The Philip DeFranco Show - PDS 2.13 WHAT REALLY HAPPENED! Joel Osteen Church Shooting, Jon Stewart Tackles Biden-Trump, & Today’s News
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You're watching the Philip DeFranco Show.
I got an extra large one for you today.
We got a lot of news to talk about.
We're talking about all the new information
that's come out around the megachurch shooting,
Jon Stewart taking on Trump and Biden,
people are saying Billie Eilish and Taylor Swift
are the future, credit score dating, news layoffs,
this craziness, and then there's even more.
So buckle up, hit that like button to let YouTube know
you like these daily dives into the news,
and let's just jump into it.
Starting with, we need to talk about the shooting
at Joel Osteen's Lakewood Church and what we know so far. Because on Sunday,
a 36-year-old Hispanic woman entered this Houston megachurch at around 2 p.m. as a Spanish language
service was beginning. Very notably here, Lakewood is a very highly attended church with around 45,000
attending services weekly, which makes it the third largest megachurch in the country. According
to the police, this woman wore a trench coat, carried a backpack, and had her seven-year-old son at her side
while armed with two rifles.
With a search warrant affidavit also showing
that the woman claimed to have a bomb and was carrying
a yellow in-color rope and substances
consistent with the manufacture of explosive devices,
which appear to be a detonation cord.
The law enforcement later said
that they didn't find any explosives at the scene.
And with this, you had investigators saying
the woman and her son entered the church
after she pointed an AR-15 at an unarmed security guard and forced her way in.
She then quickly began to open fire inside a hallway, but two off-duty officers working security at the church responded immediately.
Those two being identified as Houston Police Officer Christopher Moreno and Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission Agent Adrian Herrera.
Those officers exchanged gunfire and the woman was shot and killed.
Though also the woman's son was also shot in the head during the exchange and remains in the hospital in critical condition as of recording. With that, the police saying right now it's unclear
who shot the child. Beyond that, another 57-year-old man was shot in the hip and hospitalized, but
officials have said he has since been discharged. And a very key thing here is that during a press
conference yesterday, Houston Police Commander Chris Hassig said that all of the gunfire happened
in the church hallway. The two officers preventing it from spilling over into the main sanctuary were
worshippers were sent scrambling for cover and safety after hearing gunshots, which is why
law enforcement officials applauding these two men saying they are heroes who help prevent a
mass shooting. Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission Chairman Kevin Lilly saying these two officers
held their ground. They held their ground in the face of rifle fire at point-blank range.
And they continued to fire until the perpetrator was neutralized.
And they did not yield.
They were a wall that existed between worshipers and terror,
between freedom of religion and murder. Now, with this, as far as what we know about the shooter,
officials have not yet officially identified a motive.
You know what?
Yesterday's presser has provided some early information law enforcement had discovered,
specifically talking about the AR-15 the shooter used and saying.
There was a sticker on the buttstock of the rifle that stated Palestine.
A sticker simply stated Palestine on the buttstock.
We have uncovered some items. We do have some
anti-Semitic writings that we have uncovered during this process. But like I said,
we are 24 hours into it. It is very new. We are getting new information as the hours change.
And so we are going to be delving into that more.
Hasik also went on to say that the officials believe the attacker acted alone and wasn't
part of a bigger group, but then continued. And we do want to state that through our investigation,
I mentioned anti-Semitic writing. We do believe that there was a familial dispute that has taken
place between her ex-husband and her ex-husband's family.
And some of those individuals are Jewish.
So we believe that that might possibly be
where all of this stems from.
And a big thing here with this whole story,
a woman who the media has identified
as the shooter's ex-mother-in-law wrote a Facebook post
yesterday where she claimed that her former daughter-in-law
raged against Israel and Jews in a pro-Palestinian rant.
But despite that, the ex-mother-in-law,
who CNN reported is a rabbi, said,
quote, this has nothing to do with Judaism or Islam.
As far as why this woman targeted an evangelical megachurch, that remains unclear.
Now, it's been reported that court records show the shooter was going through a bitter divorce and a custody battle.
During that time, her ex-mother-in-law reached out to staff at Lakewood for pastoral advice.
Notably, the records don't say which staff she contacted.
And a spokesperson for the church said he didn't believe members or leaders of the church knew the attack. Through all of this, as
others have noted, that Osteen, like many other evangelical leaders, has expressed solidarity with
Israel and held events there. But again, this is law enforcement officials say that the matter is
currently not being investigated as a hate crime. With them noting that there are a lot of other
things at play here and they're looking into it. This, including a history of mental illness that
was documented not just by family members but by police as well. With court filings reportedly showing that the shooter's former mother-in-law sought a conservatorship of her son,
alleging that this woman was mentally ill and that the boy was being neglected and abused.
And she echoed some of those claims in her Facebook post,
claiming that the shooter had previously been treated for schizophrenia.
The shooter also had a checkered past with numerous arrests,
with the authorities saying that the attacker had multiple aliases, including both male and female names.
With that, we saw a number of conservative outlets and commentators like Fox News and Libs of TikTok initially saying the shooter was trans. With
Libs of TikTok repeatedly spreading this claim and a bunch of others on the right running with
that narrative. This including reply guy Elon Musk who suggested with zero evidence that hormones
for gender-affirming care could be a major causal factor in violence. But we also ended up seeing
Fox News eventually walk back their claims after police said not only did the shooter identify as
female, but noting that she was in fact the biological mother of her seven-year-old. And this after
combing through past police reports and conducting numerous interviews with people that she knew.
According to the Associated Press, county records showed that under her various aliases,
the woman was charged in six criminal cases from 2005 to 2011. Those charges ranged from forging a
$100 bill, to stealing socks, hats, and makeup, to assault for kicking a detention officer which
landed her in jail for 180 days. And as a part of her history with mental illness, authorities said that the shooter was
placed under emergency detention in 2016, though they didn't give more information. But more
recently and most significantly in 2022, she was arrested on misdemeanor weapons charges. And
massively important here, during yesterday's presser, a reporter noted in a question to
officials that records show that this woman had actually had weapons taken away from her in 2022.
And then even beyond that, the FBI had literally questioned her
about her efforts to purchase a weapon last year.
But when the reporter asked
how the shooter was able to get a hold of those weapons,
officials just said they were still investigating.
But they also said that it appeared
she had purchased the AR-15 she used legally
just months ago in December.
And then when asked if the police
had opportunities to intervene sooner,
Houston Police Chief Troy Finner
tried to avoid direct responsibility.
She did have a history, if you want to say that.
But there are millions up on top of millions of people who have a history.
And to your question and answer, the response is that we all need to continue to work together.
But numerous people have literally said that they did exactly that and law enforcement didn't do shit.
With yesterday, six different neighbors of the shooter telling reporters that she had threatened and harassed them and displayed firearms, making
them fear going outside of their homes. And in July of 2022, one neighbor said she filed a police
complaint against the shooter for allegedly threatening her with a handgun. In fact, the
situation got so bad that five months ago, the neighbors got together to spend a whole day where
they talked to local elected officials, the police, the sheriff's office, and Houston's legal
department. But still, nothing was done and she was still allowed to own and purchase firearms after all of that. With many, including
the attacker's ex-mother-in-law, arguing that Texas' lax gun regulations and lack of red flag
laws are to blame. But ultimately, that is where we are with this. And again, remember, we're
getting more updates. It's a developing situation. And if and when more information comes out,
we'll be there. And then we need to talk about whatever the hell just happened in this video. Because that is Liseberg Park,
one of Sweden's biggest and most popular amusement parks. And it's been building an
additional water park section, which reportedly cost over $10 million and was set to open this
summer. But also that's probably not going to happen because of what you just saw. Because
yesterday, for unknown reasons, a fiery explosion erupted at the construction site, with it hurling
flaming debris across the area. And as a result, it ignited several large water slides in a building. Now, fortunately,
no guests were there since the park was still under construction, but you have the Associated
Press reporting that 16 people were slightly injured and one park employee is missing. But
either way, we saw this fire send a black plume of smoke drifting over Sweden's second largest city,
Gothenburg, the authorities having to evacuate nearby hotel and office buildings, as well as
warning people to stay indoors and close off all windows or ventilation. And then we're still getting more and more news and fallout from the
Super Bowl, with it now being reported that this Super Bowl broke historic ratings, reaching 123.4
million viewers via CBS and its other platforms, with it being described as the most watched
telecast ever, or the most watched telecast since the moon landing, which one is huge. Though two,
we need to remember these are like very Americaica specific numbers because if you want to talk about crazy numbers i think fifa said that
the last world cup 1.5 billion people watched it live so the nfl and the super bowl huge but that
also kind of hits on why the nfl is interested in like getting the sport out of the country but
there is a lot of attention on this year's historic numbers for a number of reasons because even though
the last super bowl was another record breaker this follows a five-year period where ratings were really in flux.
Declining in 2019, hitting a historic low in 2021.
Though also, I think it's important to note that comparison here can be tricky.
And that's because over the last several years, Nielsen's actually changed how accounts out of home viewing at venues like bars.
But still, with all this, you have many people attributing this viewership jump, at least in part, to Taylor Swift.
She was at the game rooting for Kelsey and the Chiefs. She's been to a number of games this
season. The Peacock playoff game made history. In effect, 20% of viewers said that they were
rooting for Kansas City because of her. Seemingly, this is just continuing the trend of everything
she touches turns to gold. I mean, recently, the Grammys, they've been struggling with their
ratings. They saw a substantial uptick this year. She was nominated for and won several awards. I
mean, hell, even the Golden Globes, which had practically been ready to be lowered into its grave. They
saw a ratings boost this year with her being one of the most notable stars in attendance.
You also have people saying it's not just Taylor Swift, arguing that this is actually part of a
much larger phenomenon, which is women driving the economy. It's saying from the box office to
concerts, women were running the world last year. And so, you know, it'll be interesting to see if
broadcasters pick up on that trend, if they capitalize on female-centric entertainment in the near future. I mean,
it's already something we're seeing with the Oscars, which is heavily leaning into the Barbie
of it all. With them even releasing a promo this morning in a mini Barbie spoof starring some of
the cast, especially because in all likelihood, you know, it's not going to win Best Picture
or a lot of its categories, with many saying that its best bet right now is for Best Song
with Billie Eilish. You know, ultimately we'll have to wait and see because over time, you know,
we're really going to be able to see the scope of this trend, how specific it is to
certain artists, or if it becomes like an industry-wide thing. Especially as there are a
number of different trends that I find fascinating right now. Like kind of the recent resurgence of
country music, you know, obviously led by the likes of Morgan Wallen, how some friends recently
put me on to Zach Bryan. We're seeing more and more artists actually jump into the space, right?
Post Malone's been a good example. Beyonce now more recently, although they're not technically a new avenue for her.
But then that starts this whole other conversation.
There was that whole daddy lessons controversy years back.
Man, all of this is going to be very interesting to see how it plays out.
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Australia is about to outlaw doxing. And the specifics around this are very interesting
because you also have activists saying that what inspired this move from Australia,
it shouldn't be classified as doxing. Because what we're seeing right now is Australia's Prime Minister, Anthony Albanese, asking the country's Attorney General
to write up legislation and revisions to Australia's Privacy Act. And while so far,
nothing has been drafted and the exact details are up in the air, you do have different outlets
saying there will be a handful of focuses. According to Bloomberg, measures could include
takedown notices and penalties for social media companies. Vice saying the potential changes will
make doxing a crime punishable by jail time. Also the AP saying there could be fines. And then as far as why doxing all of a sudden has become
such a priority in Australia, notably this is coming after a 900-page transcript from a WhatsApp
group chat of Jewish writers, artists, and academics was leaked. With reports saying that
it was published by pro-Palestine activists and that the information shared included names,
pictures, professions, and social media accounts. With Attorney General Mark Dreyfus saying in a
release that the overall trend of doxing is a deeply disturbing development, and adding,
the recent targeting of members of the Australian Jewish community through those practices like
doxing was shocking, but sadly, this is far from being an isolated incident. We live in a vibrant,
multicultural community, which we should strive to protect. No Australian should be targeted
because of their race or because of their religion. Though this, as some activists have
defended the leak, claiming this is whistleblowing from a whistleblower within the chat.
And Clementine Ford, an activist who shared the information,
arguing on Instagram that there was a public interest
in the leaks as it demonstrates, quote,
"'The coordinated efforts of those working
"'to silence criticism of the Zionist state.'"
And claiming that people in that chat
were discussing tactics to harm the livelihoods
and reputations of people simply for being Palestinian
or for calling for an end to the genocide
against the people of Gaza.
But they're also saying that no addresses,
phone numbers, or emails were shared
and that it's wrong to frame the leak as doxing.
But there you have Prime Minister Albanese pushing back against that,
saying that hundreds of people in the chat were providing support to one another
and telling local radio,
the idea that in Australia someone should be targeted because of their religion,
because of their faith, whether they be Jewish or Muslim or Hindu or Catholic,
it's just completely unacceptable.
Saying there should also be new proposals to strengthen laws against hate speech.
You know, with this, I'd love to know your thoughts. One,
of course, generally about the criminality of doxing. But also two, what are your thoughts
around the debate of whether what we're talking about here is whistleblowing or doxing? Because
depending on where you go on social media right now, people have drastically different opinions.
And then, Jon Stewart returned to host The Daily Show for the first time in nine years last night,
and it was like chicken noodle soup
for my news-rattled brain. And notably, in his first show back, he tackled one of the most debated
issues that Americans have been talking about the past week. One thing we know for certain is this.
We have two candidates who are chronologically outside the norm of anyone who has run
for the presidency in this country, in the history of this country. They are the oldest people ever
to run for president, breaking by only four years the record that they set.
For a number of reasons, people have been expressing concern that both Biden and Trump,
though in the past week, mainly Biden, are too old to be president. Trump's 77, Biden's 81. By the
end of their second term, they'd be 82 and 86. And with that, an ABC Ipsos poll finding
that 86% of Americans think that Biden's too old to run,
whereas only 62% said the same about Trump.
Which is interesting,
not only because of the gap between the two candidates,
but because both of those numbers
are actually much higher than they were back in September.
This is becoming a growing issue.
But back in September, 74% saying Biden's too old
and 49% saying Trump's too old.
Notably, there has been a lot more discussion
over the past week because of the special counsel report. Because in that, even though there was evidence that Biden
had willfully retained classified documents, it did not recommend charges. One of the reasons they
threw in there is that he would most likely appear to a jury as a sympathetic, well-meaning elderly
man with a poor memory. With a report claiming it was observed that he had trouble recalling the
years he served as vice president and didn't remember the exact date his son Beau had died.
Which then resulted on Sunday, the president gathering reporters for a press conference to refute the accusations of
mental decline, with many saying he started off strong, it was solid, he was leaving,
and then he went back and it was not a great look. Many American people have been watching
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In the Gaza Strip has been over the top.
He also confused the president of Egypt
with the president of Mexico.
And that following last week where he confused
two different German chancellors.
Days before that, confusing two different French presidents.
And with this, we've seen two different kinds
of defenses of Biden.
The first being these are just kind of occasional gaffes
saying that behind the scenes, he's actually mentally sharp,
he's focused, he's always working.
And then separately, though sometimes connected, you have people saying,
if this is disqualifying for Biden, then Trump's no better. Because the list of his gaffes and
flubs and just outright kind of just insane things goes on and on. Whether it be, I don't know,
what's most recent? He confused Nikki Haley with Nancy Pelosi. He praised Hungary's prime minister
for his leadership of Turkey. He claimed he defeated Obama in the 2016 election. He warned
that the country's on the verge of World War II. And among other things, last night, Stewart playing the,
that Trump magnets clip. All I know about magnets is this. Give me a glass of water. Let me drop
it on the magnets. That's the end of the magnets. As well as deposition footage where Trump, who
says he has a great memory, does not recall saying that. So here's the thing. If everyone is seeing
this, they're seeing the Biden stuff, they're seeing the Trump stuff. There is the very big question of why do voters see the two men so
differently? Well, with that, you have places like the New York Times saying it may be their
different visual presentations. Writing Biden's voice has grown softer and raspier, his hair
thinner and wider. Trump, by contrast, often dyes his hair and is unnaturally tan. While Biden often
holds his upper body stiff, creating an impression of frailty, Trump uses his physicality to project
strength and stamina in front of crowds.
But also, you know, speculation like this is kind of telling.
Because really, all we have to go on is what we can see in public.
And according to several memory experts who talked to the Washington Post, that actually doesn't tell us much.
Saying that the candidates' cognitive abilities, they can't be evaluated based on anecdotal memory lapses.
With one saying, many of us have memory slips all the time.
We can't remember where we put our car keys.
We can't remember dates or names.
But we don't really notice the mistakes when we're young.
It's when people get older that mistakes and memory seem to have more significance.
And there, you know, you have people noting neither Biden nor Trump are alone in their flubs.
So my favorite random ones is like in 2012,
Mitt Romney shared a memory of a jubilee in Detroit that actually took place before he was born.
2008, Hillary Clinton told a story about being under sniper fire in Bosnia a decade earlier.
Later, she admitted she misremembered being told
there was a potential threat of sniper fire,
which is why I have experts adding
that to really know whether someone's declining,
you need to perform a formal evaluation.
And as for Biden, we have a letter from his longtime doctor
released by the White House nearly a year ago
that described him as a healthy, vigorous 80-year-old male
after a physical examination.
But also like when Ronnie Jackson was in the White House
and he was glazing up Trump on those things. People that want to believe those statements are going to
believe those statements. And then everyone else is going to understandably be skeptical. Because
again, we're talking about a situation involving two people where one is in his 80s and if the
other is elected, will be in his 80s during that term. And while specifically looking at Democrats,
73% say that Biden's too old to serve another term compared to only 35% of Republicans saying
the same about Trump. Another perspective is that many left-leaning people have said that they will vote for a comatose Biden than an anything Trump.
A guy who invited Russia to do whatever the hell they want to NATO members who don't pay up more.
Who said, you know, if there's alleged election fraud, which he's been alleging,
it allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution.
But again, none of that dismisses the legitimacy of people concerned about age. And again, while it appears that there is a double standard and hypocrisy at play
regarding like only being worried about the mental faculties of one of the candidates,
especially given everything we can see from both, it doesn't dismiss those concerns. And at the very
least, thinking about the country moving forward, there should be age caps in place. You can call it
ageist, but y'all, both candidates are older than the average US life
expectancy. We're on the other end of the bell curve with these two fucking guys. But that's
where I'm going to leave it for now because the stage is set and it's going to play out how it
plays out. And then Democrats have a loser mentality. And Dems, understand, I'm not coming
at you for no reason. I'm not being judgy, name calling. I'm just slinging facts. Because while
according to Pew Research, when they surveyed Americans, the majority of all Americans believe that their side is losing, Democrats just always
feel like they're losing no matter what is actually happening. Like Republicans, when Obama was
president, they were like, we're losing, man. But then Donald Trump won the presidency and over the
next four years, they were like, we're winning, baby. This is the most winning that's ever been
won. And then in 2020, Biden won. And they were like, this is the bottom. We're just eating so
many L's. That's what's actually fueling the obesity epidemic. But Democrats, from 2016 to
2024, the majority have said our side is losing. Dropping from 80% of Dems in 2020 to 60% in 2022.
Dems, that is a loser's mindset. Not only did you knock Trump out of office, you won two Senate
seats in Georgia. I've lived in Georgia.
You know how insane that is?
For correction, I lived in the unofficial U.S. state of Atlanta,
which is drastically different from the rest of Georgia.
But places like Alpharetta would be my second home.
And the fact that Georgia went blue, crazy.
The fact that the majority of you didn't feel like winners, crazy.
It's like someone bought you a PS5 and you're depressed
because it's going to take you away from all your reading. Though, I will say, joking aside, I do understand why a lot
of y'all can have a negative outlook. Because while in the last few cycles, Democrats have been
overperforming during election days, that is also happening as you have a very, very conservative
Supreme Court drastically changing the shape of America and doing so in ways that only they can
do. And obviously the most drastic shift to the Supreme Court happened during the Trump presidency
where he put three people in place. That also speaks to the importance of
the elections that you won because it would be even more conservative and thus conservative for
longer in the future. Had you not gone to cast your votes, you wouldn't have Ketanji Brown Jackson
there. And that's the way politics works. It is slow and it sucks and it's shitty. And then it
all happens at once. But that's where I'll leave it because if you're losing, even when you're
winning, I don't know. I don't know what kind of life that is. And then, you know,
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rightly or wrongly, that is the case. And I know you know that, but kind of an experiment or a
stunt, a dating app has just been launched for people with only a credit score of 675 or higher.
The app is called Score, and it will only exist for the next 90 days.
While on the surface level, you might go, this just sounds so fucking superficial.
The research and the data that's out there,
it shows that you might actually have a better opportunity in finding a long-term partner this way.
With research from the Federal Reserve showing that if you have a high credit score,
you are not only more likely to get into a serious relationship, but that relationship
is also more likely to last longer. And the researchers, you know, they argue this isn't
some sort of superficial thing, saying that credit scores might actually be indicative of deeper
qualities and relationship skills, particularly as they relate to trustworthiness. And going on to
say, our results present new evidence on how a mismatch in trustworthiness within a household may affect its stability. Though I will add, and I understand,
you know, a credit score and like how much money you have, it's not a direct one-to-one exactly.
But as someone who has existed in both realms, money stresses or the lack of them, I think also
affect long-term relationships as well. With the same time, you have places like TechCrunch reporting,
you know, this is going to rub a lot of people the wrong way. Saying especially when you consider that the average U.S. citizen's credit score is
716, with black and Hispanic people more likely than other racial groups to have a score below
640. Essentially arguing that in addition to being blatantly classist, it has a low-key racial bias.
But with all that said, I'm going to leave you with two things. The first is I'd love to know
your thoughts, not only on this specific dating app, but your thoughts regarding credit scores
and how that impacts relationships. Because it's definitely an interesting thing to look at because whenever I
think about money and relationships, that's like a little more simplistic, right? Access to funds
or not, that can add an extra layer of stress in a relationship. But credit score is, it feels a
little bit more deep. But then also second, and this is kind of self-serving, though I'm mentioning
it because I think it can genuinely help a lot of people. Forever ago, I invested in this company,
Cred.ai. It's your everyday spending card. You use it like a debit card, but it builds up your
credit. And it makes sure that you never pay fees or interest or overspend. And I want to stress,
this is not a sponsor spot. I normally make them pay me for the privilege of mentioning in the
show. But I'm mentioning it here because I think it can help a lot of people. And I also want to
be transparent that I do have an interest because I'm an investor. And then there is a lot of bad
news about the state of news right now. If you didn't see, this year started off with a massive series
of massive layoffs in the journalism industry, impacting outlets and reporters left and right
nationwide. And while this would always be concerning, news layoffs at this scale have
incredible consequences, especially in an election year. And fighting disinformation will be more
important than ever and also seems harder than ever. And what makes all this even worse is this
is a continuation of a problem, right?
It's not like it was all rainbows and sunshine
going into 2024.
In 2023, you saw layoffs at the Washington Post,
NPR, and many more.
But hell, just this last January,
before the end of the month,
the Los Angeles Times gutted over 20% of its newsroom,
with the paper's owner saying that the move is,
quote, painful for all,
but it is imperative that we act urgently
and take steps to build a sustainable
and thriving paper for the next generation. And with that, claiming that the paper was losing 30 to
40 million dollars annually without building toward higher readership or new advertising
and subscription revenues. You also had Business Insider getting rid of 8% of its workers, NBC News
slashing staffers, New York Daily News, Forbes, and Condé Nast holding walkouts amid cost-cutting
measures. Then you've got Pitchfork getting folded into GQ, Sports Illustrated laying off enough staffers
that the entire future of the publication
is like called into question.
And if all of this sounds like so much and a mess, yes.
And if you're wondering,
why does it feel like all of this is happening at once?
There's actually a few reasons.
The way consumers take in the news
is just rapidly changing.
They get pretty much everything on social media,
which means there are less eyeballs
on articles and TV stations.
You've got legacy outlets struggling
to effectively monetize their platforms, especially since they're struggling with online advertising.
And here you have people like Jay Rosen, an associate professor of journalism at New York
University, telling CNN, the ad industry doesn't need the news industry when there are so many
other ways to purchase attention and so many better ways to target users. And so that's left
a lot of newsrooms floundering, especially on local levels. In fact, according to data from
Northwestern, in 2023, the US lost on average two and a half local papers a week.
And that's left 204 counties with no local news outlet.
And then there's just a bunch
with only one local news source.
And they estimate that another 228 counties
are at risk of becoming news deserts in the next five years.
And as you'd expect,
this is largely impacting high poverty areas,
which is absolutely devastating.
You have entire and numerous communities
just losing essential information pipelines,
which you may think is nothing, but there's so much news that becomes big news on
a national level that starts with local reporting. But again, even the big guys are struggling.
Though, you know, when we saw billionaires taking control of outlets like the Washington Post,
the Los Angeles Times, many thought, hey, this is the answer. This is going to be the thing that
solves it. But since both of those outlets just went through major layoffs, clearly that's not
the case. And you have places like The Hollywood Reporter putting out pieces saying,
Unfortunately, it seems no category of owner appears able to salvage a media business in decline,
with business models still stuck in the past
and editorial models built for a world before Facebook, TikTok, and artificial intelligence.
And actually, that last bit, artificial intelligence, is another big issue.
Because while it can be and is used for a number of things,
it can also be very helpful to spread misinformation.
Fake stories, fake pictures, fake videos.
And you've seen how fast fake bullshit
can spread across the internet.
With part of the job of a number of people
who are being fired being debunking misinformation like that.
And when you have this situation
where there's less and less trust
in what the fuck is actually real,
you're left with a larger portion of the population
or the electorate less informed.
Whether it be day to day in your personal and business life
or at the ballot box every two, four, and or six years, it's important to be
informed. Which means on the note of elections, we're already seeing some of this play out. AI
election misinformation scams and experts fear that it is only going to get worse from here.
With Oren Etzioni, an artificial intelligence expert, telling the AP, I expect a tsunami of
misinformation. I can't prove that. I hope to be proven wrong,
but the ingredients are there and I am completely terrified. You can see a political candidate like
President Biden being rushed to a hospital and you can see bombings and violence that never
occurred. And yeah, people could use this to manipulate voters or to just cause chaos.
The fact that this kind of misinformation is increasing while newsroom journalists are
decreasing, it creates the perfect storm. And again, that storm exists outside of politics. I mean, how many times have we covered something on this show where
someone turned to a journalist as their last resort and then finally got justice? They were
finally heard. Some corrupt motherfucker was finally held accountable. As Emily St. Martin
wrote, these stories have the ability to open and change minds, which in turn changes our culture.
But the very big issue is I don't really see this trend changing
in any way. And I don't know how realistic it is for any of these groups to actually evolve
in a way where they're not just bleeding cash, which in turn will connect to a really long
segment I'm going to release soon. Because desperation and need for money, it sometimes
results in not the best stuff. But for now, that is where I'm going to leave this one.
And I want to pass the question off to you. What are your thoughts, your concerns, your feelings
about the picture that's being painted right now? Because it not only falls on all of us as news
consumers, but also people existing in the world. And then finally today, we have Yesterday Today,
that segment for all you beautiful bastards that tune in daily, where we dive into the comments to
see what y'all had to say about yesterday's show. With the first standout being so many people
saying, if you're not growing, you're dying, that you want it on a shirt. In
which case, I'll think about it. Might be able to sneak that into next Tuesday's drop, which will
include your mom's favorite cowboy. Take me first. And we're unvaulting one of the most popular
things we've ever sold. Don't be stupid, gear. Though understandably and thankfully, a lot of
the comments were about the more serious aspects of the news. Cesar Sanchez saying thank you for
highlighting Gaza right after the Super Bowl story. Thanks for not washing over true news. Appreciate you for that. Which I know in this
segment, I often say like this might be a little bit too inside baseball. Whenever we can, we've
been making these tweaks, feeling more comfortable covering like the heavier, just horrendous news at
the top of the show rather than the end. In the past, you know, we wouldn't do that because it
felt like we were more likely to have the show completely suppressed by YouTube and, you know,
it would just die. Like when you see those tweaks, they're usually not for no reason. Also regarding Israel and Rafah, you had the one-ton hammer
saying, how can the area north of Rafah be both cleared and still be a conflict zone? Why would
there be a conflict in a clear area? And others adding, recall that Rafah is where Israel told
Gaza they needed to go to be safe. The initial claims were that if you didn't go south when
they warned people to evacuate their homes, it was your own fault. Then it shifted from going south
to specifically going to Rafah. Now they're bombing Rafah, which they already were doing, but now explicitly. It wasn't that Israel
bombed a place where a lot of people were sheltering. It was that they bombed the only
place they told them to go to be safe. This is why allies are hard-pressed to say nothing. They
know what Israel is on record of saying and how they've yet again gone against it. But then the
final comment we'll touch on regarded strippers' rights, right? Because we talked about the possible
stripper bill of rights that might go through in Washington. With Hypnotwist saying, Washington
State is one of the worst places to dance. Saying,
my sister started her career in North Carolina. She had so much fun that she thought she could
do it when she moved back home, but we live in Washington and she saw such a drastic change.
Not only was she harassed by customers, she was drugged at one point and then blacklisted when
one of the girls got jealous that she was making more money. She had to drive to Oregon every
weekend to make more and better money. In closing, she told me it's great to see the girls are fighting back,
and she's hoping it turns around because dancing is a great career,
but only if the clubs can properly protect the girls.
And Sean Lewis adding, regarding the Washington strippers bill,
I grew up in the east side, and I heard that just recently the last club closed down
since they couldn't make a profit.
Not being able to sell alcohol really limits how a club can make money.
I'm unsure where they can make money without taking money from the dancers or crazy high entrance fees.
Right, and that's why a lot of supporters of the stripper bill of rights say
that this will not work unless they also make it so that these clubs can serve alcohol. But that
is where your daily dive into the news is going to end today. But don't worry, because as always,
my name's Philip DeFranco. You've just been filled in. I love your faces, and I'll see you right back
here tomorrow.