The Philip DeFranco Show - PDS 2.12 Jussie Smollett HIT WITH 6 COUNTS! The Hunt, & How Bernie vs Pete Will Play Out
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And the first thing we're gonna talk about today
is Jussie Smollett is back in the news.
This is definitely one of those situations
where I was kind of like,
whatever happened, well, it's not over.
And kind of just a quick refresher,
because this happened just over a year ago,
back in January of 2019, Smollett, who is black and gay,
said that two men attacked him in a hate crime.
He claimed that the men that did this
yelled racist and homophobic things at him,
beat him, tied a noose around his neck,
poured chemicals on him.
This story understandably blew up.
It looked like a hate crime against a known celebrity.
So police officers in Chicago,
where the alleged attack happened, started to investigate.
But then they said that Smollett actually staged the attack
and paid two men to carry it out.
Claiming that his motive in doing so
could be to garner public sympathy.
That could maybe lead to him getting a raise
on the show that he was on, Empire.
And from there, things got even messier.
Cook County State Attorney Kim Foxx,
whose office was assigned to the case,
ended up recusing herself.
Then that March, Smollett ended up being indicted
on 16 counts of disorderly conduct
for falsifying a police report,
which he pled not guilty to.
And then just a few weeks later,
in kind of the most shocking turn,
unexpected turn of this story,
the charges against him were abruptly dropped
by the Cook County prosecutors.
And the circumstances around it were bizarre.
As part of the deal, he had to forfeit his $10,000 bond
and perform community service.
But even though it appeared
that that was a penalty of some sort,
he also didn't have to admit any wrongdoing.
This despite the fact that the prosecutors maintained
that there was nothing wrong with the investigation
and that the charges were not dropped
because of a lack of evidence.
With this, you had Smollett and his team
saying that this was a win,
claiming that he had been truthful the whole time.
Meanwhile, Chicago police were incredibly upset.
You had Chicago police commander, Edwin Nicky,
calling it a punch in the gut.
Then Mayor Rahm Emanuel calling it a whitewash of justice.
Following this, the city of Chicago
filed a civil suit against Smollett,
demanding that he cover the $130,000
that was spent in overtime pay to investigate his report.
And then Smollett sued the city for malicious prosecution.
So it was a mess, it was all over the place.
Also understand a lot of that is very top level,
but it ultimately brings us to today.
Because in the past day,
we've learned that Smollett has now been indicted
on six new charges for disorderly conduct
for falsifying a police report.
This reportedly coming after special prosecutor Dan Webb
led a six month investigation into the case.
Back in August, a judge appointed him
to look into whether or not Smollett
should still be prosecuted as well as Cook County State's attorney, Kim Fox's investigation into the case. Back in August, a judge appointed him to look into whether or not Smollett should still be prosecuted as well
as Cook County State's Attorney,
Kim Foxx's handling of the case.
So with this, we saw Webb's office release a statement
saying, the grand jury's investigation revealed
that Jussie Smollett planned and participated
in a staged hate crime attack
and thereafter made numerous false statements
to Chicago Police Department officers on multiple occasions,
reporting a heinous crime that he in fact knew
had not occurred.
Therefore, Mr. Webb has determined
that reasonable grounds exist
to further prosecute Mr. Smollett.
And also adding that further charging Smollett
is in the interest of justice.
As far as the other part of the investigation,
whether or not Cook County State Attorney's Office
mishandled the case, there have been no full conclusions yet.
That aspect of the investigation is still ongoing.
But at the very least, we do know that he disagrees
with their decision to drop charges.
Following this, we saw a number of responses and reactions.
First, coming from Kim Foxx in her office,
because something worth noting about Foxx
is that she's running for reelection
and the primary is just around the corner in March.
The Smollett case, easily one of the biggest hurdles
of her campaign.
After the indictments were dropped,
her office released a statement saying,
"'The Cook County State's Attorney's Office
"'charged Jussie Smollett with multiple counts,
"'and today the special prosecutor did the same.'"
What's questionable here is the James Comey-like timing
of that charging decision just 35 days before an election,
which can only be interpreted as the further politicization
of the justice system.
Also upset with the indictment was Smollett's legal team,
with them also mentioning the upcoming election.
You had attorney Tina Gladion say,
"'The charges were appropriately dismissed the first time
"'because they were not supported by the evidence.
"'The attempt to re-prosecute Mr. Smollett one year later
"'on the eve of the Cook County State's attorney election
is clearly all about politics, not justice. And with this, you also had the city of Chicago release
a statement of its own clarifying that on top of these new charges, Smollett is still facing the
civil suit filed against him. But ultimately, that is where we are right now. Smollett is expected to
appear in court on February 24th. But yeah, we'll have to wait and see what happens from here. But
with all of that said, I'd love to know your thoughts
on this story in those comments down below.
And then let's talk about The Hunt.
And I'm also just realizing that an accidental theme
of today's show is in large part things that almost happened
are now happening again.
And with The Hunt, if you don't remember it,
it's a movie starring Hilary Swank, Emma Roberts,
Betty Gilpin, among others.
Back in July of last year, Universal Studios dropped
a trailer for the movie.
And in that, we saw Gilpin's character in a gas station,
seemingly kind of confused of where she's at.
She's then attacked by the station's owners.
She manages to fight back, ultimately kills them.
Pretty standard stuff for a movie trailer.
But if you don't remember,
the movie actually stoked a lot of political division.
And that's because it appeared that the plot of the movie
was essentially a group of rich elites
hunting another group of people
who were described as rednecks.
Those rich elites being characterized as elite liberals, the rednecks mostly being from conservative states. Those elites also another group of people who are described as rednecks. Those rich elites being characterized as elite liberals,
the rednecks mostly being from conservative states.
Those elites also refer to the people
that they're hunting as deplorables,
seemingly in reference to the Hillary Clinton comment
back in 2016.
You know, to just be grossly generalistic,
you could put half of Trump's supporters
into what I call the basket of deplorables.
And while the hunt was marketed as a satire,
it still angered a lot of people, including President Trump.
He actually tweeted about the movie,
writing, liberal Hollywood is racist at the highest level
and with great anger and hate.
They like to call themselves elite, but they are not elite.
In fact, it is often the people that they so strongly oppose
that are actually the elite.
The movie coming out is made in order to inflame
and cause chaos.
They create their own violence
and then try to blame others.
They are the true racists and are very bad for our country.
You also saw the likes of Franklin Graham,
son of televangelist Billy Graham saying,
"'To plant the thought in someone's mind
"'that it's okay to shoot a person
"'because they wear a MAGA hat
"'or hold conservative viewpoints
"'that may differ from theirs
"'is reckless and reprehensible.
"'That's not satire or entertainment.
"'That's sowing seeds of discord and violence.'"
Now the counter argument to that in general was one,
yes, that it's satire, but also two,
people saying that if the movie ends up being
what you're saying it is,
it seems to go against those general ideas
because if anything in that trailer,
it seems like the elites who are hunting
other human beings are bad guys.
Or essentially saying if anything, it demonizes elites.
But still with that said, the criticism and hate
for this movie was heavy.
On top of that criticism,
there was also the timing aspect of this.
Around this time, you had the news
that a gunman had killed 22 people
at a Walmart in El Paso on August 3rd.
Next day, another gunman in Dayton, Ohio killed nine people.
Right, and so following those shootings,
Universal dropped promotion of the film.
And in fact, ultimately, we ended up seeing Universal
pulling the plug on the movie altogether,
with Universal releasing a statement,
saying, while Universal Pictures had already paused
the marketing campaign for The Hunt,
after thoughtful consideration,
the studio has decided to cancel our plans
to release the film.
We stand by our filmmakers and will continue
to distribute films in partnership with bold
and visionary creators, like those associated
with this satirical social thriller,
but we understand that now is not the right time
to release this film.
And at that time, Universal didn't announce any plans
to release the movie at a later date or in another way.
Also following that decision, we saw Hilary Swank say in a statement
that she supported Universal's decision,
feeling like the choice was necessary,
adding that the country should focus on healing
and other things like kindness, sensitivity, and humanity.
And this whole thing at the time, of course,
was received with mixed reactions.
Some happy to see it go,
others saying that this was essentially censorship,
giving in to a mob.
And that is pretty much where the story ended,
until yesterday.
Because yesterday we saw an announcement.
The film is back on and it's set to be released next month.
And with the announcement, we saw the film's producers
kind of playing damage control for both sides.
Producer and co-writer Damon Lindelof telling Variety,
"'This is not a dangerous movie.
"'This is not a provocative movie.
"'This is not a divisive movie.'"
Also telling the New York Times,
"'This movie didn't strike me as third rail.
"'I wish that Trump had seen it.
"'The movie he was talking about was not the movie
"'I feel that we made.'"
Producer Jason Blum also telling the Times not one frame was changed.
This is exactly the same movie. Continuing to push the movie as satire and even though reportedly
the movie itself is unchanged, what we did end up seeing is a change in how the movie was being
marketed. First off, now going with the tagline, the most talked about movie of the year is one
that no one's actually seen. Right, touching the note that people had mass reactions even though
they didn't see the film itself.
Though the counter argument to that
is we were reacting to the trailer that you released.
But regarding that point,
they've also now released a new trailer
and it has a completely different feel.
Instead of seeming more like a straightforward
horror murder pornish movie,
the trailer shows a lot more of the comedy elements,
also plot elements.
Going off the trailer, unless it's a misdirect,
it appears that this situation is kind of a prank gone wrong.
In fact, according to the Philadelphia Inquirer,
part of the plot appears to involve
a reality TV show gone wrong.
Yeah, ultimately that's where we are.
As far as my reaction to this,
I mean, I'm gonna watch a movie,
one, because I'm intrigued to see
what the hell this thing actually is.
And also, two, kind of regarding that,
no, this is gonna be a fantastic marketing test case.
When you look at how they're promoting the movie now,
just look at the poster.
Instead of the five star reviews,
it's just all the negative stuff said about it.
Hitting you almost dead center underneath the name,
decide for yourself.
Right, what kind of box office numbers from this movie
are we gonna see?
They got so much free press,
even if there's a ton of people saying,
I will not watch this movie,
the budget for the movie was only $15 million.
It was gonna be one of those test cases of,
can all this negative that was associated with this movie
turned into a very profitable positive?
As long as things stay the same
and they don't cancel the movie again,
it looks like we're gonna learn on the weekend of March 13th.
That said, of course, like with every story,
I'd love to know your thoughts on this.
Are you happy to see this movie coming back?
Do you think that it should have stayed canceled?
Why, why not?
Any and all thoughts, let me know down below.
And then let's talk about the New Hampshire primary,
which luckily went better than the garbage fire
that was the Iowa caucus.
And on that note, as we were recording,
we saw the Iowa Democrats say that they are willing
to do a partial re-canvas of some of the caucuses.
But in order for that to happen,
both Bernie Sanders and Pete Buttigieg
would have to give the go ahead.
So while that whole situation still seems to be a mess,
it's a good thing New Hampshire was not a total disaster.
And because it was not a garbage fire,
we actually get to start our coverage this time
with the results.
With 98% of precincts reporting, Bernie got 25.7%,
followed by Pete Buttigieg with 24.4%,
followed by Amy Klobuchar, who just surged to 19.8%,
and then followed with Warren at 9.2% and Biden at 8.4%.
Regarding those results, I'll say,
I think it's a really important note.
Say what you want about Joe Biden,
but it seems that his slow burn campaign
of telling people to just go and vote for someone else, it's working. I mean, this is, I mean, this is really bad for him.
But joking aside, in New Hampshire, we saw Bernie Sanders deliver a speech.
And let me say tonight that this victory here is the beginning of the end for Donald Trump.
With victories behind us, popular vote in Iowa
and the victory here tonight, we're going to Nevada,
we're going to South Carolina,
we're gonna win those states as well.
We also saw Buttigieg celebrating
a very close second place, congratulating Bernie on his win,
but also saying that his movement is divisive.
In this election season, we have been told by some
that you must either be for a revolution
or you are for the status quo.
But where does that leave the rest of us?
Most Americans don't see where they fit in
that polarized vision.
And we can't defeat the most divisive president
in modern American history by tearing down anybody
who doesn't agree with us 100% of the time.
We also saw Klobuchar for her part,
very excited about her third place.
And also here noting kind of a grab for the people
that are more moderate.
We have beaten the odds every step of the way.
Because of you, we are taking this campaign to Nevada.
We are going to South Carolina.
And we are taking this message of unity to the country.
Donald Trump's worst nightmare is that the people
in the middle, the people who have had enough
of the name calling and the mud slinging,
have someone to vote for in November.
So those were your top three,
but we also saw a shakeup of people
that really weren't polling well.
We saw Andrew Yang and Michael Bennett announce
they were dropping out of the race. You know, I am the math
guy, and it is clear tonight from the numbers that we are not going to win this race. I am not
someone who wants to accept donations and support in a race that we will not win. And so tonight,
I am announcing I am suspending my campaign for president. Also, as far as Joe Biden, it appeared
that he knew things weren't gonna go well in New Hampshire.
Announcing that he was gonna be leaving early,
that he wasn't gonna stay for his primary party,
instead going to South Carolina to campaign.
And from here, depending on who you are,
it's gonna get very scary or very interesting.
Right, only two states in,
you have Bernie and Buttigieg at the top
with delicate counts of 22 and 21.
A lot of people surprised
how well Buttigieg has been doing so far.
Though, many experts here say that those elections
are not indicative of how well
he's going to do moving forward.
You have the Nevada caucus in less than two weeks,
the South Carolina primary at the end of the month.
And those two states specifically
are gonna be the most critical stress test for him
because as NPR explained,
Buttigieg has won in two of the whitest states
in the country and has strength with white voters
with college degrees.
But he struggled in the polls with voters of color.
And then noting Nevada was 41% non-white in 2016
and 61% of South Carolina Democratic voters
were African-Americans.
But for Sanders as well, that's gonna be a big test
because last time, 2016,
those states did not go with a more progressive candidate.
And we've also seen a conversation coming up
of do more candidates need to drop out before Super Tuesday?
And Super Tuesday, if you don't know, it's March 3rd.
It's when 1,357 delegates will be up for grabs.
So just that day can be a make or break moment
for the candidates.
You need 1,990 delegates to win the nomination.
And right now, looking at the candidates,
it appears that there is a huge fight
of who Democrats are moving forward.
And more progressive candidates like Sanders and Warren,
and more moderate like Buttigieg, Klobuchar, and Biden.
Here you have people looking at the results in New Hampshire
saying it's actually an argument
for a more moderate candidate.
People like Tim Nichols tweeting,
"'Bernie plus Liz equals 35%.
"'Pete plus Amy plus Joe, 53%.'"
Right, and so essentially it becomes an argument of,
do certain moderate candidates need to fall on their sword
so a more moderate candidate can poll higher?
Right, the belief is that they're all splitting the vote
because we're in a very odd place
where there are so many front runners.
But then adding confusion to that whole situation
and debate, you have Michael Bloomberg
who has spent greatly on specifically Super Tuesday states.
The counter argument to the progressives aren't as popular
and the moderates are just splitting the vote
is that people are saying people don't just vote that way.
Or you might have people that love Klobuchar,
but they think that Buttigieg is a rat, Biden's a joke.
If Bernie has that steam and Klobuchar drops out,
maybe some of the voters go there.
Also, something to mention about the number of candidates,
if people do not drop out, FiveThirtyEight.com has noted
that the possibility of a contested convention
is increasing, that being we're going
into the Democratic National Convention
that there was no pledged delegate majority,
something that if it happened,
could be incredibly divisive to Democrats.
But ultimately, that's where we are,
those are some of the projections thus far,
and it's gonna be interesting to see what happens from here.
That said, I'd love to know your thoughts
on this whole situation.
Also, something that I would find interesting,
if you're a Democrat,
who's your number one ideal scenario now?
And if that person could not get it,
who would you jump to for number two?
Right, and for me, that's to kind of see
would the progressives have to stay
with the progressive candidates,
would the moderates definitely stay with the moderates,
or would they jump ship?
Yeah, I'm just trying to get a feel
for what people are thinking in this mess.
And that is where I'm going to end today's show.
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