The Philip DeFranco Show - PDS 12.11 Youtube's New CRACKDOWN, iDubbbz Content Cop REMOVED, Viral Slapper Exposed, & More
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Sup you beautiful bastards, I hope you're having a fantastic Wednesday.
Welcome back to the Philip DeFranco Show.
I'm Anthony Padilla and let's jump into it.
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It was horrible for audio and he refused to take them off.
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But with that said, buckle up, hit that like button
and let's just jump into it.
And the first thing we're gonna talk about today
is huge news regarding YouTube
and the future of online discourse.
So if you haven't seen, YouTube is over party,
is trending on Twitter, and that is in large part
due to YouTube's new policy change
when it comes to bullying and harassment.
In a new post today, they announced
that they were tightening the rules,
and after months of reviewing their policies
and seeing how they could be improved, they wrote,
"'Harassment hurts our community
by making people less inclined to share their opinions
and engage with each other.'
We heard this time and again from creators,
including those who met with us
during the development of this policy update."
Also saying they met with experts
from online bullying organizations,
free speech proponents, and organizations from all sides of the political spectrum.
And adding,
we remain committed to our openness as a platform
and to ensuring that spirited debate
and a vigorous exchange of ideas continue to thrive here.
However, we will not tolerate harassment
and we believe the steps outlined below
will contribute to our mission
by making YouTube a better place
for anyone to share their story or opinion.
And so to run through these,
we start with one of their first major changes,
which is taking a quote, stronger stance against threats and personal opinion. And so to run through these, we start with one of their first major changes, which is taking a quote,
"'Stronger stance against threats and personal attacks.'"
And in this regard, the policy already prohibited videos
with explicit threats in them,
but now that will also include veiled
or implied threats saying,
"'This includes content simulating violence
"'toward an individual or language suggesting
"'physical violence may occur.'"
And on top of threatening someone,
they say this will also cover what they call
demeaning language that crosses the line,
saying they will no longer allow, quote,
"'Content that maliciously insults someone
"'based on protected attributes such as their race,
"'gender expression, or sexual orientation.'"
Then the next thing YouTube addressed was consequences
for a pattern of harassing behavior.
YouTube saying that creators told them
that harassment sometimes stems from comments made
in a repeated series of videos or comments.
And so even though sometimes that individual video
or comment on its own does not violate YouTube policy,
to combat this, YouTube said,
"'Channels that repeatedly brush up
"'against our harassment policy will be suspended
"'from YouTube Partner Program,
"'eliminating their ability to make money on YouTube.'"
And with this, they say that content could be removed,
channels could receive strikes,
and or be removed in these cases.
And the last topic noted in this post was toxic comments.
Right, and so here they say that the policies outlined
will also apply to the comments section,
stating that in their third quarter,
YouTube removed 16 million comments violating their policy,
and this number will likely increase with these changes.
Also explaining they have newer tools
that they recently added for creators
to have some control over their comments.
This including one that allows creators to review comments
that YouTube thinks is inappropriate,
but is unsure if it violates policies.
And in the early stages of this rollout,
they said they saw a 75% reduction in user flags on comments
and most creators now have this setting.
Though here noting that creators can opt out of the tool
or simply ignore held comments.
And about these policies as a whole, YouTube said,
"'We expect there will continue to be healthy debates
"'over some of the decisions,
"'and we have an appeals process in place
"'if creators believe we've made the wrong call on a video.'"
Right, and so with all of this, you may be wondering,
you know, what prompted these changes?
Although probably a number of you hearing those changes
are thinking back to an instance we covered in the past,
that being the whole Carlos Maza, Vox,
Steven Crowder situation.
Right, it was earlier this year,
Maza, who hosted a Vox series at the time,
posted a Twitter thread calling Crowder out
for repeatedly calling him names on his show,
"'Louder with Crowder."
With this, he included a video
that was essentially a montage of Crowder talking about him.
It's code for rape, Mr. Queer Eating Chips
on the Vox channel.
Mm-hmm, chip, chip, chip, chip,
bet you can eat just one, like dicks.
This is what Mr. Gay Vox wants to do.
Mr. Let's Be Queer from Vox.
What were you holding, Gaylatito from Vox?
Even his hand movement in fast motion is gay.
And so this whole thing sparked an online debate
between creators, but also with major news outlets
covering the story, with Crowder among other things
saying this should not count as bullying.
As far as YouTube's response to the situation,
they responded to Mazza saying,
"'We take allegations of harassment very seriously,'
then saying, "'Our team spent the last few days
"'conducting an in-depth review of the videos flagged to us
"'and while we found language that was clearly hurtful,
"'the videos as posted don't violate our policies.'"
And further explaining in more tweets
that they want all their creators to express their opinions and that yes,
these opinions can be offensive,
but unless they violate policies, they remain online.
Also, the thing I want to note is I'm hyper simplifying,
you know, the things that happened in the past.
If you want to see the full coverage,
I'll link to it down below.
But with that said, as far as Mazza's reaction
to YouTube then, he said that YouTube was giving bigots
free license and saying all while YouTube was just using
a creator.
Timing was a note here.
This was the beginning of June, which is pride month. Right, so while YouTube was just using a creator. Timing was a note here, this was the beginning of June,
which is Pride Month, right?
So while YouTube was kind of celebrating Pride,
it was also seen as okaying what was perceived
as homophobic content.
But it also wasn't just Mazza that was angry
because YouTube also ended up suspending Crowder's revenue,
right, which was also another decision met
with massive criticism and backlash.
Right, but then we fast forward to today
and we see the changes being made,
the kind of explanations connected to it,
and it seems to be connected, which is why it was also interesting to see the changes being made, the kind of explanations connected to it, and it seems to be connected.
Which is why it was also interesting
to see the reactions of these two.
We saw Mazza tweeting a thread about it today,
saying the real problem is not the policies,
but the enforcement of these policies.
Especially because he says he finds that popular creators
like Crowder are exempt from the rules.
Also saying that demonetization as a punishment
is not effective because creators can make money elsewhere.
And closing by saying YouTube loves to manage PR crises
by rolling out vague content policies
they don't actually enforce.
These policies only work if YouTube is willing
to take down its most popular rule breakers.
And there's no reason so far to believe that it is.
Steven Crowder, for his part, has not said much
about the new rules since they came out
as of recording this video,
but did use the hashtag YouTubeIsOverParty.
He did post a video yesterday saying
that the YouTube purge is coming.
And there he talked about what was at stake
based on kind of murmurs and what was potentially known about the upcoming rules. And saying that the YouTube purge is coming and there he talked about what was at stake based on kind
of murmurs and what was potentially known about the upcoming rules and saying that he saw the new policies as something that could silence and negatively
Impact his channels and others like it. Obviously my heart goes out to if there are any future
conservatives or future
Independent voices who are affected because some people got their feelings hurt
But of course with all that said it's important to note that this is not just about these two
This is a massive change to one of the most notable websites
on the internet.
It is the second most trafficked website
on the entire internet.
A communication and entertainment hub.
Who else is going to get hit?
And this morning, it seems that we saw it hit
one of the more massive creators on the platform,
Ian Carter, AKA iDubbbz.
Who ended up tweeting out a screenshot
of an email from YouTube saying that one of his videos
had been removed for violating community guidelines.
With the caption, download your favorite bullying vids
before YouTube takes them down.
And the video in question was from his massively popular
content cop series, specifically one about a controversial
YouTuber by the name of Leafy.
The removal of his video made a number of people furious,
also people wondering how does this
actually break the rules.
All right, with people saying things like iDubbbz
gets his video taken down for bullying because he mocked a bully.
Isn't that ass backwards?
As far as my opinion, as far as that takedown,
maybe it's because the video is not fully fresh in my mind,
but I hate seeing that video being taken down.
Feels like a notable historic moment on YouTube
was just wiped from the internet.
I'd be interested to know as far as their specific reasoning,
if it had to do with,
I think I remember him making fun of his chin.
And I also think another creator on the platform, Eddie Burback, raised an interesting question after this, saying,
so let's pretend that YouTube removing the leafy content cop was fair. Is it okay for YouTube to
change its guidelines, then remove content that was posted before the change? If you follow YouTube's
rules in 2019 and they change them in 2030, should they remove all your content? To which, as of now,
it appears that YouTube's thinking around this is, yes, we would remove that content because regardless of if it was posted 10 years ago, they are still hosting
and showcasing a video in 2019 or whenever. But it appears that YouTube thinks that their give here
is while they're removing this now, they won't penalize channels now with things like strikes
because of previous content or for, it's usually like a 30-day grace period. Obviously, this is
still a developing story and we're seeing more and more creators kind of pressing YouTube on this
change. Creators like Nerd City was a fantastic YouTube channel saying, rap music with this is still a developing story and we're seeing more and more creators kind of pressing YouTube on this change.
Creators like Nerd City was a fantastic YouTube channel
saying, rap music with disses, political satire,
South Park protests that use effigies,
all of this now violates the new terms of service.
YouTube needs to reverse course on this policy.
It targets criticism that YouTube thinks it can lose,
but the rules are not compatible with human expression.
To which YouTube responded,
diss tracks, satire, and comedy are allowed.
We explain this in the exception section of the Help Center article. And on that dishtrack, satire, and comedy are allowed. We explain this in the exception section
of the Help Center article.
And on that page it notes scripted satire,
stand-up comedy, or music dishtrack.
Also noting this is not a free pass to harass someone
and claim, quote, I was joking.
But the obvious criticism there is are you saying
that YouTube is the final judge of what is supposed
to be comedy and isn't?
And it also naturally brings us back
to the content cop video being removed.
But ultimately that is where we are with this story right now. We have the announcement, kind of the first
glimpses at what's being hit. I'm going to keep my eyes open. And honestly, I'm somewhat nervous.
Like even for the next story that comes after today in awesome, I had to go back and change
the end of that video because I didn't know if I was now breaking YouTube policy. Yeah,
I just don't know. Everyone can have, including every company can have like the best of intention.
The actual implementation, that's a whole other thing.
But with all of that said, of course,
I pass the question off to you.
What are your thoughts on this story,
the changes, the impacts thus far?
Let me know in those comments down below.
And then let's talk about the situation
around Alex Bozargian.
Now for a large number of you,
you've probably never heard that name before though.
A number in there that are not familiar with her name
have seen her.
And that's because she was the Georgia reporter
who on Saturday was covering the annual Savannah Bridge run.
And in this now viral incident,
you see several participants waving at the cameras
as they ran by during the segment.
But then one decides that he is going to smack Alex
on her butt before sprinting away.
And in the clip, you see Alex visibly shocked
by what happened.
She tries to get back to her live report.
Right, and after that happens live,
a Twitter user shares a clip of the incident.
It quickly goes viral.
Alex herself eventually shares the post
with her own statement writing,
"'To the man who smacked my butt on live TV this morning,
"'you violated, objectified, and embarrassed me.
"'No woman should ever have to put up with this at work
"'or anywhere.
"'Do better.'"
And in general, the reaction online
where people just disgusted by the behavior of this man,
and it also received notable attention
from fellow reporters.
We also saw race officials quick
to condemn the runner's behavior
with the director of the Savannah Sports Council,
Robert Wells, telling Alex that the incident
was 100% unacceptable and said the organization
would identify the man.
We saw the organization following through the next day
with the organization announcing that it had banned
the runner from registering from all its future races.
That runner was also later identified by news outlets
and social media users as Tommy Calloway.
And it turns out he is a 43 year old married father of two
who is both a youth minister and a boy scout leader.
This reportedly according to his Facebook
and LinkedIn profiles.
Following being identified, Calloway's lawyer,
Joseph Turner, released a statement on his behalf on Monday
saying that his client is a loving husband
and a father who is very active in his community
and adding that Calloway was working with those involved
to correct the situation. But also drawing a line saying,
"'While we regret the situation,
"'Mr. Calloway did not act with any criminal intentions.'"
That said, on Tuesday, Alex appeared on CBS's This Morning,
where she confirmed that she had filed a police report
over this incident.
While on the show, she talks about the sting of the slap,
saying it had a heavy impact, saying of Calloway in the video,
"'He separates himself from the runners.
"'He kind of winds up, and you know he hit me hard.'" Also saying on the show that Calloway had the video, he separates himself from the runners. He kind of winds up and you know, he hit me hard.
Also saying on the show that Calloway had contacted
her news station and said,
his intentions were not, you know, to hurt me.
He didn't intend to do it, which, you know,
not gonna really debate that because he hurt me.
And since the video went viral,
she explained feeling guilty because of all the attention
that it received.
And while she noted that she has been met
with overwhelming support,
some have still blamed her for putting herself in quote,
the line of fire and for not accepting his apology
and just moving on.
Also when asked if she was open to hearing more
from Callaway, she said.
I think what is most important here is that he took my power
and I'm trying to take that back.
And whether I am open to it or not,
I wanna take my time with that.
And I think what it really comes down to
is that he helped himself to a part of my body.
That same day, we saw Callaway appear on Inside Edition
trying to further explain what happened from his point of view.
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I was getting ready to bring my hands up and wave to the camera and to the audience,
and there was a misjudgment in character and decision-making. I touched her back. I did not know exactly where I touched her. Calloway adding that he read her response and took her words to heart.
I totally agree 100% with her statement.
And the two most important words were her last two words, do better.
And that's my intention.
And as far as my reaction to this story, I think just a good, solid, general rule.
In general, keep your fucking hands to yourself.
And to a degree, it feels silly even having to say that.
This is something that you have to tell children.
It doesn't feel like you should have to tell it
to a grown ass person.
I think to those that don't think it's a big deal,
if let's say your wife, your girlfriend, your mother,
your daughter switched places with Alex,
would you still feel the same?
Because I know if that was someone I cared about,
it would be hard for me not to do something
that I cannot describe possibly
due to YouTube's new policies.
Nope, I actually deleted what I was gonna say.
Main point, I would be an unhappy Philip DeFranco.
But with all of that said,
of course I pass the question off to you.
What are your thoughts on this specific situation?
Are you of the mindset that you should just take the apology
and move on?
Or no, you think it's a good thing
that this is being broadcasted
and kind of continued as a teachable moment.
Also, what would you like to see happen with this story?
Obviously there are a number of people talking about
charges, they're talking about his job,
just things all over the place.
Yeah, just let me know what you're thinking
in those comments down below.
And then I want to share my favorite headline of the day.
And no, it is not from an Onion article.
Boris Johnson accused of hiding in fridge
in order to avoid interview with Piers Morgan.
Which I will say the image that popped in my head initially, hilarious.
But then seeing the reporting and the actual video connected to this event,
ah, even more hilarious, though for different reasons.
Alright, so essentially the situation is you have UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson.
He's visiting a business in Yorkshire called Modern Milkman.
And he's approached by a reporter from Good Morning Britain
who asks him to speak on live television.
And the first thing that cracked me up was the interaction with a Johnson aide. Prime Minister, will you come on Good Morning Britain who asks him to speak on live television. And the first thing that cracked me up was the interaction
with a Johnson aide.
Prime Minister, will you come on
Good Morning Britain, Prime Minister?
Oh!
Oh!
Oh!
I just had a reaction here from one of the minders.
Which is just so great.
The cameras then stick to the situation,
which just seems like a weird, odd mess.
And then finally we see this interaction.
Well, you have five minutes.
You're live on Good Morning Britain. Could you talk to Piers
and Susannah for me?
I'll be with you in a second. I'll be with you in a second.
Yep, I have an earpiece here in my hands, ready to go.
Right, he's been taken inside, into the fridge.
You've gone into the fridge?
There's a bunker.
Now, according to reports, sources from Johnson's Conservative Party stated that Johnson was
quote, categorically not hiding
and saying that he entered the fridge to prep
for a separate pre-agreed interview.
But all in all, it was just kind of this funny moment
that caught my eye and treat this as an appetizer
because of course in the UK, there is big news coming.
There's an election taking place there Thursday.
We'll see what parliament looks like afterward.
With of course, Brexit having been continually
up in the air there,
it'll be interesting to see what happens.
Now, according to one of the latest polls
from YouGov's MRP poll,
right of 100,000 UK voters,
it's predicted a 28 seat majority for Johnson's party.
And as Axios pointed out,
that would still be a solid victory,
but it's significantly down
from a projected 68 seat majority late last month.
But of course, when it comes to any election,
but also specifically with the UK,
who knows what's gonna happen in real life compared to the polling. So yeah, for now we'll have to wait and see. And of course, when it comes to any election, but also specifically with the UK, who knows what's going to happen in real life compared to the polling. So yeah, for now,
we'll have to wait and see. And of course, if you live there, you have family there,
of course, I'd love to know your thoughts on it. And then this morning, let's talk about Time
Magazine naming the 2019 Person of the Year, Greta Thunberg, the 16-year-old climate activist
from Stockholm, Sweden. And with this, she became the youngest individual to ever receive the honor,
which has been one recognized annually by the magazine
for over 90 years.
And as far as why, according to Times editor-in-chief,
when he was unveiling her,
he called her the biggest voice on the biggest issue
facing the planet this year
and saying that she embodies youth activism.
And Greta's rise has been interesting, right?
As many others have noted,
she essentially started as the solo protester
planted outside of Sweden's parliament.
She launched the Fridays for Future movement,
inspiring masses of people worldwide
to protest outside their local government buildings weekly,
demanding climate action.
In September, she stood before the UN Climate Action Summit
and delivered a passionate speech
to some of the planet's most powerful leaders.
People are suffering.
People are dying.
Entire ecosystems are collapsing.
We are in the beginning of a mass extinction,
and all you can talk about is money and fairy
tales of eternal economic growth.
How dare you?
And also connected to this, Greta, who's diagnosed with Asperger's, has spoken out about her
condition, even likening it to a superpower.
The timing of this award is also a little bit interesting.
Just yesterday you had Brazil's president J Bolsonaro, calling her a brat to reporters.
And his comment coming after Greta tweeted a video
on Sunday drawing attention to indigenous people
that are allegedly being murdered for their efforts
to protect the Amazon from illegal deforestation.
But with that said, as far as the reaction to this honor,
of course, you got what you expected.
A number of people praising Greta and Time,
as well as a number of critics saying
it should have gone to someone else
or just attacking Greta herself.
One of the main reactions that I was interested in was going to be that of Greta. You know,
in the past, we've seen her turn down an environmental award saying the climate movement
does not need any more awards. What we need is for our politicians and the people in power to
start to listen to the current best available science. What we ended up seeing this morning
is Greta thanking time for the recognition and declaring that she shares the honor with climate
activists everywhere. So essentially taking this not normally climate focused award, turning it inside out and making
it about the movement itself. Yeah, of course, with this, I'd love to know your thoughts on this
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