The Philip DeFranco Show - PDS 10.23 Sex Offenders Sue Over Trick-Or-Treat Sign, Kylie Jenner, Gabbie Hanna, & Lebanon

Episode Date: October 23, 2019

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Sup you beautiful bastards, hope you're having a fantastic Wednesday. I'm Gabbie Hanna and let's just jump right into it. Another Wednesday, another host that I'm having to fire, Gabbie Hanna. Although with this firing it may be a legal matter because really it's without cause, she killed that intro. That said, despite Gabbie's unfortunate firing, if you'd like to listen to our brand new A Conversation With podcast together, you can listen to it on Apple Podcasts and all the other good places, I'll link to it down below. And or you can watch it right now here on YouTube at youtube.com slash a convo with. I actually just uploaded that before uploading this,
Starting point is 00:00:30 we do it every Wednesday, you should definitely check it out and subscribe, it's just been really fun. But with that said, buckle up, hit that like button and let's just jump into it. The first thing we're gonna talk about today is this news coming out of Georgia around a group of registered sex offenders and I wonder why YouTube hits me. But the story isn't about them committing more crimes,
Starting point is 00:00:47 but rather they're arguing that they are the victims of a situation. In fact, filing a lawsuit against the Butts County Sheriff's Office for posting signs on their homes, warning trick or treaters not to visit. Those signs in question reading, "'Warning, no trick or treat at this address.' A community safety message
Starting point is 00:00:59 from Butts County Sheriff, Gary Long." According to Sheriff Gary Long, the messages were designed to keep kids safe. However, the sex offenders who filed this lawsuit argue that these are a violation of their rights to privacy and have likened this policy to compelled speech, which violates the First Amendment. The lawsuit was filed by the registered sex offenders
Starting point is 00:01:15 that are Christopher Reed, Reginald Holden, and Corey McClendon. And here the men say that the signs were put up by county sheriffs, but also in other cases, the county sex offenders were told that they had to either display the signs on their properties or face unspecified trouble. And one of the things with this story
Starting point is 00:01:28 is that this is actually not a completely new situation. In fact, the initiative to display the signs began back in 2018, with Long directing deputies to place the warnings in the front yards of over 200 sex offenders registered in the county from October 24th to November 2nd. The sheriff's office planned to do the same thing this year, which prompted the lawsuit.
Starting point is 00:01:44 Now in a Facebook post, Sheriff Long said the signs were first instituted after the cancellation of a local Halloween festival, something that ended up resulting in an influx of children just out in the street going door to door. And there he also explained that the signs comply with a state law that forbids sex offenders from participating in Halloween.
Starting point is 00:01:57 And in fact, in other areas of the state, like Monroe and Lamar counties, they also use signs. And in fact, in Monroe County specifically, last Halloween, if an offender did not want a sign in their yard, they just had to wait in the lobby of the local sheriff's office during trick or treat hours. Also regarding this story, the lead attorney for the registered sex offenders told Fox 5 Atlanta
Starting point is 00:02:13 that the Georgia State Sex Offender Registry does not require offenders to post these signs on their homes, and therefore offenders should not be forced by local deputies to display them, saying, quote, "'The law allows a sheriff to put a list "'of registered sex offenders at his office "'at the courthouse on the internet. It does not allow him to go door to door
Starting point is 00:02:27 telling people you have a sex offender living next door to you. Adding, I'm not sure that this kind of action makes your kids any safer. It just makes your constitutional rights less safe. Also going on to call the actions of the deputies trespassing. As far as what these men are seeking, the lawsuit asks for a trial by jury
Starting point is 00:02:41 and asks that the jury award the plaintiffs with compensation for damages including economic harm, emotional distress, and the cost of legal fees. With the group also asking that local authorities prevent it from using the signed policy moving forward. And as far as what's gonna happen now, according to Sheriff Long, the case is going to be heard by a federal court
Starting point is 00:02:55 on Thursday to see if the signs can be used this year, but regardless of the outcome, he says that his office will do everything within the law to protect the community's children. And as far as my reaction to this story, not gonna be surprising if you've watched me any bit, but I have no sympathy whatsoever for the men who filed this lawsuit.
Starting point is 00:03:09 It's personally hard for me not to scoff at some of the things that the lawyer for these men have said. There was one moment where the lawyer described them as brave. As far as the idea of this doesn't make your kids any safer, to me, it sure as fuck seems so. If you're a registered sex offender,
Starting point is 00:03:23 you're some of the worst of the worst. And if there is a way that something can be put into place so that I am aware of the situation, so I don't allow my children to go into that situation, great. Which actually also, let's talk about the people behind the lawsuit. You know, in most all of the coverage that I saw here,
Starting point is 00:03:36 I didn't see actually what these guys had been found guilty of. Right, and so we looked into it, and you know, we're not talking about people who got like caught peeing at a public park or something. All of their incidents involved criminal offenses with minors. You had Corey McClendon, who was reportedly convicted
Starting point is 00:03:48 of statutory rape of two 14 year olds when he was 18. You have Reginald Holden, who was convicted of sexual battery with a minor between the ages of 12 and 15 years old. And finally, Christopher Reed, who was convicted of criminal sexual assault of a minor and aggravated sexual battery. Yet of note, in their lawsuit against Butts County sheriffs,
Starting point is 00:04:04 they all claim they object to being labeled as sex offenders. And ultimately, I think the safety of the children far outweighs the comfort level you have with people knowing what you have done. And so my belief is as long as you can convey that information, that warning in a legal way, great. But of course, with this story,
Starting point is 00:04:18 I'd love to know your thoughts. Are you for what we're seeing from the sheriff? Are you against it? Do you think maybe it's a slippery slope? Any and all thoughts I'd love to see in those comments down below. Then in, I mean, it's truly the most Kardashian slash Jenner story out there.
Starting point is 00:04:32 A member of the family took something that the internet in general was using to mock them and they figured out a way to use it to promote themselves, to even further relevance and to make money. And while that seems like an obvious reference to Kim Kardashian, that sex tape from all those years ago, or more recently there was the Kim's crying face meme that was monetized effectively,
Starting point is 00:04:49 what we've seen in the last two weeks is the now meme that is Kylie Jenner singing Rise and Shine. Rise and shine. That noise is unfortunately in my head forever. As the clip goes out, people are laughing, it's spreading, it's getting memed. Everyone's doing it, like Joe Blow all the way to like the Golden State Warriors are memeing it.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Then Kylie Jenner, rather than being like, "'Screw you guys for making fun of me," she leans into it, launches two Rise and Shine hoodies selling for $65 a pop. They sell out almost immediately. And now it's being reported that she is filing a trademark for Rise and Shine. This reportedly to cover a number of products
Starting point is 00:05:20 that you could wear and also cosmetics. It brings up the question like how many millions and millions of dollars could you make by putting also cosmetics. Right, it brings up the question like, how many millions and millions of dollars could you make by putting Rise and Shine as like the name of a palette for people to just buy it for the meme? And while, you know, I think a lot of people can have different opinions
Starting point is 00:05:33 regarding the actual trademark itself, but just from a business and marketing standpoint, I have to kind of just applaud using all this momentum that was, a lot of it was negativity for you and then using it for your own success. Like the Kardashian-Jenner clan, they're just masters of marketing martial arts. Yeah, there was that.
Starting point is 00:05:50 And then finally, let's talk about this massive news we're seeing out of Lebanon. And specifically what I'm talking about is we're now entering the sixth day of massive protests in Lebanon. And if you're unfamiliar, I mean, this is really fascinating. These protests started last Thursday after the government announced new taxes,
Starting point is 00:06:03 this including a $6 monthly fee for calls on free apps like WhatsApp. But of course, like a number of protests that we've seen and talked about recently, like Hong Kong and Chile, what started over a single issue has rapidly changed into something much bigger. And in Lebanon, we saw the protests quickly evolve into broader calls for economic and political reforms. Now, to fully understand what's going on, what the protesters are actually asking for, we have to take a look at Lebanon's political system.
Starting point is 00:06:24 In Lebanon, the power is spread out among the three largest religious communities, Christian, Sunni, and Shia. Right, and because of this, the political system is very sectarian, meaning that the leaders govern based on religious differences and divides. And in fact, for nearly 30 years now, that political system has largely been credited with keeping relative peace. But now, protesters are saying that it has created corruption and allowed elites to maintain power and enact policies that benefit them, make them wealthier while the rest of the people suffer. Which by the way, many of those policies
Starting point is 00:06:48 have actually put Lebanon in the middle of a massive financial crisis with some economists warning that they could face a complete economic collapse. Lebanon has one of the world's highest debt to GDP ratios and that massive debt means that the government does not have as much money or resources to address social and economic problems. Many in Lebanon's lower and middle classes experience nearly daily power
Starting point is 00:07:07 and water cuts, forcing tons of people to pay high fees to access private generators and buy bottled water. And actually, even regarding the water, even when the water is on, it's highly polluted due to a trash crisis that started back in 2015 and has never been fully resolved. Additionally, and we often see this as a kind of any precursor to any big movement, unemployment is exceptionally high, especially among young people. We've also seen many upset that the ruling elite
Starting point is 00:07:27 have done very little to stop forest fires that have been raging all over the country in recent weeks. And on top of everything, Lebanon has a massive population of Syrian refugees, which is currently estimated to be 1.5 million people. And that number could actually grow as hundreds of thousands are fleeing Syria, given the current situation in Turkey.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Here's the thing, many have actually been upset for a while, but Lebanon's politicians have been using sectarianism to control the populations and prevent different religious groups from unifying against them. But all of that now seems to have changed. While smaller protests have actually been going on throughout Lebanon for weeks now,
Starting point is 00:07:56 the government's decision to raise and implement more taxes seems to be the straw that broke the camel's back. With many perceiving the move as the elites who have done nothing to help the people who are already paying tons of money for basic services in the midst of an economic crisis, basically saying, hey, now you have to pay us more money. After that announcement, you saw other people
Starting point is 00:08:11 begin to protest with thousands showing up in cities all over the country during the first few days of protests. Young people, most of whom were men, according to reports, protested by lighting fires, smashing windows, and chanting against the government. Seeing reports of protesters clashing with police who reportedly responded with tear gas.
Starting point is 00:08:25 We then saw the government quickly scrapped the WhatsApp tax after the protest started, but at that point it was already too late. And it appeared that on Saturday, that is when things changed, when hundreds of thousands of people took to the streets all over the country for peaceful protests. And reportedly they were the largest Lebanon has seen
Starting point is 00:08:39 for nearly 15 years. But notably, these protests were different than what we've seen in the past in Lebanon. Because we ended up seeing people usually divided along sectarian lines coming together to demonstrate against their own leaders and calling for them to step down and for a wholesale change of the political system. These protests also feel different from other protests we've seen and covered recently. I mean, for one, the peaceful demonstrations that started on Saturday have continued ever since and are just that, peaceful. There have actually been very few reports of any violence at all, both among protesters and with police. And in fact, many protesters and reporters on the ground
Starting point is 00:09:07 have described the demonstrations as a huge celebration, largely marked by hope and joy. With one protester in the capital city, Beirut, telling an NPR reporter on the ground, "'I feel euphoric. "'For the first time, I see the people of my country "'standing united together against this tyranny. "'I'm very proud to say I'm Lebanese
Starting point is 00:09:21 "'because the Lebanese people are not scared anymore.'" But of course, despite the hope and the optimism, the underlying anger and frustration that brought the Lebanese people together, of course, still remains. Now as far as what has the response been, in response to the protest, several government ministers and deputies have reportedly stepped down.
Starting point is 00:09:34 We also saw on Monday, Lebanon's President Hariri announce a list of reforms which included no new taxes, cutting government officials' salaries in half, privatizing the telecom industry to cut down on cell phone plan cuts, overhauling the electricity sector, and eliminating some governmental bodies among other things. During a speech following the announcement, Hariri said, "'Your movement is what led to these decisions
Starting point is 00:09:53 that you see today,' but protesters didn't seem to buy it, with many believing that it was just an empty promise, while others just don't want the same people who got the country into this place in the first place to try and fix it." And so following that speech, thousands of people gathered outside of the president's office, chanting revolution, revolution, and the people want to place in the first place to try and fix it. And so following that speech, thousands of people gathered outside of the president's office chanting,
Starting point is 00:10:06 revolution, revolution, and the people want to bring down the regime. And since then the protests of course have continued and they don't show any sign of waning. While the mood of the protests reportedly still seem optimistic, of course, many are still watching carefully to see what happens next.
Starting point is 00:10:18 If that mood changes, will we see a larger, greater, possibly violent response? And we'll see, I mean, it's gonna be interesting to see what happens here, but also just worldwide. I mean, we're seeing this more and more, right? More and more people banding together to rise up against who they see as the elites. You know, we've seen the same thing in Chile. Also, after similar protests in Iraq, security forces reportedly killed 149 people and wounded
Starting point is 00:10:39 over 3,000. And in fact, like in Lebanon, the Iraqi protests were overriding economic inequality and calls for political reforms. And also, I mean, specifically with Lebanon and Iraq, there's also the question of how long can people be united? Will that stay? Will the identity of someone that was failed and has grievances with their government,
Starting point is 00:10:56 will that unite more than the things that have, kind of kept people apart in the past? You know, that's the story, a little of my thoughts on it. And of course I pass the question off to you. What are your thoughts on it? Just like when we talked about Canada and Chile this week, I mean, there are stories that we ended up covering because of people in the area or have family there.
Starting point is 00:11:12 I want everyone's opinion and please include it for those that have family there or live there or somewhere nearby. What do you think is going to happen and what do you hope will happen? Also, are those the same things? I think, you know, everyone has the right to be cynical when you're talking about anyone requesting change
Starting point is 00:11:26 from those that have power. And that's where I'm going to end today's show. Thanks for watching. Also, if you're not 100% filled in, you're looking for more to watch, you can check out that brand new conversation I had with Gabby Hanna, and or maybe you just missed yesterday's show,
Starting point is 00:11:36 you wanna catch up, you can click or tap right there to watch either of those. But with that said, of course, as always, my name's Philip DeFranco. You've just been filled in. I love yo faces and I'll see you tomorrow.

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