The Philip DeFranco Show - PDS 7.8 Big Moist Critikal Drama & Apology, SSSniperwolf “Framed”, UK & French Election Fallout & More News
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Sup you beautiful bastards. Welcome back to the Philip DeFranco show. You daily dive into the news.
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In big and requested internet drama news, let's talk about Moist Critical, Sniper Wolf,
an apology, and an alleged framing.
And all of this connects back to React content
and copyright strikes being back in the news.
Because at the outset of this,
it just seemed like more bad news about Sniper Wolf.
Because as you might remember, last year,
there was that major controversy between her
and that other creator, Jack's films.
But that just absolutely blowing up after she doxxed him
by posting a photo from outside his house.
You know, it was just this whole big thing in the community.
And it started after Jack had been critical
of Sniperwolf's reaction content.
Saying among other things that she wasn't transforming
or adding anything meaningful to the videos
that she reacts to.
And therefore it's actually just stealing people's content
and not giving credit.
And the reason that I talk about this thing
that happened almost nearly a year ago is that a smaller creator just accused Sniperwolf of copyright striking him, all because he reacted to her content.
See, a few months ago, the channel One Giant Onion made a video called Watching Sniperwolf Until I Laugh.
The men watching three hours of her content and not laughing, seemingly to try to make the point that she's not funny or doing anything substantial in her reaction videos.
But then with that, he recently put out a video saying that she hit him with a strike.
And this is completely unjust because as you all know,
Sniperwolf doesn't do any transformative content
at all really, she's a react channel.
Sniperwolf is notorious for stealing other people's videos
and not crediting the original creators at all.
So with him arguing that it just doesn't make sense
for her to do this because he was really just doing
the same thing that she does, that was part of the point.
And there, noting that it especially hurts him
because his channel is so much smaller
than Sniper Wolf's who has over 34 million subscribers.
Now, because she's such a large creator,
there's not really anything I can do.
She has a lot of power and I don't really have any power
over YouTube or anything like that.
With the most batting of this strike,
it puts his channel and his income in danger.
And so his story, it starts gaining some traction
and then it absolutely blows up thanks to the likes
of Moist Critical putting out a video yesterday. Now, technically you could argue one
giant onion was in the wrong because he took three hours worth of her content and didn't transform it.
He just sat there not giving a ton of input and definitely not laughing at it. However,
Sniper Wolf doesn't own her own content either. She steals it. She doesn't have the right to that content
that she's reacting to in the first place.
Thus, she shouldn't be able to strike one giant onion
for reacting to that content.
Right, and saying as others have argued,
it's just incredibly hypocritical for her to do this.
Especially because someone like Sniperwolf,
they should understand just how serious it can feel
to get hit with a strike.
Sniperwolf has been on the platform for so long now,
she knows just how special it is to be a content creator
and how much a strike hurts that,
like the kind of toll that takes.
And yet she still went through with that.
That is so sad.
That is heartless.
But then here's the thing with all this,
Sniperwolf responds saying,
"'I wanna clarify that I did not strike anyone's video.
"'I do not have any pending takedown notices.
"'I believe someone else must have done it on my behalf.
With Voice Critical then responding,
if that's true, you should contact the strike channel
and get the information of the person who did strike it
so you can take legal action against them.
There's a huge problem with this dog shit
on the platform right now,
so it'd be great to put a stop to it.
That then seemingly creating a side feud of its own
with Sniperwolf defending herself,
saying the channel made no effort to contact her
and adding that it is irresponsible
to post a video with false information.
We also saw her as of this morning
saying she reached out to one giant onion on Twitter
to say it is not her or her claim
and he should contact someone about it.
And there, as of recording,
it does look like he's trying to get more information
on what's going on.
With then one of the biggest updates
being that Moist Critical actually put out a video today
titled Sniperwolf Did Not Strike a Channel
and in it, he apologized.
So apologies to Sniperwolf. Not Strike a Channel and in it, he apologized. So apologies to Sniper Wolf.
I'm sorry for the big headache that this must have caused
when she didn't do it.
She wasn't the one that issued the strike.
With Moist saying that he was able to look
at all the information that one giant onion received
about the strike.
And from what he saw, it looked like it came
from someone pretending to work for an agency
that claimed to represent Sniper Wolf.
With him then going on to talk about the history of
and the continued problems of impersonator strikes.
As far as the history, talking about the guy
that impersonated Bungie and that whole ordeal,
where Bungie actually hit a YouTuber
with a $7.6 million lawsuit.
And while Charlie and I think many others do credit YouTube
with doing a relatively good job
when it comes to situations like this,
seemingly more needs to be done.
And specifically, it needs to be done on YouTube's end.
Noting that there are limitations to what a creator
or just a regular person can do in a situation like this. I also asked if she would be taking any action against them for the
impersonation strikes, since it is illegal. And we have already seen a legal case from this with
Bungie, as well as YouTube themselves doing this. I've mentioned this all the time. YouTube dunked
on a false flagger back in like 2019. They ruined annihilated them so i asked if sniper wolf would
be trying to take action she talks about how they're a foreign company so it's pretty hard
and she's right since it is a foreign entity her options are kind of limited there so it's going to
really be up to youtube to solve this issue apparently this group has done this multiple
times in the past and now they've just done it again. So it looks like the only option to save the day is going to be sending up the bat signal and hoping YouTube will put on
the cape and shut this group down and maybe they will pursue something legally against them because
this is an issue that is spiraling out of control now. But ultimately that is where we are with this
right now. It'll be interesting to see if anything does actually happen on YouTube's end here, if we
get more information, if there's gonna be more of a crackdown.
But in the meantime, I gotta ask,
what are your thoughts and opinions,
both on the specific issue
of the Moise Critical sniper wolf situation,
as well as the more grand and overarching story here.
But then let's shift gears to some quickie news,
starting with the fact that Andrew Tate is free,
at least to leave Romania, right?
And that, because a court in Romania ruled over the weekend
that both he and his brother Tristan
can actually leave the country,
but they have to stay in the European Union.
Right, because while they were out of prison,
they were previously locked in Romania,
but now they have more mobility.
With the Tate's lawyer telling the New York Times
that it seems like the court is gradually loosening its grip
with him also adding in a statement.
"'We embrace and applaud the decision of the court today.
"'I consider it a reflection of the exemplary behavior
"'and assistance of my clients.
"'Andrew and Tristan are still determined
"'to clear their name and reputation.'"
And Andrew responding to the news on Twitter by saying,
"'I am free. The sham case is falling apart.'"
Though there, one, the Tate's are still awaiting trial
for the sex trafficking and rape charges against them.
And two, just this morning,
it appears they got more bad news,
right, because you have outlets in the UK now reporting
that a court in London is hearing tax evasion claims
against them, with it being alleged
they haven't paid taxes on $27 million in revenue.
But as far as if anything comes from that,
that remains to be seen.
And also, I mean, with the trial in Romania,
there still hasn't been a date set.
So the slow roll just appears to be continuous.
But then in quick business news,
we saw Paramount agreeing to a merger with Skydance Media.
And looking at it, it's actually a pretty complicated deal.
It comes amid months of negotiations and offers and drama
that, I mean, could fill an entire season of succession.
But I mean, it spells out a big shift in Hollywood
because Paramount was run by one family, right?
The Red Stones, for decades.
But in this deal, Skydance's David Ellison
would actually take charge, which I mean,
that's just a huge shift for one of Hollywood's
most historic studios.
You know, all of this coming as Paramount's
had a very rough go of it in the Netflix and streaming era.
With them spending billions on its own service,
only to kind of be late to the game
and struggling to get people to sign up.
With reports saying that its shares have fallen
over 75%
in the last five years.
But I mean, keep in mind, this is not a done deal.
As far as where things stand right now,
the merger, it has a 45 day period
that still allows Paramount's board
to search around for better deals.
But I mean, as the New York Times has explained,
if it closes, it will anoint a new mogul in Hollywood.
Saying the deal is in some ways the story of media writ large
with a family that made its fortune
in traditional entertainment largely replaced by one enriched by technology.
Right in there, noting that David Ellison's father
is Larry Ellison, the founder of Oracle.
And then, you know, as far as the future of Paramount,
you actually had Ellison speaking about that
on an investor call today, saying the goal is to double down
on Paramount's prowess as one of the world-class
storytelling enterprises and also ensure the company
is positioned to be able to expand into a tech hybrid.
Right in reports, noting that the new leadership
really emphasized the tech angle a lot.
And so also with that saying that rebuilding
the Paramount Plus streaming service
and other direct to consumer businesses,
that that was a top priority.
Which I think is probably smart because as far as when,
when I think about Paramount Plus,
I just think of it as the third rate streaming service
that I constantly confuse with Peacock.
Like every now and then I'll find myself going like,
what's that show I wanna watch?
It's on one of the P ones.
Which, you know, while anecdotal,
cause it's just my experience, probably not a great sign.
And then Boeing just pled guilty to conspiring
to defraud the FAA.
Right, and specifically this is over allegations
that they misled the FAA about the software responsible
for their fatal 737 MAX crashes.
With those two, as you might remember,
nosediving in Indonesia and Ethiopia in 2018 and 2019.
Because by automatically pushing the plane's nose down
in certain conditions, the software aimed to save money
by reducing the training needed for pilots.
But of course it malfunctioned,
leading to what the judge last year called
the deadliest corporate crime in US history,
killing 346 people and leaving hundreds,
if not thousands of loved ones grieving.
We miss her so, so much, every minute.
I've been losing sleep over what,
when's the next crash gonna happen?
I did not only lost my daughter,
I lost my past, my today, my future.
And actually, as a part of the plea deal,
Boeing's board of directors have to meet
with those relatives.
And this after CEO Dave Calhoun apologized
for those deaths in a Senate hearing last month.
I apologize for the grief that we have caused.
But arguably more significant with this plea deal
is that Boeing's gonna have to pay a fine of $244 million,
which notably is the exact amount it's believed
to have saved from using the faulty software.
And that'll be in addition to at least $455 million
over the next three years
to boost safety and compliance programs,
both of which are relatively small
compared to the $2.5 billion fine Boeing paid
in a previous settlement in 2021,
or that $20 billion it lost during the 20 months when its MAX planes were grounded by the $2.5 billion fine Boeing paid in a previous settlement in 2021, or that $20 billion it lost during the 20 months
when its MAX planes were grounded by the FAA.
So now the judge just has to approve the plea deal
and the world's biggest aerospace company
will literally be declared a convicted felon.
For whatever that's worth, I guess.
I mean, it's an abstract legal entity.
Tons of people died, money's being spent,
no one's going behind bars.
Instead, what we're seeing is, you know,
the DOJ will select an independent monitor
to oversee the firm's compliance
and publicly file annual progress reports.
So essentially for the next three years,
Boeing's on probation and they could face further penalties
if they're not good.
Also, I mean, the conviction could threaten its ability
to bid for government contracts
from the likes of NASA and the Pentagon.
So there, I mean, it could still try to get waivers
and you better believe it's gonna fight like hell for them.
Right, I mean, we're talking about a company
that got nearly $23 billion in contracts
from the DOD alone last year, with government contracts bringing in 37% of their revenue during that time. I mean, going back talking about a company that got nearly $23 billion in contracts from the DOD alone last year.
With government contracts bringing in 37% of their revenue during that time.
I mean, going back, all those penalties, like, that's not enough for many victims' families.
With many wanting the DOJ to seek a fine of as much as $25 billion, and most all, they wanted a trial.
With the mother of one victim telling Western Mass News,
If a human being, a regular individual, killed 346 people, believe me, they would not be getting a plea deal.
But we can't put this corporation in jail.
We should be jailing the executives for the corporation.
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Which is why some of the victim's family's lawyers say they plan to ask the judge not to approve the plea deal.
Arguing that, you know, it gets Boeing on a conspiracy fraud charge, but it ignores the most important crime of all.
The deaths of 346 people.
Though there, we've seen the DOJ counter saying that manslaughter charges would be too hard to prove. And also saying the statute of limitations
makes going after specific individuals very difficult.
And as far as Boeing, you know,
they're gonna try and move on and bury all this in the past.
But I'm now looking forward to getting a fresh new CEO
later this year and hopefully acquiring Spirit Aerosystems.
Though this also happening as they're facing
another criminal probe into the Alaska Airlines
door plug blowout back in January.
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And then I've got a bioethical dilemma for you.
And I know you're thinking,
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And yeah, I know, that's why I'm asking you.
So this has to do with organ donation.
Because as you're very likely aware,
there are way more people who need organs
than there are organs available to give them.
With there being about 100,000 people
currently on waiting lists,
17 of which die every single day.
But this is there's a lot of chatter right now
in the medical field about a solution
that this one doctor calls revolutionary
and another calls a game changer.
And it's called normothermic regional perfusioner,
NRP for short, and here's how it works.
Minutes after a patient dies,
a surgeon can cut them open and attach a pump,
usually to their heart.
That, it gets the blood pumping again,
and it restores the flow of oxygen-rich blood to the organs.
So whereas the organ, you know, let's say a liver
or a kidney would normally become oxygen deprived
before getting put on ice,
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And that not only increases the number of organs available
for transplant, it also raises the odds
that an organ will work after it's transplanted.
Which is why unsurprisingly,
about half of the 56 organ procurement organizations
in the US have already started using NRP
and more are planning to do so.
But notably you have some holding out
because of passionate criticism, both moral and legal.
And it's mainly focused on how NRP,
it blurs the line between life and death.
See, because there are only two ways
that someone can actually be officially declared dead.
Either they are brain dead
or their heart stops beating permanently.
But NRP, it restarts the heartbeat.
So critics say that it actually reverses the very thing
that made the declaration of death
and therefore the organ retrieval possible
in the first place.
The argument is that the surgeon is just treating death
like a formality, a box to check off.
With them just waiting there for the patient's heart
to stop beating so they can go, okay, dead,
and immediately get it beating again.
Which is why you have this one bioethicist telling NPR,
the bottom line is that NRP violates
foundational ethical norms around the determination
of death and should not be pursued.
With them also helping to write a policy statement
opposing NRP for the American College of Physicians.
But then on the other side of this,
you have supporters of NRP saying,
hey, the surgeon clamps off blood flow to the brain
during the procedure.
So one of the arguments is there's no danger
of the patient resuming any brain activity,
nevermind regaining consciousness.
So there, critics say they worry that some blood flow
might still get through and activate neurons,
which you know, wouldn't wake that person up,
but it could throw into question
whether they are really dead or not.
But there you have Dr. Marty Seller
as an advocate of NRP telling the outlet,
it's irrefutable that we are not causing
"'any increased deaths with NRP,
"'and we are saving more lives with NRP.
"'And if you can argue with that,
"'I don't have much to say to you.'"
And saying, while people are discussing
the pros and cons of it, people are dying.
Which is why I gotta ask, what are your thoughts here?
I'd love to hear from you in those comments down below.
And then we've gotta talk about Russia, Ukraine,
because yesterday Russian missiles hit civilian targets all over Ukraine
including a prominent children's hospital. Now Russia's defense ministry
they claimed without any evidence that the Children's Hospital wasn't actually their fault saying instead it was due to quote the fall of a Ukrainian air
defense missile. However, the actual evidence from the scene is that it looks like it was a Russian kh-101 cruise missile with scenes from the hospital
also showing that a large section of it collapsed and voices can be heard from the rubble.
Although Kyiv was hardly the only city attacked
and in total over 50 civilian buildings were damaged
across the country and over 30 people were killed.
Though it also reportedly could have gotten a lot worse
except for the fact that Ukrainian defense systems
reportedly shot down 30 of the 38 missiles
that Russia launched.
Now Russia, they tried to justify the attack
by claiming that it only targeted military targets
and because Ukraine has struck Russia itself.
Also regarding that, Ukraine has been hitting targets within Russia,
although they're notably energy
and other military related targets like ammo depots.
And this is, you know, Russia's excuse
that it only targeted military targets,
it doesn't check out.
Where pretty much everything hit was a civilian building
and it doesn't help that Russia has terrorized
Ukrainian citizens with indiscriminate attacks
since the war began.
So it's not like it's this random one-off incident.
And so it's unsurprising to see that following the attack,
there's been widespread condemnation.
But with that, when Ukraine tried to bring up the issue
with the UN Security Council, that didn't go anywhere.
And that, because Russia's actually the current chair
of the council.
And there, quote, Ukraine is not on the agenda this month,
with that body once again proving itself
to be pretty useless.
Within Ukraine, we saw the head
of the presidential administration tweeting,
"'This shelling targeted civilians, hit infrastructure,
and the whole world should see today the consequences of terror,
which can only be responded to by force."
And online, you had Zelensky adding,
"'Russia cannot claim ignorance
of where its missiles are flying
and must be held fully accountable for all its crimes.'"
And while in person during a meeting
with the Polish prime minister in Warsaw, he said,
"'We will retaliate against these people.
We will deliver a powerful response
from our side to Russia for sure.
The question to our partners is, can they respond?
Also online, we've seen content creators speaking out,
creators like Zeppla, for example,
you know, is from the US but lived in Bukha
and managed to get out just before Russia
massacred nearly 1400 people there.
And he had this to say, saying,
"'Russians fired a direct hit
"'on a children's cancer hospital in Kyiv today.
"'They know exactly what they are doing
"'and they just don't care.
"'Praying for justice as people work
"'to rescue survivors from the rubble this morning.
Also the timing of this attack for Russia
probably couldn't be worse either
because NATO leaders are actually due to meet
for a three day summit about Ukraine this week.
And during that, it's expected that discussions
about whether to expand to Ukraine
and how much will be discussed.
So if Russia's mission was to discourage Ukrainian resistance
with attacks like this, it's gonna do the opposite.
With Putin now giving Zelensky the perfect chance
to go in front of NATO to point to these atrocities
and say, hey, we need more aid.
And then, so most Americans probably already think
that 2024, it's gonna be a crazy election year,
but here's the truth.
It's already been a crazy election year.
I mean, just this weekend alone,
we saw groundbreaking elections in both the UK and France
with the parties on the left coming out on top.
With the numbers from both being absolutely wild.
I mean, first step, you had the UK snap election
happening on July 4th, and there we saw
a different kind of British ousting.
With the parties there only having a few months to prepare
as former Prime Minister Rishi Sunak
called for them back in late May.
But I mean, even at the time, it's seeming crazy to do that
as the Conservative Party was extremely unpopular
and Sunak couldn't get his government to pass a damn thing.
But also, most pundits actually felt like
it was probably the best time to do it
because the Conservatives' popularity
was continuing to go down
Anyways, so there was this belief of hey the numbers gonna be bad, but they may be worse further down the line
However, as you heard me say before Sunak is the former prime minister and the Tories they didn't just lose
They took their worst beating since 1906 winning just 121 out of 650 seats and And mind you, in 2019, they won 365.
And as far as the Labor Party,
they had an amazing turnaround,
winning a clear majority of 412 seats
in the House of Commons.
Which also means that you and I have to remember the name
of the now fifth prime minister
in just the past eight years, Keir Starmer.
Also on the note of recent history,
this win ends the 14 years of conservative rule there,
which also isn't surprising.
Many Brits have become disillusioned with Brexit.
They're angry at all the controversies
that the government has had over the past few years.
And the general feeling is that things
are just getting worse and worse.
And in fact, after winning, Starmer told the country,
I have no doubt that we will rebuild Britain.
Brick by brick, we will rebuild
the infrastructure of opportunity.
And for his part, Sunak took responsibility
for his party's loss.
But with that said, we gotta jump to the French election
because the results yesterday were crazy.
When we last spoke,
it seemed like the far right national rally,
they were gonna sweep things.
The France was taking a hard pivot to the right.
And the big thing with French elections
is that if no one gets 50% of the vote,
it goes to a runoff.
And while the national rally did win a lot of seats outright,
it wasn't enough to secure anything for sure.
But the numbers for the national rally, still very strong.
And it seemed like, hey, they might be able to get
a clear majority or at least something pretty close.
But after seeing the initial success for the right,
the left party as a Macron centrist one panicked
and they bowed to more or less work together
to stop the right from winning more seats.
One of the most effective ways they did this
was by encouraging their candidates who got third place
in the first round of elections to just drop out
and encourage their supporters to vote against the
National rally and well, yeah, there's some nuance to this is there are a bunch of parties
They don't always get along so this didn't happen every single time more or less
It is how it went and it clearly worked because the national rally they went from looking like they'd went around
260 seats to just a hundred forty two
But then the biggest winners actually being the left-wing coalition new New Popular Front, who scored 182 seats while Macron's party
went from being way behind the others to getting 163 seats.
Which while yeah, that is way less than the 245
they won in 2022,
it is far better than they were projected to do.
All that said, I mean, New Popular Front coming out on top,
it's a huge surprise for a number of reasons.
I mean, one, it did look like France
was taking a hard right turn in 2024,
but also, I mean, this is a group
that is literally a few weeks old,
with notably the largest party in that coalition
being France Unbound.
And that's actually gonna make things kind of complicated
because they and Macron,
they definitely do not like each other,
with Macron even calling them troublemakers in the past.
Making things even more awkward is that Macron
has spent years talking shit about the left
and proclaiming that they were dead in French politics.
So understand this is a win for the center and the left,
but things, they are very likely gonna get messy.
I mean, right out the gate, no party has a clear majority
and all three don't really wanna work together.
So at the very least, it's gonna be hard
for a single person to become prime minister
and be able to form a majority government.
And I mean, from there, it's gonna be even harder
to outlast any potential no confidence votes.
Also on that front, France Unbowed is demanding
that Macron name a new prime minister from the left party.
We also saw the current prime minister attempting to resign
since he no longer had a clear majority,
but Macron denied that resignation,
instead asking him to stay in place
until things are figured out,
so at least someone's in charge.
As far as the national rally,
they seem to be taking the loss in stride,
with Marine Le Pen telling supporters,
"'The tide is rising.'
It didn't rise high enough this time,
but it is still rising."
Which I mean, on that note,
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And then, you know what,
say what you want about the US government,
but it always does a fantastic job
of like taking these decade-old
issues and then continuing to do nothing about them. There's this problem that is plaguing
hundreds of thousands of Americans today, and the unfortunate thing is it's like a decades-old
issue. In fact, to properly explain this and convey just how ridiculous it is, we have to go
all the way back to January of 1955. You are here to participate in an atomic maneuver.
Right, it's the height of the Cold War.
Americans are terrified of communism,
and there is a genuine fear that the Soviet Union
might attack the United States.
So for the past several years,
the US military has been doing training exercises in Nevada
to prepare for that event.
And generals imagine themselves using nuclear weapons
on American soil to repel a Soviet invasion.
Today, the latest weapons,
coupled with the fighting skill of the American soldier,
stand ready.
Five, four, three, two, one.
Minutes after the blast, the troops are moving forward toward ground zero to see for themselves the effects of nuclear devices.
I mean, back then, they actually thought that soldiers would just march into the mushroom cloud to finish off, I guess, whatever enemy troops somehow survived that. And although the Soviet invasion obviously never came, the United States detonated bomb after bomb after bomb, conducting over 200 atmospheric tests of nuclear weapons in
the Nevada desert and the Marshall Islands between 1946 and 1962. And all the while, the military
knew about the dangers of radiation exposure right from the beginning. Not only because the
survivors of Hiroshima and Nagasaki died off in the tens of thousands over the years that followed,
but also because the U.S. occupation forces there suffered from the exact same ailments,
from cancers to sores to rashes and hair falling out.
And at the same time,
researchers were studying the effects of radiation
on American civilians as well,
and sometimes without the patient's informed consent,
something that was revealed by the Albuquerque Tribune
in 1993, with then President Clinton apologizing in 1995
for an experiment conducted in the mid 40s.
Scientists injected plutonium into 18 patients
without their knowledge.
In another, doctors exposed indigent cancer patients
to excessive doses of radiation,
a treatment from which it is virtually impossible
that they could ever benefit.
But as you just saw in the beginning,
they weren't the only unwitting test subjects
of the atomic weapons program.
Because throughout the entire period between 1946 and 63,
as many as four or 500,000 soldiers and sailors
observed the blast from just a few miles away,
either on ships or in trenches.
When you remember that the government knew
how dangerous the radiation was at the time,
the stories are insane.
Even before reaching the test site,
sailors were showered in radioactive rainwater
from the previous blasts.
With them then ordered to decontaminate the decks
by scrubbing them with long handled brushes.
And doing all this with little to no protective equipment,
basically just regular clothes,
and if they were really lucky, some fucking goggles.
With one vet even recalling.
We all had to stand on the main deck
and turn our backs and put our hands over our eyes.
And then the blast hit, and they could feel the heat,
hear the deafening roar
and see their ship trembling as the shockwave knocked some of them off their feet. The first
bomb, I had my hands over my eyes, they detonated it and I could see all the bones in my hand.
Which yeah, when you have x-ray vision like Superman, you can safely assume you've received
an unsafe dose of radiation. And all of this was part of the US government testing not only the
bombs themselves, but the effect they had on equipment and people.
Because again, leaders are imagining
they're gonna deploy these suckers
on the battlefield someday.
Though thankfully, Kennedy banned above ground
and underwater tests in 1963.
For the first time, an agreement has been reached
on bringing the forces of nuclear destruction
under international control.
But, I mean, they just went underground instead,
with more than 800 tests continuing as late as 1992.
And according to the National Association of Atomic Veterans
throughout the whole atomic age,
from the first test to Voppenheimer's bomb
to the very last,
more than 1 million US armed forces personnel,
civilian scientists and engineering technicians
were involved in the detonation of nuclear
and thermonuclear weapons.
And you know, we're not just talking about the people
who stood there and watched the bombs go off.
Or there's also the crews who came in years later to clean up the mess, once again, without much protective equipment.
With Keith Kiefer, who was deployed to the Marshall Islands in 1978, saying,
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You're not going to get exposed to any more radiation
than you would walking around the city of New York
or living in Denver, Colorado,
or wearing a watch with a radium dial.
He worked 12-hour days, six days a week,
digging up irradiated soil
and drinking heavily irradiated water.
And then six months later,
going home and quickly suffering unexplained symptoms.
Deep, deep muscle pain, bone aches,
fevers that would come and go without-
He eventually found out that he was sterile,
he had autoimmune diseases, degenerative bone disease,
and spinal stenosis.
With him saying, by the age of 40,
I was told I had the bone structure of a 90 year old.
But he and all the other so-called atomic veterans,
they were forbidden from speaking about their involvement in the atomic weapons program. So even when they got
ill, they couldn't even tell their doctors they might have been exposed to radiation. And that
veil of secrecy, it wasn't lifted until 1996. So by that time, the plight of atomic veterans was
already well known for years. So much so that in the late 70s, Congress began debating legislation
that would compensate atomic veterans. But it wasn't until 1990 that the Radiation Exposure
and Compensation Act, or RICA, was
passed, providing lump sum payments of up to $100,000, not only to atomic veterans,
but also to two other groups that are often overlooked, uranium miners and downwinders.
The first of which is pretty self-explanatory, but the downwinders, they require a little
bit of an explanation.
They're all the people and the descendants of people who lived downwind from the nuclear
test site during that era.
It's kind of hard to wrap your head
around how much radiation they were exposed to
over the decades.
Collectively, all the bombs detonated
at the Nevada test site released 12 billion curies
of radiation, which makes the 81 million released
by Chernobyl look like child's play.
And so that nuclear fallout, it got carried by the wind
for hundreds of miles and it coated everything,
livestock, crops, soil, clothing, people.
And of course, the government did what the government does.
The government lied about the radiation.
So the people, they didn't know they were in danger.
Though at least in the 1950s,
they knew there were atomic tests going on.
Though the same can't be said
for Oppenheimer's Trinity test in New Mexico,
where the government claimed that the giant mushroom cloud
was just an explosion out of Unition's dome.
And so according to the documentary,
"'First We Bombed New Mexico,"
there were little girls dancing around in the ash,
tasting it on their tongues, thinking it was summer snow.
And this happened primarily there, as well as Nevada, Utah, and Arizona.
But also, it reached as far as Idaho, Oregon, and Washington.
With radiation contributing to thousands or possibly tens of thousands of deaths since then, though exact figures are hard to pin down.
And many more who didn't die, they suffered from debilitating diseases that they then passed on to their children and grandchildren.
With the same future generations reporting birth defects, cancers, immune disorders,
and other health problems throughout their lives.
I had cancer, my sisters had cancer, my only sister.
I thought, that's why my brother died of cancer,
that's why my mom died of cancer,
that's why my sister has a brain tumor.
The police has documented more than four dozen cases
of rare diseases and cancers in her immediate family.
And so since 1990, Rika has dispersed $2.7 billion
to around 40,000 atomic vets and others exposed to radiation.
Though it is very important to note,
it did not cover everybody.
To be eligible, you had to live in one of a few states,
have a certain disease, and show proof of both.
And for whatever reason, the list of eligible states
doesn't include New Mexico,
where the first Trinity test occurred.
But even with that, Rika's arguably less strict
than the requirements for VA benefits.
Right there, it can be hard to obtain documents
proving that you participated in nuclear testing,
especially since the vets were sworn to secrecy
about it for decades.
And then even when the VA does approve a case,
it can take years by which time the veteran
may already be dead or dying.
And so the PAC DAC, which is usually thought of
as the bill for burn pit victims,
it also expanded coverage for atomic veterans.
But in the year after it was signed,
the VA reportedly rejected 86% of radiation-related claims,
which is why one advocate says,
"'Although RECA offers fewer benefits than the VA,
"'it is much easier to navigate
"'and get veterans compensated far quicker.'"
And if a recent bill became law,
RECA would have not only been reauthorized,
but expanded as well.
Because the Democratic-led Senate,
they passed multiple bipartisan versions of it last year.
But when they reached the GOP-led House,
each one got stuck for months
because Republicans claimed that it was just too expensive.
And that, even though the bill's sponsor
said they whittled down the program's projected costs
from $143 billion to 50 or 60.
And the US already plans to spend $50 billion per year
to maintain its nuclear forces this decade.
But Speaker Mike Johnson
wouldn't even bring RICA up for a vote,
so the program expired on June 7th,
bringing a nearly 25-year effort
to atone for the crimes of America's Cold War to a premature end.
Not because the problem has been solved
or it's just some distant history.
No, atomic veterans are still alive today.
And they're as young as 60 and as old as 100.
And if you ask them, many say that it feels
like the government's just basically waiting
for them to die.
And also like some kind of sick joke,
the Defense Department recently handed out
commemorative service medals to atomic vets.
With one telling NBC,
it looks like something you'd win at a carnival.
And adding, I've been fighting this thing for 15 years.
There's nothing I can do about it.
We were guinea pigs.
But then on top of that, even when they do die,
this issue's not going away
because they have children and grandchildren
and great-grandchildren who will continue to suffer
the lingering effects of bombs dropped seven decades ago.
And as far as what happens next,
is something done?
Is it just continually ignored?
Thankfully, there still may be a chance to slip Rika
into the next defense budget as an amendment
and try to get it passed that way.
But for that to really have a chance to happen,
one, people need to know about this,
and two, we need public pressure on lawmakers
to do the right thing, which is also why
anytime we're talking about a story like this,
I'm gonna start doing it today.
For the easiest way to contact your congressperson,
I'm gonna include links in the description.
My dumb ass talking about things,
just one part of the equation.
But that, my friends, is the end of your Monday evening,
Tuesday morning dive into the news.
So we can already tell tomorrow
is gonna be a big wild show.
So I love your faces and I'll see you then.