top of promoting debunked conspiracies
about the following investigation.
And the second is that he has explicitly been accused
of selectively declassifying intel pertaining
to election interference to help the Trump campaign.
In fact, just earlier this month,
many former top officials condemned him for doing just that
when he released intel about Hillary Clinton's 2016 campaign.
Intel that was not only unverified,
but that intelligence experts also said
could be Russian disinformation.
And so that's why with this announcement,
we saw a lot of people saying that the announcement
was another example of that.
It just didn't make sense.
With many specifically pointing to his claims
that Iran sent the emails to damage President Trump.
And understand, it is true that for a few months now,
intelligence officials have said
that Iran opposes Trump's reelection,
but Ratcliffe provided no evidence for the claim
that Iran was trying to explicitly hurt Trump here,
with many others saying that the evidence that we have now,
it seems to indicate that they were just trying
to cause general chaos.
While some did argue Ratcliffe's point
that it was an attempt to make the Proud Boys
and Trump look bad,
it was also still clearly an attempt
to dissuade Democrat voters from either voting blue
or going to the polls entirely.
With people like a manager
for a Democratic state house candidate in Florida saying,
"'When you have people who have a voter role
"'and then send off emails, they will make a big splash.
"'They will scare people.
That is without a doubt the intent.
Right, and that's something to consider,
especially when we're talking about a battleground state,
something that is highly contested like Florida.
Right, and to that point, regarding intent,
you have others also pointing to the video
that Ratcliffe said Iran sent voters with disinformation
about fraudulent ballots.
With a post which actually reviewed the video in question
saying that it showed Trump making disparaging comments
about mail-in voting, followed by a logo
with the name of the Proud Boys.
This before documenting what is supposed to appear
as a hack of voting data in an effort
to produce a fraudulent ballot.
Right, and again, while some have argued
that this was meant to make Trump look bad,
others have pushed back on that by saying
that it only does so by using things
that Donald Trump has literally said
to sow doubt about mail-in ballots
and undermine confidence in these systems.
And that general idea about undermining confidence
is also another reason used to dispute Ratcliffe's claim
that this was meant to hurt Trump.
This is a man who has spent months trying
to undermine the election results
so that he can question them if he loses.
And that's why so many people agree
that these alleged attempts are clearly just Iran
or other players trying to play off the distrust
and discord that he has already created.
And that is something that we saw numerous officials
backing up, including the likes of Chuck Schumer,
who said that based on a classified briefing
that he received,
I had the strong impression that it was much rather
to undermine confidence in elections
and not aimed at any particular figure.
And I'm surprised that DNI Ratcliffe said that
at his press conference if he did.
And that is also something that we saw
the official Twitter account
for the House Homeland Security Committee hitting on.
Directly contradicting Ratcliffe's claims
and calling his credibility into question.
Tweeting, these election interference operations
are clearly not meant to harm President Trump.
Ratcliffe has too often politicized the intelligence
community to carry water for the president.
And adding that while the threat
of foreign interference was real,
you can't emphasize one threat over another
to suit the president's ego.
And actually regarding that last point,
many people also accused Ratcliffe
of playing down Russia's role in election interference.
Right, Ratcliffe mostly focusing on Iran
and claiming that while Russia had the same information,
they were not using it the same way.
But multiple US officials who spoke anonymously
to the post stressed that Russia still remained
the major threat to the 2020 election.
And that's also why you have people arguing
that Ratcliffe should not be trusted here
because he's not only downplayed Russian interference
in the past, but he's also spread
outright misinformation about it.
And actually notably there, we did see Schumer
as well as Marco Rubio releasing a joint statement
urging officials to release more information
about the threat.
But officials so far have refused saying
that they can't share too much information with the public.
So that's pretty much all we know about it right now.
And as far as their part, both Iran and Russia
have disputed the claims that they are interfering
in the US election.
An Iranian foreign ministry spokesperson saying,
"'The country strongly rejects American officials'
"'repetitive, baseless, and false claim.'"
A spokesperson for the Kremlin making a similar statement
saying, "'The accusations are poured out every day.
"'They are all absolutely groundless.
"'They are not based on anything.
"'Rather, it is a tribute to the internal political processes
"'associated with the upcoming election.'"
You know, with all that said,
I think maybe where it makes sense to end this story
is actually with something
from FBI Director Christopher Wray,
especially considering the nonstop fire hose
of misleading claims and outright lies
from President Trump and his administration
about the validity of the vote and mail-in ballots.
We've been working for years as a community
to build resilience in our election infrastructure,
and today, that infrastructure remains resilient.
You should be confident that your vote counts.
Early, unverified claims to the contrary should be viewed with a healthy dose of skepticism.
And that may also be part of the reason we're starting to see reports that
Trump and his people around him are thinking of possibly firing the FBI director
after the election.
Yeah, with this story, of course,
I then pass the question off to you.
What are your thoughts on the story in general?
What are your thoughts on Ratcliffe's
kind of narrative and framing?
Or do you see him as a Trump loyalist
who's kind of trying to craft wins for the president or no?
And that is where I'm going to end today's show.
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