The Philip DeFranco Show - PDS 10.28 Joe Rogan Alex Jones Controversy, Kim Kardashian is a ✨Humble Queen✨, & Facebook Just FAILED You
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Sup you beautiful bastards, hope you have a fantastic day.
I am tired and don't really wanna do this,
but I don't like saying no to a signed check,
so let's just jump in.
No, that's...
It's just jokes.
Welcome back to the Wednesday Philip DeFranco Show.
A little tired and loopy today,
but we're gonna get through it, so let's just jump into it.
And to start things off light today,
before we get to the other stuff,
let's talk about Kim Kardashian.
Kim really being in the news for the same reason
that she's been in the news for the past 10 years.
She's getting dunked on publicly while in no way
does it affect her ability to accrue
massive amounts of wealth.
Though today's story actually in part involves
her having accrued massive amounts of wealth.
Right, so if you've spent any time on social media
in the last 24 hours, you have probably seen
Kim Kardashian's birthday post getting torn apart.
Yesterday afternoon posting,
"'40 and feeling so humbled and blessed.
There's not a single day that I take for granted,
especially during these times when we are all reminded
of the things that truly matter.
For my birthday this year,
I couldn't think of a better way to spend it
than with some of the people who have helped shape me
into the woman I am today.
Before COVID, I don't think any of us truly appreciated
what a simple luxury it was to be able to travel
and be together with family and friends
in a safe environment.
And going on to write,
after two weeks of multiple health screens
and asking everyone to quarantine,
I surprised my closest inner circle
with a trip to a private island
where we could pretend things were normal
just for a brief moment in time.
We danced, rode bikes, swam near whales, kayaked,
watched a movie on the beach, and so much more.
I realize that for most people,
this is something that is so far out of reach right now.
So in moments like these,
I am humbly reminded of how privileged my life is.
Hashtag this is 40.
And it turns out those posts
rubbed a lot of people the wrong way.
Are many people finding it rather tasteless
to post something like this
when over 1.1 million people from around the world
have died from coronavirus?
Millions more now unemployed, struggling to make ends meet.
Some say slipped, some say pushed into poverty.
People haven't seen their loved ones in months.
Which is why to many, her post sounded like,
Hi, Pores.
I know you're hurting right now
and can't figure out how you're going to feed your family,
but please enjoy these photos
of my family's expensive vacation.
I know I'm lucky to be so fabulously wealthy,
so I'll make mention of it to sound sympathetic.
I'm really not though.
And you know, in this we saw a mixture of people angry
and others just kind of joking about how out of touch
she seems to be.
A number of people also hitting her back
with that infamous Kardashian meme.
My diamond earring came off in the ocean and it's gone.
Kim, there's people that are dying.
And also with this story,
I do have to say I have some questions.
How exactly do you surprise a group of people
and have them go through numerous health checks
and quarantine?
Because it sounds like at least one part
of the story that you are telling is bullshit.
Yeah, ultimately with this story, I'm not furious.
I'm not angry.
I do think that it's tone deaf.
I think Kim Kardashian here is guilty
of rich personing at the wrong time.
Because in general, while I am personally not a big fan
of the flex, how many shows, Instagram accounts,
whatever, dedicated to kind of lavish lifestyles?
This, I think given the timing for a lot of people,
I think is more akin to someone going like,
oh, this cold bottled water, it's so great.
And everyone else is like, I'm dying of thirst.
Like because you have bottled water,
that doesn't necessarily make you a bad person,
but it's not gonna necessarily be appreciated
if you're kind of waving it around.
Talking about how humbled and blessed you are
to have that bottled water.
Yeah, there was that.
And then let's talk about Joe Rogan
popping back up in the news.
Of course, Rogan is one of,
if not the biggest podcaster in the world.
This year locking down that estimated
to be nine figure Spotify deal.
You know, since that Spotify deal,
there's been a lot more attention
and a lot more criticism against Joe Rogan,
both from outside commentators,
as well as internal disputes at Spotify.
And since that deal was announced
and the old Joe Rogan archive started moving over to Spotify,
we've also seen allegations that there was censorship.
People saying, oh, I bet Spotify is gonna make it
so Joe Rogan can't have on this person,
that person on podcasts in the future.
But over the past 24 hours,
that seems to be very much not the case.
With Joe Rogan, once again, bringing on conspiracy theorists
and guy who said that Sandy Hook was a hoax, Alex Jones.
Right, and so with the release of this episode,
it appeared to confirm that Spotify in no way
is cracking down on Joe Rogan.
It appears to be very much his show.
He is still in control,
especially considering two years ago,
Spotify gave Alex Jones the boot.
With, as The Guardian explained,
Spotify removing the entirety of one of Jones' podcasts
for hate content.
With a spokesperson adding,
due to repeated violations
of Spotify's prohibited content policies,
the Alex Jones show has lost access
to the Spotify platform.
Right, and so with his recent episode,
you had Alex Jones fans as well.
As I would say a lot of Joe Rogan fans happy to see
that this episode could still happen.
But there was also a lot of backlash,
resulting in tweets like,
congrats on paying $100 million
for the privilege of platforming a man
who terrorized Sandy Hook parents.
This isn't edgy, it's disgusting.
And Joe Rogan hosted far-right conspiracy theorist
Alex Jones on his podcast today.
They pushed anti-vax conspiracies
and broadcasted banned InfoWars videos.
Rogan continuing to platform these far-right sickos
is incredibly gross and dangerous."
As far as where Spotify as a company lands with all of this,
I haven't seen a public statement
as of recording this video.
Buzzfeed News reportedly obtained an internal email
from Spotify's chief legal officer
and head of global affairs.
Reportedly wrote that anyone with content concerns
should report them to the company's trust and safety team,
but noted, it's all too common
that things are taken out of context.
And going on to say, we are not going to ban
specific individuals from being guests
on other people's shows as the episode slash show
complies with our content policies.
Going on to say, Spotify has always been a place
for creative expression.
It's important to have diverse voices
and points of view on our platform.
And writing in closing, we appreciate that not all of you
will agree with every piece of content on our platform.
However, we do expect you to help your teams
understand our role as a platform
and the care we take in making decisions."
Yeah, ultimately that is where we are with this story.
And I do want to pass the question off to you.
What are your thoughts regarding all of this?
Are you happy to see Spotify take this stance
or do you think it's the wrong move?
It's hypocritical.
They're just kind of taking care of their investment.
Yeah, any and all thoughts you have on this one,
I'd love to hear from you in those comments down below.
And then let's talk about Facebook,
the place where your grandma says stuff that makes you go,
eh, maybe it wasn't a good idea to give people
over the age of 65 the internet.
Also, if you're like, hey, Phil, that's ageist,
to steal a phrase that my grandmother once used
in a different context, not all of them are bad.
Oh, this is too dark and real.
Also something she might've said.
Jokes that I say to temporarily distract
the feeling of impending doom.
I feel about society at all times these days.
But also, have you ever looked at like your grandparents
and your great grandparents and you're like,
how did I come from that?
Anyway, Facebook, the election, political ads.
Right, so like we talked about back in September,
Facebook announced a number of new policies
aimed at combating misinformation ahead of the election.
With the most notable being that the company said
that they would ban any new political ads
the week before the election.
Now to be clear, that was not a ban on all political ads,
just new ones.
Campaigns could still run old ones.
And in fact, they were even allowed to change the budget
on those ads and decide when they would run.
Right, under the election week ban,
political advertisers were just simply required to submit
and run any new ads before midnight Pacific time on Monday.
And if at this point you're like,
that sounds very easy to exploit, what does that even do?
Yeah, with yesterday officially marking seven days
before election day, the rollout of that policy
did not go great.
Almost immediately we saw Democratic
and Republican strategists saying that the ads
that they had previously run, right,
that met Facebook's guidelines had been banned.
This, including Eric Frenchman,
chief marketing officer at the Republican digital firm,
Campaign Solutions, who told reporters
that several campaigns
that he was working with were hit.
As well as a Biden spokesperson telling Reuters
that an undisclosed number of his campaign's ads
were impacted.
Biden's digital director, Rob Flaherty,
taking to Twitter to slam Facebook,
calling the company's ban a silly, performative,
pre-election hoop jumping exercise.
That also being echoed by Maddie Krieger,
the integrated media director
at the progressive advocacy organization
and super PAC, Priorities USA,
who said their previously approved ads had been blocked,
and,
even with accidental errors,
an error like this has a huge impact on our program
and our ability to communicate to voters.
It's really unacceptable at this stage of the election.
And adding that it is such high stakes
and that this is a real loss.
Honestly, this does matter, right?
Facebook has been one of the cheapest
and most effective ways for candidates,
especially in local races,
to share their messages with voters.
And while at the end of the day,
these glitches might not be a big deal
for campaigns like Biden's and Trump's,
which have a ton of money and manpower,
it can really impact those smaller campaigns
that might not have enough financial and physical support
for alternative outreach,
like emails, texts, and phone banking,
with those being even more important during a pandemic
where in-person outreach like door knocking and campaign events are limited. Now
Facebook for their part did say they were trying to address the issues with a spokesperson tweeting
We're investigating the issues of some ads being paused incorrectly and some advertisers having trouble making changes to their campaigns
We're working quickly on these fixes and will share an update once they are resolved
But that is also not where the backlash against Facebook and this policy ended. With others noting and arguing that the Trump campaign had actually been allowed to run ads
that appeared to violate Facebook's rules.
This including an ad that some people claimed
violated Facebook's rules on misrepresenting election dates.
With that ad showing a picture of Trump with the text
election day is today.
With a caption telling people to vote today.
As well as another ad that some argued violated
the platform's rules against candidates declaring victory
before an election.
And for that one, I'll actually just read the description.
A video in the ad shows the president's face superimposed
on a sun with a voiceover pulled from various sources.
With the video saying, it's morning in America,
Donald J. Trump is still president of the United States.
Flowers then rise from the ground
and open to faces who scream no,
as the smiling president, now also a hummingbird,
flits around.
Now, notably, according to reports,
these ads are not currently being run,
but they are visible in Facebook's ad library
as pre-approved ads that can be run,
which means that in order to have met Facebook's rules
for ads that can be run during election week,
they had to have been run at some point before now,
which is why some outlets claim that these ads
appear to be the Trump campaign's way
of getting around the ban.
Essentially, briefly running ads
that were outright incorrect
at the time that they were initially run,
then pausing those campaigns and then run them again
when they are accurate.
Now, despite that, a few hours after we started seeing
media reports about them yesterday,
Facebook told reporters that they would be removing
the vote today ad, Facebook saying in a statement,
"'As we made clear in our public communications
"'and directly to campaigns, we prohibit ads
"'that say vote today without additional context or clarity.'
"'However,' you also had a spokesperson telling CNBC
they would not take down the ad
where Trump claimed he was still your president.
And this because regardless of the outcome of the election,
Trump will still technically be president
until January 20th.
Right, and while many condemned Facebook
for still allowing some of the Trump ads,
you had the Trump campaign unsurprisingly upset
that Facebook removed any of their ads.
With Deputy National Press Secretary, Samantha Zager,
accusing the company of censoring political messages
to sway the election in favor of Biden.
And adding, this is election interference
at the hands of the Silicon Valley mafia,
and it is dangerous for our democracy.
And actually to that point,
I wanna close this story out on that note, right?
This debate of censorship versus lack of moderation.
And that's because not only has this debate
become more and more heated as we get to election day,
but it's also something that's actually being debated
literally as I make this video.
Right now, there is a Senate hearing
with the CEOs of Facebook, Twitter, and Google.
And actually, I mean, even the hearing itself
has become a subject of contention
because where Republicans have more broadly hit the note
of social media companies are censoring people
and arguing that they are specifically
targeting conservatives when they flag or remove
what they deem to be disinformation or misinformation.
You at the same time have Democrats accusing Republicans
of holding the hearing in order to bully the tech giants
into giving Trump and other conservatives
more favorable treatment.
With them also accusing the tech companies
of failing to do enough to prepare for this election
and what will happen after.
That last part is actually really notable
because last month Facebook said
that it will temporarily ban all political ads
after the election.
Also on that note, Google announced they will do the same.
They just announced that yesterday.
Right, this is in order to prevent politicians
from declaring victory or spreading false information
and paid content before all the ballots are counted,
which is really significant and a point
that bears repeating given the fact that experts
and election officials have been saying for months
that it could take days, if not weeks,
to fully determine the outcome.
This despite Trump's insistence otherwise.
Yeah, that is where this story ends and oh my God, there's only two more Philip DeFranco shows
before it is election day.
Oh, the season or maybe series finale of America
is around the corner.
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