The Philip DeFranco Show - PDS 11.3 What Logan Paul vs Andrew Tate Really Shows Us, Elon, Twitter, AOC, Bo Burnham, Ukraine, Iran & More

Starting point is 00:00:00 Sup you beautiful bastards, welcome back to the Philip DeFranco Show. Buckle up, make sure you hit that like button to let me know you like these big shows and let's just jump into it. Logan Paul fighting Andrew Tate. It's a weird topic. It's been a rumored thing, heavily talked about. It's something that Logan has kind of flip-flopped on. At one point Logan's saying, When I'm shopping the idea around to my advisors, they're concerned that he won't be as poppin' as he is right now or as relevant in, you know, December or January. Then on an August 30th episode of his podcast, he said, I don't feel like platforming this guy.

Starting point is 00:00:34 I don't feel like giving him the blessing of being my dance partner in the ring. Especially after the social media platforms have made it very clear how they feel about this guy, right? At that time, also speaking about other creators, including one of his partners, KSI. You want to replatform this guy? Anyone. You want to have him on your shows? You want to give him another opportunity to speak and spread his agenda? But now it appears Logan Paul has flip-flopped.

Starting point is 00:00:58 With places like Dixerto noting, on an October 31st episode of Sean O'Malley's podcast, Logan Paul said, Why don't we do something that both of us have never done? Clean record. 0-0. Let us step into the f***ing octagon, brother. An MMA fight. Me versus Tate.

Starting point is 00:01:17 In the UFC. With the outlet then noting that a Twitter account that is believed to be run by Andrew Tate voiced his thoughts on the subject. Criticizing Logan, praising his brother Jake Paul, but saying, If the terms are fair to both parties, I will fight Logan in the cage and destroy him. I've already contacted and confirmed this with a mutual contact. It's time for Logan to pay the price. I will not allow him to earn more money than me, for his destruction as a clown like him with a mediocre online income

Starting point is 00:01:39 would happily sacrifice his pride for money. I promised I would fight him for free, and I meant it. With Logan Paul responding, This is fantastic. I honestly didn't think you'd take my offer. Literally just got off the phone with our mutual contact and I'm down for your drug test and any other fair terms you want. This is going to happen. But ultimately, that is where we are. And I just, I have so many questions. One, does this actually happen? Two, what are your thoughts if it does happen? What are your, also, what are your thoughts regarding Logan Paul changing his tune? And I especially

Starting point is 00:02:02 want to know your answer to that if you're someone that hates Andrew Tate, or you love him, or you were for or against the deplatforming. Also, will they make money from this? If so, how much? Like, is it true they'll do it for free? I don't know. Like, so many things these days, it is a weird, weird mess, but that's why I'd love to know your thoughts on it. And then, psilocybin keeps looking better and better as a treatment for depression, with researchers from the UK having just published their new findings and saying that when used alongside psychotherapy, psilocybin drastically improved patients' depression symptoms.

Starting point is 00:02:29 As far as the specifics, they gave participants 25 milligrams of synthetic psilocybin, putting them into a dreamlike state for six to eight hours, right? They were just on a mild trip. And then while in a calm room, they got their psychotherapy.

Starting point is 00:02:39 And in the end, one in three were no longer considered depressed after just three weeks. And one in five saw significant improvement at 12 weeks. With Dr. James Rucker, who authored the study, saying that this works because the drug, quote, has a direct action on the brain, putting it into a more flexible state and providing a window of opportunity for therapy. Or I guess to put it in layman terms, it opens your bitch ass up. And what's especially great about this is that it often works on depression that has otherwise been resistant to treatment.

Starting point is 00:03:02 However, a key thing is that this isn't the end-all be-all on the subject, right? There are safety concerns beyond just having a bad trip, things like long-term headaches, nausea, extreme fatigue, and suicidal thoughts. But those side effects haven't deterred the researchers, and if anything, they help reinforce the call for longer and larger studies to be done. Or because everything in life, especially when you're talking about treatments or medications, there is a give and take. And actually, on that note, we should expect more information soon. This is because the largest ever trial of the drug is set to start in late December. With that reportedly focused on how large the doses need to be to keep depression from coming back. And a huge key thing here is that this is the first time any psilocybin trial

Starting point is 00:03:34 has reached phase three, which is the last step before being sent to the FDA for approval. Also, if you are someone that suffers from depression and specifically treatment resistant depression, while I am not calling for you to do anything, I would recommend you check out the studies around psilocybin as well as ketamine. Because there are places where you can legally do it under medical supervision. There's also like therapy involved in some of them. But I also want to stop at recommending you actually do anything because I feel like that's such a fucking personal choice. I saw this ad on TikTok, I want to say several months ago,

Starting point is 00:04:03 that put a bad taste in my mouth. It was actually advertising ketamine and its slogan i shit you not was go from a saddie to a baddie and i was like how is that fucking responsible advertising in any way but anyway the war on the sads continued and then bo burdum is absolutely right that's not a new take for me i've been a fan of bo burdum since before he got weirded out by katie perry at youtube live but once again in the 24 hours, more and more people have been like, yeah, no, what Bo said is right. That's because there's this old clip that's as relevant as ever of Bo Burnham talking about social media and these companies. It has to get more of you.

Starting point is 00:04:34 That could be the ceiling for a place like this. YouTube, the ceiling could be three hours of engagement. No matter how nice it's trying to be, it is all that they're trying to get more engagement from you. We used to colonize land. That was the thing you could expand into. And that's where money was to be made. We colonized the entire earth. There was no other place for the businesses and capitalism to expand into.

Starting point is 00:04:59 And then they realized human attention. That we can now, they are now trying to colonize every minute of your life. That is what these people are trying to do. Every single free moment you have is a moment you could be looking at your phone. You know, it's true. I mean, for over a decade, people have called this the attention economy. More and more people realizing they're the product of these companies that they can have a message of some sort. But at the end of the day, it's to help investors or themselves. And it reminds me of that quote of, what starts out as a mass movement

Starting point is 00:05:25 ends up a racket, a cult, or a corporation. It's incredibly rare, if not impossible, to have a completely pure thing at a mass scale. You know, when it comes to social media, we do view it as this tool, but also I think it's important to understand that we're still in the middle of an experiment. What happens when everyone can see

Starting point is 00:05:42 and say all things at any given time? Which also, in other news, regarding the experiment, the newest chapter of Elon Musk's Twitter takeover, we're already seeing it play out. We're seeing things like big headlines involving Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Right, unsurprisingly, AOC has been critical of Musk and his Twitter idea, specifically taking a jab at his $8 verification subscription, saying, Laughing my ass off at a billionaire earnestly trying to sell people on the idea that free speech is actually an $8 a month subscription plan. To which Elon replied, Your feedback is appreciated, now pay $8. With Elon then trying to call out AOC for selling $58 sweatshirts, though she shot back saying,

Starting point is 00:06:14 Proud of this and always will be. My workers are union, make a living wage, have full healthcare, and aren't subjected to racist treatment in their workplaces. Items are made in USA, Team AOC honors and respects working people, you should try it sometime instead of union busting. Well of course you saw a lot of people sounding off, there were people against her, people in her corner. Not too long after this whole thing, AOC said that her mentions and notifications were quote conveniently not working and she was informed via text that she got under a certain billionaire's skin. With this issue seemingly continuing into the morning with her tweeting, Yo Elon Musk, while I have your attention, why should people pay $8 just for their app to get bricked when they say something you don't like?

Starting point is 00:06:46 This is what my app has looked like ever since my tweet upset you yesterday. What's good doesn't seem very free speechy to me. Right, so we'll see what happens there. That's the bulk of the story. But where I actually want to end this one is that the more that I've thought about it, the more that I think Elon Musk's $8 subscription thing,

Starting point is 00:06:59 it might actually work. But not because it's necessarily a good idea. Like most of the stuff that he's talking about is just Twitter blue or that whole checkmark thing being the reason why you won't get as much spam or anything anymore. That's literally him monetizing a platform, not being able to moderate itself. Like he's literally trying to take the worst thing about it and being like, you want it to not suck as much? Give me $8 a month, which, Hey, like I've said, it is his platform to build or burn to the ground. But I think there are several possible groups that actually buy this.

Starting point is 00:07:25 One, you're going to have people who already pay for YouTube Blue that just keep on doing it, which actually I am a part of this group. I subscribed to YouTube Blue when it first came out. I wanted to test, see what it's about. Honestly, I feel like the only reason I haven't canceled the subscription is I really like the undo button. While it could easily be seen as overpriced, I also feel like it saved me for myself a few times. Two, you're going to have this batch of people that are already verified that don't want to lose it, or people who have always wanted to be verified and now they're able

Starting point is 00:07:46 to get it. Three, people that feel like the default experience is horrible and they are willing to pay for a better experience. And four, while in no way do I want to say this is universal, it does feel like there's an element to this that is like monetizing the culture war. It's not purely left wing and right wing, but it feels very close to that. With some saying that Elon Musk is using like the fuck coastal elites sort of a political playbook. But hey, time will tell. Will this be the rocket ship for Twitter or is it gonna explode on takeoff?

Starting point is 00:08:13 Either way, it's gonna be interesting to watch because the way Elon's been doing things, it feels like how a CEO of an app that's in beta goes about things. Big swings are happening fast and publicly and then quick thing i want to announce this sunday we're going to be testing a new thing here on the channel you know we've been uploading those weekly recaps with zed i love that you guys have been loving it but also this sunday at 10 a.m pacific we're gonna be testing turning that into

Starting point is 00:08:35 like a community show so for those who have been tuning in just for that you're still getting your weekly recap and we're gonna be having a whole show where we talk about the news me and you as well as taking a look at and continuing the conversation we've been having around news this week and those comments as well as the polls, and it should be fun. But yeah, I want to make sure I let you know because I'm really bad at that and I often just, like, throw videos up. Thank you or you're welcome, I'm not sure. And then, if you're looking for great value regarding your streaming needs,

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Starting point is 00:10:00 after missiles hit several hydroelectric dams and plants, according to the mayor. With President Zelensky also saying last week that about 4 million people were subjected to electricity rationing. But the key thing is, you know, I realize both as someone that consumes the news like you do and someone that has my show that it's really hard to understand what's happening on the ground in Ukraine just from the media reports and statistics. Which is why for today's show, we decided to reach out to Vitaly Denega, the founder of the Ukrainian Witness Project. Their goal is to document life in Ukraine and capture the reality of war for a global audience. So a key thing I want to mention is that this interview took place last week,

Starting point is 00:10:28 just before this latest round of missile strikes, so I just want you to keep that in mind. And if anything, it kind of highlights how drastically things can change. But as far as Vitaly, he arrived in Kiev on February 22nd, just two days before Russia launched a full-scale invasion of the country, which he said didn't surprise him, saying he actually got word from a Ukrainian official that war was imminent, so he came to do his part and help his mother exit the

Starting point is 00:10:47 country understand this was at a time where most people were running in the opposite direction with as many as half the city's residents fleeing within a couple of weeks with Vitaly explaining by doing that it resulted in just this this dense community of only those most committed to the country's defense it was pretty strange time but the feeling was fantastic I mean like you went to the street and every person you've seen it was like you really feel like that you love this guy or like you love this woman because like the people who stayed in here with were people who decided that this is my city I'm not going anywhere like I will I will go and fight if like it's needed if they will come to my street whatever and the feeling was fantastic

Starting point is 00:11:25 I mean like it was the best atmosphere in the city of like in all my life But also understand it's not like it was all fun You had constant shelling and explosions food and fuel shortages doctors living in hospitals ever Vitaly the violence touched him personally A lot of my friends went to fight armed forces Some of them unfortunately died. But at least in Kyiv, he says that the worst of the war passed earlier in the spring and things weren't as bad now. In fact, one of the most surprising things that he told me

Starting point is 00:11:51 was just how little daily existence in the capital had changed. You see, there are like many cars driving around, like people crossing the street, like restaurants working. I don't see, like we cannot see from this perspective any restaurant but believe me most of them are working so basically life looks pretty the same actually if we're talking about for example food like the food is uh i mean like you can buy like it's not a problem you can buy any food you can go to restaurant. The same is with, like, medical services.

Starting point is 00:12:28 It's not a problem if you have any disease in Kiev to have an operation, surgery, whatever. But right now, it looks, in many ways, it feels the same, but still there are more, like, military guys on the streets. Though, of course, any sense of normalcy is often interrupted by the wail of air raid sirens, especially when there's heavy shelling nearby, prompting some people to hide in bomb shelters, basements and metro stations. Though, Vitaly said, even in those moments, most people just don't take it that seriously. Like in 90% of the cases like that, people just don't do anything because like the chance that you will be hit by some missile or drone in Kyiv

Starting point is 00:13:06 is not much bigger than you will die in a car accident. So it's not like... I mean, even when they were a few weeks ago massively shelling Kyiv with drones and missiles, I mean, there were maybe... I don't remember the number, but it was something like 50 people killed in one day. I mean, like in in some suburbs of Chicago, like at one weekend can die like 100 people.

Starting point is 00:13:36 I mean, like we have the same mortality in some of much better developed countries than Ukraine in one day. Which it is going gonna say two things one as an american just hearing somebody who's actively trying not to be killed by russian artillery comparing their situation to chicago and being like it could be worse very interesting but also secondly it kind of made me realize like how much we acclimate and normalize what we're going through is by no means a one-to-one comparison but it's kind of interesting to see how like americans have just accepted that thousands of covid deaths every week is normal. And that is not some weird rarity. You have people that are literally under fire from Russia, like the regular missile strikes are a

Starting point is 00:14:13 part of their day and they're like, still, I got to work though. Even extremes become just part of life. But also I want to be careful while mentioning that and really note, I'm not trying to downplay the effect of the war or compare the two as even remotely equal with vitality explaining that many people are still just they're mentally exhausted they're trying to feed and protect their families in an absolutely horrible situation and that's without mentioning the psychological toll that's going to be left on the population long after the fighting stops so if you're talking about stress i feel that whole the nation will have something like ptsd after the war because like it's actually pretty you know traumatic experience and the bombardment of kiev has ramped up

Starting point is 00:14:52 considerably in recent weeks since ukraine blew up an important bridge connecting crimea to mainland russia when they started shelling kiev with these drones and like with like cruise missiles they didn't hit a lot of infrastructure here uh so it was just a few few places in the center of the city where they really destroyed the building or hit the road or something else but like it didn't have any huge impact the only impact you feel here is that the problems with electricity. They try to destroy Ukrainian electricity plants and they really, they've hit some of them. So right now we will, we don't have electricity for a few hours in a day. Yevatali said the feeling among most of the people is one of excitement because unlike early on in the war when they feared that a Russian siege of the capital might cut off food supplies,

Starting point is 00:15:47 now they find themselves reinvigorated by Ukraine's breakthrough counter-offensives and he believes that even if Russia used nuclear weapons, people would keep on fighting. Which is also why he says any efforts to reopen diplomatic negotiations for some kind of settlement or a ceasefire, they appear futile at this point. I think that people are very far from it. earn $1,100 in average value each year. The PC Insider's World's Elite MasterCard. The card for living unlimited. Conditions apply to all benefits. Visit pcfinancial.ca for details. Value is for illustrative purposes only. When does fast grocery delivery through Instacart matter most?

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Starting point is 00:17:00 Instacart. Groceries that over-deliver. Even thinking about any kind of compromise. Instacart. Groceries that over-deliver. is a good chance that they will destroy enough, like, different plants who produce warm water to, you know, to heat the houses. So probably, like, we will need to, I don't know, you know, to sleep in the sleeping bags for this winter. But that's okay. I mean, like, we can survive one winter to, you know, to just make them go away forever. And Vitale ended by adding that international aid has been crucial in repelling Russian forces, but more is needed, as well as recommending some specific charities if you personally want to help. Come Back Alive is one he created himself, and it funds the armed forces. Or for more humanitarian ones, there's Nova Ukraine,

Starting point is 00:17:57 Razum for Ukraine, and United24. But for now, that's where I'm going to end this. Obviously, we're going to keep our eyes on what's happening with Russia and Ukraine. We're going to continue talking about it at a top level, but I also think it is important to actually talk to individuals on the ground. I don't think that it's a one or the other situation. I think you need both to fully understand things. And then, did you know that two out of three guys will experience some form of male pattern baldness by the time that they're 35? Maybe you have that friend, that family member that's dealing with hair loss. And well, thanks to the sponsor of today's show, Keeps, you don't have to just sit around and wait for that to happen to you.

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Starting point is 00:19:08 there. With that being Hadis Najafi, a 23-year-old TikToker. She filmed herself on her way to a protest saying, I hope in a few years, when I look back, I will be happy that everything has changed for the better. But then, less than an hour later, police reportedly shot and killed her. And her family said that the authorities actually threatened them to say that her cause of death was natural. Basically the same thing that happened to Amini. so she's become a symbol in the demonstrations. With her and sister also inviting people to a 40-day memorial at Najafi's grave, marking the end of the mourning period, which is culturally significant for Iranians. And this morning we saw thousands of people showing up, marching along the highway toward the cemetery,

Starting point is 00:19:39 while shouting, Death to the dictator! It was with the government shutting down roads, leading there in anticipation for this event, but then the huge crowd still made it to the cemetery where they were met by police, who witnesses say brutalized them, deploying tear gas, firing live ammunition, and even slashing some with a machete. Where you can hear gunfire in the video obtained by the BBC, you also had some protesters fighting back, throwing rocks at the police and breaking car windows. Currently, we don't have any idea of the casualties yet, but nationwide, you have a human

Starting point is 00:20:04 rights group saying Wednesday that 277 people, including 40 children, have died since the protests began, which is an absolutely staggering figure given how little time it's been, but it only seems to be adding fuel to the fire. With one chant at the cemetery being, each protester killed will be replaced by 1,000 more. And if that does continue to happen, there are concerns that the regime could get more desperate, which then could lead them to taking even more extreme actions to shore up their legitimacy. But also, here's a key thing. All of this is coming at a time where Saudi Arabia has shared what it calls

Starting point is 00:20:29 credible intelligence with the United States, warning of an imminent attack against the kingdom by Iran. That was on Tuesday. Iran has denied the accusation, though the U.S. threatened to respond if necessary. And as far as why they would launch an attack, there are accusations that it would be connected to the protests. Just last month, the commander of the Revolutionary Guard demanded that Saudi Arabia clamp down on its coverage of the protests through satellite media, saying, this is our last warning because you are interfering in

Starting point is 00:20:51 our internal affairs through these media. So is it a bluff? Is it not? Is it meant to distract from what's happening in Iran? What is going to happen with the protests in Iran? A lot of questions, and unfortunately, we have to wait to see what is going to happen next. And then the man accused of attacking Paul Pelosi and trying to kidnap Nancy Pelosi reportedly was in the U.S. illegally, with Homeland Security officials confirming that the man is a Canadian national and that ICE has lodged a detainer on him. With that being a notice that the agency intends to take custody of an individual

Starting point is 00:21:17 who could be deported and a request to be notified before that person is released. Though, that detainer likely won't impact the case against him because deportations are civil proceedings that happen after criminal cases are resolved. Right, so as far as what else we know, federal records indicate the suspect came to the U.S. legally via Mexico in March of 2008, where Canadians who travel to America for business or pleasure are usually able to stay in the country for six months without a visa. DHS saying the man was admitted to the country as a temporary visitor traveling for pleasure. Though, notably here, before the confirmation from DHS, there was also mixed reporting on how long this guy had been in the States.

Starting point is 00:21:46 You had a U.S. official telling the Associated Press that he had legally entered in 2000, but stayed way after his visa expired. You had the New York Times reporting that he was registered to vote in San Francisco County from 2002 to 2009, and even voted once in 2002. Now, all of that could technically mean that he had various different visas at different times, but the fact of the matter is, the man is here illegally, and that's pretty fucking wild. The same guy who embraced far-right conspiracies about US politicians and told investigators he wanted to break the House Speaker's kneecaps as a lesson to other Congress members isn't even an American. This is the same guy that allegedly told police he was on a suicide mission and had a list of state and federal lawmakers

Starting point is 00:22:17 he wanted to target. Which is just as a side thing, I saw someone else commenting on it, but it's very true. It's always wild to me that there are these corners of the internet where you have people like riling each other up to commit violence, like political violence. But then when seemingly one of them does it, everyone's like, it's a false flag. He's not one of us. He's part of the deep state. Meanwhile, this new revelation regarding what happened to the Pelosi's comes amid tons of discussions over the safety and security of lawmakers at a time of increased threats. With a key thing here being a lot of focus on the Capitol Police. This after it was reported earlier this week that Capitol Police security cameras that were trained on Pelosi's house actually captured the attack, but no one was watching them. With the agency saying in a statement yesterday that its command

Starting point is 00:22:51 center has access to around 1,800 cameras, but not all are watched constantly. Adding that Pelosi's home is actively monitored around the clock when she's there, but not when she's in Washington. Which is why you've seen many people arguing that there should be more security and surveillance, especially on the second person in line for the presidency. And especially given the threat of violence after January 6th and warnings from law enforcement ahead of the midterms. And that was echoed in a scathing letter yesterday sent to Capitol Police by Representative Zoe Lofgren, who is one of the most senior Democrats in Congress and heads the administration committee. With Lofgren even noting that the agency has previously reported to the committee

Starting point is 00:23:20 that the Speaker receives the most threats of any member of Congress. And asking why that protection was not extended to the spouses and or other family members of the congressional leaders in the presidential line of succession. With this, also posing a number of very hard-hitting questions, like why did the agency turn down an FBI offer for some of its officers to be part of terrorism task forces investigating threats against Congress members, why they hadn't made a formal agreement with local police in San Francisco for a car to be posted at the Pelosi's home 24 hours a day, which had been done in the months after the insurrection, asking why the Capitol Police did not direct more threats to lawmakers for prosecution, noting that Congress members

Starting point is 00:23:51 received at least 9,625 threats in 2021, but only 217 were referred. That is where we are, and we'll have to wait to see where we're going. And then the Parkland shooter just got 34 consecutive life sentences without parole, with the judge dishing out one for each of the 17 people that he murdered and the other 17 that he injured. But with this, many parents, siblings, and children of the victims are disappointed by the outcome because they wanted a death sentence. Some even urging Florida lawmakers to get rid of the rule requiring a unanimous jury decision for capital punishment. Something, actually, that Governor DeSantis has signaled he might support. And y'all, I mean, I don't know if you saw this, but the families and survivors this week,

Starting point is 00:24:24 they were just pouring out their grief and their rage in the courtroom, actually getting to directly confront the gunman. And if you watch these clips, you don't just get a glimpse of their pain. It's so raw, you can feel it. I could sit here and complain as he has that I've had a hard life. I was bullied in school. I've lost 15 family members and loved ones since I turned nine to sickness, suicide, accident, and now murder. Not once have I ever turned to hurting others as a solution to make me feel better because I'm not a coward and I'm not weak. I wish no peace for you. I wish nothing but pain. And I hope that every breath you take you remember that that's a breath you stole.

Starting point is 00:25:14 You don't know me, but you tried to kill me. You are a revolting entity. I am broken. I am broken and I am broken. My brother Chris, on February 14th, died a hero. You, however, you will die as nothing, because you are nothing. I wish nothing for you today. After today, I don't care what happens to you.

Starting point is 00:25:39 You'll be sent to jail, you'll be given your punishment, you'll be a number, and for me, you will cease to exist. Parkland murder, I hope your maker sends you directly to hell to burn for the rest of your eternity. You also saw some of them blasting the gunman's defense for presenting him as mentally ill after his mother drank while she was pregnant, with one juror citing that as the reason they voted against capital punishment. But with all of that, there appears to be no more with this case, and this killer, this monster, will now live in a box for the rest of his life. And personally, I will say it does break my heart that some of these

Starting point is 00:26:13 families and these victims, they're not going to get closure because they felt that capital punishment was the way for them to get it. But also, what breaks my heart more is even if that did happen, it doesn't remove the pain. Personally, stories like this, they make me wish that I was a religious man, that I believed that there was an eternity of suffering waiting this monster. But more than that, I wish for peace and a good life for those survivors and those families. Even with justice or a sense of it, I can realize that there's no replacing the joy and the life and the experiences you will no longer be able to have

Starting point is 00:26:46 because of this fucking monster. But I do hope you find peace because he is not deserving of taking that away from you as well. And that is where that story and today's show end. Thank you for watching, especially if you're part of the conversation down below, which, reminder, the next time I'm gonna see you

Starting point is 00:26:58 is on Sunday with that brand new community show. You better go watch it. I've been filming while I'm sick this week. But as always, my name's Philip DeFranco. You've just been filled in. I love yo faces and I'll see you Sunday.

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The Philip DeFranco Show - PDS 11.3 What Logan Paul vs Andrew Tate Really Shows Us, Elon, Twitter, AOC, Bo Burnham, Ukraine, Iran & More

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