The Philip DeFranco Show - PDS 4.2 Why People Are Freaking Out On Justin Bieber, Kashoggi Payoffs, Nipsey Hussle Update, & More

Starting point is 00:00:00 Sup you beautiful bastards, hope you're having a fantastic Tuesday. Welcome back to the Philip DeFranco Show and let's just jump into it. And the first thing we're gonna talk about today, because we like to sometimes start with our stupid and or light story of the day before we go into the truly dark, is who are people angry at today news? And the answer is an oldie, but a goodie, Justin Bieber. Yesterday, if you didn't see, Justin Bieber seemed to announce that he and Hailey Bieber, formerly Baldwin, were having a child by posting a picture of a sonogram on Instagram. Bieber then followed that up with a post that said,

Starting point is 00:00:26 "'If you thought it was April Fools'," with a photo showing Hailey surrounded by what appeared to be medical professionals. And then finally, Justin Bieber followed it up with another post admitting that it was, in fact, an April Fools joke. That post reading, "'Wait, oh my God, is that a April Fools?'

Starting point is 00:00:38 with this photo of a little puppy." As far as the reaction, well, I mean, you had some people that weren't tricked. You had some initially realizing this has to be a joke when they uncovered that the first picture that he posted was actually on the Wikipedia page for ultrasound. And while you saw many fans and just general people kind of laughing it off as a pretty standard April Fool's joke, because that's what was happening, some people took issue with him seemingly joking about what they saw as a serious topic. Some of the responses that gained some traction included,

Starting point is 00:01:00 Justin Bieber lying about Hailey being pregnant is beyond disrespectful. One in four women suffer from infertility, miscarriages, stillborn babies. How fucking disrespectful. April Fools are not. Fake pregnancy announcements are fucking disgusting. Are we still doing this in 2019? And in another tweet adding, I'm one in four and I for one did not find this funny at all. I hope no one in his family ever experience a miscarriage or lose a baby. The feeling never goes away. Others simply calling it gross and insensitive. You got the idea. On the other side of this, you had a lot of people saying that people were blowing this out of proportion. You had people saying it's a common prank,

Starting point is 00:01:28 it would have been a different situation if for some reason he joked about Hailey not being able to get pregnant, or if they had joked about infertility or miscarriages. But Justin has now responded to the backlash on Instagram saying, There's always gonna be people offended. There's also people who don't take jokes very well. I am a prankster and it was April Fool's. He goes on to say that he had no ill intent, saying, but I will apologize anyway and take responsibility and say sorry it was April Fool's. He goes on to say that he had no ill intent, saying, but I will apologize anyway and take responsibility and say sorry to people who were offended. Then going on to say,

Starting point is 00:01:49 it's like when I shoved cake in my little sister's face for her birthday, expecting her to laugh, but she cried. You sometimes just don't know what will hurt someone's feelings. Not to compare pregnancy with cake in the face, but it's just to paint the picture of not knowing what will offend. Some might have laughed, but some were offended.

Starting point is 00:02:00 So there's that. I personally don't think that he needed to apologize. I personally feel for the woman that said that she had a miscarriage, women who go through that horrible moment in life. I know from having women around me who have gone through that, how immensely horrible that is,

Starting point is 00:02:13 while at the same time never being able to fully understand what that's like. But in my personal opinion, there is nothing about Justin Bieber's post that is disrespectful or an attack on you. It was done on April 1st, April Fool's Day, by a guy who is in the limelight to the point where he's essentially like a glorified zoo animal.

Starting point is 00:02:30 And given the industry that has been built around him to comment on every single thing that he does and seek him out to photograph and to track and talk about anything in posts publicly, he used that position to pull a prank on people that are overly interested in his life. I think the fact that we're not only talking about this on my show where my main point of this is

Starting point is 00:02:45 People had a big reaction. I think it's crazy. We're in a place where this is getting covered by CNN and Fox News That's wild. And so actually if anything I kind of commend Justin Bieber for trolling people here, but that said that's a story My personal opinion and I'd love to know your thoughts on this and then I feel like just at least briefly we should talk About brexit. This is of course something we've talked about, we've covered and tracked since 2016. It's been a little bit since we talked about it because there's not a ton to say about a story that's like, hey, everyone's saying they're gonna vote no. Oh look, they voted no.

Starting point is 00:03:12 Last time we talked about this, the EU gave the UK a short extension. On March 27th, Prime Minister Theresa May says that she'll step down after quote, a smooth and orderly Brexit. Maybe she was just stating facts, maybe she was using that as a way to say, hey, don't you wanna vote for my Brexit deal?

Starting point is 00:03:25 I'll get the hell out of here. And March 29th, what we ended up getting, not a surprise, the Brexit deal fails to pass by a vote of 344 to 286. Then on April 1st, we see the four alternatives to Theresa May's deal fail for a second time. And the news that we're getting today is that Theresa May is saying that she needs a short extension again from the EU, saying that it is necessary and that she is willing to compromise with the Labour Party. But ultimately where we stand now, the UK has 10 days to get a plan they can agree on to the EU or their own. Also, as we talked about in our previous coverage,

Starting point is 00:03:51 the EU elections are very soon. So for now, we're gonna have to see if there is some sort of compromise that can be reached. Also, would the EU grant another extension? We've seen them previously say they're only okay with a long-term extension if there is some sort of political reboot in the UK. But yeah, that's where we are right now. I'll be sure to dive into this story deeper when something actually happens.

Starting point is 00:04:09 Really, a lot of talking about the Brexit story feels a little bit like reporting on Lucy holding a football and then pulling it out of the way when Charlie Brown tries to kick it. It's like we know the setup looks like something is going to happen, but ultimately we're always gonna be disappointed. Ultimately, there's gonna be no movement, everyone's gonna be angry and embarrassed, but at least with Lucy's situation, someone got joy. Yeah, there was that. Then let's talk about the updates around the horrible Nipsey Hussle situation

Starting point is 00:04:31 we covered yesterday. Part of this involves the vigil, part of this involves the suspect. Regarding the vigil, around 300 fans gathered to mourn the loss of Nipsey Hussle outside of his Marathon clothing shop in South Los Angeles. It was the same area where he was gunned down Sunday afternoon, but that memorial ended abruptly

Starting point is 00:04:45 when multiple people were trampled and local authorities began forming containment lines. With reports saying that at least 19 people were injured in what turned into a stampede. And according to Los Angeles Police Chief Michael Moore, it is not immediately clear what caused this panic at the memorial. We had initial reports suggesting

Starting point is 00:04:58 that gunfire had broken out. However, police later confirmed that no shots had actually been fired. You also have people like musician DeAndre Harvey, who was at the memorial telling the LA Times that the event was initially peaceful, with fans and friends passing around a megaphone, sharing stories about Nipsey.

Starting point is 00:05:10 But Harvey said that things changed after there was a fight that broke out. That fight caused liquor bottles and candles to break, which then caused some in the crowd to think that it was a shooting. And as far as those injuries, the Los Angeles Fire Department said that the majority of the victims

Starting point is 00:05:20 had non-life-threatening trample injuries. However, at least two of the patients had critical injuries and two others had serious injuries, with one person being injured after being struck by a car, while another suffered a penetrating wound of an unknown cause. And according to a police spokeswoman, there was also a police officer who was injured as well.

Starting point is 00:05:33 Reportedly, some threw rocks and bottles at police officers who were clearing the area, and at least one person was detained for disorderly conduct. So that was the vigil, but then of course, there's the big question of who did this? Why did they do this? And regarding that, late last night,

Starting point is 00:05:44 Los Angeles police released the name of a suspect who they believe shot and killed Hussle and injured two others That alleged gunman has been identified as 29 year old Eric Holder According to Chief Moore Holder approached Nipsey and a group of people and engaged in a dispute over what was described as a personal matter Before leaving with Moore saying we believe they were known to each other Holder then returned and walked up to the men firing several shots at them before fleeing into an alley where sedan was waiting and that sedan Was driven by a woman who has not yet been identified. We saw the police department saying on Twitter He was last seen in a 2016 white four-door Chevy Cruze, California license plate 7RJD742 Anyone with information related to his whereabouts or this deadly shooting is urged to contact South Bureau homicide

Starting point is 00:06:19 You can tell the community involvement here has been key not only in people mourning the loss of Nipsey Hussle, talking about his message that we need to move forward with that message, but also in actually identifying Eric Holder, Police Chief Moore saying that Holder was identified not only thanks to surveillance video, but statements and information from the community, adding, I cannot thank enough that the community is the one who is helping us solve this case. And of course, remember, this is a developing situation.

Starting point is 00:06:40 This is where we are right now. As things are updated, I'll try to keep updates in the description, top pinned comment comment or just in tomorrow's video And then let's talk about the news and updates regarding Jamal Khashoggi Now we talked about this story a lot last fall and we'll link to the previous coverage But here is a quick TLDR. Khashoggi was a Saudi journalist Who was critical of the Saudi government and the crown prince Mohammed bin Salman MBS. Khashoggi ended up leaving Saudi Arabia over fear for his safety He was living in the United States and then back in October

Starting point is 00:07:04 He disappeared after he entered a Saudi consulate in Turkey leaving Saudi Arabia over fear for his safety. He was living in the United States, and then back in October, he disappeared after he entered a Saudi consulate in Turkey. The Saudis initially claimed that he had left the consulate, but Turkish officials claimed that he was killed inside. And since October, the Saudis have continually shifted their story on what actually happened and where Khashoggi was. But that said, they have repeatedly denied

Starting point is 00:07:17 the prince or the government ordered the killing or had any knowledge of it beforehand. Though they did ultimately acknowledge that he was killed in the consulate, they said it was by people not connected to the government. And the last time we really dug into this was back in November when we saw two huge updates to the story.

Starting point is 00:07:29 First, the Saudi government announced that they had 21 people in custody, that they'd indicted 11 people involved in Khashoggi's killing, and that they were seeking the death penalty for five of those people. And soon after, the United States announced that it was placing sanctions on 17 individuals involved in Khashoggi's killing.

Starting point is 00:07:41 And secondly, we saw multiple reports that a CIA investigation into the murder concluded that MBS had in fact ordered Khashoggi's killing. And secondly, we saw multiple reports that a CIA investigation into the murder concluded that MBS had in fact ordered Khashoggi's killing. And reportedly the CIA came to this conclusion based on intercepted communications, but they had no direct evidence implicating MBS. And in response to this, we saw Donald Trump outright deny the CIA's findings and say he believed MBS. What if the crown prince speaking to you, the president of the United States directly lied to you? Well, that he told me that he had nothing to do with it. He told me that I would say maybe five times at different points. So what if he's as recently as a few days ago? Do you just live with it because you need him? Well, will anybody really know? All right. Will anybody really know? But

Starting point is 00:08:19 he did have certainly people that were reasonably close to him and close to him that were probably involved. You saw we put on very heavy sanctions, massive sanctions on a large group of people from Saudi Arabia. But at the same time, we do have an ally and I want to stick with an ally that in many ways has been very good. With all that said, since we last talked about Khashoggi, a lot has happened. I'm going to try to break this down for you. We're going to try and quickly run through some of the key updates. But please know this is not everything that has happened over the last four months regarding Trump We've seen him maintain that same hard line that MBS didn't order the killings

Starting point is 00:08:50 But this has been continually rebuked by the Senate including top Trump allies back in December You had CIA director Gina Haspel who of course was nominated by Trump briefing senators on the CIA's report on the killing during a closed-door meeting and the senators that came out of that meeting were convinced that MBS or the killing Lindsey Graham who is often a strong supporter of Trump now said you can be assured it was meeting and the senators that came out of that meeting were convinced that MBS ordered the killing. Lindsey Graham, who is often a strong supporter of Trump now, said, Continuing, is not evidence to suggest it. And just a few days later, the Senate unanimously approved a measure that stated that the US Senate believed MBS was responsible for Khashoggi's murder in a massive rebuke of Trump.

Starting point is 00:09:29 And along with that, the Senate also voted in favor of ending US involvement in the Saudi-led war in Yemen. In February, we had Agnes Calamard, the UN human rights expert that was leading the independent inquiry into the murder, releasing her preliminary observations from her visit to Turkey. And among other things, the expert stated in her findings

Starting point is 00:09:43 that the evidence presented to her team demonstrated that quote Mr. Khashoggi was the victim of a brutal and premeditated killing planned and perpetrated by officials of the state of Saudi Arabia and others acting under the direction of these state agents Another thing we saw that same month as we saw the Trump administration refused to submit a report to Congress drawing a conclusion about whether Or not MBS was responsible for killing Khashoggi Which was very notable because Trump was actually required to submit the report under the rules of the Magnitsky Act, which requires the White House to carry out an investigation

Starting point is 00:10:08 into any foreign human rights abuses and issue some kind of judgment. And like we talked about in our previous coverage, Congress triggered the act back in October, which gave Donald Trump 120 days to make a determination about the royal family's responsibility for the murder and then take some kind of action, usually sanctions. But Trump has refused to comply.

Starting point is 00:10:22 But with all that said, it brings us to the most recent update. Yesterday it was reported that Khashoggi's children have received million dollar houses in Saudi Arabia and five figure monthly payments as compensation from the Saudi government. According to Saudi officials, as well as people close to the family,

Starting point is 00:10:35 the houses are worth $4 million each and individual payments of $10,000 or more are made to every one of the siblings every month. With one official telling the Washington Post that this agreement was approved last year by King Salman himself. And the official telling the Washington Post that this agreement was approved last year by King Salman himself. And the official described the payments as an acknowledgement that a quote,

Starting point is 00:10:47 "'Big injustice' has been done and an attempt quote, to make a wrong right." And reportedly in addition to the houses, in addition to the monthly payments, all four of Khashoggi's children could receive tens of millions of dollars each. All reportedly in separate payouts from negotiations when the trials of Khashoggi's accused killers

Starting point is 00:11:02 are concluded in the next few months. And these payments aren't damages paid to the siblings, they're blood money. Regarding this last part, that's actually not uncommon there. Accepting blood money is a normal and legal practice in the Saudi legal system. And so in this system, because as we talked about earlier, five of the suspects in the Khashoggi case could face the death penalty, if those suspects are convicted, there are two options. One, they're sentenced to death, or two, the Khashoggi family could request financial compensation as an alternate punishment. It's not clear whether the family would have to pardon the killers in order to get the money,

Starting point is 00:11:27 but this kind of agreement could close the case under Saudi law. Which means that MBS, Mohammed Bonesaw, or his senior aides that are believed to be involved in this murder would never have to face any kind of trial. And so it seems like paying off Khashoggi's kids would be in their best interest. But with all that said, the trials for the killing still have to conclude before this course of action could even happen. And despite the money and the homes that have already been given to Khashoggi's kids, we don't know what actions the family will take. And so for now, that's the situation.

Starting point is 00:11:49 We're gonna have to wait to see what happens next. As far as my reaction to this, I'm not really surprised. If despite all of the intelligence we're getting, right, all the evidence where it says, yes, MBS was a part of this, our White House is not going to hold them accountable, how did we ever expect that Saudi Arabia would hold him accountable?

Starting point is 00:12:03 You have a Saudi trial that's been described as cloaked in secrecy. The kids who have been extremely quiet about what has been happening, it turns out they're getting a ton of money. You know, you can have a Saudi official who's defended this saying, you know, it's part of our custom and culture.

Starting point is 00:12:14 It really just seems like paying for a get out of jail free card. Right, everyone has the knowledge that eventually people are gonna forget, people are gonna move on to the next thing, and people have. And I also can't imagine what this does to the mindset of journalists. The indifference they see when they report on the horrible, the indifference they see at some of the

Starting point is 00:12:29 highest levels of power when they are killed. It's just crazy to see and imagine you just have to have such a strong will. But of course, that's the story as we see it now. Some of my personal takeaway, and I pass the question off to you. What are your thoughts around this? And that's where I'm going to end today's show. And remember, if you like this video, you want to support what we do here for free, just hit that like button. Also, if you like this video, you wanna support what we do here for free, just hit that like button. Also, if you're new here, you want more of this into your daily life, just hit subscribe,

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The Philip DeFranco Show - PDS 4.2 Why People Are Freaking Out On Justin Bieber, Kashoggi Payoffs, Nipsey Hussle Update, & More

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