The Philip DeFranco Show - PDS 10.23 Disgusting RyanAir Controversy, Why Drake's HUGE Digital Dive Matters & Measles Outbreak

Episode Date: October 23, 2018

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Sup you beautiful bastards hope you're having a fantastic Tuesday Welcome back to the Philip DeFranco show and a quick note before we jump into it this morning as promised on this channel I uploaded an extra morning news video. It is the first of the three bonus morning videos You're getting today tomorrow and then Thursday. So after today's show, I highly recommend you watch it It's about a really important thing and it'll be one of the top links in the description down below But with that said let's just jump into it And the first thing we're gonna talk about today is this story that takes place on a Ryanair flight. So you know it's not like, and it was great.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Everything went fantastically. But that said, I'll set the scene for you. It's a Ryanair flight that's meant to go from Barcelona to London. Reportedly, you had 77-year-old Delcy Gale. She boarded the plane early because she required a wheelchair and took an aisle seat. And according to Gale, when the man that was meant
Starting point is 00:00:40 to take the window seat in her row approached her, he began to yell after she didn't get up fast enough. And according to David Lawrence, who was the bystander that recorded the video we're about to watch, he heard the man shouting, you're in my way, get out, I don't want you here next to me.
Starting point is 00:00:51 By the time he started filming, a Ryanair flight attendant was already trying to intervene. He also had Gail's daughter, Carol, trying to step in to defend her mother. Lawrence recalling her saying, who are you talking to? Don't shout at her, that's my mother, she's disabled. And that then brings us to the video,
Starting point is 00:01:03 which if you wanna see the full version, I'll link to it down below, but we're gonna kinda do a highlight cut to talk about the main point. Don't you dare shout at her! Don't you dare shout at her! Don't tell me what to do. If I tell her to get out, she gets out.
Starting point is 00:01:16 I'll tell you, I hope somebody sits there, because I don't wanna sit next to you 60 times. You're ugly, fuck you, I hate you. The flight attendant then asks Gail if she would like to move to another seat, but she says she's fine for now, to which the man says. Put her to another seat. You're sounding completely wrong at this point.
Starting point is 00:01:34 I can't get him to move to another seat. The man then threatens Gail. I'm telling you this, if you don't go to another seat, I'll push you to another seat. The man behind them asks the gray-haired man to stop and then it just continues to escalate. Wait, will you stop? I will carry on.
Starting point is 00:01:51 I will have no more time with this ugly bastard. Then the man from the row behind gives advice that I think is good for the gray-haired man, but also good for people in general. Stop. There's no need for that at all. Just stop. It's really easy.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Just shut your mouth. You then see the flight attendant return, saying that the man's being super rude. Lawrence, who is the guy filming, says throw him off. You see the flight attendant saying that he needs to get his supervisor. But ultimately what ends up actually happening is Gail decides to switch her seat
Starting point is 00:02:17 to a seat that's closer to her daughter, and the flight takes off with the man getting an entire row to himself. Now after this incident, the video is posted to Facebook. It gets over 73,000 shares. The original video by itself has over 6.7 million views. And so incredibly fast, you have a ton of people who start speaking out against Ryanair's lack of punishment
Starting point is 00:02:33 against the man for his behavior. And this including people saying they'll never fly Ryanair ever again. Also specifically, Lawrence, the man who took the video, has been critical of Ryanair, saying of their actions, it's not good enough. It certainly falls so short of what we expect an airline to provide for in terms of protecting their customers. of their actions, it's not good enough. It certainly falls so short of what we expect an airline to provide for in terms of protecting their customers.
Starting point is 00:02:47 It's shameful, it's shameful. Gale's daughter also criticizing the airline, saying of the man, he should have been moved or taken off the plane and nothing was done. Nobody has apologized, we've not had nothing. We just want an open apology from Ryanair. Also to help us paint an image of what maybe happened before the video,
Starting point is 00:03:01 we had Gale describing moments before the recording started. He said to me, can you get up and let me come in? So I say, in a minute. He said to me, when I say get up, I mean you ought to get up. So I did get up. And when I get up, he pined his hand in my face and said, I say you ought to get up. When I say get up, I get up, get up.
Starting point is 00:03:26 So I said to him, don't pine your hand in my face. He said, I do what I want to do. Also going on to describe how she feels depressed because of this incident. I feel very low. He paid his fare to go on holiday. I pay mine. So why would he abuse me for that? Choose the color of my skin. I feel really, really depressed about it. I go to my bed and say, what have I done? I haven't done
Starting point is 00:03:56 anything. Ryanair has released multiple statements on this incident. In one, they say they passed information over to Essex police, adding, as this is now a police matter, we cannot comment further. They also separately told the BBC, we operate strict guidelines for disruptive passengers and we will not tolerate unruly behavior like this and adding we will Be taking this matter further and disruptive or abusive behavior like this will result in passengers being banned from travel and also one of the most Recent updates to this story is that the Essex police have said we've worked to identify both parties involved in this incident and pass this Information to the Spanish authorities who are leading on this investigation And according to Gail it's expected that she's going to be contacted by authorities to give a statement later this week And here's what I'll say as far as my takeaway from this story regarding Ryanair as a company and their employees not really doing
Starting point is 00:04:35 Anything until after the fact I've seen people point out that Ryanair is a budget airline part of the way They're able to operate is they have an extremely tight schedule So it is in their best interest to not escalate situations Right and so with that, any kind of disruption that throws things off could cost the airline thousands of dollars, that de-incentivizes staff from escalating issues. But to that argument, I would say,
Starting point is 00:04:52 I think that's incredibly short-sighted. In a day and age where it is almost 100% guaranteed that in any situation, any single person could whip out a phone, a video camera, and record or live stream what is happening, doing the right thing, handling the situation that is right in front of you is in your best interest. Every single thing becomes potentially devastating
Starting point is 00:05:11 to your business. So in my opinion, kicking this man off the plane, it's not just a moral good, it is a business good. Losing whatever you might lose if the plane was late is nothing compared to what can happen PR wise. And I think part of my reaction to this story is just extended general frustration. The potential continued success
Starting point is 00:05:27 of another ignorant, loud asshole. This man was disgusting and horrible to this woman and his punishment, a whole aisle to himself on an airplane. Without someone documenting it to say, hey, look at this horrible person doing these horrible things and not being held accountable, we wouldn't have any accountability. And who even really knows
Starting point is 00:05:44 what happens from this investigation? And as far as if this does end up actually having a damaging effect on Ryanair, that will be interesting to see. With it being a budget airline, and so probably not people's quality choice, it's mainly like the greyhound of the sky.
Starting point is 00:05:57 I don't know how much moments like this affect people purchasing tickets for Ryanair. We'll have to wait and see. And ultimately, I pass the question off to you. What is your takeaway from this? What do you think should or shouldn't happen to the man as far as Ryanair is concerned? What do you think about their actions?
Starting point is 00:06:09 Any and all thoughts on this story, I'd love to see in those comments down below. Then in industry entertainment news, we had kind of just two pieces of interesting good news. The first being that last night was the Streamy Awards. So some of the category winners we saw, you had Ninja winning gaming, James Charles winning beauty,
Starting point is 00:06:22 Hot Ones winning nonfiction series, Liza on Demand winning comedy series, David Dobrik winning first person, Emma Chamberlain winning breakout creator. And for the top two awards of the night, the audience choice where the audience voted. For show of the year, you had the Try Guys who were also hosts of the show. And then for creator of the year, surprising nobody, Shane Dawson won. And I say unsurprisingly, not only because obviously his docu-series have just been crushing it with views, but really every year or half a year, we have a creator or a group of creators
Starting point is 00:06:50 that kind of up the game. I think Shane Dawson is the most recent and he's redefined kind of homegrown storytelling on the platform. And in my mind, I put him in line with how Casey Neistat changed the vlog scene when he started up the daily vlog. Whether it be the editing style or the fact that people upgraded their equipment to DSLRs for their cameras,
Starting point is 00:07:07 which vlogs weren't really taken seriously by a ton of people at that time. The inclusion of drones, whether it just be a main piece of content or something to set up a scene. Also in the middle of that, you have people like Ninja just upping the game when it comes to the gaming space.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Right, what it means for a creator to kind of transcend the label that was previously boxing them in. And so I just love seeing all of this. Although I will say the idea of an internet award show, that is so incredibly hard. Because while there are so many fantastic people who won and so many fantastic people who are nominated,
Starting point is 00:07:33 there are so many fantastic, huge creators that aren't even nominated. Like there are just so many pockets of the internet and pocket sounds like a very minimizing word. But what I mean is there's just all these bubbles and some of these bubbles are massive. If you scroll through the site long enough, you're gonna find people getting one to 12 million views
Starting point is 00:07:50 you've never heard of before. The main point, it's always a good day if we get to kind of just celebrate internet video and creation and it's not just a bad shitty thing that happened in the space. Which actually on the note of other awesome industry news, Nadeshot, who if you don't know is an OG YouTuber, he's a former professional gamer. Well, he's in the news and maybe you saw the Forbes headline because Drake and Scooter Braun invest in eSports company
Starting point is 00:08:11 100 Thieves. That being Nadeshot's company and according to the report they are becoming co-owners. The thing is this move isn't really just coming out of nowhere. This is just the latest thing to further legitimize what's happening. In late 2017, you had Dan Gilbert, the owner of Quicken Loans and the Cleveland Cavaliers, putting millions of dollars into this company. And in fact, according to Forbes, 100 Thieves has received $25 million in funding. And with that, they say that the new influx of capital
Starting point is 00:08:34 will go towards building out its content team, acquiring new talent, and continuing to expand its apparel line. Even before this announcement was made, there were high profile additions to the organization being made. And seeing this, even though I have no involvement over there, I just get so pumped about it.
Starting point is 00:08:47 I think it's incredibly important to note, having a name like Drake associated and invested is huge. I mean, there's a reason why it was such a massive pop culture moment when you had Drake streaming with Ninja. Right, it's attention, respect, time from the mainstream and a notable person from the mainstream. And with this move here, we see not only is it time, not only is it respect, it's money.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Money matters, not only in that money will allow you to move levers and allow you to do other things that you wouldn't be able to do without it, but also the transaction of money, investment that shows belief. Belief in growth, belief in success. Ultimately, I just hope that the people
Starting point is 00:09:20 that are investing in this company, they are doing so to enable Nadeshot and the people that he's put around him, rather than a situation where we've sometimes seen, you know, acquisitions or investment leading to kind of a derailment of the initial goal. Personally, I hope and I think that this is gonna all be fantastic.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Also, if you're interested in this space, connected to this announcement, Nade put out a piece kind of describing his journey, and I recommend checking it out. It's good, it's relatable or inspirational. But with that said, that's my personal guess, it's my personal opinion, and I recommend checking it out. It's good, it's relatable, or inspirational. But with that said, that's my personal guess, it's my personal opinion, and I pass the question off to you.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Do you think that it is a good thing? Why, why not? Also, to kick it back to the internet award show, let's have our own right now, the Phillies. What internet show and what internet creator are your favorite right now? And I'm not in the running, I'm not looking for my ego to be stroked.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Who are your favorites right now and why? And then let's talk about one of the sexiest stories today, and that is, ooh, get ready, measles. And to talk about this properly, we kind of have to jump around a bit. Today we saw the European Commission releasing a new report about attitudes towards vaccines. But to talk about that report,
Starting point is 00:10:14 we first have to talk about a different report from earlier this year. And the reason for that is in the earlier report, it talks about how widespread measles has become in Europe throughout the first half of 2018. And if you're unfamiliar with what exactly measles is, yeah, that's because it's become virtually non-existent in many places.
Starting point is 00:10:27 But somewhere on the same page is an infection that most people recover from in seven to 10 days, but it can also cause serious complications. Things like brain swelling or infection, meningitis, convulsions, pneumonia, hepatitis, and because it's so contagious, and because you can have so many potential complications, it can even kill you.
Starting point is 00:10:41 But on the other hand, if you're immunized, you aren't at risk. So this first report comes back in August from the World Health Organization, and they state that in the first six months of 2018, more than 41,000 adults and children in the European region had been infected with measles. And these numbers coming from a six month period
Starting point is 00:10:55 are almost double that of the whole for 2017. The whole of 2017 coming in at just under 24,000. And reportedly as a result of this spread, 37 people died through the first six months of 2018. And as far as the places with the most infections you had France, Georgia, Greece, Italy, Russia, Serbia, Ukraine each with over a thousand infections. And as far as standouts I mean Ukraine specifically you saw more than 23,000 people affected and in Serbia you saw 14 of the 37 deaths.
Starting point is 00:11:18 But here's the thing at the top level these numbers are confusing and the reason I say that is that the report also says that the overall immunization coverage in Europe has increased from 88% to 90% of eligible children from 2016 to 2017. But when we look closer, that's where we see the issues. There are big gaps in coverage at a local level. Some places have more than 95% immunization, where others are below 70%.
Starting point is 00:11:38 And that is massively important because to prevent an outbreak, the World Health Organization says that at least 95% of the population needs to have received at least two doses of the meas needs to have received at least two doses of the measles vaccine. So the question becomes, well, why are people not being vaccinated?
Starting point is 00:11:49 And according to that European report released today, it's because of a major lack of confidence in vaccine safety. Now, some countries have become more confident in the safety since 2015, like France, Greece, Italy, and Slovenia, but others, less so. And those countries include the Czech Republic,
Starting point is 00:12:02 Finland, Poland, and Sweden. And in fact, since 2010, measles immunizations have dropped in 12 EU countries. And as countries include the Czech Republic, Finland, Poland, and Sweden. And in fact, since 2010, measles immunizations have dropped in 12 EU countries. As far as what should happen, you had the author of the report, Heidi Larsson, saying that governments need to work to boost vaccine awareness and confidence. And also of note here is that Larsson
Starting point is 00:12:14 also runs the Vaccine Confidence Project, where they study attitudes towards vaccines. They sort through news, social media, they survey attitudes, they even developed a Vaccine Confidence Index, which as you could probably guess is kind of like a consumer confidence index to see how people feel about vaccines though. And just a week ago, she wrote for the science journal,
Starting point is 00:12:28 Nature explaining some of the report that was released today. And there she said, I predict that the next major outbreak, whether of a highly fatal strain of influenza or something else will not be due to a lack of preventive technologies. Instead, emotional contagion digitally enabled
Starting point is 00:12:40 could erode trust in vaccines so much as to render them moot. And saying that conflicting information, misinformation and manipulated information on social media should be recognized as a global public health threat. And Larson hits on four major ways that misinformation spreads. One, people with medical credentials
Starting point is 00:12:54 exaggerating bad science or overblown fears. For example, in 1998, Andrew Wakefield published an article alleging a link between autism and the MMR vaccine, which protects against measles, mumps and rubella. But in the World Health Organization has this on their site now. They say that it was later found to be seriously flawed and fraudulent.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Also, Wakefield's license was revoked, his work retracted, but still, even after all of that, he campaigns against the vaccine to this day. Then two, she points out financial opportunity, this being people who sell books, services, or products about anti-vaccination. Wakefield, for example, has given paid testimony against the MMR vaccine.
Starting point is 00:13:23 Then three, political opportunity, people trying to polarize society over this issue. For example, there were reports this year indicating that Russian trolls and bots were using emotional language to spread misinformation about vaccines. And then four, so-called super spreaders. This being just people on social media sharing unfounded claims. And a common one here are suspected adverse reactions to vaccines being touted as confirmed reactions, even though they're often coincidences. And in fact, there was this news report from just a couple of days before this vaccine confidence report came out, showing just how damaging the lack of vaccination is from a doctor's point of view.
Starting point is 00:13:51 You have the president of the Italian Pediatric Society, Alberto Viani, saying about measles, "'People are dying from measles. "'This was unbelievable five or 10 years ago.'" You have Jeffrey Klausner, professor of medicine and public health at UCLA, explaining that people don't understand the danger of diseases anymore.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Saying people don't see them and so they forget about them or they think the diseases don't exist anymore. They don't realize their child is at risk for measles, meningitis, encephalitis, and permanent brain damage. And for my US viewers maybe getting a little judgy right now it's not just an over there situation. You had Dr. Peter Hotez, director of the Texas Children's Hospital Center
Starting point is 00:14:20 for Vaccine Development saying, "'What has been happening in Europe is now happening "'in the US on a smaller scale at this point.'" Adding, "'There's an element of the anti-vaccine movement "'that is peddling alternative therapies "'and making money off of phony treatments.'" And adding, "'There's an element that have tied themselves "'to different political groups.
Starting point is 00:14:34 "'In Texas, the major anti-vaccine lobby "'likes to use libertarian garbage terms "'like medical freedom or medical choice.'" And hitting on that kind of previous note of out of sight, out of mind, he said, "'People forget that before kids were getting vaccinated, we had between 400 and 700 deaths from measles annually in the United States. And so of course, the big question with this is, well, what do you do to combat the misinformation? And what do you do to raise trust in vaccinations?
Starting point is 00:14:55 And ultimately, so far, the answer has been to just talk about it. And you just have to make peace that you're not going to be able to convince everyone. You just have all the research in the world, a stack of just study after study after study, and someone will hold up a single thing and say, "'Well, what about this? This is equal to all of that.'" And so you have to make peace with that, but also understand that is not everyone.
Starting point is 00:15:12 And so we look to countries like Denmark and Ireland as far as what they've done when they've seen massive drops in vaccination. In Denmark, for example, they saw an immense drop in vaccination rates. And so in response to this, Danish public health officials started a public health campaign.
Starting point is 00:15:23 And there they emphasize the risk of the disease. They started a Facebook page to answer any questions among other things. And according to an article from the World Health Organization between 2016 and 2017, they were effectively able to double the number of girls being vaccinated. In Ireland, they used a similar strategy.
Starting point is 00:15:37 And according to 2018 numbers so far, there appears to be a 6% increase in vaccination for HPV. And once again, it's not even just measles or HPV. I mean, last winter, 80,000 people died from the flu in the United States. According to the CDC, of the children that died, 80% had not been vaccinated. I guess if there's a final point I can hit on here
Starting point is 00:15:53 is hopefully in addition to just talking about a story that I think is genuinely interesting, hopefully this video can end up serving as one of the pieces that furthers information that leads to more people getting vaccinations. You are so much more likely to be hurt by a vaccine preventable disease than the vaccine. And while you are an individual,
Starting point is 00:16:09 it isn't understood that successful vaccination programs rely on groups, right? The World Health Organization refers to that 95% plus. And just in general, it's incredibly concerning seeing all the issues that are popping up from misinformation campaigns. It's not just this. This is just one of many different things
Starting point is 00:16:27 affected by misinformation. Doubt has been weaponized. Also, don't quote me on the last thing. I'm pretty sure I heard that somewhere, but I can't remember exactly where. But that doesn't stop it from being true. Just look around. And that's where I'm going to end today's show.
Starting point is 00:16:38 And of course, with this being the PDS, I don't wanna just tell you the news. I wanna hear from you. So whether it be this last story, the first one, anything in between, let me know what you're thinking in those comments down below. And while you're at it, if you like today's show, you like these daily dives into the news, hit that like button. If you're new here, hit that subscribe button to make sure you get videos in the future. Also, if you missed yesterday's Philip DeFranco show, you want to catch up, you can click or tap
Starting point is 00:16:57 right there to watch that. Or if you want to check out today's extra morning news video, you can click or tap right there to watch that. But with that said, of course, as always, my name's Philip DeFranco. You've just been filled in. I love your faces and I'll see you tomorrow.

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