The Philip DeFranco Show - PDS 6.4 Jake Paul CHARGED In Connection To Riots, Mattis Speaks Out, COVID-19 Protest Concerns
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So the first thing we're gonna talk about today,
I know there are some people in this audience
that dislike when I talk about Jake Paul
because they hate Jake Paul,
which in part is why I'm including this story today.
So since the last time we talked about Jake,
you remember, there were people that were accusing him
of looting and destroying property in Arizona
while other people were looting and destroying property in Arizona while other people were looting and destroying
Property in Arizona, you know, it was pointed out on video that someone handed him a stolen vodka bottle
So a lot of people were focusing on that since we covered that Jake Paul released a video that people could not comment on or
Rate where he it's always hard to say someone apologized when they make themselves out to be the victim in the video already acknowledges
That he should have left then he talks about how he was an easy target, you know
Because his name is Jake Paul and And also in this apology, non-apology video,
he tries to raise money for Black Lives Matter.
But the big update we got this morning
is that Jake Paul has now been criminally charged
in the state of Arizona.
And like I said, I don't believe that he was looting.
I also don't believe the police believe that he was looting,
and that's because he's only been charged
with criminal trespassing and unlawful assembly.
According to reports, police said he entered
and stayed inside the mall after it was closed.
The mall closed at 5 p.m., the incident began at 10 p.m.
With Scottsdale police saying they received hundreds
of tips and videos identifying Paul as a riot participant.
Now looking at the charges, he could face fines
as well as up to four months in jail
for that trespassing charge, and up to six months
for that unlawful assembly charge.
However, while looking at the situation,
it doesn't look like he's had
any previous convictions against him.
So that could play a role in what happens to him, any potential jail time if he were to be convicted.
So there is that. Now, a thing I do want to note if you're like,
Yes, justice! These charges are two misdemeanors and Jake Paul is incredibly rich,
so it would not surprise me if this kind of goes away.
But if there is something that I could add to this, and maybe this is kind of to Jake,
maybe it's kind of the people around him, maybe just people in general,
because it's kind of the group around him, maybe just people in general, because it's kind of the group sometimes
that has to keep people accountable.
Jake, stop making yourself out to be the victim
in this situation.
I agree with something you said in your video,
that past mistakes should not be what defines you,
but you have shown yourself time and time again
to be an egomaniacal, selfish asshole
who seems to not learn from his mistakes
or show any desire unless it makes them appear good,
Shane Dawson video, then you throw away that goodwill
and reveal yourself to be who you really are.
And I hope who that person is genuinely changes,
but it will not happen if you just deflect
in moments like this.
But that's my words on this, and of course,
I pass the question off to you.
What are your thoughts on this?
And then let's talk about the coronavirus,
because you know, I've seen these memes since Wednesday
where people were like, oh, the protests start,
and just like that, coronavirus went away.
And well, no, it hasn't.
So let's talk about the coronavirus, new cases of it,
and how it's related to both states reopening
and the protests that we're seeing.
So on Monday of this week, we saw the United States
report over 21,188 new cases in one day,
according to Johns Hopkins.
While this is slightly lower than,
though basically on par with last week's
daily average of 21,294 cases,
we are seeing a general trend of daily averages increasing.
Right, and between May 26th and May 28th,
the average was 19,800 new cases,
and that went up to 21,700 new cases per day.
Right, and so with this, you have some people wondering,
well, what is causing this spike?
And we saw some places quickly thinking
that it was the protest causing the spike,
like with this ABC News update which was
widely shared online
but the thing to remember is that these nationwide protests have only been going on for about a week or so and that virus has
an incubation period of up to 14 days
That's why you have people like Mark Shrine a public health researcher at Harvard telling the Atlantic that he anticipates a spike related to these
protests
But we will not see it for 10 to 14 days, meaning that Monday's figure of 21,000 new cases
would likely not be because of these protests.
And in fact, in some places,
experts are not anticipating that the data on these cases
will reflect the protests for even longer.
With NBC Los Angeles saying that in Southern California,
county health department data may not show a surge
for three to four weeks.
So understand, I'm not saying that the protests
will not cause a spike,
I'm just saying that the increase that we're seeing
is not because of the protests yet.
So one of the questions connected to this story is,
well, what is the root of this recent increase?
And it appears that the timing works out
in a number of these places where we're seeing new cases
that it's likely tied to local governments reopening.
For example, Palm Beach County in Florida
showed the biggest one-day increase in coronavirus cases
three weeks after reopening.
While the South Florida Sun Sentinel says
that it may be too soon to tell if that's the cause
or if it represents a random event versus a resurgence.
The main thing is no matter the reason,
the average number of cases has been rising
and that is not the only place.
States like Texas and Arizona, which have also been reopening
and ending stay-at-home orders are also seeing increases.
And actually in Arizona specifically, reports indicate
three weeks after the statewide stay-at-home order
was phased out, Arizona has one of the fastest growing
coronavirus caseloads in the country,
up almost 70% since the order expired.
And the thing is we've seen a number of experts saying that we should expect for people to start playing the blame game in a few weeks.
With Julia Marcus, an infectious disease epidemiologist at Harvard Medical School telling The Verge,
What I fear will happen, particularly in those states, is that any increase in cases in the next couple of weeks will be blamed on protesters,
even though there are multiple things happening at the same time. Once again, with these protests,
even though you do not see it yet,
there is a strong chance that down the line,
we will see new cases tied to them.
Now, specifically regarding these protests,
we do have some health officials saying
that because the protests are outside
and because many attending are wearing masks,
the risk is minimized.
But since things like social distancing
being nearly impossible in a lot of these crowds,
not everyone wearing masks,
the fact that a lot of the masks that people are wearing
are cloth masks, and that's more for you
not to spread it to others.
And also other things like tear gas
making people cough as much as it does.
There are factors that could easily aid the spread.
Which kind of brings us to the next two points,
which are what do health officials have to say
about protesting and why do some people think
it is worth the risk?
And the thing is, even though doctors know
that these events will likely lead to cause more cases,
some do support them anyway.
With a computational epidemiologist
at Boston Children's Hospital telling The Atlantic,
"'I personally believe that these particular protests,
"'which demand justice for black and brown bodies
"'that have been brutalized by the police,
"'are a necessary action.
"'Structural racism has been a public health crisis
"'for much longer than the pandemic has.'"
Other doctors tweeting things like,
"'The threat to COVID control from protesting outside
"'is tiny compared to the threat to COVID control created
"'when governments act in ways that lose community trust.'"
Right, and so a lot of the reasons we're seeing people
and experts saying that it is worth the risk,
it comes down to what these protests are about.
You know, obviously, people are demanding justice
for George Floyd and for an end to police violence
against black Americans,
but also for an end to racial injustice of all kinds.
And you know, even with the coronavirus,
we've talked about this before,
black Americans are facing a higher death rate
of the coronavirus than white Americans.
In DC, where 46% of the population is African American,
they account for 75% of the district's deaths.
In Wisconsin, where less than 7%
of the state's residents are black,
which honestly is 6% higher than I thought it was,
they total 25% of the state's deaths.
And there are numerous other states and cities
with the same problem.
This is also something that even Dr. Mike has touched on,
saying in a video yesterday.
So many black communities are out there protesting
because they have to at a time of a pandemic
where they're not only putting their lives on the line
because of police injustice,
but also because of this virus.
And COVID-19 has already dramatically
and drastically affected communities of color disproportionately
in comparison to other communities.
And as for why this virus impacted black Americans more,
there are actually numerous reasons, right?
Black Americans are more likely to have underlying
conditions like high blood pressure.
They're also more likely to be uninsured,
more likely to be undertreated for things like pain,
or more likely to be denied access to treatment and testing.
And on top of all of that, throughout this pandemic, black and Hispanic workers have been less likely to be able to work
from home, thus increasing their exposure to the virus. Which is why you have people like
Minneapolis activist Mike Griffin telling Bloomberg,
Unless we are out there protesting in the streets, we can either be killed by COVID-19 just as easily
as we can be killed by a cop. And you also had Julia Marcus going on to say, ultimately these protests,
if they bring us any semblance of progress
in terms of structural racism,
they will have had a positive impact on public health,
not a negative one.
But still on the other side of this,
you had Surgeon General Jerome Adams talking to Politico
saying that while he understands the anger
behind these protests and why people are out there,
I remain concerned about the public health consequences,
both of individual and institutional racism
and people out protesting in a way that is harmful
to themselves and to their community.
There is going to be a lot to do after this,
even to try and get the communities of color
back to where they need to be
for people to be able to recover from COVID
and for people to be able to recover from the shutdown
and to be able to prosper.
But this is also just why,
if you're going to go to the protest,
you need to do your best to be safe.
Wear a mask and keep it on,
bring a backup if you can,
wash your hands, drink water, distance where you can, and do everything you can to do your best to be safe. Wear a mask and keep it on, bring a backup if you can, wash your hands, drink water, distance where you can,
and do everything you can to reduce your exposure.
Wear long sleeves, long pants, gloves, limit touching,
and then limit interactions with others
to prevent further spread.
And so with this story, I wanna pose some questions.
Do you believe in this instance, the need to go out,
be heard to protest to cause change
currently outweighs the risk of COVID-19?
And whatever your answer is there,
do you have the same or a different opinion
when it comes to the protests that we saw a few weeks prior
when it came to states reopening?
Yes, no, why, why not?
Are they drastically different in your eyes or similar?
I'd love to hear from you in those comments down below.
And then let's talk about former defense secretary
James Mattis and the absolutely scathing
and important statement that he made about President Trump.
Mattis, of course, Donald Trump's first defense secretary,
a position that he held until he resigned in December of 2018
in protest of Trump's policy on Syria.
And since then, Mattis has mostly remained quiet
about Trump, refraining from criticizing him.
That is until yesterday, and I guess he was saving it
because he said in a statement to The Atlantic,
"'I have watched this week's unfolding events,
"'angry and appalled,' saying protesters were fighting
"'for equal justice under law
and adding, it is a wholesome and unifying demand,
one that all of us should be able to get behind.
We must not be distracted by a small number of lawbreakers.
Right in there, hitting on the note
that a lot of people have been pointing to the outliers,
the looting or the rioting,
and using that to muddy the water
as it comes to peaceful protesters.
Mattis also saying that he swore an oath
to support and defend the Constitution,
but never did I dream that troops takingore an oath to support and defend the constitution, but,
"'Never did I dream that troops taking that same oath
"'would be ordered under any circumstance
"'to violate the constitutional rights
"'of their fellow citizens,
"'much less to provide a bizarre photo op
"'for the elected commander in chief
"'with military leadership standing alongside.'"
He then goes on to slam Trump's threat
to deploy the military to states
that don't respond to the protests
the way that he wants them to, writing,
"'We must reject any thinking of our cities "'as a battle space that our uniformed military is called upon to dominate.
At home, we should use our military only when requested to do so on very rare occasions by state governors.
And there, Mattis is referring to remarks we saw from Trump and Defense Secretary Mark Esper earlier this week
on a call with governors where they said,
You have to dominate. If you don't dominate, you're wasting your time.
They're gonna run over you.
You're gonna look like a bunch of jerks.
I think the sooner that you mask
and dominate the battle space,
the quicker this dissipates
and we can get back to the right normal.
Then a little later, Mattis goes on to note
that the Nazi slogan in World War II
was divide and conquer.
The American response was in union, there is strength.
With Mattis then using that reference
to segue
to this very notable moment,
"'Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime
"'who does not try to unite the American people,
"'does not even pretend to try.
"'Instead, he tries to divide us.
"'We are witnessing the consequences of three years
"'of this deliberate effort.
"'We are witnessing the consequences of three years
"'without mature leadership.'"
And adding,
"'We know that we are better than the abuse
of executive authority that we witnessed in Lafayette Square.
We must reject and hold accountable those in office
who would make a mockery of our constitution.
All right, so very important words from someone
who was formerly in a great position of power,
who Trump, I mean, we're gonna get to it in a second,
constantly praised.
Of course, following this, we saw President Trump
responding how he often does.
Tweeting,
probably the only thing Barack Obama and I have in common
is that we both had the honor of firing Jim Mattis,
the world's most overrated general.
I asked for his letter of resignation
and felt great about it.
His nickname was Chaos, which I didn't like,
and changed to Mad Dog.
His primary strength was not military,
but rather personal public relations.
I gave him a new life, things to do and battles to win,
but he seldom brought home the bacon.
I didn't like his leadership style or much else about him,
and many others agree.
Glad he is gone."
Right, and so with this, you had people responding
and saying that in addition to Trump's very questionable
claims about a highly esteemed general,
he had also made two blatantly false statements
in those tweets.
The first, of course, is that he fired Mattis.
Numerous officials have said that Mattis resigned
on his own accord in protest of Trump announcing
that he was withdrawing troops from Syria
and abandoning allies.
Right, and there was never any question about that
or if Trump asked for his resignation.
And the second false statement is that he changed
Mattis' nickname from Chaos to Mad Dog.
First off, Chaos was Mattis' military call name,
not his nickname.
And second of all, it's been reported by multiple outlets
that Mad Dog was given to Mattis years
before Trump took office.
But in addition to those two very clear lies, we also saw a lot of other people pointing
out how contradictory Trump's tweets are here compared to previous statements that
he has made about Mattis.
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We are going to appoint Mad Dog Mattis as our Secretary of Defense.
Jim is a Marine Corps four-star general.
I have a general who I have great respect for, General Mattis.
General Mattis is the living embodiment of the Marine Corps motto, Semper Fidelis.
Secretary Mattis has devoted his life to serving his country.
He led an assault battalion in Operation Desert Strong.
I think he's a terrific person. He's doing a fantastic job.
Mad Dog plays no games.
He's a man of honor, a man of devotion. The American people are fortunate
that a man of this character and integrity
will now be the civilian leader
atop the Department of Defense.
It's almost as if the truth does not matter
and the only thing that does is loyalty.
But a thing to note here is that
while Trump singled out Mattis in his tweet storm,
Mattis is not the only prominent military official
who has criticized Trump's threat to deploy the military to states. Earlier this week
we saw two former Joint Chiefs of Staff chairmen speaking out against that threat, the first being General Martin Dempsey who wrote a tweet on Monday
saying, America is not a battleground. Our fellow citizens are not the enemy.
Hashtag be better. And the second was Admiral Mike Mullins who wrote an op-ed in The Atlantic that was published on Tuesday where he wrote,
I have to date been reticent to speak out
"'on issues surrounding President Trump's leadership,
"'but we are at an inflection point.'"
Later going on to say that,
"'We must address the police brutality and injustices
"'against African Americans as well
"'as defend the right to peaceful assembly.'"
And adding,
"'Neither of these pursuits will be made easier or safer
"'by an overly aggressive use of our military,
"'active duty, or National Guard.
"'The issue for us today is not whether this authority exists,
but whether it will be wisely administered."
And adding later,
"'Furthermore, I am deeply worried
that as they execute their orders,
the members of our military will be co-opted
for political purposes.'"
We also saw General John Allen,
the former commander of American forces in Afghanistan,
making a similar argument in an op-ed in Foreign Policy,
where he just really goes after Trump for his speech,
but also added,
right now the last thing the country needs,
and frankly the US military needs,
is the appearance of US soldiers
carrying out the president's intent
by descending on American citizens.
The thing is, it's also not just former officials
who have openly opposed the move.
I mean, just yesterday we saw
current Secretary of Defense, Mark Esper, say,
"- The option to use active duty forces
in a law enforcement role should only be used
as a matter of last resort, and only in the most urgent and dire of situations. We are not in one of those
situations now. I do not support invoking the Insurrection Act.
And there I would note, if you didn't watch part two of Tuesday's Philip DeFranco show,
we talked about the Insurrection Act there. But if you're unfamiliar, it's a law that
would let Trump deploy troops to states under certain circumstances And that is a huge deal
Are you have the current Secretary of Defense directly saying that he does not support what Trump wants when it comes to the military?
But then that said we also see on Wednesday Esper reversing an earlier Pentagon decision to send active troops deployed in DC back home
Instead opting to keep some in the capital with him reportedly making that decision after a meeting at the White House
Which some people say that it shows that he's kind of somewhere caught in the middle and others claiming that
He's spineless and he's resorting to Trump loyalty over doing what he thinks is right. Now all of that said, while it is incredibly significant
That we're seeing so many military officials speaking out against Trump, of course
There is another side to this. There are also people that support the move to deploy the military. People like Republican Senator Tom Cotton
Who yesterday wrote an op-ed for the New York Times titled
Send in the troops. Where he gave examples of the military being used in the past and also rioting.
The rioting has nothing to do with George Floyd, whose bereaved relatives have condemned violence.
On the contrary, nihilist criminals are simply out for loot in the thrill of destruction,
with cadres of left-wing radicals like Antifa infiltrating protest marches to exploit Floyd's death for their own anarchic purposes.
One thing above all else will restore order to our streets, an overwhelming show of force to disperse, detain, and ultimately deter
lawbreakers. The local law enforcement in some cities desperately need backup."
Now also a note here is that op-ed and the decision to even publish it got a ton of backlash. People just
massively pissed at the New York Times. Even dozens of their own writers, reporters, editors, and magazine staffers publicly criticizing their employer by sharing the same tweet.
Running this puts black New York Times staffers in danger.
With others also condemning the op-ed,
one reporter even pointing to one of Cotton's claims.
Right, noting that something that was allowed
to be published in this op-ed is something
that's already been debunked by the Times itself.
But we also saw the editorial page editor defending
the decision to run the op-ed, saying,
"'We understand that many readers find Senator Cotton's
"'argument painful, even dangerous.
"'We believe that is one reason it requires
"'public scrutiny and debate.'"
But also, the anger appears to also be with the audience
because according to a Slate article,
according to one employee, Senator Tom Cotton's column
has netted the Times its highest ever number
of cancellations in a single hour.
Right, and so with that, I think you could say,
well, some of the viewers,
they're just allergic to different things.
But this specific part, I think it comes down
to a massively ideological debate, right?
A debate around giving your platform
to potentially amplify something that is horrible.
But the counter-belief to that is if you put
the truly horrible in the sunlight, it will disinfect it.
Which in addition to the story about Mattis, Trump,
the Insurrection Act, Esper, in addition,
I'd love to know your thoughts on this debate
because it's just very disgusting and weird times.
What is life right now?
And that is where I'm going to end today's show.
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