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Sup you beautiful bastards.
Welcome back to the Philip DeFranco show.
You daily dive into the news
and we got a lot to talk about today.
Some big, some small,
and fortunately some very meaningful.
So how about you just hit that like button,
make sure you're subscribed and let's jump into it.
This is a news show.
So many of you already know this.
YouTube has had a bot problem for years,
but now the problem's starting to evolve
from annoying to illegal.
And we're seeing creators now being spammed left and right
with comments advertising links
to alleged CP on their videos.
And seemingly as more people have become aware of this,
they're speaking out.
With for example, Mudahar of Some Ordinary Gamers
sharing an example.
These people, you know, basically tell the comment section,
hey, my illegal material videos are more entertaining
than this slop.
Click the link in my channel to watch them, okay? So then you go to their actual account,
and the problem here is they actually have Discord links right here. So obviously,
I'm blurring the Discord link because, first off, if they're openly advertising that their Discord
contains illegal material, then, you know, it's not ever worth clicking on their Discord to verify the illegal material.
They've already said that they're distributing illegal stuff.
You know, Mudahar possibly making this video because in recent days,
a lot of fans have been noticing this trend. Within some, even going further,
blaming the creators themselves for quote, allowing this to happen.
With that, you had Mudahar responding.
So one of the actual
Reddit posts that I saw where one person wrote creators are too busy counting their money to
give a what happens in their comments like dog I don't know what you want people to do do you want
us to upload a video and then like start looking through every single comment section and moderating
it I use about as much of the YouTube auto-moderation tools as I can.
I have no time out of my day
and no other creator that I know
has time in their day
to auto-mod their comment section.
Right, and he then goes on to say
that this problem is one
that YouTube itself needs to address.
And he's been by no means
the only one speaking out yet.
Moist Critical, for example,
also chiming into the conversation,
saying that even with YouTube's current tools
for moderating comments,
there really isn't anything creators can do to fully stop this.
No one likes to see their comment section end up in this kind of state,
especially not when it's promoting awful, awful things like nobody wants that. I use all of the
automated tools YouTube offers to try and put the kibosh on this garbage here. Most YouTubers do,
but sometimes it's just not enough
because it's so easy to make a ton of bots,
even going through manually and deleting each
and every comment from bots,
you'll still have more bots that could show up later
because it's like a Hydra, you cut off one head
and five take its place.
But I'm also going on to say that, you know,
this isn't going to be solved until YouTube steps in.
Though there you have others noting that YouTube's
kind of always been playing
a game of whack-a-mole.
Like when similar issues popped up in the past
and gained the spotlight,
YouTube in response disabled comments
on videos featuring kids.
Also last year, YouTube actually banned links
and shorts comments,
but like Mudahar showed in that first example,
spam accounts are now redirecting people
to links in their bios anyway.
And actually, the issue of bots spamming comments,
it goes even further than what we've been talking about.
For example, back in April,
Forbes actually published an article
finding over a hundred videos with millions of views
advertising AI apps and websites
that could remove clothes from images.
Also, they found another two dozen ads on Google
promoting the same thing,
with one even seemingly advertising it for babies.
With it reportedly not until Forbes reached out
to Google and YouTube
that they actually took all this down.
And you have to wonder with the continued advancement
of AI every single day and the barrier for entry
to use those tools for good and bad,
can a YouTuber, really any platform,
get ahead of these things?
Right, they're successful,
they seemingly have the resources, but also do they?
The scale of this website is insane.
Seemingly the bad actors use that to their advantage.
Whenever they're stopped, they find a way around.
But yeah, hopefully we see advancements from YouTube.
And then also at the very least,
do not blame YouTubers for what's happening.
No one wants that dumpster fire happening.
But then switching gears,
let's talk about some quickie news.
Starting with, you know,
there's so much news out there right now
about the presidency.
How does a Mr. Beast presidency sound to you?
Because the conversation around that future,
it kicked off online this week after Jimmy tweeted,
"'If we lower the age to run for president,
"'I'll jump in the race.'"
Well, the tweet alone generated a ton of headlines
and responses.
It was the followup that got even more attention
because this morning he added,
"'I wouldn't care about party lines.
It just always truly make the American people
my number one priority.
For problems I'm ignorant in,
I'd have experts from the left and right advise me on them
and try to find the best middle ground
that's best for America.
Wouldn't be viable, don't care about doing things
just because my party says I should,
and I would focus on uniting the country instead of dividing it.'" Well, a lot of people were like, that's best for America. Wouldn't be viable, don't care about doing things just because my party says I should.
And I would focus on uniting the country instead of dividing.
Well, a lot of people are like,
oh my God, I'd absolutely love that.
Which you know is not surprising
for a guy that just passed 300 million subscribers.
That's a lot of fans.
That's a lot of support.
Personally, I'm just, I'm so fascinated by this prospect.
Like I would love if legitimate pollsters
did a poll around this.
Like, would you support Mr. Beast for president?
If he could run right now or in the future.
And then let's say we fast forward 15 years
and we run the polls, but after he announces he's running
and he actually says what he supports.
Cause there's like three to five things minimum
that you're gonna lose 40% of the possible support
you could get just by having an opinion.
Or like in no way does Jimmy need to answer this question now.
It is a personal opinion of his.
Or at some point,
he'll have to have an official stance on abortion access.
No matter the answer,
a meaningful amount of support out the window.
And again, that's just one.
And this is not me specifically singling out Jimmy.
I'm bringing this up because it was a thing
that was said over the weekend.
But it is something I wonder about every time someone says,
you know, a Mr. Beast or The Rock or, you know, some celebrity,
they should run because everyone loves them.
But like, how often do you realize
that we like people that we know almost nothing about?
You know, that could be healthy.
Not everyone has to be like,
just fucking slinging their opinions left and right.
But when you become a politician
and you can affect what's legal or not legal,
yeah, the opinions matter.
They have to come out.
That said, I'm also interested in the prospect
of Jimmy 16 years from now having AOC do an obstacle course
to see if we can all get universal healthcare.
But then in more quickie serious news,
Alec Baldwin's trial is currently underway
for his involvement in the fatal shooting
on the set of Russ.
He's pleading not guilty to involuntary manslaughter charges.
A jury was just selected yesterday
and opening statements took off today.
And there we saw prosecutors arguing that Baldwin
was reckless and showed no regard for safety protocols.
When someone plays make believe with a real gun
in a real life workplace,
and while playing make believe with that gun
violates the cardinal rules of firearm safety, people's lives are endangered
and someone could be killed.
With them saying that while the trial will often refer
to the weapon as a prop gun, it was a real gun.
She also brought up Baldwin's prior claims
that he never pulled the trigger saying,
"'That's just not possible.'"
And then adding that he was responsible
for numerous firearm safety breaches.
But then as far as the defense goes,
they're arguing that Baldwin, he's just an actor
and he's not in charge of firearm safety.
That was the duty of other people.
This was an unspeakable tragedy,
but Alec Baldwin committed no crime.
He was an actor acting, playing the role of Harlan Rust.
An actor playing a character can act in ways that are lethal,
that just aren't lethal on a movie set.
These cardinal rules, they're not aren't lethal on a movie set.
These cardinal rules,
they're not cardinal rules on a movie set.
Safety is ensured before the actor.
And they are saying the people in charge of firearm safety,
they should have had dummies on set, not real bullets.
But I'm also notably saying that Baldwin was told
the gun was safe to use.
And that, of course, as the film's armor
has already been found,
guilty and sentenced to 18 months
for involuntary manslaughter. Which also on that note, if Baldwin is convicted,
he could likewise spend 18 months behind bars and face a $5,000 fine. And then, so we need to
talk about Joe Biden, and while you're currently seeing headlines like, before Biden can save
Ukraine, he must use the NATO summit to save himself. But then also everyone from the likes
of Fox News, framing it as a make or break moment for Biden, to the Associated Press,
describing it as an opportunity for him to quote,
"'Reset his stumbling campaign.'"
And all of this, as if you go online right now,
it's hard to know what's real or not.
There are real things like Michael Bennett
becoming the first Democratic Senator
to publicly question Biden's candidacy.
And you've had the likes of Democratic Congresswoman,
Mike E. Sherrill, becoming the ninth House Democrat
to call for Biden to drop out of the race.
But then, I mean, you've got the likes
of the Bezos bugle, right?
The folks of the Washington Post reporting, "'California Congressman Ted Lieu, "'the Vice out of the race. But then, I mean, you've got the likes of the Bezos bugle, right, the folks of the Washington Post reporting,
"'California Congressman Ted Lieu,
"'the Vice Chair of the Democratic Caucus,
"'said on a House Democratic call
"'that President Biden should not seek reelection.'"
Right, making him the highest ranking House Democrat
to call on Biden to step aside from his campaign.
But then Ted Lieu himself responding to a post
by Yashar Ali going,
"'Hey, great picture of me with Biden.
"'This is false.'"
With then actually Ted Lieu using the attention
to say this to reporters. We hear a lot from our constituents on different issues,
but something I've heard that doesn't seem to be being covered are the Epstein files. These files
were released and like Donald Trump's sort of all over this, right? There are pictures of him
with Jeffrey Epstein. He's taken multiple plane flights with Epstein with young girls on board.
He is on call logs with Epstein. One of the highest trending hashtags on Twitter right now
is about Trump and Epstein.
I'm not gonna repeat the hashtag
because we're in a dignified setting,
but yeah, y'all might wanna look at that
because that's highly disturbing.
And again, it shows that Donald Trump is unfit for office.
And by the way, he was convicted in a civilian court
for sexual assault,
convicted in a separate court of 34 felonies.
Donald Trump should drop out of the race.
And then, I mean, just this morning,
right before I started shooting this show,
I saw MSNBC, the outlet that you'd think
is probably the most pro-Biden out there.
They posted moments ago,
Democratic Senator Blumenthal, quote,
"'I am deeply concerned about President Biden.'"
Right, you see that and you go, holy shit, this is huge.
But then when you watch the full clip,
it is hard to see it as anything other than,
at the very least a wildly irresponsible
shortening of that quote that changes the entire narrative or at the very worst, an attempt to
mislead the public. I am deeply concerned about Joe Biden winning this November because it is
an existential threat to the country if Donald Trump wins. So I think that we have to reach a conclusion
as soon as possible.
And I think Joe Biden as the Democratic nominee
has my support.
Right, that is a wildly different statement.
Right, and so with all of that, I wanna say two things.
One, I'm not dismissing your concerns
if you're concerned about Biden's age and his performance.
Right, especially after that shit show of a debate.
But also at the same time, I want you to consider that there is
what could be described by some as a concerted effort,
not an all-encompassing, but a decent effort
from those in corporate media to take Biden out,
and that for a wide range of reasons.
Some wanna push him out as the nominee
and they wanna use their position to try to foster that,
whereas others' motives are connected
to the most true thing that Donald Trump has ever said,
and that is many who run these news organizations,
they miss Donald Trump, they miss Donald Trump.
They miss those views.
And so just something that I wanna stress with this
is be very skeptical of everything you're seeing right now.
There's a lot that's real.
There's a lot that's fake.
There's a lot that's being misconstrued
to push whatever narrative someone wants to push
for whatever reason.
But regarding Biden himself and this NATO summit,
he's actually said himself that the summit
is a good venue for judging his abilities.
And he's pointed to his leadership in rallying NATO support for Ukraine
as evidence that he's ready to serve for more years. With him also in a speech kicking off
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So with that, you had outlets like Politico
and the New York Times who, to be clear,
haven't hesitated to report on the concerns
around Biden's age and mental fitness,
noting he was clear and forceful,
speaking in a strong voice with few errors.
But of course, you know, different people
got to watch that speech and come out
with very different opinions on the guy's abilities,
which is also why it's notable how Biden's trying
to differentiate himself about Trump
on more substantive policy matters regarding Ukraine.
Right, Trump's known for criticizing NATO member states
for not honoring their 2014 commitment
to spend 2% of their GDP on defense spending.
And back in February, he actually said
that he wouldn't provide military protection
to any member state that had not met
its financial obligations to NATO.
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that are meeting the 2% target has jumped from 9 to 23. He also announced the delivery of new air
defenses for Ukraine, along with the Netherlands, Germany, Italy, and Romania, which is big because
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Russia has been able to hammer the country with airstrikes, right? Like we saw on Monday when
Russia launched a deadly strike on a children's hospital in the country.
And you know, all of this is happening
as people outside of the US understand
that there's a lot at stake in this election
outside of the country,
which is actually something NATO
has been trying to get ready for.
They're seeing European leaders using the NATO summit
to explain the importance of the military alliance
to American voters.
But this also is they're looking to Trump-proof the alliance.
And that in a number of ways,
including by moving control of major elements
of military aid to Ukraine,
away from the US to other parts of NATO.
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how the rest of this summit plays out.
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And then non-citizen voting.
Let's talk about it.
Because it's all over the news today,
thanks to the Republican controlled house.
With them voting on requiring proof of citizenship
when registering to vote.
Which one, follows their efforts to explicitly ban
non-citizens from voting in Washington, DC
and across multiple states.
And two, on Monday, the party approved
a new draft party platform,
which demands that proof of citizenship
be required when voting.
With that also expected to pass next week at the convention.
All of which may make you ask two things.
One, isn't this already a thing?
And two, if not, why is there all of a sudden,
out of nowhere, a sudden push to require proof of citizenship
and bar non-citizens from voting?
And to start with the latter there, you know,
for Republicans, two major policy points for the party
are voting integrity and immigration.
On top of that, you know,
conservatives see cities like Santa Ana, California
considering allowing non-citizens to vote
in local elections and freaking out.
With House Speaker Mike Johnson
even recently addressing that exact thing
while visiting Trump at Mar-a-Lago saying,
"'It could, if there are enough votes,
"'affect the presidential election.
"'We cannot wait for widespread fraud to occur,
"'especially when the threat of fraud is growing
"'with every single illegal immigrant
"'that crosses that border.'"
Then that brings us to your first question,
isn't this already illegal?
And well, yeah, it is already illegal in federal elections,
which the presidential election is.
Which also ended up being exactly what the Biden
administration said when it suggested to House Republicans
that Biden would veto their non-citizen voting bill.
Saying it is already illegal for non-citizens to vote
in federal elections.
It is a federal crime punishable by prison and fines.
Additionally, making a false claim of citizenship
or unlawfully voting in an election is punishable
by removal from the United States
and a permanent bar to admission.
States already have effective safeguards in place
to verify voters' eligibility
and maintain the accuracy of voter rolls.
With the Biden administration then going on to say
that this bill, it wouldn't make American elections
any safer than they already are,
and instead it would just make it harder
for eligible Americans to vote.
Though there, to be fair, the current law only bars
non-citizens from voting in federal elections, right?
Other elections are left up to the local governments, which is why we've seen Alabama, to be fair, the current law only bars non-citizens from voting in federal elections, right? Other elections are left up to the local governments,
which is why we've seen Alabama, Colorado, Florida,
Louisiana, North Dakota, and Ohio,
all amending their constitutions
to explicitly ban non-citizens from voting.
Those are several other states
looking at similar amendments.
There, it's also argued that without explicitly banning it,
most jurisdictions operate under the assumption
that it's just not allowed,
which has made it so that voting by non-citizens
is extremely rare.
And also the idea that illegal aliens get onto voter rolls
in very large numbers, it has no basis in reality.
Some of the best recent data actually coming out of Georgia
after the last election
and Trump's accusation of voter fraud,
Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger
conducted an audit of their voter rolls.
Some even specifically searching for non-citizens
who are registered to vote.
What they ended up finding is that in the past 25 years,
1,634 people tried to register,
but every single one was caught
before getting on the rolls.
And then also just across the country,
it's super fucking rare.
Then, you know, there's the issue of non-citizens
who are allowed to vote in local elections.
The situation there is that very few jurisdictions
allow this, and when they do,
it's usually limited to only legal residents
and for things like school board and city council.
So you have people arguing,
you could literally put a little marker next to their name
on the voting roll that indicates they only get a ballot with campaigns
they're allowed to vote in and the problem solved.
So it's because of all, or at least some of that,
that House Democrats have blasted Republican efforts
to pass their non-citizen voting bill.
But for example, representative Joe Morales saying,
"'It appears the lesson Republicans learned
"'from the fiasco that the former president caused in 2020
"'was not don't steal an election,
"'it was just start earlier.
"'The coup starts here, this is where it begins.
And so what we're seeing here is, you know,
it touches on the push and pull the Democrats
and Republicans generally have about voting.
Democrats generally want as few hurdles as possible
in order to ensure as many Americans can vote.
They point out that you already need
a social security number or other proof of citizenship
when registering to vote.
And the bill that's being voted on today,
it'll just require additional proof.
But the argument being that by forcing someone
to produce it again when actually voting,
it doesn't actually change anything.
Saying all it does is open up the possibility
of disenfranchising voters who may have lost their ID
or their birth certificate and can't afford to replace it.
But then on the other side, you have Republicans arguing
that this will help secure our elections
and boost voter confidence in them.
Though others say that that is an issue
that they manufactured themselves.
But I gotta ask with all this, where do you land on it?
What do you think?
And then, the problems with kids and their cell phones,
it's getting a massive spotlight right now
because of this growing trend and the reactions to it.
Because cell phones in school,
they've been a problems in Zach Morris
was whipping out a brick at Bayside High.
Where things are now, it's very different.
States all over the country are taking action.
Most recently, you had the governor of Virginia this week
issuing an executive order to limit phone use
at public schools in the state.
And that order will have the education department
come up with a more specific plan on how to do so.
And it could also include bans of smartwatches and tablets,
with Virginia even devoting half a million dollars
to the effort.
But this issue, it actually started getting
a ton of attention back in June
when the Los Angeles Unified School District
approved a cell phone ban,
with the district announcing in a press release
that this is the largest district in the nation
to greenlight such a ban and adding,
"'Studies have shown that smartphones and social media
"'are distracting kids from learning,
"'eroding their mental health, "'andies have shown that smartphones and social media are distracting kids from learning, eroding their mental health,
and stifling in-person social connection.'"
And many who approved this ban noting
that phone use goes far above kids just not paying attention.
With one board member saying,
"'When I visit campuses during lunchtime,
my heart breaks to see students sitting alone,
isolated on their phones,
instead of engaging and learning with their peers.'"
And in fact, we're seeing things like
California Governor Gavin Newsom
supporting cell phone bans in schools in the state and telling Politico that he plans on working with the legislature to restrict their peers. And in fact, we're seeing things like California Governor Gavin Newsom supporting cell phone bans in schools in the state
and telling Politico that he plans on working
with the legislature to restrict their use.
And of course, that's notable because California policy
isn't just California policy,
it can be influential nationwide.
And actually on the state level,
the assembly already introduced a bill back in February
requiring districts to create phone policies,
which Newsom does support.
Though also notably, Florida was actually the first state
to ban phones in schools.
But there it varies from school to school,
how it's enforced, right?
Some banned them by saying phones
just have to be in backpacks,
which is also why a lot of eyes are on LA
because these policies can be more focused
at the district level.
In LA, I mean, it's a major district
with people wondering what kind of tech
this ban is going to expand to.
Or will the students have to lock their phones away?
Will the school just block access to social media?
What are the logistics? Though there, even though LA would be the biggest district to make this move, there are
plenty of other schools that they can turn to for examples. Different schools have taken different
approaches to phone bans. Some have their students put their phones in storage cubbies during class,
though perhaps the biggest new trend is phone locking bags. But in fact, NBC News reporting
that in 2023, schools in 41 states had invested in these bags, which you may be familiar with if
you've gone to concerts
or comedy shows in the past few years.
Most are made by a company called Yonder,
and you put your phone in the pouch, you lock it,
you carry it around with you during the day,
and then at the end, you take the bag
to a magnetic unlocking base,
and you're free to scroll again.
And their popularity in classrooms
has become an increasingly hot topic,
especially because you have teachers saying after COVID,
phones become bigger problems in schools,
saying it's no longer like kids
just texting under their desks. In fact, you had one principal turned superintendent in Massachusetts
telling the Washington Post that students are just full-ass watching YouTube videos in class.
They're refusing to put their phones away, which is why in 2021, she decided to bring these lock
pouches in, and not long after, neighboring districts did the same. And reportedly, many who
have tried this have found it very effective. With, for example, the vice principal at a middle school
in Manchester, Connecticut telling the Post that social media was increasing conflict among students. But after the
students began using lock bags, those conflicts died down and things like bathroom vaping sessions
they stopped because kids couldn't coordinate. And even though there the kids protested at first,
a lot have gotten over it. With one even telling the Post that it's nice that she can focus in
class, sometimes she even forgets her phone's on her. And you had an eighth grader saying at the
halls and the cafeteria they're louder now because people are actually talking
to each other in person.
Some students saying they've actually now made more friends.
And that middle school, right?
They're not an outlier.
You had the Akron Education Association in Ohio
telling Vox that after getting lock bags, fights decrease.
Also a Colorado principal telling Time Magazine
that students are less worried about what their peers
are saying about them online behind their backs.
This is a phenomenon that we're seeing
in other parts of the world as well.
I mean, a study from Norway found that middle schools
with general phone bans,
girls have fewer specialist care visits
for mental health issues.
Also noticing that bullying went down
for both boys and girls.
With all that said, you know,
there are still people that are very skeptical
about hyper strict bans.
With the conversation, for example,
saying there's just aren't enough studies
and hard evidence to actually prove the benefits.
And a lot of what we've talked about, it seems anecdotal.
And you have the madding that students need to learn
how to use phones responsibly,
not be fully detached from them.
And notably regarding LA, the LA Times spoke
to a board member who's not sold on the bans.
But I'm arguing that instead the schools need to respect
a student's ownership of something important to them.
And this is the Times also pointed to the burden
of enforcing these bans.
And then even when it comes to the yonder lock bags,
students at some schools have just found ways around them
or broken into them. And others noting that there are dozens
of anti-yonder petitions on change.org.
Some calling them a waste of money,
arguing that should be up to the teachers
on how phones are used in the classroom.
But then also, of course,
you have people worried about safety.
Where parents wanna be able to contact their children
in the event of an emergency.
Whether you're normal universal emergencies
or the ones that we almost specifically only see in America.
We have school officials in charge of these policies
saying they have answers for most of these questions.
With Raymond Dolphin, for example,
the assistant principal at the Connecticut Middle School
saying that if a shooting did happen,
students need to focus on hiding and staying quiet,
explaining the whole idea that you want every kid
to be taking out a phone and calling parents
is the exact opposite of the safety protocols.
And telling the Post that for other general emergencies,
teachers can call 911 on their phones
and most classrooms have a landline regardless.
And on top of that, if shit really hit the fan,
you could cut the bag open if you had to.
And then when it comes to family emergencies, right,
parents can contact the school's office
to get in touch with the students.
And there are also often medical exemptions
for students who might have their phones
for their health reasons.
And this is you have teachers saying, you know,
we know that some kids have found a way around the pouch.
And saying, even still, if enough kids
have their phones locked,
students feel less incentivized to use them.
And then as far as the argument of needing to treat kids
like adults, you had Washington Post columnist
Kate Cohen writing,
"'How can we possibly prepare students to battle technology
that is designed to be addictive?
Adults can't resist them either.'
One principle compares it with giving a kid a cigarette
and saying, here, be responsible."
Which is also, you know, a funny aspect of this debate
because in it, no one is arguing that phones
are not a problem, both generally and with young people and with schools. I mean, one study found that students
received 237 phone notifications a day, and many while in class. And back in June, I mean,
we talked about this. The U.S. Surgeon General urged for social media platforms to have warnings
about the harms they could pose to youth mental health, something akin to what you see on tobacco
and alcohol. But now with all that said and painted for you, I gotta pass the question off to you.
What are your thoughts here?
Are you for the bans?
Are you against them?
If you're for the bans, what does that look like?
I don't know, I'm really interested.
Then finally today to take the show back
from filling another shirt and haircut,
I wanna close today out with a congratulations.
And also I wanna talk about yesterday.
Starting with a congratulations to Walter T,
who just won our weekly $500 giveaway
towards his choice of SeatGeek tickets. With Walter saying he's using his winnings to hit up a Dallas to Walter T, who just won our weekly $500 giveaway towards his choice of SeatGeek tickets.
With Walter saying he's using his winnings
to hit up a Dallas Cowboys game,
to which I gotta say, Walter, why you gotta do that?
You know they're just gonna make you cry in the post-season.
Though I don't even know what the playoffs feel like.
I'm a Jets and Chargers fan.
But that was just a conversation for me and Walter.
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But then finally, let's talk about yesterday's show
because a lot of the comments,
y'all like when angry Phil comes out too much.
And yeah, he has a way with words
and I love him a little bit,
but I generally try to keep that guy locked in the basement.
But I'm glad you guys got entertained,
and this time when he came out,
it was during an opportune time,
rather than me stubbing my toe
and me just taking out like nine months of anger
out on some drywall.
But yeah, as far as the rest of the comments,
a lot of the conversation was about Sketch
and that whole outing,
with unsurprisingly the vast majority of people
on Sketch's side, proper bird saying,
the people saying Sketch lied to them are especially weird.
Unless you're in a relationship with him,
he doesn't owe anyone a background check
on his sexual history.
And Seiko adding, they're the same person who say,
I don't care who you sleep with, just keep it to yourself.
And then when someone did keep it to themselves
and hide it from them, suddenly you lied to us.
You should have told us from the beginning if you're gay.
Like which one is it, Kevin?
With many just noting that Sketch made them laugh.
Quote, I did not have sexual relations with that man.
I'm just kidding.
I did.
Is absolutely iconic from Sketch.
I also saw Tellio say, people more mad at Sketch
for having a gay video and not mad at Dr. Disrespect
for literally talking sexually to a child is wild.
Though there, I have to ask, was that actually happening?
Because I could only find comments of people
saying that was happening, but I didn't see them.
I'm not saying that that's not the case if it was that's insane
Even if people were drawing comparisons
That's insane especially because as people who aren't even familiar with sketch were saying it was shameless thing
I can't say I've ever heard of this sketch until this evening
But when Phil presented the story my reaction was why is this a story as long as sketch and whoever else in the videos were?
Consenting adults they have nothing to be ashamed of they didn't commit any crime
We all have done things that we regret and we just have to learn from our mistakes As long as Sketch and whoever else in the videos were consenting adults, they have nothing to be ashamed of. They didn't commit any crimes.
We all have done things that we regret and we just have to learn from our mistakes.
That's part of growing up.
With him then adding, frankly, we should, if anything, be jealous of Sketch for having friends and family that give him love and support to remind him that he didn't do anything wrong and they'll be with him no matter what.
But then finally, to everyone saying, please make your fast but you're not faster than a Google search, a t-shirt.
Why would you wear that? We have spent so much time making like the perfect cut
and sew so it's just like the best fucking shirt
you could possibly wear at an affordable price.
And when we put designs on things,
there's like thought and effort put into most of them.
So I just gotta ask, in what setting
does you wearing that shirt make sense?
But yeah, still fuck Tyreek Hill, that woman beater.
But that is actually how we're gonna end today's show. I hope you feel filled in on this Wednesday evening, Thursday
morning dive into the news. And the good thing, you don't have to miss my stupid face for too long
because I'll be right back here tomorrow to talk more news with you.