The Philip DeFranco Show - PDS 10.9 Why People Are Freaking Out About Dolan Twins, Ecuador, Mei, Hong Kong & Robert Downey Jr
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Sup you beautiful bastards,
hope you have a fantastic Wednesday.
Welcome back to the Philip DeFranco Show
and let's just jump into it.
And the first thing we're gonna talk about today
are some updates around the massive Blizzard story
that we covered yesterday.
To oversimplify if you didn't see,
Blizzard announced that Cheng Wei,
who was a professional Hearthstone player,
would have his prize money rescinded
and he was banned from professional play for a year
because he said, liberate Hong Kong during the broadcast.
Also, they fired the two casters who were also there
but didn't say anything.
Right, so this was seen by many
as Blizzard bending a knee to China.
Right, essentially making the choice to take money
from a communist country, cracking down,
I mean, among other things, cracking down on free speech
over some of their own mission statements,
like think globally, every voice matters,
and just their general user base.
So, you know, part of what we're seeing
are people calling for a boycott of all Blizzard games.
Even had people like Mark Kern,
who was the team lead for World of Warcraft,
tweeting, this hurts,
but until Blizzard reverses their decision,
I am giving up playing Classic WoW,
which I helped make and helped convince Blizzard to relaunch.
Adding that he's watched China slowly take over
as a dominant investing force in gaming
and movies over the years,
saying Chinese game companies have grown huge,
not just because of market size,
but because the government subsidizes them.
And adding, I've seen firsthand the corruption
of Chinese gaming companies,
and I was removed from a company I founded after Blizzard
for refusing to take a $2 million kickback bribe
to take an investment from China.
This is the first time I've ever spoken publicly about it.
Then going on to say the Chinese company
tried to ruin his career with planted press stories.
Also saying that he's taking a huge risk by saying this
because China monitors all social media
and knows that this means
he'll probably never get an investment from China again.
But adding,
enough is enough. I stand with Hong Kong
and I oppose Blizzard's obvious and laughably transparent
fear of China.
And then later sharing a screenshot of him actually
canceling his subscription, which is something
that we've been seeing more and more people do.
Another thing we've seen are fans taking a character
from a Blizzard property, Overwatch, Mei,
and they've been turning her into a protest symbol.
Or you have Mei with a mask that says,
fight for freedom, stand with Hong Kong, Democracy Now'."
You see the mask again,
this seemingly in reference to the face mask ban.
In the Blizzard subreddit,
along with making a new logo for Blizzard,
you have people sharing May in Hong Kong wear.
Also reportedly, in Tuesday's collegiate
Hearthstone Championship,
American university players held up
a free Hong Kong boycott Blizzard sign.
While a lot of this has been heavily focused on Blizzard,
and yesterday, of course, we even talked about the NBA,
this has also raised the question of where else
does China potentially have their fingers?
With many specifically eyeing
Chinese tech conglomerate, Tencent.
They reportedly own 5% of Activision Blizzard.
And according to reports, just in the PC gaming space,
Tencent owns 100% of Riot Games, 40% of Epic Games,
a little over 11% of Bluehole, Player Unknown's Battlegrounds.
They've also invested in Discord.
You also, you might remember,
where you had some people up in arms
after they invested $150 million into Reddit.
But also at the same time, understand that I'm not saying
that we should expect the exact same thing
from any of these companies.
Just given the news recently of more people than ever
wondering where China's money is involved with US companies.
Which actually on that note, I mentioned Epic Games,
of course the developer behind Fortnite.
They reportedly told The Verge,
Epic supports everyone's right to express their views
on politics and human rights.
We wouldn't ban or punish a Fortnite player
or content creator for speaking on these topics.
And while I always want to try and take someone
at face value, I look at that and I go,
well, you're making that statement now
when you're not the focal point of the story.
And back to Mark Kern regarding this specific topic,
he tweeted that Tencent owns 40% of Epic.
And while Tim, the CEO of Epic,
is taking a great pro speech stance here,
and he believes him,
what's to prevent Tencent from removing him
like what happened to me for not playing ball?
You know, ultimately, I think we're gonna have to wait
to see and if I was to guess,
I feel like more companies are going to be tested soon.
But of course, all that said,
I'd love to know your thoughts around this.
And then let's cover some quickies
and an update to the Martin Scorsese MCU debate
and backlash, which we covered earlier in the week, right?
And that essentially simplified was famed director Martin Scorsese, MCU, debate and backlash, which we covered earlier in the week, right? And that essentially simplified was famed director,
Martin Scorsese saying that the MCU, right?
Those Marvel movies, if they're not cinema,
they're more like theme parks.
Stir up a debate as well as reactions and comments
from people that are actually in the MCU.
And as I said last time,
I'm not gonna bash Scorsese for this, right?
I think his work speaks for itself.
I can't comment on that.
You know, I and a number of people have disagreed.
My personal example of why I think it's cinema is I look to Robert Downey Jr.
His performance in the Iron Man movies, as well as just across the MCU, that arc, I thought it was just fantastic.
You know, it hit me on a truly emotional level.
So I think I and many others were interested in what Robert Downey Jr. had to say about this.
And it's something that I ended up actually commenting on while on the Howard Stern show.
According to Scorsese, it's not cinema.
I got to take a look at that, you know?
Why did he say that?
Because it's his opinion.
But it is cinema, isn't it?
I mean, it plays in theaters.
Were you insulted when he said that it's not cinema,
that somehow Iron Man isn't cinema?
It is cinema to me.
Well, I mean, look, it'd be like saying Howard Stern isn't radio.
It makes no sense to say it.
But was he jealous of the success? Of course not. mean he's martin scorsese and in this clip from howard
stern which i'll link down below uh he ends on this this note that i think is very important
to hear out i listen to the show i agree with most all of your opinions varied though they may
be occasionally you'll go on some on some you know tributary trail of thought that i go like god that's not
how i see it but i go but i love that you see it that way and i personally think that's such
an incredibly healthy way to view this situation and just things in general and also i will say
happily echoes like kind of the number one comment i get from people love the show don't always agree
with your opinion but i love seeing kind of where someone else could be coming from and you know i
don't think we all have to agree i think we would all benefit if we can kind of take a beat,
try to appreciate and understand
maybe where someone's coming from.
And then yes, outside of differing opinions,
you can criticize things like saying
that you don't like something,
even though you didn't actually take the time
to watch something.
I personally found that interesting.
Then we had the massive creators that are the Dolan twins,
Ethan and Grayson Dolan in the news.
The newest video and the articles around it
have just really been spreading and blowing up.
And it was really kind of the latest chapter
of one of last year's biggest stories, creator burnout.
And the reason that this video stuck out to me,
which if you're not a fan of theirs,
you can kind of oversimplify it as,
it's just an hour long video where they're announcing
they're not doing weekly videos anymore,
is that it gives us unique insight into what is happening
in young creators' minds.
Like this online homegrown entertainment ecosystem,
what does that do to people?
You know, they talk about,
they've been doing these weekly videos for five years,
which means they've been doing this since they were 14.
Easily some of the most formative years for a young person.
They talk about the disconnect between who they are
as a real person, the emotions that they're feeling,
and then what they're putting out there
into the world with each video.
Feeling like they're forced to create
out of fear of becoming irrelevant.
Also feeling guilty for not providing something
for the people that support them.
Even to the point that they said, you know,
that they really haven't had the time
to process their father's recent death.
And here's the thing, while I definitely do understand
the part of my audience that will never sympathize
with stories like this.
And I remember busting my ass at a minimum wage job
while going to school, feeling like as much effort
I was putting forward, I was still falling backwards.
Right, I'm supposed to sympathize with someone
that can't speak without there being an echo in their house?
You know, and they're their own boss, right?
They have no one to blame but themselves.
But the twins even say that.
But on the other side of this,
as a person who has been creating on this platform
for over a decade, I greatly sympathize.
I've seen a lot of friends burn out,
people just plunging into massive depression
that you think are the happiest,
most successful people on the planet.
They're also not open with it with the public
because they feel incredibly guilty
and like no one will sympathize.
But really to paraphrase and kind of repeat something
that Shane Dawson says in the video,
to creators, if something is wearing you down,
slowly breaking you, making you sad, pull back.
One, if you force content,
it's going to suck and people will notice.
And two, if people stop watching you
because you're not posting enough,
you are eventually going to lose those people anyway. You've just expedited the you because you're not posting enough You were eventually going to lose those people anyway
You've just expedited the process and you're the only person that really knows what you can handle
I mean even that kind of thinking is why I pulled back on Friday Philip DeFranco shows and decided to put my energy into
Something else that's all really touch on there and regarding the Dolan's I don't really know them
But I wish them well and the last thing we're gonna talk about today is the massive news out of Ecuador where there have just been
Huge protests for almost a week now. And these protests started last Thursday
after President Lennon Moreno announced
that he was ending fuel subsidies
that have been in place for 40 years.
Moreno claimed that the subsidies
had cost the government about $1.4 billion a year,
which is about 5% of the budget.
And so he scrapped them as part of a broader plan
to cut spending under a loan agreement
with the International Monetary Fund
to lower debt and stimulate the economy.
Under that deal, the IMF would give Ecuador
a $4.2 billion loan as long as Moreno imposed measures
to cut back on government spending.
But cutting fuel subsidies means rising fuel prices,
and rising fuel prices have a long history
of sparking protests, right?
I mean, just think of the Yellow Vest Movement
that we talked about in France,
which started over a gas tax increase.
And you know, that price increase really pissed off
a lot of transportation workers, young people,
and indigenous groups in Ecuador
who have already been struggling over the last few years.
Right, this as Ecuador has sunk into debt
and tried to fight its way out of an economic recession.
And so what we see following Moreno's announcement
on Thursday is taxi drivers, bus drivers,
and members of Ecuador's transportation union
launching a strike, blocking roads and highways
all over the country.
They were also quickly joined by students
and indigenous groups.
And actually even after the transportation union
called off the strike on Saturday,
the protests which are now led by indigenous groups
kept on going.
Also following what we saw on Thursday,
Moreno declared a 60 day state of emergency,
allowing him to suspend certain civil liberties
of protesters.
And so what we've seen happen is the protests
have become increasingly violent.
Protesters continued marching and barricading roads
by reportedly setting fires, right,
burning tires and military vehicles.
They've also reportedly thrown petrol bombs and stones
at security forces who have responded by using tear gas
and water cannons against the demonstrators.
The demonstrators have also attacked dozens
of rose plantations and several oil production facilities,
prompting oil field operations to be suspended
all over the country.
And with large parts of the country brought to a standstill,
the Minister of Production, Commerce and Investment
told reporters that Ecuador has actually lost $1.4 billion
over just six days of protests.
Something else we've seen, dozens of people,
including police, have been injured
and one man died after being hit by a car.
Authorities have also arrested hundreds of people,
although there are conflicting reports here.
Some outlets saying 570 people,
while others say the number is now closer to 700.
And one of the big key things here
is it does not seem like things are dying down.
Over the last few days,
demonstrators in the capital city, Quito,
have reportedly stormed
and vandalized multiple government buildings,
all while continuing to clash with police on the streets, destroying property and looting businesses.
And in fact, things got so intense on Monday that Moreno announced that he was literally going to move his government from Quito to a coastal city 150 miles away.
Right, something that I do not believe has ever been done before. Many have described this move as unprecedented.
Moreno has also called for a dialogue with the indigenous groups who have said that they are not behind the violence in the capital. Moreno,
for his part, seems to believe them, even insisting that their protests have been infiltrated by bad actors backed by former Ecuadorian president Rafael Correa,
who is working with Venezuelan president Nicolas Maduro to launch a coup. And a big thing to note here regarding
relationships. Moreno has frequently clashed with Maduro and Moreno used to actually be vice president to Correa, who served before he took office and was
once his mentor.
But Correa has been living in exile in Belgium since being charged of kidnapping a political opponent while president.
Moreno has also blamed Correa for the economic problems that got Ecuador here in the first place.
And during a televised statement on Monday, Moreno said these protests were an attempted coup against him, saying,
What has happened these days is not a social protest against a decision by my government.
The looting, vandalism, and violence show that there is an organized action
to destabilize my government."
Now Correa has denied that he is behind any coup attempt,
telling Reuters, they are such liars.
"'They say I am so powerful that with an iPhone
from Brussels, I could lead the protest.
People couldn't take it anymore.
That's the reality.'"
Also slamming Moreno on Twitter saying,
"'Moreno is finished as happens
with every traitor sooner or later.'"
And adding that he has no legitimacy to govern.
As far as what Maduro was saying,
we've seen him supporting the protesters
with the Washington Post quoting him saying,
"'I express my solidarity with the people of Ecuador.
No more IMF packages, no more misery.'"
Also at the same time,
Venezuelan opposition leader Juan Guaido,
who many countries, including the United States,
recognizes the rightful leader of Venezuela,
supported Moreno's claim, writing on Twitter,
"'While President Lenin Moreno works to maintain
and strengthen the Republic and institutions of Ecuador,
"'a group financed by Maduro's accomplices in America
"'taking advantage of the most vulnerable
"'seeks to end the country's stability.
"'Solidarity with Ecuador.'"
But ultimately, that is where we are with this right now.
It is gonna be interesting
to see what happens moving forward.
Right now, Moreno has said that he will not resign,
but others have noted that in the past,
indigenous-led protests have brought down three presidents.
But also at the same time, it appears that the military is backing Moreno
Yeah, ultimately we're gonna have to wait and see and with that of course, I'd love to know your thoughts
But also especially if you have family there, maybe you're watching from around the area
What are your thoughts around all of this? And that's where I'm going to end today's show
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