The Philip DeFranco Show - PDS 6.21 Revealing My High-Stakes Youtube Boxing Match, Chrissy Teigen "Fake" Scandal, NCAA, & More

Starting point is 00:00:00 The way that my hair naturally sits these days, I look like a mix between emo Peter Parker and I would like to speak to your manager. And there's only one way to fix that. Welcome back to the Philip DeFranco Show. It is Monday, June 21st, 2021. Hit that like button to support the video. Hit that subscribe button for your chance to win $5,000

Starting point is 00:00:19 at the end of the month. And let's just jump into it. First up today, let's definitely talk about this controversy that we're seeing right now in the world of online's just jump into it. First up today, let's definitely talk about this controversy that we're seeing right now in the world of online entertainment, specifically on Twitch. You know, this is kind of the continuation of a past controversy we talked about.

Starting point is 00:00:31 Right there, you had an increasing number of female streamers that were streaming from hot tubs and pools, scantily clad. Right, in general, these streamers were kind of trying to ride the line of the terms of service on Twitch. Ultimately, Twitch ended up addressing it. Among other things, they made hot tub streams its own category, which resulted in a lot of people saying,

Starting point is 00:00:48 you're just kind of kicking the can down the road. You're gonna have another controversy. Even people like Pokimane speaking up. Listen, Twitch, it doesn't matter if you make a new section for this or if you ban these individual people, because, or if you ban hot tub streams indoors, they're gonna find another way to push the envelope.

Starting point is 00:01:05 They basically implemented a bandaid fix as opposed to treating the root cause. And as it turns out, she was exactly right. We started seeing the rise of ASMR streams, but I don't even feel comfortable calling them ASMR streams. When most people think of ASMR streams, they probably think of something like this. So cute, she's so cute.

Starting point is 00:01:26 But the ASMR streams that we're talking about on Twitch, I don't even know if I could show this. With some streamers like Amaranth doing whatever this is. Get out of my back, get out of my way, get out of my way. Get out of my way. Get out of my way. Get out of my way. Get out of my way. Get out of my way. Get out of my way. Get out of my way. Get out of my way. Get out of my way.

Starting point is 00:01:50 Get out of my way. Get out of my way. Get out of my way. Get out of my way. Get out of my way. Get out of my way. Get out of my way. Get out of my way.

Starting point is 00:01:58 Get out of my way. Get out of my way. Get out of my way. Get out of my way. Get out of my way. Get out of my way. Get out of my way. Get out of my way. Get out of my way. Get out of my way. Get out of my way. on to among other things, simulate sounds that sound like oral. So with all of that, we ended up seeing some temporary bans on big names like Indie Fox and Amaran.

Starting point is 00:02:08 Also with that, we saw people like e-sports and gaming host Frankie Ward tweeting. I'd say mic licking Medicaid is not hurting solely women on Twitch, but hurting Twitch in general. I'm not anti hot tub streams, I've written about why, but the presentation by the band streamers charging subs for licking ASMR mics suggestively is an issue. Woman in a bikini equals front covers of regular mags

Starting point is 00:02:27 on the beach, poolside, person simulating a sexual act, and with financial incentive to do so, not something you'd see below the top shelf in general public. As well as streamers like SweetTales saying that Twitch has opened up a door. They're literally bending over doggy style, sucking on a microphone and making this ear licking noises and staring

Starting point is 00:02:48 at the camera, making eye contact in the ASMR category. Like what the f**k? Don't get me wrong. These girls are killing it. They're making great money. That's great. And I am not. I love women.

Starting point is 00:03:03 If you want to do your own, if you want to have an OnlyFans, you want to be beautiful. And these women are gorgeous, don't get me wrong. But I just don't think Twitch is the platform for that. It's not. Some even arguing that by allowing this content, Twitch is inviting a kind of creepy demographic that's going to harass women. But regarding that specific argument, you had people pushing back, people like 39Daft saying, the problem with your statement was assuming it attracts a demographic that further hurts its female streamers, etc. But in my opinion, it doesn't. People who want to harass women on Twitch were already going to harass them. I highly doubt people who subscribe and pay for Amaranth slash Indie Fox's OnlyFans are the ones actively going around harassing other women. But Amaranth herself even responding, saying,

Starting point is 00:03:42 The people we bring are far far far more mild-mannered and open-minded than the average gamer bro.'" And I would go as far as to say the dramatic cacophony of voices saying it hurts the platform actually hurts the platform due to shining a spotlight on a molehill, self-fulfilling prophecy. And while obviously there is a debate to be had there, and I would love to know your thoughts and opinions on that in the comments down below, what I would say is,

Starting point is 00:04:02 even if it is short-lived, this controversy and scandal and even the bans seem to be beneficial for these women. And we're saying that it seemed like her ban actually helped her OnlyFans with her getting 587 new subscribers just an hour or two after it happened. Right, and it's important to remember, it's not just the money from subscriptions

Starting point is 00:04:18 that end up being big for these women, but also the paid messages. Hell, I mean, Corinna Kopp, who of course we've talked about her launching an OnlyFans last week, she tweeted that she made $165,000 on just one picture of her boobs, which brings us to our most important

Starting point is 00:04:32 online story of the day. I am not making as much money as I should be, which is why I am so excited to announce in completely serious and not a joke news, I and Ethan Klein will be getting into the ring and boxing in what has getting into the ring and boxing in what has been called the Battle of the Dadbots. And if and when I win, I get his 5%.

Starting point is 00:04:51 And in the unlikely event I lose, maybe I have a brain aneurysm, I don't know, I'll buy you and your family VIP tickets to Disney. Yeah, serious stakes, you coward. Then, in a story about outrage and backlash that I definitely wanted to update since we talked about accusations last week, we had Chrissy Teigen back in the news.

Starting point is 00:05:10 She of course last week coming back to social media, apologizing again for past comments that she made. By saying at that time she was a troll, there was no excuse for what she did. She's a different person now. There's a lot of people that she still needs to apologize to. And like we talked about last week, after she did this,

Starting point is 00:05:24 designer and former project runway contestant Michael Costello said on Instagram that he was actually bullied by Teigen back in 2014, with him specifically saying that the bullying drove him to having suicidal thoughts. Claiming that Teigen and her style has made it hard for him to work in the industry, bullying him, saying that, yeah, he should die.

Starting point is 00:05:39 But as it turns out, following that, we ended up seeing a report from Insider that found technical inconsistencies in the purported DMs that could suggest they are manipulated. And noting, several visual identifiers in the images appear to come from various iterations of Instagram and Teigen's profile throughout the years, which is oftentimes a signature of manipulated imagery.

Starting point is 00:05:57 With it noting that Teigen had been verified in 2015, but that there was no blue check next to her name, suggesting that the screenshot was taken in 2014. But reportedly the issue with that is that the message backgrounds have the purple and blue gradient, which didn name, suggesting that the screenshot was taken in 2014. But reportedly the issue with that is that the message backgrounds have the purple and blue gradient, which didn't exist until 2020 when she was verified, so that appears to be inconsistent.

Starting point is 00:06:11 There's also a video chat icon at the top of the image, which is a feature that wasn't introduced until 2018. And the photo in the corner is also the profile picture she used in 2014 to 2016, and any screenshot taken after that would show her current picture. So it turns out that there was a lot of things that didn't add up up and actually Teigen herself

Starting point is 00:06:26 ended up saying that the DMs were fake. Sharing a statement on social media saying the screenshots were fictional. Adding that, yes, she did comment on one of his posts in 2014 when he was accused of making a racist remark, but saying that after he denied it and said that the remark was photoshopped, Chrissy deleted her comment.

Starting point is 00:06:39 Saying she never conspired to ruin his career and actually the stylist that Michael claimed bullied him with Chrissy didn't even work with her until 2016. But the statement also saying that Chrissy thought she had a cordial friendship with Michael. With screenshots also being shared of Instagram interactions which included Michael complimenting her lipstick and food and other mundane and normal interactions.

Starting point is 00:06:56 Right, and so following all of that, we saw Michael deleting the original post accusing Teigen of bullying him. But also we saw him respond saying that Teigen and her team quote, are working so hard, so strategically "'to come out against the DM she sent me "'and to downplay the comments she publicly posted

Starting point is 00:07:10 "'on my Instagram only proves that she is the same bully "'she always has been despite her fake apology "'to the public.'" Still, that doesn't appear to fully address the allegedly doctored images that he was sharing. Also, it does appear that with Costello doing this, he put a big target on his back. Since he shared that now deleted Instagram post,

Starting point is 00:07:26 we've seen people coming out accusing him of sexual harassment, overt racism, body shaming. And it's still a developing situation over there, so obviously you have to wait and see. But I think one of the biggest things with this story is it does appear to shine a light on an issue that we've seen in a number of these instances. Insert a person that's having some sort of scandal

Starting point is 00:07:44 or big backlash because they're getting hit so hard here, their character's being called into question. We sometimes end up seeing people just making shit up and piling on, because often the pylon is so big and crazy, everything is kind of assumed to be true if it's negative about the person that's at the center of it. But from that, I want to take a second to thank the sponsor

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Starting point is 00:09:02 when it limited the amount students could receive for scholarships, for graduate degrees, paid internships, musical instruments, computers, and other free education benefits. The student athletes that brought the case arguing that the NCAA was running a system that restrained competition. But you had the NCAA arguing that their rules

Starting point is 00:09:17 were exempt from antitrust laws because they were needed to preserve the image of amateurism in college sports and prevent colleges from recruiting athletes by offering over the top benefits worth thousands of dollars. But essentially the Supreme Court's response was shut your dumb ass up. And so as far as what the Supreme Court ruled, in the court's opinion delivered by Justice Neil Gorsuch, he wrote that the Supreme Court was upholding a lower court decision to lift quote rules that limit scholarships for graduate or vocational school payments for

Starting point is 00:09:40 academic tutoring or paid post-eligibility internships, while also leaving in place rules aimed at ensuring student-athletes do not receive unlimited payments unrelated to education. Or in other words, athletes can receive additional education-related payments, but the NCAA will still be allowed to keep them from being paid like professional athletes. Though, I do want to clarify, this does not have anything to do with the ongoing debate over allowing student-athletes to make money off their name, image, and likeness through things like brand deals and appearances. Though, some have speculated that this ruling could have an indirect impact on those kinds of discussion. But also very notably here, in a concurring opinion,

Starting point is 00:10:12 Justice Brett Kavanaugh accused the NCAA of acting quote, above the law and questioned whether more rules should be ended. Writing, the NCAA's remaining compensation rules also raise serious questions under the antitrust laws. And that, I mean, is absolutely massive because he's effectively saying that the organization will have trouble defending its rule

Starting point is 00:10:29 that players cannot be compensated. It's essentially a signal to student athletes that they should file a new lawsuit challenging the remaining restrictions the NCAA has on compensation. Which is also why it's not surprising that Steve Berman, an attorney for the college athletes who filed the suit said,

Starting point is 00:10:41 "'It is our hope that this victory in the battle for college athletes' rights will carry on a wave of justice "'uplifting further aspects of athlete compensation. "'This is the fair treatment college athletes deserve.'" With California Governor Gavin Newsom also celebrating this win, tweeting, "'The NCAA's bankrupt model

Starting point is 00:10:56 "'is finally starting to come apart, "'sickening that colleges reap billions "'from student athletes, "'what blocked them from earning a single dollar. "'This brings us one step closer to fixing that.'" Then, in actually very important political news, we should talk about this story. That's actually two stories.

Starting point is 00:11:09 One, right, the headline, you have Senate Democrats set to officially introduce the voting rights bill on the floor. And two, this could also be the beginning of a story where more moderate Democrats realize that their goal of compromise is really an impossible thing to do with the Republican party of today. The party that after January 6th decided

Starting point is 00:11:26 the course of action to take was to throw Liz Cheney under the bus and still stay in the good graces of Donald Trump, that maybe they're not, you know, making good faith arguments. And that now could be a good time to change the game plan from what Democrats have kind of done really well for the last 40 years, and that is lose with style.

Starting point is 00:11:44 Democracy in the United States is in a very weakened and vulnerable state right now. And you have a number of Democrats out there acting like it's just business as usual. So those are the two stories in one, and here's the meat of it. So the procedural vote to start debate on the legislation is scheduled for tomorrow.

Starting point is 00:11:59 And this comes as more and more Democrats and progressive activists have begun to embrace a more watered down version of the bill proposed by Joe Manchin, the sole Democrat who opposed the initial bill on the ground that it was too partisan. But here's the thing, while Democrats spent the weekend hashing out the final details of compromise

Starting point is 00:12:13 on Manchin's bill, which he has touted as a more bipartisan compromise, Senate Republicans have still broadly rejected it with minority leader Mitch McConnell calling it equally unacceptable and predicting that no members of his party will vote in favor. And so as a result, the legislation is all but guaranteed

Starting point is 00:12:28 to fail in the chamber where it will require all 50 Democrats and at least 10 Republicans to overcome the filibuster. But very notably here, bringing the bill to the floor could actually still be good for Democrats if it allows some people to see what the reality of the situation is. Because this could lay the groundwork for the party

Starting point is 00:12:43 to justify scrapping the filibuster altogether. If Joe Manchin agrees to some form of the situation is. Because this could lay the groundwork for the party to justify scrapping the filibuster altogether. Right, if Joe Manchin agrees to some form of the bill, which the Republicans then filibuster, Democrats could then say, hey, we have the votes to approve the legislation if we get rid of the filibuster, Joe. Don't you see that it's not about compromise, it's about stonewalling.

Starting point is 00:12:58 That bipartisanship cannot be a precondition to taking action to secure our democracy if it relies on reaching a common ground with a party that is increasingly and transparently committed to undermining that democracy. And secondly, it shows the minority rule party, that is the GOP, is abusing existing Senate rules to block highly popular policy changes. I mean, after the insurrection and amid the growing efforts

Starting point is 00:13:19 by Republican governors and legislatures to restrict voting access in their states, there has been broad public support for federal action to protect our endangered democracy. And here's the thing, tomorrow we may even see the Republicans filibuster the vote to even proceed to debate this. With that including even discussing Manchin's plan,

Starting point is 00:13:34 which he crafted specifically to reach a compromise with the GOP. And ultimately with this story, or honestly anything else that I talked about today, I'd love to know your thoughts in those comments down below, because one, this is supposed to be a conversation, and two, this is the end of today's show.

Starting point is 00:13:46 As always, thanks for being a part of the family, subscribing, liking, all the good stuff. If you're looking forward to watching it covered right here, or in those top links down below. But of course, as always, my name's Philip DeFranco. You've just been filled in. I love yo faces, and I'll see you tomorrow.

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The Philip DeFranco Show - PDS 6.21 Revealing My High-Stakes Youtube Boxing Match, Chrissy Teigen "Fake" Scandal, NCAA, & More

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