The Philip DeFranco Show - PDS 4.21 The Justin Bieber Problem, Pope Francis Dead at 88 from Stroke, & A New Pete Hegseth Scandal
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Pope Francis just died at the age of 88, and we're now learning about the cause of death and who is most likely to replace him. And we could be looking at a dramatically different kind of
church. The Justin Bieber problem is getting bigger and bigger, but there's a disagreement
about what the problem is. Pete Hegseth has now found himself in another texting scandal,
and then a good news story to help keep you sane. We're talking about all that and much more on today's brand new Philip DeFranco
show, you daily dive into the news, starting with this. Pope Francis is dead at 88 years old,
and we've got to talk about what happened, what happens next, and what it all means.
Right, but starting with his death, we can say that it's a total shock, right? He's been out
of the hospital for about a month after spending five weeks there and nearly dying from a case of double pneumonia.
With his doctors reportedly telling him
to take it easy for at least two months
and to avoid crowds and situations
where he could be exposed to germs.
So with that, I'll say notably by early April,
his health had reportedly begun to improve.
And Francis, I mean, he was already known
for putting the church above his health
and he seemingly wasn't taking it all that easy,
at least for an 88 year old man.
Earlier this month, he made an unexpected visit to St. Peter's Basilica. Last week, he greeted hospital and other medical staff
to thank them for nursing him back to health. And last Thursday, which was Holy Thursday for
Catholics, he met with dozens of inmates at a prison near the Vatican. And then on top of all
that, he actually had been gradually increasing his meetings with Vatican officials, and he
recently met with a king and queen of the UK. But then it's also seeing yesterday him meeting
briefly with American Vice President,
JD Vance, before appearing to bless the tens of thousands
gathered in St. Peter's Square for Easter mass.
And so with all that, I mean, just yesterday,
you had so many outlets speaking about his continuing
or ongoing recovery, which is why despite knowing
how fragile his health was, it was pretty sudden
when the Vatican announced that at 735 this morning,
the Pope had quote, returned to the house of the father.
With the Vatican later revealing that a stroke
and subsequent heart failure was the cause of death.
So then with that, you had mourners beginning gathering back
in St. Peter's Square, and you had leaders
all around the world offering their condolences,
including from the US, of course.
With J.D. Vance, for example, who was baptized
as a Catholic in 2019, paying tribute to the Pope
in a post to X, writing,
"'My heart goes out to the millions of Christians
all over the world who loved him.
I was happy to see him yesterday, though he was obviously very ill, but I'll always remember him
for the below homily he gave in the very early days of COVID. It was really quite beautiful.
May God rest his soul. And also with that, you had Trump writing on Truth Social, rest in peace,
Pope Francis, may God bless him and all who loved him. The wall of that is notably, Francis said,
openly and repeatedly criticized Trump. I mean, as far back as 2016, for example, he questioned then candidate Trump's faith,
saying at the time,
a person who thinks only about building walls
and not of building bridges is not Christian.
And then more recently,
he had Francis referring to Trump's plan
to ramp up deportations as a disgrace,
and also claiming that his immigration crackdown
was driving a major crisis
that damages the dignity of men and women.
Right, and then beyond that,
while the plight and wellbeing of migrants
was a major focus of Francis,
he'd been described by some as the woke Pope
for his relatively progressive views on other issues,
including gender, sexuality, conflict, and climate change.
Or with his most controversial moves among some Catholics,
probably being to express support for the LGBTQ community
and same-sex civil unions.
And that is in addition to things like taking steps
to improve the gender balance in the church, right?
Increasing the number of women working at the Vatican,
including those in leadership positions.
And so with that, you know, Francis's tenure,
it's widely been seen as having deepened divisions
within the Catholic church in general,
and perhaps especially in the United States.
And so now, you know, the big question
that everyone's asking this time around
is whether the person who succeeds him
will be someone interested in preserving his legacy
and continuing his work or unraveling it.
You know, understand, even if you are not Catholic,
the answer to that question, it's not something to ignore.
There are roughly 1.4 billion Catholics around the world
and at least 50 million in the US,
and the Pope, I mean, he has real influence.
And so with that, we need to talk about a number of things,
starting with what exactly Francis' influence has been.
Because while he may be the so-called wokest Pope yet,
that's by Pope standards.
Like he never went so far as to endorse same-sex marriage
or the idea of women being priests
with some feeling like he never went far enough
with his calls for reform.
And then notably on the issue of rampant child abuse
in the church, he got mixed reviews.
Right on one hand, a few years ago,
he announced sweeping changes to the way
that the church deals with cases of sexual abuse.
But more recently, he'd been accused of opposing reforms
that would seriously address the problem
of clerical sexual abuse of children and vulnerable adults.
And that is some accused him of turning a blind eye
to priests who assault nuns
and force them to have abortions.
And similarly, while he urged all members of the church
to never cover up sexual abuse,
he himself was accused of having knowledge
of allegations against American Cardinal Theodore McCarrick.
With in fact, a Vatican investigation
eventually finding he had been aware of allegations
and rumors regarding McCarrick's behavior,
but believe that those allegations had been reviewed
and rejected by his predecessors.
But even with all that, right, his fiercest critics,
I mean, those were conservatives and traditionalists.
With some claiming he had abandoned traditions,
undermined the church's moral teachings,
and one archbishop even branding him a heretic
and getting excommunicated.
And in another case, you had hundreds of priests
and Catholic scholars signing an open letter
urging him to reverse his decision to approve blessings to be conferred upon people in same-sex relationships.
With notably, Francis firing back and denouncing what he described as their hypocrisy in saying,
Nobody gets scandalized if I give my blessings to a businessman who perhaps exploits people, and this is a very grave sin, but they get scandalized if I give them to a homosexual.
And notably with that, Francis was at times especially at odds with Catholics in the United States.
And I mean, in 2023, for example,
Francis blasted what he saw as the backwardness
of some conservatives in the States.
With him saying it, they had replaced faith with ideology
and that a correct understanding of Catholic doctrine
allows for change over time.
And then even as he was criticizing Trump,
some Catholic leadership in the United States
is seemingly sided with Mac.
And so for example, in 2021,
he saw things like some bishops issuing guidance that would deny the sacrament of communion
to Catholic politicians who publicly support and advance abortion rights, such as Joe Biden. And
although they mostly backed off after the Vatican warned against using the Eucharist as a political
weapon, with Francis preaching that communion is not the reward of saints, but the bread of sinners,
some still defied him. I mean, you had the Archbishop of San Francisco saying specifically
that Nancy Pelosi
would not be permitted to receive communion
in his archdiocese unless she was willing
to publicly repudiate her stance on abortion.
Now, as we're in Trump 2.0 land,
I mean, we've seen bishops applauding
the administration's initiative, supporting school choice,
rolling back federal support for gender transitions,
and requiring foreign agencies receiving USAID
to certify that they don't provide or promote abortion.
And so that's why with all this,
you have some saying that the Trump administration
is not above trying to steer the election
for the next Pope in its favor.
This for example, seeing one observer of Vatican politics
telling Politico,
they've already influenced European politics,
they'd have no problem influencing the conclave.
And adding, they might be looking
for someone less confrontational.
Now, of course, you know, that said,
it's not clear exactly how the administration
would manage that,
but it would be a huge mistake
to take the process of selecting a new pope
as not political.
Right, as you may or may not know,
the way that it works is that within the next 15
to 20 days or so, the more than 250 members
of what is known as the College of Cardinals,
they're gonna gather in Rome
for what's known as a conclave.
Though notably, only those under 80 years of age
are actually allowed to vote.
And so they enter the Sistine Chapel,
they swear an oath of secrecy,
and then they vote by secret ballot. And in fact, a two-thirds, they swear an oath of secrecy, and then they vote by secret ballot.
And in fact, a two-thirds majority
is needed to elect a new pope.
And they just vote again and again
until this two-thirds majority emerges.
So this is maybe you've seen on some screen
after every vote, smoke is released through a chimney
that can be seen from St. Peter's Square.
When a vote ends without a two-thirds majority,
the smoke is black.
And when a decision is reached, the smoke is white.
But also, you know, in reality,
there is so much more to it.
Right, for one, Francis did all that he could
to influence the eventual outcome before he died,
seemingly trying to pack the College of Cardinals
with like-minded candidates.
Take Mykola Bouchok, for example,
an Australian-based Ukrainian bishop
who advocated for legislation to help migrants
and refugees settle in foreign countries.
With him last year, at 44 years old,
leapfrogging more experienced
and higher- higher profile Catholic leaders
to become the world's youngest cardinal.
Which very important here,
it makes him one of 138 cardinals out of 252 in total,
eligible to vote for the next Pope.
And this is notably 110 of them,
they've been appointed by Francis, which is about 80%.
But even with that being the case,
you have experts saying it is far from certain
that you're gonna get another Francis.
But seeing, for example, Austin Ivory,
who's written a biography on the now deceased Pope saying,
to say he has stacked the College of Cardinals
is not quite right.
And adding, the idea that these cardinals
will necessarily think like Francis is complete nonsense.
It's trite.
They're highly intelligent people who think for themselves.
And it's also not just that, right?
The Vatican is also no stranger
to lobbying and backroom dealing.
So for example, while those older cardinals,
they can't vote,
far fewer of them were appointed
by Francis and they can play a key role
in behind closed door discussions
that take place ahead of time.
And in fact, ahead of the 2013 conclave,
Francis himself reportedly benefited
from the influence of a group of cardinals
who were too old to participate in the proceedings,
but still were able to influence the outcome.
And a key thing is at least according to some,
those cardinals, they are not afraid to play dirty.
With this saying, for example,
a former senior Vatican official telling the Sunday Times, most cardinals have some kind of
a sin, whether it's money, a boyfriend, or a love child. Everyone knows which cardinals have works
of art that they can't afford or who visits the gay saunas. And then adding, if for whatever reason
someone needs to be removed from contention, then that information is deployed by a rival faction.
And so with that, according to the College of Cardinals report, which is a project run by an
independent team of Catholic journalists
and researchers, there are at least 22 real contenders here.
And on major issues, including those dividing liberals
and conservatives, like ordaining female deacons,
blessing same-sex couples, and openness to divorce
and remarriage, they're all over the place.
So for example, you have the likes of Cardinals,
Matteo Zupi and Luis Antonio Tagle.
Right, and so Zupi, he was among Francis' closest allies,
and so he'd likely keep things headed in the same direction.
And then Antonio Tagle, he could be similar as well, right?
He's criticized the church's attitude and language
towards gay people, unwed mothers,
and divorced or remarried Catholics.
Also, being from the Philippines,
he'd actually ended up being the first Asian pope
in modern history.
And I specify modern history
because as some have pointed out,
the first pope, St. Peter, as well as some other popes,
they've come from the Middle East, which can also be considered Western Asia.
But in any case, right, it would be pretty notable to have one from this century, especially since Catholicism is on the rise in many parts of Asia, as well as Africa, unlike in the United States
and Europe. And actually with that, another name that's been floated is Cardinal Peter Turkson.
In Turkson, he's from Ghana. He'd be the first confirmed black African Pope. And he's kind of
been the Vatican's lead man
on climate change as well as spoken out
against anti-LGBTQ legislation in his home country.
He's also in the past been accused of anti-Muslim sentiment,
having once shown a video sharing false statistics
to claim that France would become an Islamic Republic
within 39 years.
Now also, in addition to Turkson,
there's another contender to be the first black African Pope
and that's Robert Serra from Guinea.
Though I will say his views are very different.
He's branded so-called gender ideology as demonic
and talks similarly about what he's described
as Islamic fanaticism.
Also speaking of possible leading candidates
on the conservative side,
you have Cardinal Peter Erdő from Hungary.
He is notably close to Hungarian autocrat, Viktor Orban,
which makes it unsurprising
that he's been vocal on immigration,
reportedly having once compared the act
of taking
in refugees to human trafficking.
But in any case, finally, you also have someone
like Cardinal Pietro Parolin,
who's now the Vatican secretary of state.
Parolin, he's seen as more of a moderate figure
who could potentially appeal to both liberals
and conservatives with one unnamed Vatican insider
reportedly telling the Telegraph,
he's very experienced and that could count for a lot
in these times of turbulence.
He could be seen as a steady hand at the tiller.
But even then, there's more names to consider
with different outlets publishing their own lists
of top contenders that are all different
and include several names I didn't mention here.
But for now, we're gonna have to wait to see what happens,
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But then shifting to very different news,
is Justin Bieber okay?
And also, is it even fair for media outlets
to be trying to answer that question?
That is a conversation that we've been seeing play out
for a while now, but it also took a very new shape
after Coachella this weekend.
Right in that, because this video went viral
showing him smoking at a party at a festival
and also swaying and dancing to music,
at one point nodding to one of his own songs.
But then tons of people responding to those clips
with concern, thinking that he just looks out of it
and commenting things like,
"'I'm sorry, but he doesn't look okay.
"'He's not just having fun.
"'He's definitely under some hard influence.'
"'As well as I'm mad that the people around him
"'are not doing anything,
"'and you can clearly see he needs help.'"
But then over on Twitter, you had people comparing him
to other pop stars who have passed with some adding, "'Someone needs to check up on Justin Bieber, man. And while with this,
some have defended him, noting that every moment of his life is analyzed by people trying to read
into every single detail. This is also far from the first time in recent months that people have
been worried about Justin Bieber. If you don't follow him, you might not have seen, but he's
been posting kind of cryptic messages on Instagram, calling himself unworthy and unequipped and adding
that he feels like he's drowning while also telling people to let go of hate. Also in other posts, he's talked about having
anger issues and sometimes hating himself. And he also recently yelled at a paparazzi for filming
him while in Palm Springs. So even all of that, it's just kind of a tiny portion of the behavior
that people have been reading into lately. People have also expressed concern about certain paparazzi
photos that have been taken and have come out of him, which actually led to a rep shooting down
rumors about drug use in February with them telling TMZ
that these claims are quote, exhausting and pitiful
and shows that despite the obvious truth,
people are committed to keeping negative, salacious,
harmful narratives alive.
And you know, one of the things is,
is that talk about Justin,
it extends well past anonymous social media users
endlessly speculating.
I mean, it's reached major industry news outlets.
Just last week, you had the Hollywood Reporter
running a massive piece titled
"'Justin Bieber's Crisis of Faith',"
with that diving into some of Justin's social media posts,
as well as other sort of behind closed door matters
regarding his business and team and religion,
with the article saying,
"'A bitter management shakeup, angry public outburst,
"'a narcissistic pastor whose word is gospel.
"'What in God's name is happening
"'to the once mighty pop icon?'
With a former team member reportedly telling the outlet,
"'Seeing him disintegrate like this, it's watching the embodiment of someone not living
their purpose. He's lost. There's no one protecting him because there's no one willing to say no to
him. You say no, you get blown out. With the article then also saying that Justin still owes
money over a canceled tour from 2022. Also with this last week, you had other sources telling
People Magazine that people close to Justin are worried about him. But then you have other outlets like Rolling Stone
pushing back against media reports that he's not doing well,
arguing that his so-called vibe shift
indicates a creative change for him
as he pays attention to up and coming artists.
And so among all the talking,
it's sparked conversations about what the media's role
in talking about Justin Bieber like this should even be.
Right with, for example, the Hollywood Reporter
getting some heat online for its deep dive into Justin,
with some comparing it to the way that the media treated Britney Spears in writing.
I would delete this if I were you. As well as, quote, angry public outbursts, and it's him
reposting memes and telling paparazzi to leave him alone. If anything, I hope he actually yells
so these paid articles might actually have a hint of truth to them. And this is you at Justin's Reps
also shooting down the article, telling People Magazine, this is just clickbait stupidity based
on unnamed and clearly ill-informed quote sources,
"'disappointed they no longer work with Justin.'"
And adding, as Justin forges his own way forward,
"'These unnecessary stories
"'and inaccurate assumptions will continue,
"'but they won't deter him from staying committed
"'to following the right path.'"
You know, for now, we're gonna have to wait
to see what happens from here.
If anything, and in the meantime, of course,
I'd love to know your thoughts
on the situation in general as well,
as specifically the media's role in all this.
But then, next up today, we gotta talk about Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth reportedly
sharing detailed information about airstrikes in Yemen in a Signal Group chat that included his
wife, brother, and personal lawyer. And to be clear, these were the same airstrikes that were
discussed in the other chat that mistakenly included the editor of The Atlantic, Jeffrey
Goldberg. Also strikes that reportedly killed at least 53 people, including children.
Which on that note, I should say
before getting into the rest of this,
that these types of airstrikes are still happening.
In fact, you have the Associated Press finding
that the US bombing campaign in Yemen appears
to be even more intense and aggressive than in the past.
With for example, just today,
a US airstrike reportedly killing 12 people
in the country's capital.
And a few days ago, multiple airstrikes on a port
reportedly killed 33 people
with a Houthi-run news channel
claiming that paramedics and workers were among the dead.
And this after last week,
an attack on the same port reportedly killed 74
with the extent of potential civilian casualties
reportedly unknown.
And so I wanted to mention that
because there's a whole conversation
and folks to be had there.
But for today, back to the Signal chat controversy.
Notably there, besides having a conversation on Signal,
Hegseth reportedly used his private phone rather than his government one to access Signal chat controversy. Notably there, besides having a conversation on Signal, Hegseth reportedly used his private phone
rather than his government one to access the chat.
And this, even after several staff members
reportedly encouraged him to move the work-related matters
to his government phone, which he reportedly never did.
And then as far as those included in the chat,
well, like I said, there was Jennifer, his wife,
who's a former Fox News producer,
and who, in case you were wondering,
is not a Defense Department employee.
Though this also, is notably she has reportedly
accompanied her husband to sensitive meetings
with foreign military officials.
But then moving on from his wife,
there's Hegseth's brother, Phil,
and the lawyer whose name is Tim Parlatori.
And those two, I will say,
at least have jobs in the Pentagon.
Phil is working as a liaison
to the Department of Homeland Security
and as a senior advisor to the Defense Secretary,
AKA his brother and Tim.
He is still reportedly working as Hegseth's personal lawyer,
but he is also a Navy commander
in the Judge Advocate General's Corps,
a job he reportedly got about a week
before the strikes took place.
And with that, it's still really unclear
why either one of them would need to know
about upcoming military action in Yemen.
And as far as what kind of information
they were actually privy to,
it reportedly included flight schedules for the fighter jets.
So essentially the same attack plan shared in the chat
with Jeffrey Goldberg,
though also notably unlike that chat, which was created by national security
advisor Mike Walton, included Goldberg by accident, this one was created by Hegseth.
And as far as we know, it included his wife, brother, and lawyer on purpose. And in fact,
it reportedly also included about a dozen other people from his personal and professional inner
circle before his confirmation as defense secretary, including, for example, two senior advisors who were accused of leaking unauthorized information last week and were fired.
So actually, with that, Hegseth has seemingly responded to this latest story by trying to
pin it on those individuals and just attacking the media in general.
You know, what a big surprise that a bunch of, a few leakers get fired and suddenly a
bunch of hit pieces come out from the same media that peddled the Russia hoax.
See, this is what the media does.
They take anonymous sources from disgruntled former employees,
and then they try to slash and burn people and ruin their reputations.
Not gonna work with me.
This is why we're fighting the fake news media.
This is why we're fighting slash and burn Democrats.
This is why we're fighting hoaxsters.
Hoaxsters. This group? No, no, no. This is where we're fighting hoaxsters, hoaxsters. This group, no,
no, this group right here, full of hoaxsters that peddle anonymous sources from leakers with
axes to grind. And then you put it all together as if it's some news story. And when we know it,
we know exactly what it is. But with that, it's now actually being reported that the White House
has started looking for a new secretary of Defense, though publicly, I will say,
the administration has stuck by Hegseth,
echoing his own talking points.
With, for example, the chief Pentagon spokesperson
blaming the so-called Trump-hating media,
as well as disgruntled employees,
with a motive to sabotage the Secretary
and the President's agenda.
As well as maintaining that, quote,
"'There was no classified information in any signal chat,
"'no matter how many ways they try to write the story.'"
With an also White House spokesperson, Caroline Levittitt saying that Hegseth has Trump's support
and claiming the entire Pentagon is working against their agenda.
Which, arguably, is kind of a way of agreeing with the former top spokesperson for the Pentagon
who wrote an opinion piece for Politico yesterday claiming that the department is in total chaos under Hegseth's leadership.
And this as he notably also accused Hegseth's team of falsehoods about why top officials were fired last week,
saying they hadn't actually leaked
sensitive information to the media.
And so with all that,
you have Democrats pointing to the whole situation
as even more reason for Hegseth to resign or be fired.
With a scene, for example, Tammy Duckworth,
who lost both her legs serving in Iraq, saying,
how many times does Pete Hegseth
need to leak classified intelligence
before Donald Trump and Republicans understand
that he isn't only a fucking liar,
he is a threat to our national security.
And adding, every day he stays in his job is another day
our troops' lives are endangered by his singular stupidity.
And from what I understand, those were her kind words.
But for now, we'll have to wait to see how this plays out
and keep an eye out because at any moment,
Pete Hegseth may text you about bombing plans.
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And next up from that, we got to talk about the super fun news that millions of student loan borrowers are behind on payments and the impending crisis.
It could have sweeping economic impacts for every single one of you watching.
So for five years after the pandemic, the federal government had a freeze on penalizing student loan borrowers for not making payments.
And during the Biden administration, the education department, they offered a fresh start program that put millions of defaulted borrowers back into good standing.
And as a part of the program, those folks were given a year long on ramp to get their finances together, during which time loan servicers were directed to pause the loans of delinquent borrowers and not report late payments.
You know, the idea there being that borrowers could come out of the pandemic with a clean slate and ease into repayment.
And so as a result, millions of people,
they had their credit ratings rise.
But at the same time, the Fresh Start program
also inflated the number of borrowers
who were up to date on their debts.
And so now that the freeze is over
and loan services started reporting late payers again
at the beginning of the year,
tons of those people have become delinquent on their loans.
And this is, you know, they're not alone.
They've been joined by plenty of people
who weren't delinquent before the pandemic. And when I, you know, they're not alone. They've been joined by plenty of people who weren't delinquent before the pandemic.
And when I say a ton, I mean it, we're talking millions.
And so as a result, since the beginning of the year,
millions of student loan holders,
they've had their credit scores absolutely tank.
And that number, it could increase dramatically.
I mean, it's been estimated that around 4 million people
have been reported to credit bureaus
for late payments and researchers,
they say that the number will rise past 9 million
by the end of June.
And I mean, even people with good credit,
they're falling behind.
According to Credit Karma,
over half a million student loan borrowers
with good or excellent credit ratings,
they saw their scores drop by an average of 128 points.
You know, if you've ever kept track of your own credit score
you know that is a huge drop.
And when we're talking about a fall,
that can literally move a borrower with good credit
down to the lowest rating tier.
And now, servicers say that a record number of borrowers
could default by the end of the year.
Because the big thing here is that federal student loans,
they default when they're more than 270 days overdue.
And notably, that's a point that people will reach
this fall if they've never resumed paying their loans
after the freeze.
But they're seeing Nelnet,
the government's largest servicer,
sending an analysis to lawmakers
that showed an enormous uptick in borrowers
whose loans were four to five months overdue.
And to add some context here, just before the pandemic,
less than 1% of Nelnet's accounts were nearing default,
but now it's nearly 10%.
As we have Nelnet explicitly warning,
without immediate intervention,
we could face the largest wave of defaults
in the program's history.
Now, obviously, getting reported for late payments
or defaulting on a loan entirely,
they both have very serious consequences
for the borrower in question,
but also this goes way beyond the individual.
When people have their credit scores downgraded for any reason, it can prevent them from renting or buying homes.
And when they need to take out a loan for a big purchase, emergency cash, or everyday needs, they can only qualify for more expensive and riskier loans.
And so as a result, one of the things is that millions of Americans will not be putting as much money into the economy at a time when it's already struggling. And then in addition to that, when slash if millions of borrowers end up defaulting,
the cost is gonna fall on taxpayers
who are already coping with high inflation
and expecting to bear more economic pain
from Trump's tariffs.
Now with this, one of the questions that pops up is,
why the hell do we have so many borrowers
not paying their student loan debt?
And well, there you have experts involved
with restarting loan payment collections
after the five-year pause,
saying that the reasons are complicated,
but there are two main overarching issues.
First, the whole system has been
an absolutely fucking dumpster fire mess,
thanks to frequent and massive changes
to loan terms and repayment options.
Moves that have dramatic consequences,
not just for borrowers,
but servicers and the education department as well.
For example, 9 million people
having had their loans in forbearance,
which is a pause on collections.
And most of those loans
are either stuck in major processing backlogs
or frozen by GOP led legal challenges
to an income driven repayment program enacted
by the Biden administration called SAVE.
And SAVE allowed students to repay their student loans based
on how much money they made with the idea being
to keep payments affordable and avoid defaulting.
And while the people who are a part of SAVE
and other similar plans have been in limbo for months
and have not yet been sent to collections,
it's all but certain that the program is gonna be struck
down by a federal judge or rolled back by the Trump administration.
And so basically we're looking at a massive cliff
and it's just a matter of time
before millions of people fall off of it.
But also that whole situation has been further exacerbated
by the Trump administration's tactics.
With the shifting loan terms and repayment options,
they've caused a ton of chaos,
creating a surge in processing issues
and other demands from borrowers.
But instead of increasing education department staffing
to fill the increased need,
you have the Trump administration doing the exact opposite,
imposing sweeping cuts to the agency,
which Trump has also directed
the agency secretary to eliminate.
And as a part of that,
Trump has said that he'll be moving
the management of student loans
to the small business administration.
Now, as we've talked about numerous times,
neither of those goals can be achieved without Congress,
which has made it clear it's not interesting.
But insiders say that the impact of Trump's orders,
as well as the plans to fire almost half of the education department's employees,
they've pushed its federal student aid office almost to the point of collapsing entirely,
with the overall result being absolute and utter turmoil at a time when all hands are needed on deck to handle this budding student loan default crisis. Which then brings us to the second main
reason so many student loan borrowers are not paying, and it's much more straightforward.
In one sentence, it's simply just incredibly hard
for many people to incorporate a three
or even four figure monthly debt into their budget
after years of not paying,
especially given the current economic situation.
But for now, we're gonna have to wait
to see how this plays out.
But then next up from that,
shifting gears to a very different kind of news,
I would like you to meet Bradley Snyder.
So Bradley here, he's nine years old,
and every year since 2022,
he goes out to houses and neighborhoods
and hides Easter eggs for a small donation of $30.
So, you know, instead of hiding the eggs
for your Easter egg hunt yourself,
you'd hire Bradley and he'll hide roughly two dozen eggs
filled with candy and notes from the Easter Bunny
around your yard.
The funds that young Bradley is raising,
it's not going into his pocket for a new game or a new toy.
Rather, they're going towards the Alzheimer's Association.
Because you see, after losing her grandparents
to Alzheimer's, Bradley's mom joined
the Greater Maryland chapter of the Alzheimer's Association.
And there, she directed the annual walk to end the disease.
And the egg hunt project, it was something that Bradley
and his mom loved to do together.
That is, until she passed away suddenly last year.
And instead of letting it go with her,
Bradley decided to keep the fundraiser alive
in her memory, saying-
She was the best person I knew of anything, she was probably the best person on earth.
I was very lucky to have her for all nine years that I've been alive. Sometimes a little hard
knowing the fact that I'm never going to do this with my mom anymore, but doing it for her at least.
Right, and you know what? Bradley's grandma stepped up to help him do that.
I didn't know anything about what to do,
you know, where they order things from
for the eggs and et cetera.
And Brad set me straight.
I'm so proud of him.
I could not be prouder,
could not be prouder of him.
He is a special child.
He has his mother's heart.
And since starting these egg hunts,
Bradley has raised thousands of dollars. And this year alone egg hunts, Bradley has raised thousands of dollars,
and this year alone, he raised more than $2,000, saying,
Some people don't give to you at all,
but the least you can do is still give stuff to them.
It helps make the world a little bit of a better place.
And so on the tail end of those wise words
from someone who hasn't even hit double digits yet,
I'm gonna be calling Bradley our BAMF of the day.
But then, let's talk about y'all's
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drops like, yeah, no, it's fine, everything's fine, and one day we'll all be skeletons. As well as
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off. But, you know, that said, diving into those comments, there were a lot of comments about RFK
Jr., starting with Mr. Kennedy, who quoted RFK Jr. saying, these children will never pay taxes,
saying, notice that's the first thing he said. He doesn't care about the children. He cares about
the money. Surprise, surprise. There, you had some saying, as someone with autism, I think RFK is onto something here. We should
abolish taxes for people, quote, suffering with this condition. You also had some just sharing
their own stories, saying things like, so my younger brother, who's autistic, works with kids
over the summer as a summer job, and he's about to go into his senior year. He did the same last
year. Earlier this year, I helped him with his taxes, as I promised I would. With them then
adding, imagine the knock on the door if we just put,
I'm autistic, therefore no taxes, lols on it.
RFK is very dangerous.
Same with everyone else in this administration.
We also saw some of y'all expanding on that, saying things like,
Autism doesn't destroy families.
Intolerant attitudes and lack of understanding and support for these children and adults is what makes it hard.
It's a society problem, not an autism problem.
My autistic son has given me a very different parenting experience, not a worse one.
He is an amazing individual that I feel honored to raise.
Within some, like Sonata sharing personal stories
saying I'm autistic and ADHD.
I consistently had 99th percentile scores
in reading comprehension in my second language.
I've held jobs each for years.
I've been a professional musician for more than a decade.
And evidently I have higher science comprehension
than RFK Jr., as low of a bar as that may be.
With Sonata then adding, autism is similar to left-handedness.
Not better or worse, but it requires some accommodations.
To add to that analogy, scissors made for the opposite dominant hand are difficult to use effectively.
Simply put, he needs to go retire and never be in a position of power ever again.
Right, and all of this as we had some like Mad-Eye Oden saying,
I have a niece with autism, semi-verbal.
Her grandmother, my mother, is a huge fan of RFK Jr.
After watching my niece,
I started questioning if I might be on the spectrum.
When I started sharing my thoughts with my mom,
I look up halfway through and she's nodding vigorously.
Come to find out, they had me tested when I was a kid
and I got diagnosed with what at the time
was known as Asperger's.
But she didn't wanna listen to the advice of the doctors,
so she just ignored it and put me in regular classes
where I struggled.
With them then going on to say,
it means I didn't lose my mom to Trump and RFK, I never really had
her. You know, I will say that's just a taste. Just on YouTube, that had almost 7,000 comments.
One, the show in general is worth a watch, but two, like, if you want a deeper dive into the
comments, it's one where it's definitely worth it. But that is where we're going to end things today.
Thank you for watching. I love your faces. And of course, I'll see you right back here tomorrow
because I got a brand new show for you every Monday, Tuesday,
Wednesday, and Thursday at 6 p.m. Eastern, 3 p.m. Pacific.
Okay, love you, bye.