The Philip DeFranco Show - PDS 12.3 THIS IS A TRAIN WRECK! Joe Rogan, MatPat, HBO Max, & Melissa Carone's "Election Fraud" Mess

Episode Date: December 3, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Sup you beautiful bastards, hope you've had a fantastic Thursday. Welcome back to the Philip DeFranco Show. Buckle up, hit that like button, and let's just jump into it. And the first thing that we're going to talk about today involves entertainment news, and in fact the first story involves something I don't know if we've covered in a really long time. It is good news. So remember that Game Theorist charity stream that I pimped out earlier this week? Well, it happened. You had MatPat and Stephanie hosting a stream to raise money for St. Jude's Children's Research Hospital. Running for about 10 hours,
Starting point is 00:00:27 there were a ton of different giveaways, challenges, appearances by over 30 different creators, including MrBeast, Mark Rober, Markiplier, The Try Guys, Safiya Nygaard, Pokimane, and others. And the goal this year was to raise $1 million, but actually by the time they ended the stream, they amazingly raised over $3 million. And according to MatPat, YouTubers donated around $250,000 themselves to the stream.
Starting point is 00:00:50 Though the biggest donation of the stream coming from YouTube itself with CEO Susan Wojcicki dropping in and dropping a surprise $450,000 donation. But yeah, main thing, a huge congratulations to everyone involved here, amazing job. And also if you'd like to donate on top of what's already been earned, I'll link down below. And while this first story was something
Starting point is 00:01:10 to put a lot of smiles on a lot of faces, this other news had a lot of fans angry. It has finally happened, one of the biggest podcasts in the world, the Joe Rogan Experience this week has officially become exclusive to Spotify. And immediately we saw a not so happy reaction. It appears that the YouTube channel Powerful JRE
Starting point is 00:01:28 here on YouTube with over 10.2 million subscribers, it appears that that channel has now turned into a glorified archive of some of the past episodes and a current clips channel. With the end of those clips and the description trying to get people to go over and listen to the entire episode on Spotify. And immediately we saw a wave of people
Starting point is 00:01:45 saying they're leaving. It's been a hell of a ride guys, see ya. I'm not downloading Spotify, so I guess no more Joe Rogan. RIP Joe Rogan experience. Some also leaving negative comments about not liking the Spotify experience. Tried listening on Spotify. I can't handle the 10 straight minutes of ads
Starting point is 00:01:59 and having Joe read them just makes me suddenly able to totally tune out everything he says without even trying to. Sad times for me. Sad to say I'm not switching from YouTube premium to Spotify premium for one podcast. With some others also saying Spotify isn't available in their country or that they can't use a VPN. But for those of you out there that are like,
Starting point is 00:02:15 yes, now my podcast can fill in that void. Who knows if this will truly be detrimental for the future of this podcast. People who are outspoken of their dislike of something online do not always represent the majority or a very, very large group of people. Though as we've seen with other large creators who sign exclusive deals with,
Starting point is 00:02:31 it's usually a situation where it's a much smaller company. Viewership can be impacted, but this feels like it might be different because Spotify is not like just this tiny company. They appear to be in part trying to be the future of podcasts. So we'll see. And I mean, as far as Joe Rogan and Spotify,
Starting point is 00:02:46 I doubt that they're that concerned here. I personally don't believe that Joe Rogan's gonna lose a huge chunk of his audience. And I'm sure that he's like, ah, that risk is worth the 100 plus million dollars that he's gonna be getting from this deal and the future of his show. And as far as Spotify,
Starting point is 00:02:59 since the Joe Rogan experience became a Spotify exclusive, and it also probably is tied in with Spotify wrap that yearly thing that they do. Spotify stock actually jumped up around 15 to 16% when the Joe Rogan experience became exclusive this week. But hey, time will tell. And hey, if you are a fan of JRE, are you following it to Spotify?
Starting point is 00:03:17 Yes, no, why, why not? And then, you know, actually the final bit of entertainment news is the opposite of the Joe Rogan one. That was the taking away of options. You can only watch this here. We got the massive news today that Warner Bros will be sending their entire 2021 slate to HBO Max the same day each movie hits theaters.
Starting point is 00:03:34 This including Matrix 4, The Suicide Squad, Dune, Space Jam, A New Legacy, and then literally 13 more. Which, I mean, we knew that maybe studios were gonna play around with this idea. You know, we knew that maybe studios were going to play around with this idea. You know, we recently reported that on Christmas this year, Wonder Woman 1984, it's going to be released in theaters and on HBO Max.
Starting point is 00:03:51 You know, with this massive move from Warner Bros, it brings the question, one, will we see other studios follow this in some way? And two, can theaters in the United States survive this? So on that note, the chair and CEO of Warner Media Studios and Networks Group did say, "'No one wants films back on the big screen "'more than we do.
Starting point is 00:04:08 "'We know new content is the lifeblood "'of theatrical exhibition, "'but we have to balance this with the reality "'that most theaters in the US will likely operate "'a reduced capacity throughout 2021. "'With this unique one-year plan,' that being some of the key wording here, "'a unique one-year plan,
Starting point is 00:04:23 "'we can support our partners in exhibition "'with a steady pipeline of world-class films, while also giving moviegoers who may not have access to theaters or aren't quite ready to go back to the movies the chance to see our amazing 2021 films. We see it as a win-win. But, I mean, also let's be honest,
Starting point is 00:04:36 if HBO Max has massive success this year with this model, there's no reason to think that it's only a one-year plan. I mean, they as a studio and HBO Max as a pay subscription service, due to the general shittiness of the situation we're in, are getting a free one year trial period to test to see how many people they can get to pay and subscribe.
Starting point is 00:04:54 And personally, as I would say before this year, an avid moviegoer, someone that loves that, but also as someone that loves the idea of allow me to watch what I want, when I want, where I want, I love it, but as far as if this is a one year deal or it ends up being kind of the future of entertainment, we're gonna have to wait and see. Though, and understand this is just my opinion,
Starting point is 00:05:12 I highly doubt this is just a one year plan. I think it only turns into a one year plan if it's not as successful as they think it'll be. And then let's talk about, I mean, I don't even wanna refer to it as news about voter fraud because it's not news, it's kind of just a weird, insane mess. And specifically where I'll start here is with this video from the Michigan House of Representatives hearing
Starting point is 00:05:31 on voter fraud that went viral yesterday. That video, which as of recording here has more than 16 million views just on Twitter alone, features a definitely not drunk or on something woman by the name of Melissa Caron, who is an IT contractor for the election technology manufacturer, Dominion Voting Systems,
Starting point is 00:05:46 who claims to have witnessed poll workers at a voting center in Detroit counting thousands of ballots multiple times. And Caron was tapped by Trump's personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, last month to tell her story before the panel. And here is how part of it went. The poll book is completely off.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Completely off. Off by 30,000? I'd say that poll book is off by over 100,000. That poll book... Why don't you look at the registered voters on there? How many registered voters are on there?
Starting point is 00:06:19 Do you even know the answer to that? No, I guess it's... I'm trying to get to the bottom of this here. Zero. Zero. There's zero. So, my question then is if the- Guess how many, wait, what about, what about how, what about the turnout rate? 120%? If ballots were counted multiple times, there's two options. Option number one is that the poll book numbers are not going to match. They don't. The actual, not by thousands and thousands of votes. That's not what we see right now.
Starting point is 00:06:47 You take a look again. Take a look again. Option number two is that they essentially were filling in names of people who didn't vote. Dead people too? So is that your suggestion? Let's let Representative Johnson ask his question, and then when he's done. I thought that was his answer. My question is, we're not seeing the poll book off by 30,000 votes.
Starting point is 00:07:06 That's not the case. What did you guys do? Take it and do something crazy to it? I'm just saying the numbers are not off by 30,000 votes. I know what I saw. I know what I saw. And I signed something saying that if I'm wrong, I can go to prison. Did you?
Starting point is 00:07:24 I guess I just want to keep following back up with the poll book. So are we saying that the poll book is either wildly off or that they are filling in names? It's wildly off and dead people voted and illegals voted. So that's my answer. I think, you know, it's bad when you're on the same side
Starting point is 00:07:41 as Rudy Giuliani and he's like, chill out, chill out. But also there is a lot to unpack and debunk with this one. Okay, so first and foremost, it probably goes without saying that this woman has provided zero evidence for her claims. Right in that hearing, we see her first say that 30,000 votes have been counted multiple times, but then she just randomly changes that number to 100,000.
Starting point is 00:07:59 But as Representative Steven Johnson, who by the way, is Republican, explained in the video, if her claim was true, there would be a massive discrepancy between the total number of votes and the poll book, which tracks voters and ballot totals. But that was not the case at all. And so then when she's asked why these thousands
Starting point is 00:08:15 and thousands of votes that she claimed were counted multiple times were not reflected in the poll book, she appeared to accuse the Republican legislators of engaging in election fraud to help Biden this before seemingly going on to brag about the fact that she signed an affidavit. So what she's saying must be true.
Starting point is 00:08:28 But there are also three things here that make this highly questionable. First of all, it is true that she did sign an affidavit claiming she saw poll workers scanning ballots multiple times and that very same affidavit was included in a lawsuit filed by the Trump campaign. But that case was literally struck down by a judge who ruled that the testimonies from Carone
Starting point is 00:08:44 and other witnesses were incorrect and not credible. So when your star witness gets described in that way, probably not great for your argument. Secondly, she didn't provide a specific number of votes that she claims she saw double counted in that legal document. And very notably, during that hearing, despite objections from the panel's Democrats,
Starting point is 00:09:00 she was not under oath, meaning she couldn't be charged for lying at this hearing. So, and we're really only touching this because she was using it as part of her argument, because those specific numbers weren't in her affidavit, she could technically make up these figures completely before the panel without breaking any rules. Which brings us to the third point.
Starting point is 00:09:16 This woman has repeatedly pushed a number of bizarre claims in the last month. Right, in her affidavit, she also suggested that balance had been smuggled in vans sent to give food to poll workers. But when asked by Lou Dobbs what evidence she had of this, she said, The city provides the workers with food for their shift. Well, they only had enough food for one third of their workers.
Starting point is 00:09:40 So that is the reason why they were claiming that these vans were brought in. But these vans did not have food taken out of them. And the vans that showed up, they were supposed to be filled with food. What did they have in them? Do you know? I never saw anything being brought out of the vans. I know that whatever was being brought out of the vans was being brought out of the back of the vans,
Starting point is 00:10:12 but I was not allowed over in that area at all. But the vans were definitely not big enough to be carrying enough food for two thirds of those workers. Right, so she says that there was no food taken out of the vans, but then she says she didn't see what was in the van. So if you didn't see what was in the vans, how do you know it wasn't food?
Starting point is 00:10:29 And even more importantly, why would you assume it was a legal ballot? That is such a huge jump and literally her only, and I hate even associating this word with this person, evidence is one, that van showed up and she felt that they were too small to be carrying the amount of food that she also claimed wasn't even delivered,
Starting point is 00:10:45 but somehow they were just the right size for tens of thousands of ballots. And two, she says in her affidavit, two hours after those vans left, Michigan discovered another 100,000 ballots. But that claim that 100,000 ballots magically appeared has been totally debunked as misinformation stemming from a typo published by a county
Starting point is 00:11:01 that the center she was at wasn't even in. Right, and I bring all of that up for two reasons. One, it helps us understand why a judge would say that a group of witnesses are incorrect and not credible. And two, it does not reflect well on the strength of your argument if that is your star witness. But I mean, we're at this point where we kind of just expect this.
Starting point is 00:11:18 I mean, in addition to this, just yesterday, we saw Trump again, basically spewing lies for 40 minutes, which I'm not even gonna show those clips. I don't wanna give those lies more airtime. And at the same time, you also had Roger Stone, who of course was sentenced to 40 months in prison for lying to the Mueller investigation before being pardoned by Trump,
Starting point is 00:11:34 claiming that North Korean boats were shipping in ballots. Meanwhile, you also have pro-Trump lawyers, Sidney Powell and Lin Wood, literally telling people in Georgia not to vote in the runoff, which will actually decide which party controls the Senate. Though we have also seen a number of Republicans pushing back against the sentiment,
Starting point is 00:11:49 essentially saying, what the hell are you talking about? But I mean, that's also part of the issue you have for Republicans, a number staying silent, some backing up Trump, and then even though a majority of them have to know that it is just completely not true, then trying to tell those same people that, hey, the election was stolen, telling them to vote in another election.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Yeah, that's where I'm gonna end this ridiculousness today, though there's gonna be no shortage of this in the news, unfortunately. And then finally, let's talk about the coronavirus, because the United States has hit some pretty devastating numbers, and the situation is really just getting worse. Like we've talked about, vaccine on the horizon,
Starting point is 00:12:24 but we still have to get from point A to point B. Right, and so the situation right now is that yesterday for the first time in the United States, COVID-19 hospitalizations reached over 100,000, which is an 11% increase from last week and a 26% increase from the past two. And on top of this, the hospitalization caseloads in 38 states are becoming unstable.
Starting point is 00:12:42 And at the same time in the states yesterday, we hit a new single day record with 2,800 deaths. Some experts predicting that in the current shape we are in, the daily death count could regularly pass 2,000, 3,000, or even approach 4,000. So with 274,000 lives now lost from COVID-19 just here in the United States, we have health officials trying to sound the alarm even more.
Starting point is 00:13:03 I mean, they have been. Let's not act like this is a new thing, but I mean, that's why multiple outlets yesterday shared a report from the White House Coronavirus Task Force that was sent to states saying, "'The COVID risk to all Americans is at a historic high and that we are in a very dangerous place due to the current extremely high COVID baseline
Starting point is 00:13:17 and the limited hospital capacity.'" With the report including several warnings like, "'If state and local policies do not reflect the seriousness of the current situation, all public health officials must alert the state population directly. Also telling people over the age of 65 to not enter any indoor space with unmasked people
Starting point is 00:13:32 and saying that people under 40 who traveled for the holiday must assume that they have become infected and isolated, since even though they may not have symptoms themselves, they could be dangerous to others. But also with this, of course, you have people pointing to the future solution to this problem, which is the vaccine, which it does appear is really just around the corner, right? Yesterday, the United Kingdom approved Pfizer's vaccine
Starting point is 00:13:51 and will begin distributing it and vaccinating healthcare workers and vulnerable populations next week. And here in the United States, both Pfizer and Moderna have submitted to the FDA for approval, and if all goes well, they are expected to get greenlit within the next couple of weeks.
Starting point is 00:14:03 But again, let's say it happened tomorrow. Not saying that, but let's say it happened tomorrow. It's not done then. It's gonna take a while for the vaccine to be distributed and for everyone that wants it to get it. And with that, right now it is expected that healthcare workers and those in long-term care facilities will get priority before it rolls out
Starting point is 00:14:17 to the general public, which could take months. And secondly, there is an understandable concern that not enough people are going to get the vaccine. And it's not just anti-vaxxers in general. Right, a Gallup poll from mid-November that asked participants if an FDA-approved vaccine was available to them at no cost right now, would they take? And they found that 58% would, but 42% would not.
Starting point is 00:14:37 And looking further into why people were saying they would turn down the vaccine, there we found 37% of those who said no, said they felt that the vaccine timeline and development was rushed. Another 26% saying they just wanted to wait to confirm that it was safe. And you also had 10% saying they wanted to wait
Starting point is 00:14:50 to see how effective it was. And so all of that is in addition to the 12% who just said they do not trust vaccines in general. Also on top of all of that, today you had IBM saying that there have been cyber attacks aimed at companies and government organizations that will be distributing vaccines. But they currently believe that these hackers
Starting point is 00:15:04 were working to get information on how the vaccine is stored, kept cold and delivered. So with that, you have the Department of Homeland Security working on this, alerting companies of what to look out for, but obviously none of this seems to help. It also appears to be why leaders are really focusing on messaging that will limit vaccine hesitancy. And actually one of the interesting things
Starting point is 00:15:22 that we saw about this came from Dr. Fauci, who we saw critique the quick pace the UK approved Pfizer's vaccine with his concerns tying back to the Gallup poll and why people say they don't want the vaccine right now. If you go quickly and you do it superficially, people are not gonna wanna get vaccinated. We have the gold standard
Starting point is 00:15:39 of a regulatory approach with the FDA. The UK did not do it as carefully. Also with this push to stop messaging that might be dangerous regarding the vaccine, Facebook has pledged to remove COVID-19 vaccine misinformation on its platform, saying this could include false claims about the safety, efficacy, ingredients,
Starting point is 00:15:55 or side effects of the vaccines, as well as conspiracy theories. Additionally, we're seeing leaders amping up efforts to get people to take the vaccine, encouraging Americans that it is safe and effective, including three former presidents saying that they will take it, starting with Barack Obama, who said during an interview on the Joe Madison show
Starting point is 00:16:10 that if Dr. Fauci trusts it, so does he. And I promise you that when it's then made for people who are less at risk, I will be taking it and, you know, I may end up taking it on TV or having it filmed just so that people know that, you know, I trust this science. Personally, that is also where I land. If the experts, including Dr. Fauci, say that it is safe,
Starting point is 00:16:39 I'm taking it. I want to get back to normal. I can't believe I'm saying this as pretty much a lifelong introvert, but I want to see people again, especially as someone that's higher risk. I don get back to normal. I can't believe I'm saying this as pretty much a lifelong introvert, but I wanna see people again. Especially as someone that's higher risk, I don't wanna see everyone in every interaction as a potential threat.
Starting point is 00:16:51 But also, of course, I say that as me. I'm making a personal choice. And with this, of course, then I wanna pass the question off to you. What are your thoughts regarding this vaccine? Here in the States, let's say that the vaccine is approved by the FDA. It is distributed.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Fauci and others are saying, yes, do it. Are you getting the vaccine? Yes, no, why, why not? That is where I'm going to end today's show. As always, thanks for being a part of my daily dives in the news. Also, if you happen to be new here, hit that subscribe button,
Starting point is 00:17:14 tap that bell for all notifications. But with that said, of course, as always, my name's Philip DeFranco. You've just been filled in. I love yo faces and I'll see you next time.

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