The Philip DeFranco Show - PDS 3.17 We Need To Talk About This Spring Break SHUTDOWN, Trolls, COVID-19 Crackdown, & More
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Sup you beautiful bastards, hope you have a fantastic Tuesday. Welcome back to the Philip DeFranco show. Buckle up, hit that like button
And let's just jump into it. And the first thing we apparently need to talk about today is spring breakers
It appears that while a lot of people have been talking about self quarantining, social distancing
Uh, still a hell of a lot of people are like nah, I'm good bro. People and outlets sharing videos and pictures of what appears to be
Clearwater Beach, South Padre, Texas.
Right, and these posts of course blew up because you had a number of people going like,
are you living in a different reality?
But also because you had celebrities like Shane Dawson pleading,
tweeting, if you live in this area, please text your friends kindly and ask them to go home.
I genuinely don't think people understand how rebelling against social distancing could make this worse for everyone.
Though I will say on the note of like, if you live in the area, contact your friend.
As a former Floridian, I'm pretty confident in saying most of those people probably are not local.
And the thing is if certain specifics to this situation were changed I probably would not get angry.
Right like if the only people who are at risk were the people going to the beach.
Right that would be one thing but it looks like the people involved here, they're young, they're healthy so yeah they'll probably be fine.
But the worry is if they get it, they go home, they give it to grandma or someone that's immunocompromised,
it feels incredibly selfish.
Now I try to remove myself from my own brain.
I try to put myself in someone else's shoes
and I'm like, well maybe they feel like they're being robbed
of a unique experience.
But everyone else is right now.
There is a sacrifice being made.
I think adding on to the anger,
I feel it's like, well you know those people don't have to be there,
this is recreational.
And then it makes me think of the experiences
of everyday Joe and Jane Blow that are still having
to interact with others for their job
because they're living paycheck to paycheck.
That they will unfortunately cross paths
with someone who is ignorant or reckless.
Right, and so I think it's good that we see headlines
from over the weekend like Miami Beach temporarily shut down.
And also, this afternoon we got the news
that the Florida governor announced bars and nightclubs
will be closed for the next 30 days.
All parties accessing public beaches in the state of Florida
must follow the CDC guidance by limiting their gatherings
to no more than 10 people.
And restaurants will now be required
to limit customer entry to 50% capacity.
Once again, to reiterate, not to cause panic,
but just so people are aware and concerned
and act accordingly.
This is a serious issue.
As of recording this video,
there are more than 194,000 confirmed cases.
And just in the United States,
there are over 5,700 known cases,
but of course, remember asterisk.
That's with an incredible lack of testing in this country.
Over 7,800 deaths worldwide.
Internationally, I mean, we saw a big move out of France.
French President Macron announcing that citizens cannot leave their homes. This for 15 days or they'll face
punishment. And then the European Union announced its external borders will be closing for 30 days,
though people within can still travel. Up in New York, you have the New York City Council
Speaker calling for a citywide quarantine, but New York Governor Andrew Cuomo said it would not
happen. Though last night he was on CNN saying that he's been asking Trump for the Army Corps
of Engineers to help him build
hospitals, saying they are not ready for the increased number of cases that they know they are going to get. Also today we saw
New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio saying that a decision will be made within the next 48 hours on whether to order the city's
more than 8 million citizens to shelter in place. That's a similar move to the six counties we talked about in San Francisco yesterday.
Also a thing to consider with this, according to a study that was published today
in the New England Journal of Medicine,
researchers said that the virus that causes COVID-19
remains infectious in the air for up to three hours,
on copper for up to four hours,
on cardboard for up to 24 hours,
and on plastic and stainless steel for up to three days.
So just some things to consider, I guess.
Really the only way that feels appropriate
to end this story is once again, don't be stupid, stupid.
And then let's talk about,
I don't know if it's right to classify it as good news.
It's at the very least interesting
entertainment industry business news.
And what I'm talking about is that Universal
has now announced that The Hunt, The Invisible Man,
and Emma, which are currently in theaters,
will be made available on demand starting on Friday.
And along with that, Trolls World Tour,
which comes out in theaters on Easter, will also be released as a video on demand starting on Friday. And along with that, Trolls World Tour, which comes out in theaters on Easter,
will also be released as a video on demand that same day.
And all four of these movies will cost $19.99
for a 48 hour rental.
With the company adding in a statement,
"'Given the rapidly evolving and unprecedented changes
"'to consumers' daily lives during this difficult time,
"'the company felt that now was the right time
"'to provide this option in the home as well as in theaters.
"'NBC Universal will continue to evaluate the environment
as conditions evolve and will determine
the best distribution strategy in each market
when the current unique situation changes.
Following this, you had a variety of reactions to this news.
Troll star Anna Kendrick tweeted,
"'I'm so happy we can spread the joy
"'while everyone stays safe' with a fair amount of excitement
"'that these pictures are coming to home so quickly
"'and at a time where people really feel
"'like they could use them.'"
But on the other side of this,
you also had a number of people upset
at the cost of a rental being $20.
Though I think the easy argument against that is
this is not a regular sort of release.
The regular model is a movie gets a theatrical release,
there's a lot of money and tickets,
and then not until later down the road do you get,
you know, a rental for $4.99 or $6.99
or whatever it is for you.
Whereas the rental fee here is essentially like
a super, super discounted ticket for your family,
unless you're watching it by yourself,
which hey, no judgment, but I know as someone with two kids,
I'm very excited about this move.
And if anything, I'm very, very interested to see
what kind of numbers we see in the first two weeks
that it has a theatrical and VOD release.
Because if this test does see good numbers,
then maybe we're gonna see the evolution of an industry.
And honestly, I know a lot of things are concerning,
a lot of things are unknown.
If there was a time that this test could be successful, it would be now. With people social distancing, self quarantining,
how many families do you have at home just needing to entertain the children?
Also, it turns out that Universal is not alone with this strategy.
We've seen a number of studios making similar decisions. For example, Warner Brothers will be releasing Birds of Prey starring Margot Robbie to VOD early.
Also, Disney Plus announcing that Frozen 2
and The Rise of Skywalker
will be hitting the streaming service early as well.
With that, there are also online calls
for Disney to release Onward there,
which just came out two weeks ago in theaters.
And one of the big important things to point out
is all of this comes after a few major things.
First of all, for the past week or two,
we've seen major films like the new James Bond movie
push back the release date
because of the coronavirus outbreak.
We also saw reports late Sunday night and early Monday
indicating that The Week weekend's box office
was the worst in 20 years.
The box office as a whole brought in only $55 million
over the weekend, which is a number so low,
usually one movie could make that on its own.
You know, and this is in part because a number of people
are practicing social distancing,
but also because a number of movie theaters
in certain states have been closed.
Right, and so major chains like AMC and Regal
have announced nationwide shutdowns.
And of course, as often is the case,
when someone loses, another wins.
And as far as who wins in this situation,
it's gonna be television and streaming services.
According to Nielsen, during major events
that force people to stay home,
media consumption can increase about 60%.
And that data reportedly comes from findings
when looking at viewing patterns from times
when people were stuck inside due to large weather events.
Also noting that people who work remotely
generally watch three more hours of television each week
than those who work in office.
When it comes to streaming, I mean,
just looking at Disney Plus alone,
reportedly half of the homes in the United States
with kids under the age of 10
have already subscribed to the service.
Right, so now with all these kids stuck at home
with no school, not only are subscription numbers
expected to increase, but also the amount of time
that kids spend watching Disney Plus as well.
But that's kind of the now.
As far as entertainment moving forward, this may actually hurt everyone in the long run.
We're seeing production on TV shows and movies suspending, shutting down.
And right now the impact of this is unknown, but Wired said that right now Hollywood is on track to lose some 20 billion dollars.
But ultimately, like everything about the situation, we're gonna have to wait and see.
And I specifically will be focused on how Trolls World Tour does.
I'm sure Universal would rather not beta test this
with a movie that costs them so much money.
You know, unique times, unique measures.
And the question I'll pass off to you with this is,
whether it be in the interim or, hey, forever, moving forward,
would you like to have a future where theatrical releases
are released for $20 at home?
Is that something that works for you?
Also, if yes, at what price does it not make sense for you?
Or think about how much it costs for theater tickets,
how many tickets do you normally go,
like is it usually a family event?
One, it'll be interesting to hear from you now,
and two, it'll be interesting to see how true
or not true that is when we see Trolls World Tour release.
And then, as you've probably noticed,
the internet has been heavily saturated
with information about COVID-19 in recent weeks.
Some of it accurate and some of it just not.
And the World Health Organization has labeled
this phenomenon an infodemic,
an overabundance of information that makes it hard
for people to find trustworthy sources
and reliable guidance when they need it,
which I know a lot of you are like,
yes, that's literally the only reason we're here.
Now though, to face this pressing issue,
Facebook, Google, LinkedIn, Microsoft, Reddit, Twitter,
and YouTube released a joint statement on Monday
saying that they are working closely together
in the response efforts, writing,
"'We're helping millions of people stay connected
"'while also jointly combating fraud and misinformation
"'about the virus, elevating authoritative content
"'on our platform, and sharing critical updates
"'in coordination with government healthcare agencies
"'around the world,' and adding,
"'We invite other companies to join us
"'as we work to keep our communities healthy and safe.'"
Now, as far as how they plan to tackle misinformation
over the past few weeks, each company announced
and updated its own individual strategy.
Facebook and Instagram, for instance, already banned ads
and listings selling medical face masks,
with product director Robert Leather
in promising more action if the company sees people
trying to exploit this public health emergency.
On top of that, the site's rolled out
automatic pop-up cards featuring information
from the World Health Organization
and other health authorities authorities among other measures.
Facebook's COO Sheryl Sandberg even said that Facebook,
which has a policy of not checking political ads
posted by politicians, would remove coronavirus
misinformation shared by politicians, celebrities,
and private groups.
Meanwhile, you have Reddit setting up a banner on its site
linking to the coronavirus subreddit.
This for timely discussions and information
from the Centers for Disease Control.
We've also seen Reddit say that it will hold AMAs,
right, Ask Me Anythings with public health experts.
Additionally, they've warned that they may apply
a quarantine to communities that contain hoax
or misinformation content.
Right, and here, essentially a quarantine
will remove the community from search results,
warn the user that it may contain misinformation
and require an explicit opt-in.
Then, as far as Twitter, they said that they will be
monitoring tweets during the outbreak,
but warned that they're relying more on automated systems
to help enforce rules while they support social distancing
and working from home.
With the company saying this might result in some mistakes,
but adding, we're meeting daily to see what changes
we need to make.
Here though, the platform did stress
that it will not permanently suspend accounts
based solely on automated enforcement systems.
Also saying that it would review its rules
in the context of COVID-19 and consider the quote,
ways in which they may need to evolve
to account for new account behavior.
Similarly, Google warned customers to expect some changes
while its employees work remotely.
In a blog post saying that its products will be active,
but quote,
"'Some users, advertisers, developers, and publishers
"'may experience delays in some support response times
"'for non-critical services,
"'which will now be supported primarily
"'through our chat, email, and self-service channels.'"
YouTube specifically warning that there may actually be
an increase in videos that are removed
for policy violations
because like Twitter, they are depending more
on automated systems.
However, YouTube explained that it will only issue strikes
against uploads where it has quote,
"'high confidence' that the video violates its terms."
Now of course, creators can appeal this decision,
but notably, it is incredibly likely and should be expected
that there will be a delay in the response time.
All right, so potentially concerning situation
because I feel, you know, once you get humans out of the process,
it feels a little bit like the policy is
a Jesus take the wheel.
But ultimately as far as the effectiveness,
the potential errors, the fallout from this,
we're gonna have to wait to see what that is.
And then let's talk about prisoners
because it's actually incredibly important
to include prisoners in our discussions
about the coronavirus and public health
for a number of reasons.
And this is actually especially true in the United States,
which has the highest prison and jail population
in the world by far,
with 2.3 million people in prisons, jails,
psychiatric hospitals, immigration detention centers,
and other similar facilities.
And in fact, according to the Prison Policy Initiative,
even the states with the lowest incarceration rates
still lock up more people
than nearly every other country in the world.
Now, a thing with these facilities
is that they are super high risk
when it comes to the spread of the coronavirus.
I mean, kind of just think about it.
The vast majority of incarcerated people
cannot social distance.
Right, in US prisons you have multiple people sharing cells,
often upwards of four.
You have this huge group of people sharing bathrooms,
eating areas, laundry facilities.
Often they live in incredibly unsanitary conditions.
Oftentimes toilets don't have lids, they double as sinks.
So you get people washing their hands
and brushing their teeth there.
And that's even when they can wash their hands.
In some places soap might only be available
if you buy it at commissary.
That in itself discourages proper hygiene
and it's actually made worse by the fact
that almost all prisons do not allow hand sanitizer
because of its alcohol content.
And all of that is made even worse
by a number of other structural issues.
Prisoners are notoriously underserved medically.
In many places basic medical care
is often delayed or denied.
This making it more likely that if there was
a virus spreading, it might not be detected
or it might just be brushed off as the flu.
What's more, this was news to me,
a large percentage of prisoners are already considered
at-risk populations.
According to the New York Times,
around 40% of incarcerated people suffer
from chronic health conditions,
meaning some of them are immunocompromised.
And reportedly, there are about 274,000 people
that are 50 or older in state and federal prisons. Now, at this point,
you might be thinking, well, if there is a coronavirus outbreak in a prison, at least it's
going to be contained. That is not true. Those facilities have tons of people going in and out
every day, including employees, healthcare workers, vendors, visitors, educators, and more.
In some towns, a local jail or prison is a major employer. And to make matters worse,
more than half of the people in jails are only in there for two or three days.
There are also concerns regarding
homeless populations here as well.
This according to an expert who works
at both local jails and homeless shelters saying,
"'There's a lot of overlap between jailed
"'and homeless population.
"'Someone released from a jail then could infect someone
"'in a homeless shelter or vice versa,
"'causing an outbreak that could bounce back and forth
"'between both places, infecting far more people
"'than would be in a jail or homeless shelter alone.'"
Right, so there's a lot of in and out,
meaning that it wouldn't just be bad
for the inmate population, but for everyone.
And according to Dr. Homer Venters,
the former chief medical officer
of the New York City jail system,
coronavirus in these settings will dramatically increase
the epidemic curve, not flatten it,
and disproportionately for people of color.
Right, and so as far as what should prisons
and other facilities do, you know,
you do have experts suggesting pretty basic solutions
like making hand washing and other good hygiene practices easier know, you do have experts suggesting pretty basic solutions like making hand washing
and other good hygiene practices easier and more accessible.
Others also recommending canceling activities
and non-medical visits, especially near areas
that already have an outbreak.
But also, some experts have now pointed to recent guidance
by the Washington Association of Sheriffs and Police Chiefs,
where in addition to screening staff
and people who are arrested,
the guidance also recommends a couple
of more unconventional possibilities.
Things like releasing some inmates
either permanently or temporarily.
Also asking police to consider scaling down arrests
for certain crimes so you have fewer people
getting thrown into the mix.
And in fact, already there are some places
that are taking precautions.
Last week, the Federal Department of Correction
announced visits from family, friends, and attorneys
will be stopped in all 122 federal correctional facilities
in the United States.
Also after an employee at a correctional facility
in Pennsylvania tested positive,
34 inmates and staffers were quarantined.
The New York City Department of Correction
is screening people for flu-like symptoms
and looking at other measures,
which they will likely ramp up after it was reported
yesterday that a Department of Correction investigator
died from the coronavirus.
And even more significantly,
some places have even started releasing inmates.
According to reports, hundreds of inmates were released
from a county jail in Ohio over the weekend.
Yesterday, the Los Angeles County Sheriff
also announced that it was releasing some inmates
as well as cutting down on how many people
they were bringing into custody.
This is also happening in other countries as well.
If you didn't see, Iran has temporarily released
a total of 85,000 prisoners.
There's also pressure in other countries as well.
I mean, before Italy was completely shut down,
we talked about jailbreaks in the country,
specifically in Milan.
There's over concerns that the prison population
was not being properly cared for amid the outbreak.
According to reports, 16 prisoners were able to break free.
They're still at large.
Though that number is nothing compared to Brazil,
where reportedly hundreds of prisoners
escaped from four different prisons.
This reportedly in connection over fears
around the coronavirus and anger over Easter holidays
and visits being canceled.
But ultimately, that's where we are with this right now.
It is gonna be very interesting to see, you know,
how the situation with prisons and jails
develops internationally,
but also specifically with the United States.
Because once again, we just have such a high number
of people incarcerated.
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