The Philip DeFranco Show - PDS 11.19 Russia Nuclear "Threat" Is Crazy BUT Here's The Deal, Diddy Updates, Andrew Tate Wins & Today’s News

Episode Date: November 19, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Sup, you beautiful bastards. Welcome back to the Philip DeFranco Show. You daily dive into the news. It is Tuesday. There is a lot to talk about today. So you just hit that like button, you buckle up and let's jump into it. First up today, Diddy is back in the news
Starting point is 00:00:15 and that's because he's being accused of witness tampering from jail. With this claim now coming from a recent filing from prosecutors who say that Diddy has made, quote, relentless efforts to contact potential witnesses, including victims of his abuse, who could provide powerful testimony against him. Which may then have you wondering, you know,
Starting point is 00:00:30 how could Diddy be doing this while he's stuck in a New York jail cell? And well, according to prosecutors, they say he's been using the phone access codes of other inmates to contact several people, including his sons, and that he's made three-way calls to others. They've also accused him of using a third-party service
Starting point is 00:00:43 to contact people who are unauthorized, and the filing arguing that the calls to his sons and others provides a clear inference that the defendant's goal is to blackmail victims and witnesses either into silence or providing testimony helpful to his defense. Now for his part, Diddy's lawyers are fighting back against the prosecutors here with them filing a motion yesterday saying that the information investigators obtained was attorney-client privileged material. With them then going on to argue that prosecutors violated Diddy's Fourth, Fifth, and Sixth Amendment rights by seizing these materials. Also, the timing with everything in this situation,
Starting point is 00:01:11 it's very crucial. And that because this week, a judge is expected to decide if Diddy should be granted a $50 million bail and be moved to home detention. So obviously, if prosecutors can find evidence that he is witness tampering from inside right now, that would really impact a judge's decision to let him out. And with all this, you had the LA Times speaking
Starting point is 00:01:25 to a former federal prosecutor who said that prosecutors do have reason to believe he is obstructing justice, and there is a good chance that the judge doesn't toss out this evidence. And adding there, inmates don't have a Fourth Amendment expectation of privacy in prison. Guards can search his cell without probable cause or a warrant.
Starting point is 00:01:40 So we'll have to wait to see what happens there. But also, that's not the only update we have on a high-profile trafficking case today. And that's because Andrew Tate just got a pretty big win. Right in that, because the Romanian court found irregularities in the prosecutor's case against Andrew and his brother Tristan. Which means that prosecutors now have by the end of the week to either amend the human trafficking and rape case or withdraw it. And then on top of that, the court also ruled that some of the evidence has to be removed. With that, including statements from two of the main alleged victims, as well as testimonies from both Tate brothers
Starting point is 00:02:05 that were deemed inadmissible. With outlets like Reuters describing this as a setback to the anti-organized crime prosecutor's investigation, citing flaws in the indictment and legal rights violations. And among the flaws, the court reportedly found improper descriptions of acts committed by the female suspects,
Starting point is 00:02:19 missing details on the seizure of assets, and a failure to properly explain some of the charges. And so with all this, not a surprise that the Tate brothers' lawyer was celebrating and giving a statement saying, this is a monumental victory for our clients who have maintained their innocence from the beginning. The court's decision to exclude key evidence and demand rectification of the indictment demonstrates the lack of substantiated claims against them. With Andrew Tate also celebrating on Twitter, writing, Tate's free. Everything the enemies printed on MSM were lies.
Starting point is 00:02:43 The prosecution knew they were lies. We knew they were lies. We were meant to die before we got here. They tried to break us. They wanted us destroyed. They wanted us afraid, but we fought back. It was a game of killing us with lies before a judge exposed the truth, right?
Starting point is 00:02:56 And so a very big win for the Tates, but also it's important to note they are not completely free yet. With outlets like Newsweek even having to do a fact check piece explaining that the case has actually not been dismissed yet as tons of posts have gone viral suggesting that the Taits are fully in the legal clear.
Starting point is 00:03:09 But one, prosecutors still have until the end of the week to decide what's next. And two, as the Associated Press explained, in August, the anti-organized crime agency, DICOT, launched a second case against the Tait brothers investigating allegations of human trafficking, the trafficking of minors, sexual intercourse with a minor, influencing statements and money laundering. They have denied all the charges. Tuesday's
Starting point is 00:03:28 ruling doesn't affect this case. So the general idea is as of right now, the book on this, it's not finished, right? It is the turning of a page, possibly the end of a chapter, but it appears that there is more to read. But there are a number of moving pieces here, and it's going to be very interesting to see what happens by the end of this week. But then in a huge update to what we talked about yesterday with Ukraine, American made long range missiles have now been fired into Russia for the very first time. And specifically Ukraine reportedly launched
Starting point is 00:03:52 at least six US provided attack missiles at a weapons depot in a region bordering Ukraine and Belarus. But then the Russian defense ministry claiming that five missiles were shot down and one was damaged. And saying with that, that there were no casualties or damage and then Russia's foreign minister claimed that the attack was a signal that the US
Starting point is 00:04:07 is the one seeking escalation. Right, and that because this attack happened thanks to Joe Biden authorizing Ukraine's use of the weapons to strike inside Russia, which notably has also led to some European allies also considering lifting restrictions. Or the UK, for example, they're now expected to supply Ukraine with storm shadow missiles
Starting point is 00:04:21 for striking inside Russia. Though this is Germany on the other hand, is sticking with their decision to not provide its Taurus missile system to Ukraine. And then, you know, with all this, we now have Vladimir Putin signing a revised Russian nuclear doctrine that lowers the threshold for his country's use of nuclear weapons.
Starting point is 00:04:33 With this new doctrine specifically saying, "'Aggression against the Russian Federation "'or its allies by any non-nuclear state "'with the participation or support of a nuclear state "'is considered as their joint attack.'" And so what that means, at least in theory, is that a US-backed conventional weapons attack, like the one that literally just happened,
Starting point is 00:04:49 it could trigger a nuclear response. That is if Russia deems the attack a critical threat to the, quote, sovereignty and territorial integrity of Russia and its ally, Belarus. And so with this, on one hand, you know, that might make you think that people opposed to lifting weapons restrictions had a point. And you know, maybe they do.
Starting point is 00:05:04 But then on the other hand, this isn't actually new. Putin actually outlined these new rules back in September. He's just making them official now. And then of course, beyond that, he's been brandishing Russia's nuclear arsenal to discourage Western aid to Ukraine since virtually day one of this war. Also notably, America allowing Ukraine to use these missiles
Starting point is 00:05:20 is a response to Russia all of a sudden bringing in tens of thousands of North Korean troops to fight. And then finally here with all this, you had the Russian foreign minister saying today that Russia is strictly committed to a position of avoiding nuclear war and that the weapons act as a deterrent. Though of course, when we're talking about war, you know, yeah, none of it should be taken lightly. And then also with that specifically out of the way, it's not just nuclear attacks that people are worried about from Russia. Like for example, we got to talk about these two undersea fiber optic communications cables in the Baltic Sea that have just been mysteriously severed.
Starting point is 00:05:48 But the spokesperson for the company that owns one of the cables saying, these kinds of breaks don't happen in these waters without an outside impact. And then with that, you had the German defense minister saying, no one believes that the cables were accidentally damaged. We have to state without knowing specifically who it came from, that it is a hybrid action. And we also have to assume without knowing it yet that it is sabotage.
Starting point is 00:06:06 But of course there, the prime suspect being Russia, which we know one is extra pissed off right now. And two is already accused of all sorts of sabotage in Europe, right from spying to arson to assassination. Though to be clear, neither Germany or other countries are directly accusing Russia of destroying the cables right now. Because at this point we really have no evidence exactly
Starting point is 00:06:23 of what happened or who's behind it. Yeah, you know, just something you should be aware of. And if for any reason you feel like you need to research what you might need to do, Fallout is a great show on Prime. And then you are a minority, but a growing minority. Right, and that because this new report from Pew found that 37% of US adults between 18 and 29 say
Starting point is 00:06:44 that they regularly get information from news influencers online. And then also for those of you not in that age group, you're in an even bigger minority. Because on average, only 21% of all US adults say the same. And among Americans who get their news from news influencers, 65% said influencers
Starting point is 00:06:57 help them better understand current events, and 70% said that the news that they got from the influencers is at least somewhat different from the news they get via other sources. But also some of the most interesting information from this study wasn't about the consumers, but rather the influencers themselves. With Galen Stocking, for example,
Starting point is 00:07:12 a senior computational social scientist at Pew saying in a statement, "'These influencers have reached new levels of attention "'and prominence this year amid the presidential election. "'We thought it was really important to look at "'who is behind some of the most popular accounts, "'the ones that aren't news organizations, but actual people. With Pew then looking at a sample
Starting point is 00:07:27 of 500 popular news influencers, which was narrowed down from a review of 28,000 social media accounts. With them defining news influencer as someone who regularly posts about current events on social media and has at least 100,000 followers on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, X, or YouTube. Right, so this can include independent creators
Starting point is 00:07:42 as well as journalists affiliated with news organizations. So notably, it turned out that most, or 77%, had no affiliation or background with news organizations. The report also found that as a generally male-dominated space, with 63% of news influencers being men, 30% being women, and the rest being either non-binary or their gender was unclear, with Pew then noting that many of these creators
Starting point is 00:08:01 also tend to have a conservative lean, saying many Republicans have long believed that social media sites censor conservative viewpoints. But overall, more news influencers explicitly present a politically right-leaning orientation than a left-leaning one, 27% versus 21% in their account, bios, posts, websites, or media coverage. Though also noting with that,
Starting point is 00:08:18 about half of influencers do not express any clear political orientation. You know, among the news influencers that Pew said that they looked at, you had names that often come up when discussing news and political creators. Right, Hassan Piker, David Pakman, Jack Posobiec. You also had politicians themselves,
Starting point is 00:08:31 like Stacey Abrams making the list, and former news anchors like Megyn Kelly and Don Lemon. But perhaps the biggest creator listed was Joe Rogan. While the report didn't do deep dives into the content made by these creators specifically, it started by noting how big a sway some influencers have, as some have gotten to interview presidential candidates. With that, you would see NBC saying
Starting point is 00:08:47 that some of this is actually very good for political candidates, not only because social media is a relatively cheap way to reach a large audience, but also because they argue that these platforms and the creators make it easier to advance a straightforward message compared to an interview on a traditional news network,
Starting point is 00:08:58 or where they say that journalists tend to be more combative. With Syracuse professor Joshua Dar saying, "'It's probably good for the electorate "'to have a hard sit-down interview, but if it's a series of rapid-fire gotcha questions, I don't know if that's something campaigns are going to sign up for. Then it's also argued that one of the major negatives that comes up time and time again is how easy it is for misinformation to thrive on social media, especially as it pertains to politics and news.
Starting point is 00:09:18 The Columbia professor telling CNBC, There were standards that the networks used to determine what was true. Those guardrails are gone through social media. When you're getting information through social media, how do you know how original that information is? It's very hard to verify that. And unfortunately the algorithm doesn't care. It just keeps sending you the same kind of information.
Starting point is 00:09:35 Though all of this, of course, playing out as trust in traditional news media is kind of at an all time low. So I guess with all that said, with you being a consumer of online news via me right now in this literal moment, I'd love to know your thoughts on this report, its findings, whether it be about the political or gender gaps, or just the situation in general. And that can include the pros and cons
Starting point is 00:09:54 of people consuming information in this specific avenue. But then, taking a quick minute away from the news, whether it's city sounds, a snoring partner, or just a busy mind, sometimes we need help quieting the world down. And well, thanks to today's sponsor, Oslo Sleepbuds, we've found the way to get that good night's rest. I mean, these are a recovery game changer.
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Starting point is 00:11:02 But then, officials on every level, from local leaders to the president of the United States, are openly condemning the neo-Nazi march we just saw in Ohio. Right, because as you may have already seen, there's a video circulating online showing a group of masked assholes waving swastika flags while marching down
Starting point is 00:11:16 a street in Columbus. Reportedly, about 10 people were involved, three of whom were carrying the flags they paraded past local businesses while shouting the N-word. And according to local authorities, the group was armed, and there may have been a physical altercation before the police arrived, with one outlet businesses while shouting the N-word. And according to local authorities, the group was armed and there may have been a physical altercation before the police arrived,
Starting point is 00:11:28 with one outlet saying someone may have pepper sprayed them. But with everything, you had the police going on to say that while many of the neo-Nazis were temporarily detained, no one was arrested. And as you'd expect, you know, we've seen different reactions on the local level. We saw community leaders doing a march of their own in a demonstration against the neo-Nazis and their hate.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Columbus's mayor, Andrew Ginther, posting a statement on Twitter condemning the the quote, cowardly display and adding, "'We will not allow any of our neighbors "'to be intimidated, threatened, or harmed "'because of who they are, how they worship, "'and who they love.'" But then the city attorney posting his own statement saying that this is not who Columbus is,
Starting point is 00:11:57 and they won't quote, "'tolerate or normalize this disgusting ideology "'in any form.'" And adding, "'Take your flags and the masks you hide behind "'and go home and never come back. Your hate isn't welcome in our city. And moving up a bit, you had Ohio's governor Mike DeWine saying the same things in his statement and adding,
Starting point is 00:12:10 there is no place in this state for hate, bigotry, antisemitism or violence and we must denounce it wherever we see it. And then all the way up at the top, you had the White House condemning the Neo-Nazi march, calling it a sickening display and adding, President Biden abhors the hateful poison of Nazism, antisemitism and racism, which are hostilehors the hateful poison of Nazism, antisemitism, and racism,
Starting point is 00:12:25 which are hostile to everything the United States stands for. Though I will say, as much as people say, this is not who we are, I mean, I can't even say that this is the first time we've seen a neo-Nazi demonstration this month. I mean, just last weekend, a group of them gathered outside a local production of the Diary of Anne Frank
Starting point is 00:12:39 in Livingston County, Michigan. And then there was also a demonstration by neo-Nazis in Springfield, Ohio back in September. But then let's talk about Donald Trump nominating another Fox News host to hold a key position in his cabinet. Though I will say this one does have experience in public office, right?
Starting point is 00:12:51 Because yesterday Trump announced that he was tapping former Wisconsin Congressman and Fox Business host Sean Duffy to lead the Department of Transportation. Right, and here Duffy seems to have kind of the perfect mix of political and media experience that Trump's looking for. Because for those that don't know, Duffy actually first rose to prominence
Starting point is 00:13:04 as a reality TV star in the late 90s. He was on The Real World, Boston, and then Road Rules All Stars. But then after earning his law degree, he worked as a district attorney in Wisconsin before then being elected to Congress, where he served from 2011 to 2019. Then after leaving office, he did a brief stint at CNN
Starting point is 00:13:18 as part of kind of a slate of pro-Trump contributors, but he quickly left for Fox after facing backlash for comments questioning the loyalty of a key witness in Trump's first impeachment. You know, since then, he's been very vocal Fox after facing backlash for comments questioning the loyalty of a key witness in Trump's first impeachment. You know, since then he's been very vocal about his continued support for Trump. Now, as far as, you know, how he's gonna run the Department of Transportation,
Starting point is 00:13:31 that kind of remains unclear. He has very little transportation experience, though I will say that is not uncommon for the posting. Repeat Buttigieg didn't either. And already, like, if you look out there, it does not seem like in any way Duffy's appointment has been met with as much controversy as Trump's other nominees.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Hell, some Democrats even gave him kind of a fairly lukewarm response. But what we do know is that the job that he's inheriting, it's not an easy one. Like it is not a secret that our infrastructure is crumbling and if confirmed, I mean, he'll be the one responsible for deciding how to rebuild it. Duffy will also be tasked with oversight
Starting point is 00:13:59 of the Federal Aviation Administration, right, the FAA, which that, I mean, that just continues to struggle with air traffic control and remains at the center of hot-button air safety debates amid the ongoing Boeing scandal. And then beyond that, he'll be in charge of the Federal Railroad Administration, which is under pressure to make safety reforms after the high-profile derailment in East Palestine, Ohio. And then on top of that, there's kind of the whole Elon Musk of it all, because the Department of Transportation plays a huge role in regulating Tesla and SpaceX. And Elon Musk has made his displeasure with the department very clear. He's openly and repeatedly clashed with regulators
Starting point is 00:14:26 at the FAA over its launch practices. And then on top of that, the traffic safety arm of the agency is actively investigating Tesla over its full self-driving system after the company reported multiple crashes, including one that killed a pedestrian. And of course, all of this as Musk himself
Starting point is 00:14:38 is playing an increasingly larger role in the administration. Not only being tapped to lead the so-called Doge commission, but also just generally being very close to Donald Trump. Also, regarding a connected story with Musk, we saw Trump making another notable appointment that Musk stands to benefit from, with Trump over the weekend choosing Brendan Carr
Starting point is 00:14:53 to be the chairman of the Federal Communications Commission. Right, and for some context here, right, the way the FCC works is that there are five commissioners and the president designates one to be the leader of the agency. So Carr is actually already serving as commissioner, a post that Trump appointed him in 2017. And unlike Duffy, Carr has made it abundantly clear
Starting point is 00:15:09 what he plans to do with his new position of power. Because Carr has publicly said that he will fulfill Trump's goals of slashing regulations and going after big tech and TV networks that the president-elect views as being biased against conservatives. He's also notably yet another appointee who has deep ties to Project 2025,
Starting point is 00:15:23 despite Trump repeatedly claiming that the blueprint wouldn't be part of the official policy of his administration. People noting that Carr literally wrote Project 2025 chapter on the FCC, with him there arguing that the agency needs to focus on reining in big tech, accusing the companies of trying to censor
Starting point is 00:15:36 diverse political viewpoints. And then also very significantly, he wrote in his chapter that he supports banning TikTok, which key thing here is a move that Trump has flip-flopped on and now says that he opposes. But then also beyond Project 2025, Carr has also implied that he would take on TV broadcasters that Republicans viewed as politically biased.
Starting point is 00:15:52 I will say, notably here, it's unclear how much power he'll really have in those areas, right? The FCC can't punish TV or radio stations for editorial decisions unless they violate regulations on obscenities or children's TV rules. And this, as experts also say, that the ability of the FCC to fully regulate big tech, it remains a legal gray area.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Though, I would say one that is expected to be tested under Carr. Because he definitely has many tools at his disposal, and also what we know is that he could use his position to significantly benefit Elon Musk. Carr has repeatedly spoken out in favor of, and even actively vouched for, various companies owned by Musk.
Starting point is 00:16:22 With Carr especially speaking out in favor of Starlink, advocating for the company to receive nearly a billion dollars in FCC grants and throwing a major fit when the agency declined. With him accusing the Democratic majority of regulatory harassment against Musk. But now with him in charge and Republicans having the majority of the five person commission,
Starting point is 00:16:37 Carr could help steer enormous lucrative contracts to Starlink. So with that, not a complete surprise that we've seen Musk cheering the news of Carr's appointment. Then taking a quick break from the news, behind every episode of the show is a heartbeat, whether it's my producer, the team, or you, the people watching.
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Starting point is 00:17:56 capital of Wellington, specifically against a proposed law that would reshape the country's founding treaty. And that's a treaty that was signed by the colonial British regime and 500 Maori chiefs in 1840. It basically laid out the principles guiding the relationship between the crown and the indigenous population. Notably, they signed two versions of the text, one in the local language and one in English,
Starting point is 00:18:14 and that's long sparked debate over how the treaty should be defined and interpreted. And of course, as you'd likely imagine, for a long time, the colonizers ultimately got their way. But notably, over the past few decades, the country's parliament and judicial system, they've come to interpret the treaty as promising Maori significant decision-making powers and special protections. And then with that, along came a man by the name
Starting point is 00:18:31 of David Seymour. He's the leader of one of three parties forming the country's conservative coalition government. And he introduced something called the Treaty Principles Bill, with him and his supporters saying that the way the treaty has been interpreted over the years has given indigenous people special treatment. Though notably, Maori who make up 20% of the country's population, they're still behind when it comes to almost every social and economic metric. And that's actually despite attempts in recent decades to deal with inequities caused in large part
Starting point is 00:18:53 by breaches of the treaty. And so with that, you have people like Margaret Mutu, a professor of Maori studies saying, "'It denies the fact that the statistical reality "'of Maori is that we are way behind the rest "'of the population because we have been colonized. "'We've had everything taken off us. With another Maori legal expert saying, if those principles are redefined and significantly weakened, there will be fewer legal mechanisms for Maori to have their rights recognized. And you know, that's why the backlash
Starting point is 00:19:16 has been so strong. Because before today, you may have seen this viral moment from a session of parliament last week, where you had a Maori lawmaker symbolically ripping up the controversial bill and being joined by some of her colleagues in a traditional dance called a haka. And actually it was also last week that a nine-day march in the Capitol began, with an estimated 10,000 people passing through one town almost 300 miles north of the Capitol on Friday, and then finally reaching Wellington today, having grown to more than 40,000 strong.
Starting point is 00:19:58 And so with all that, this bill has almost no chance of becoming law. It turns out it's even opposed by most people in the conservative governing coalition. But notably, this has gained attention as people's anger may be about more than just this one bill. Because since coming into power, the conservative government has implemented other policies that critics say threaten Maori rights. For example, that including a directive that public agencies should no longer target policies that specifically address racial inequities. They also abolished a health body dedicated to indigenous health, challenging their protected representation in local governments and discouraging government departments
Starting point is 00:20:25 from using the Maori language. But for now, I have to wait to see where things go from here if this grows, if this was just kind of a small moment in time, and well, of course, I'd love to know everyone's thoughts, especially if you are from, or you know someone in New Zealand, I'd love to hear from you.
Starting point is 00:20:38 And then, Google may now have to sell off their browser, Chrome, right, and that, because as you might remember back in August, you had federal judge, Amit Mehta, ruling that Google illegally monopolized the search market. And saying there that the $26 billion that they paid to make their search engine the default option on smartphones and web browsers effectively
Starting point is 00:20:54 blocked their competitors from success in the market. And so by securing that monopoly, the judge said that Google was able to hike online advertising prices without consequences. Now with this, when the ruling first dropped, we didn't know for sure what the DOJ was gonna ask regarding changes to solve the problem. But we may finally now have the answer to the problem
Starting point is 00:21:09 because Bloomberg's reporting that the Justice Department plans on asking Meta to force Google to sell off Chrome, a sale that would be both huge generally as well as what the price tag is, right? It could reportedly fetch as much as $20 billion. And as far as why sell off Chrome, you have Bloomberg citing sources saying that the DOJ knows that Chrome is a key access point
Starting point is 00:21:25 for people to use the Google search engine. And losing Chrome, it could be a serious hit for Google. I mean, it's the world's most popular browser and owning it's a key part of Google's ad business. Through Chrome, the company is able to see activity from signed in users and use that data to more effectively target promotions, which then makes up most of its revenue.
Starting point is 00:21:40 And that's without mentioning that they've been using Chrome to direct users to his AI product, Gemini. Now, unsurprisingly with all this, Google has already promised to appeal and certainly doesn't have anything positive to say about this latest development. Or with their vice president of regulatory affairs saying that the DOJ quote,
Starting point is 00:21:52 "'Continues to push a radical agenda "'that goes far beyond the legal issues in this case.'" And adding, "'The government putting its thumb on the scale in these ways "'would harm consumers, developers, "'and American technological leadership "'at precisely the moment it is most needed.'" But also an important note here is that
Starting point is 00:22:06 this isn't a done deal yet. Like this is technically just one of several recommendations from the DOJ that Judge Mehta will be considering. But some of the others being things like requiring Google to uncouple the Android operating system from its other products like the Play Store or search engine, as well as requiring them to give websites more options to stop their content
Starting point is 00:22:21 from being used by Google's AI products. Especially because there's also the matter of finding a buyer for Chrome, right? Not a lot of companies have $20 billion lying around. And then even there, the companies that could afford it and would want to buy it like Amazon, they're already facing their own antitrust scrutiny. With for example, one Bloomberg analyst saying
Starting point is 00:22:35 that he thinks Chrome's sale is quote, extremely unlikely, but that maybe open AI could take an interest. Saying that would give it both distribution and an ads business to compliment its consumer chat bot subscription. But fortunately or unfortunately, depending on who you are, it appears that it's gonna be a while before we actually know what's gonna happen.
Starting point is 00:22:50 Right in that, because the judge scheduled the hearing for April of next year to decide what changes are gonna be required and planning to issue the final ruling next August. But ultimately that is where your Tuesday evening Wednesday morning dive into the news is gonna end. Though, quick announcement for tomorrow. One, you will be getting your regular Philip DeFranco show
Starting point is 00:23:06 at the regular Philip DeFranco show time. But two, there might not be a morning live stream over at twitch.tv slash defrancolive. We've got a family thing, but I might be able to squeeze in an earlier morning live stream, we'll see. Best bet is just to follow me over there to make sure you get notifications.
Starting point is 00:23:19 But that said, my name's Philip DeFranco, you've just been filled in. I love yo faces, and I'll see you right back here tomorrow.

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