The Philip DeFranco Show - PDS 11.6 Donald Trump Won. What Now?

Episode Date: November 6, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Donald J. Trump will be the 47th president of the United States of America following a decisive victory last night in the 2024 presidential race. Also, he will have a Republican Senate in his corner, and we will know relatively soon if he will have a Republican House. So today, let's talk about what happened,
Starting point is 00:00:15 how, why, and what's next, especially amid the wildly different reactions to the news that we're seeing, and for good measure, we're gonna hit on how all this connects to the numerous ballot measures we saw across the country. And so to start, I'll say last night, Donald Trump's victory was historic.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Four years after being voted out of office, Donald Trump became the second president to ever win non-consecutive terms. And he's actually the first ever felon to be elected to the presidency. And this is we wait for all of the votes to get tallied because he may have actually also won the popular vote, which of his individual vote count holds,
Starting point is 00:00:42 it will be the first time in two decades a Republican's won the popular vote. And you know, last night, pretty early on, things were already not looking hot for Harris. And it started with the little things. Like we had talked about in the past, Virginia was a key state to look at. Because while she was always expected to win there, it was very important to see, you know, is her lead something closer to Hillary Clinton or Biden? And unfortunately for her, it was Clinton numbers. We also saw things like in Iowa where a pollster, Ann Selzer, just kind of got slapped around. She's been considered one of the top pollsters
Starting point is 00:01:06 in the country who is, or at least was, famous for her accuracy. With her before the election making the shocking prediction that Harris would beat Trump by 3%. But Trump, he ended up actually beating Harris by more than 13% with almost all the votes counted as of recording, which was just so enormously off that Selzer's now saying that she's reviewing the data
Starting point is 00:01:21 to see where she went wrong. And so based off of those, along with a few other bellwethers, it was not surprising to see Trump absolutely dominate in the battleground states. The kind of final nail in the coffin being when the AP called Pennsylvania for Trump about an hour and a half after it called Georgia for him.
Starting point is 00:01:34 So after that, he only needed three more electoral votes to win. And then he got more than that when the AP called Wisconsin for him early this morning. With Trump then knocking down that final chunk of the blue wall and successfully flipping Michigan. And this is technically the two remaining swing states,
Starting point is 00:01:45 Arizona and Nevada, as I'm filming. They haven't been called yet. But that's really more about seeing the final electoral count and whatever the popular vote is. And so with this, as far as why, while yes, in the coming days and weeks and for however long, people are gonna be playing the blame game,
Starting point is 00:01:58 pointing fingers while writing and filming retrospectives. I mean, if we just look at the data and we keep it simple, Trump increased his margins from 2020 to 2024 in pretty much every way he could. I mean, we're talking red states and blue states. New York moved 13 points towards him. You look at all these demographics, almost everything has a right-wing shift.
Starting point is 00:02:15 So with these results coming in, there's definitely been a lot of focus on the Latino vote as well as the young vote. And this, as exit polls showed, that if people voted Republican, the issues that mattered most in deciding how they voted for a president was the economy and immigration. But then, with all that, we saw Trump speaking to a crowd early this morning after his victory became clear. This was, I believe,
Starting point is 00:02:33 the greatest political movement of all time. There's never been anything like this in this country and maybe beyond. We have a country that needs help, and it needs help very badly. We're going to fix our borders. We're going to fix everything about our country. This will truly be the golden age of America. That's what we have to do. This is a magnificent victory for the American people that will allow us to make America great again. And from there, in addition to thanking the American people, he went on to acknowledge some of his most high-profile allies,
Starting point is 00:03:13 complimenting and congratulating J.D. Vance. And he is a feisty guy, isn't he? You know, I've said, go into the enemy camp. And you know, the enemy camp is certain networks and a lot of people don't like to serve do i have to do that he just goes okay which one cnn msdnc with vance then saying what trump had just accomplished was the greatest political comeback in the history of the united states of america and after the greatest political comeback in American history, we're going to leave the greatest economic comeback in American history
Starting point is 00:03:48 under Donald Trump's leadership. Trump then coming back, thanking his top campaign advisors, also shouting out Elon Musk. A star is born, Elon. He then spent a couple of minutes gushing about SpaceX's successful landing of its Starship rocket last month. And it came down so gently, and then it wrapped those arms around it and it held it. And just like you hold your baby at night, your little baby. And it was a beautiful thing to see. And I called Elon. I said, Elon, was that you? He said, yes, it was. I said, who else can do that? Can Russia do it? No. Can China do it? No. Can the United States do it other than you? No, nobody can do that.
Starting point is 00:04:28 I said, that's why I love you, Elon. And of course, all of this is Musk's been spending time and millions of dollars trying to get Trump elected. And actually with that, Musk's expected to have a position in Trump's administration. With Trump then thanking and giving the mic over to UFC CEO, Dana White,
Starting point is 00:04:40 who then himself gave shout outs. I wanna thank some people real quick. I wanna thank the Nelk boys, Aiden Ross, Theo Vaughn, Boston with the boys, and last but not least, the mighty and powerful Joe Rogan. With Trump then coming back and calling out RFK, who reportedly he's promised control of the public health agencies. And he's going to help make America healthy again. He wants to do some things and we're going to let him go to it. I just said, but Bobby, leave the oil to me. We have more liquid gold, oil and gas. We have more liquid gold than any country in the world, more than Saudi Arabia. We have more than
Starting point is 00:05:20 Russia. Bobby, stay away from the liquid gold. Other than that, go have a good time, Bobby. And actually on the health note part, RFK reportedly said today that entire departments within the Food and Drug Administration have to go. Saying to MSNBC, in some categories, there are entire departments, like the Nutrition Department at the FDA, that have to go, that are not doing their job.
Starting point is 00:05:41 They're not protecting our kids. And in that same interview, when RFK was asked if there are any vaccines he would take off the market, he replied, I'm not going to take away anybody's vaccines. With him further adding that it is about choice and people making their own informed individual decisions. But then with all that said,
Starting point is 00:05:53 as far as on the other side, right, Kamala Harris, she did not release a statement last night. Instead, we learned that today, she called Donald Trump to concede the election. With her reportedly congratulating him and discussing the importance of a peaceful transfer of power and being a president for all Americans. With a Trump campaign spokesperson saying
Starting point is 00:06:08 that he acknowledged Vice President Harris on her strength, professionalism, and tenacity throughout the campaign, and both leaders agreed on the importance of unifying the country. With then Vice President Harris speaking to the American people today, just before we uploaded the show. The outcome of this election is not what we wanted,
Starting point is 00:06:23 not what we fought for, not what we voted for. But hear me when I say, hear me when I say, the light of America's promise will always burn bright. But they're going on to emphasize the need to accept the outcome of the election and promising to engage in a peaceful transfer of power. A fundamental principle of American democracy is that when we lose an election, we accept the results. That principle, as much as any other, distinguishes democracy from monarchy or tyranny. And anyone who seeks the public trust must honor it. We owe loyalty not to a president or a party, but to the Constitution of the United States.
Starting point is 00:07:16 They're then concluding by vowing to continue fighting for what she believes in and encouraging her supporters not to give up. While I concede this election, I do not concede the fight that fueled this campaign. I will never give up the fight for a future where Americans can pursue their dreams, ambitions, and aspirations. Where the women of America have the freedom to make decisions about their own body and not have their government telling them what to do. We will never give up the fight to protect our schools and our streets from gun violence. And America, we will never give up the fight for our democracy. The fight for our freedom will take hard work. But like I always say, we like hard work. And the fight for our country is always worth it. And while in a minute, we're gonna continue down this road,
Starting point is 00:08:21 we're gonna be talking about what is next. I gotta ask, with everything we've covered so far, what are your thoughts with this news? But then, to take a quick break from the news, you know, it sucks when your doctor isn't in your network any longer. Or like me, you've moved away from your doctor. Because we all know how frustrating it is to search, call around, and wait,
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Starting point is 00:09:40 changes that we're going to see in the country if he follows through on the things that he's been saying. And since he's talked about a great number of things while on the campaign trail, I'm just going to limit it to two things today and that is tariffs and deportations. First, regarding tariffs, you have outlets like Axios noting that Trump has floated a 10% or 20% tariff on all imported goods into 60% tariff on Chinese imports if he reclaims the White House. And while Donald Trump has held up tariffs as one of the greatest things ever invented, saying that it's going to solve a lot of the problems that people have, especially regarding costs.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Reportedly, in a recent Wall Street Journal survey of 39 economists, not one expert polled approved of Trump's plan to put tariffs on all imported goods. And this is, there also seems to be kind of a general misunderstanding among some regarding what tariffs do. But as Axios notes, Trump is right that tariffs
Starting point is 00:10:19 can raise revenue for the governments imposing them, but saying he's wrong when he claims they only punish manufacturers abroad. They can also hurt US companies and consumers. Right in that, because let's say you're importing something from China. China is not paying the tariff. The American is paying the tariff,
Starting point is 00:10:33 with that extra added cost affecting Americans in one of several ways. One, the person importing can raise the price of the product that they're selling, which is then costing the consumer more money and possibly the person that's selling the product gets fewer sales. They could also keep their price the same, but make less profit. Or, and this appears to be Trump's thinking,
Starting point is 00:10:47 they then work with an American manufacturer or, depending on what the tariffs are for specific countries, a different country than China. And this is the Biden administration, as reports note, kept and even expanded some of Trump's tariffs and adding President Biden also imposed his own tariffs, for example, on Chinese electric vehicles and batteries. And those specific tariffs have been more widely seen as a way to try to limit the damage that China's trying to do to American markets. And the way that those tariffs are often explained is as a defensive move, a way to combat China from driving out U.S. competitors and dominating entire industries by setting below market prices. Think of it kind of like trying to fight off a Walmart that's going
Starting point is 00:11:20 to put all the other shops around it out of business, though, I guess on a global scale. And as far as the mom and pop shop. We're talking about US industries and it's also not that simple, right? Then you have to worry about retaliatory tariffs. And actually with all this, as far as the impact, there was a 2019 study that estimated that by the end of 2018,
Starting point is 00:11:37 import tariffs were costing US consumers and the firms that import foreign goods an additional $3 billion per month in added tax costs. With Axios also noting that the study found that tariffs were allowing U.S. producers to increase their prices because they face less foreign competition. Though again, we're going to have to wait and see what specific things Donald Trump does after he takes over the presidency. And that also is true regarding deportations. Because according to Axios, a source familiar with Trump's plan had said that if elected, Trump wants to mobilize ICE agents along with the FBI, DEA, federal prosecutors,
Starting point is 00:12:05 the National Guard, and even state and local law enforcement officers to carry out deportations of undocumented immigrants. There would also be fast-track deportations, which is something that's been limited to recent border crossers. But reportedly it would be expanded to apply to anyone who illegally crossed the border
Starting point is 00:12:18 and couldn't prove they'd been living in the US for more than two years. It also being reported that Trump would curtail the usual multi-step deportation process here by using an obscure section of the 1798 Alien and Seditions Act to immediately round up and deport migrants with criminal histories. And Axios saying connected to that,
Starting point is 00:12:31 the military would build massive sites near the border to hold people awaiting deportation. All of this, if implemented, of course, would look very different state by state. In Texas, for example, Donald Trump would likely have a lot of support at the state level. The same, at least to some degree, possibly said for Florida and Georgia, and I also mentioned those three specifically, is because reportedly
Starting point is 00:12:47 in just those three states, there are 2.9 million undocumented immigrants. But then it's very likely you'd see a drastically different situation in a state like California. Right, Axios noting likely pushback in Democratic-led states with well-organized Latino advocacy groups in sanctuary cities. And then all of this, you know, it could have economic implications. With among other things being generally understood that illegal immigrants actually, you know, help play a role in easing inflation and helping the economy avoid a recession after the pandemic. People also pointing to how deportation can actually hurt local economies. Axios, for example, noting in 2011, for example, unpicked crops rotted in Alabama after the state passed a harsh anti-immigrant
Starting point is 00:13:19 bill. But however this would look or play out, I mean, it's massive news because it's believed there are around 10 and a half million undocumented immigrants in the country. But for now, regarding these two things and a number of things we're gonna talk in the days and weeks to come, we're gonna have to wait to see what actually happens. What was said on the campaign trail
Starting point is 00:13:34 on that road to the White House, and then what does it actually look like when the administration is in power? Broad strokes, the core, the nooks and cranny, all of it. And then, as promised, let's talk about ballot measures. Because while everyone was also voting for candidates or against candidates and the numerous things they represent or say they stand for, individual ballot measures
Starting point is 00:13:51 show us exactly what people think on a specific topic. There's no calculus that needs to be done of, oh, I don't like this policy, but I like this one, ah, lesser than two evils, oh, this. And so we'll start here with one of the hot button topics of this election cycle, and that is abortion. Right, and that because 10 states has here asked voters whether they should lock in abortion rights
Starting point is 00:14:07 into their state constitutions. And what we saw is that in seven of those states, the measures passed. First, there's places like Maryland, Montana, Nevada, and New York, where abortion's already legal, and the passing of this measure is really just to ensure that it can't be messed with in the future. Then in Colorado, there were already no gestational limits,
Starting point is 00:14:20 and their passing measure allows public funds to be used towards abortion, meaning that the path is now clear there for the state to potentially cover abortion under Medicaid and some state employee health insurance plans. But then you also had other states using their reproductive rights measures
Starting point is 00:14:31 as ways to overturn existing abortion restrictions. Like in Missouri, which currently has a near total abortion ban with no exceptions, even for cases of rape and incest. But now with their right to reproductive freedom amendment passing with 53% support, according to the AP, things are changing. With that amendment enshrining the right
Starting point is 00:14:44 to make all decisions regarding reproductive healthcare without government interference. And with that, according to the AP, things are changing. With that amendment enshrining the right to make all decisions regarding reproductive healthcare without government interference. And with that, you had Rachel Sweet, the campaign manager of Missourians for Constitutional Freedom, adding in a statement, "'Today, Missourians made history and sent a clear message. "'Decisions around pregnancy, including abortion, "'birth control, and miscarriage care,
Starting point is 00:14:58 "'are personal and private and should be left up "'to patients and their families, not politicians.'" Also, in Arizona, you had a similar story with Prop 139 passing, which secures the right to abortion until fetal viability in the state's constitution. And that passing with 62% support, meaning that Arizona's existing 15 week ban will be overturned.
Starting point is 00:15:14 But every one of these measures did not pass. Like in Florida, for example, they had Amendment 4 that would have made clear that no law can, quote, "'prohibit, penalize, delay, or restrict abortion before viability,' which key thing, would have overturned the six week abortion ban that went into effect back in May. And while Amendment 4 did get the majority of the votes,
Starting point is 00:15:30 reporting 57% support, Florida has a constitutional requirement of a 60% majority in order to pass an amendment. Which is why you had Lauren Brenzel, the campaign director for the Yes on 4 campaign saying, the reality is because of Florida's constitution, a minority of Florida voters have decided Amendment 4 will not be adopted. The reality is a majority of Floridians just voted
Starting point is 00:15:46 to end Florida's abortion ban. But then, way more decisively, in South Dakota, the AP says that 61% of voters rejected Amendment G, an amendment that would have overturned the state's current abortion ban and guaranteed the right to an abortion without restriction in the first trimester, with it then also allowing abortion
Starting point is 00:15:59 with escalating restrictions further into the pregnancy. But then finally, here we'll talk about Nebraska. Right in that, because they had two separate reproductive rights measures on the ballot this year. One, that would have legalized abortion until viability or when medically necessary. And then two, right, the other, that would enshrine the existing 12-week ban
Starting point is 00:16:13 in the state's constitution, restricting abortion to the first trimester except in cases of rape, incest, or medical emergencies. And with that, if you think that it's confusing that there were dueling ballots, yeah, it led to a lot of confusion. In the lead up to the election, you had organizers for each measure
Starting point is 00:16:25 accusing the other of using misleading tactics to trick voters. And in fact, this last summer, the Nebraska Secretary of State's office said they received nearly 100 affidavits from voters asking for their names to be removed from an abortion petition that they had been misled into signing.
Starting point is 00:16:36 With notably the majority of those at the time asking to have their names scrubbed from the petition, supporting the 12-week ban. But then, the key thing, on election day, that's the one that got the most votes. With the reportedly getting 53% of the vote compared to just 49% for the until viability measure. But then also regarding other ballot measures
Starting point is 00:16:51 that are getting nationwide attention, we have marijuana legalization. Right in that, because there were three states with measures on the ballot to legalize recreational marijuana. Specifically Florida and both Dakotas with the no votes in the Dakotas taking it by a good margin, 53% in North Dakota and 56% in South Dakota.
Starting point is 00:17:05 And then in Florida, that 60% rule claimed another victim. With Amendment 3, which would legalize weed recreationally for people 21 and over getting 56% support, not hitting the 60% threshold. And in fact, the only state that ended up passing marijuana legislation yesterday was Nebraska, with the folks there passing Initiative 437 to legalize medical marijuana with 71% of the vote.
Starting point is 00:17:22 And that, along with Initiative 438 to establish a Nebraska Medical Cannabis Commission to regulate the medical marijuana program. But then taking a quick break from the news, you know, y'all, I know that you care about accessing free internet safely and keeping your digital life secure. And so with that, I gotta ask some of you,
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Starting point is 00:18:30 or click the link in the description down below. But then, you know, when we think of lead poisoning in the United States, maybe we think of leaded gasoline or lead paint, but usually the worst example that comes to mind is the water in Flint, Michigan. Which, you know, it makes sense. It was a horrible criminal disaster that'll never be undone. But what if I were to tell you that what water in Flint, Michigan. Which, you know, makes sense. It was a horrible criminal disaster that'll never be undone.
Starting point is 00:18:45 But what if I were to tell you that what happened in Flint, something considered extreme for the United States, is actually the norm for much of the rest of the world. In fact, even that's too generous. For the majority of the world's children, what happened in Flint is 10 times better than what's happening to them right now. Because at the height of Flint's water crisis,
Starting point is 00:19:01 one in 20 children there had elevated blood lead levels. But in low and middle income countries, half of all children or an estimated 800 million of them, they have elevated blood lead levels, according to UNICEF and the nonprofit Pure Earth. So comparatively, lead poisoning in the poorer parts of the world, it's a massively bigger issue,
Starting point is 00:19:16 yet surprisingly, it's also easier to solve. Right, because while in the US, cleaning up lead means digging up and replacing tons of old pipes, or something that'll cost tens of billions of dollars, in poorer countries, it usually means making relatively simple adjustments to how certain products are made,
Starting point is 00:19:29 which often cost just millions of dollars. And so with this, let's take a look at one of the most famous examples of this, Bangladesh. Right, and one character that you need to know about is Jenna Forsyth, a then PhD student at Stanford. Right, because in 2014, as she explained to NPR, her advisor gave her data showing that around half of a sample of over 400 pregnant women
Starting point is 00:19:45 in rural Bangladesh, they had high levels of lead in their blood. So tagging along with some other researchers, Forsyth hopped on a plane to go investigate. But when they got there and they interviewed these pregnant women, they just couldn't figure out where all this lead was coming from. They suspected agricultural pesticides,
Starting point is 00:19:58 but sampling hundreds of agrochemicals, it turned up nothing. Then they tried lead paint, but the women lived in primarily unpainted tin homes, so that wasn't it. So then, you know, how about lead soldering on cans, right? That can flake off into the food. Except whatever amount of lead that did contribute, it wasn't enough to explain the data they had.
Starting point is 00:20:12 I mean, they tested every guest they had, soil, water, rice, but nothing came up. So Forth's site went back to the drawing board, meaning she dug up older research for any clues. And in one small study of 28 kids, she found the answer hiding in plain sight, turmeric. But if you've ever had curry, this bright yellow spice is what gives it
Starting point is 00:20:28 its iconic golden hue. I mean, it's one of the most common ingredients in South Asian cuisine. So the idea that it was poisoning people, it came as a shock. Before Scythe and her team, they tested turmeric powder and turmeric roots from local markets and both contained the same amount
Starting point is 00:20:38 of lead found in the pregnant woman's blood. And so then the next step was to figure out how lead was getting into the roots to begin with. And so after talking with farmers, they learned that it all went back to the 1980s when a major flood fucked everything up. Right, all of a sudden the turmeric roots, they wouldn't dry properly in the sun.
Starting point is 00:20:51 So they turned a blackish color instead of their usual yellow. And so the farmers at the time, they did what they thought made sense. They polished their crops with the cheapest yellow pigment available at the time, lead chroming. Right, because at the marketplace, those brighter roots, they sold better.
Starting point is 00:21:02 So even after the flood waters receded, farmers then just kept up the practice. But it also wasn't limited to Bangladesh, right? These lead-contaminated spices, they spread across and beyond South Asia, including with India, Pakistan, and Nepal. And that being just one source of global lead exposure. But there were also many others. From house paint, makeup, pots and pans, to cookware, glazes, and improperly recycled batteries.
Starting point is 00:21:21 And this is the consequences have been nothing short of enormous. It's estimated that lead kills some 1.5 million people every year. And then, I mean, there's disability and disease, which especially impairs children, or with about 20% of the academic gap between upper income and lower income countries' kids being attributed to lead. And then also, I mean, if you want to put a dollar figure on it, the World Bank has estimated that the yearly global cost of lead exposure, including low IQ points, premature deaths, and welfare expenditures, it's $6 trillion, or 7% of the entire world's GDP. But none of this is deaths, and welfare expenditures, it's $6 trillion, or 7% of the entire world's GDP.
Starting point is 00:21:46 But none of this is inevitable, and Bangladesh proved it. Because in 2019, Forsyth and her team took their findings to the country's food safety authority, and the government, they didn't hesitate, with officials then putting out public notices in the top newspapers, warning the public and vendors not to buy the brightly colored turmeric. They also distributed 50,000 educational flyers
Starting point is 00:22:02 across the country, as well as directly alerting major turmeric farmers and organizing workshops with mill owners. And then just to make sure everybody got the message, they pulled off a dramatic demonstration of how fucking serious they were. With the government inviting television crews to the main spice market in the capital
Starting point is 00:22:16 to broadcast what happened next. With officials whipping out these devices that looked like radar guns and scanning every vendor's turmeric for lead contamination. How they even had a judge there to issue rulings right on the spot in a so-called mobile court. And so when all was said and done there, the government confiscated nearly 2000 pounds of turmeric
Starting point is 00:22:30 and they dished out tons of fines. And since then, Forsyth tells NPR that the share of turmeric samples testing positive for lead, it has dropped from 47% to 0%. I mean, it is a textbook case of an effective public health intervention that took relatively few resources to accomplish. And the thing is, we know that these results
Starting point is 00:22:46 can be replicated because other countries have done it as well. Right, Georgia, the country, not the state, also had a lead poisoning crisis. It was back in 2019 and it affected some 40% of children ages two to seven. But then in just two years, researchers identified the problem.
Starting point is 00:22:57 Lead chromate was being used to polish the color of spices, just like in Bangladesh. So the government intervened to clean up the supply chain. And now, lead is almost completely gone from the spice market there. Or take Malawi as another example, where it was just $300,000 in donor funding. The country cleaned up half the market for lead paint
Starting point is 00:23:10 and the other half is committed to phasing out lead by the end of this year. And in case after case, the formula is generally the same. You conduct national blood surveys, test consumer products for lead contamination, design regulations, and then enforce those laws and monitor producers. But given how far each dollar spent on this problem goes towards fixing it, you would
Starting point is 00:23:26 also be surprised to learn how little we invest as a species. According to Samantha Power, administrator of the US Agency for International Development and Alexander Berger, CEO of Open Philanthropy, the yearly global funding for tackling lead poisoning in developing countries totals just 15 million dollars, the cost of a single 60-second ad at the Super Bowl. Or rather, that was the total until now. Because UNICEF and USAID have announced a new $150 million initiative to combat lead poisoning in the third world, with that money being distributed across more than a dozen countries. But eventually, those funds will run out.
Starting point is 00:23:53 So what really matters is that awareness of this issue snowballs until the money keeps flowing for the long term. So I guess the main point is, I am just spreading the word because I am a hero. Yeah, that is a note I'm ending on. But of course, with all that said, I'd love to know your thoughts on any and all of what we talked about today.
Starting point is 00:24:07 I love you faces, stay safe out there and I'll see you right back here tomorrow.

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