The Philip DeFranco Show - PDS 8.10 An Apology, Kylie Jenner Cardi B Megan Thee Stallion WAP Backlash Controversy, & More
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And the first thing we're gonna talk about today,
I could not have predicted this before the weekend.
Let's talk about Cardi B, Megan Thee Stallion,
and their new song and music video, WAP.
This has become a whole thing,
actually several whole things.
They released this video Friday.
As of this morning, it has over 59 million views
just on YouTube.
And along with the massive success of this song,
there have also been people angry for a number of reasons.
First up, you had some slamming the song
for its sexual nature.
For instance, you have people like James P. Bradley,
a Republican running for a congressional seat
in California tweeting out,
"'Cardi B and Megan Thee Stallion are what happens
when children are raised without God
and without a strong father figure.
Their new song, The WAP, which I heard accidentally,
made me want to pour holy water in my ears
and I feel sorry for future girls
if this is their role model."
Deanna Lorraine, another Republican
and former congressional candidate from California
making similar remarks, saying the women set the entire female gender back by 100 years
With their disgusting and vile song even pointing to explicit lyrics calling for the song to be banned
You know these two weren't alone
You had other politicians making similar remarks about the song being degrading and encouraging promiscuity
But we also saw a number of those comments met with backlash of their own for several reasons though in general many pointed to double
standards in the music industry since men often
sexualize women
without the same level of criticism.
Others saying that the song is actually empowering
and that women shouldn't be shamed for talking about
or enjoying sex.
As far as where I personally land
regarding this first aspect of the story,
I personally land on the support of these women
with this issue.
If you wanna wear 17 hoodies
and not show a single curve or an ankle,
power to you, it's your body.
And also on the other side of this,
if you wanna boost and prop and shine and shake and do
whatever the hell with your body,
because it's your own, power to you.
And as far as people offended by the language,
just horrified at the naughty, naughty words coming out of
these young ladies mouths. To me, when I,
when I listened to this, I watch the music video.
I see the inclusion of Frank Skeet. To me,
it feels like they flipped what was once exploitive and
turned it into empowerment. And this last part, it's not just towards women.
Whoever you are, you should treat yourself
like you're the main character of your story.
If you're not hurting anybody else and what you're doing,
it makes you feel strong and powerful and whatever the hell,
it's a good thing.
Own it, rock it, do it, whatever.
We only got this one life.
Don't let other people's standards
of what they think is appropriate or okay dictate your life.
But like I said, that was only one aspect of the story.
You actually saw a large number of people frustrated
that Kylie Jenner made an appearance in the video,
with many feeling like she shouldn't have shown up at all,
or she was just given too much screen time
in comparison to other people who showed up.
With there even being a Change.org petition
to have Kylie's cameo cut from the video
that now has over 65,000 signatures.
Among the reasons you had people frustrated
that you had one user writing,
Normani did all this and Kylie walked down the hall
and opened a door.
If that's not a perfect visual indication
of black women having to do the most
and white women do the bare minimum work to get somewhere,
I don't know what is.'"
And there we actually saw Cardi B respond
in a series of now deleted tweets saying,
"'Normani is one of the best female artists
that dances like she dances her fucking ass off.
Why would she open a door?
Please tell me how that would make sense.'"
With her also adding that not everything is about race
and noting that there are issues like that in the world,
which she speaks on.
Right, so there was that.
And then the third reason some people were angry
actually involved Tiger King's Carole Baskin,
a name I cannot see without hearing
that TikTok song in my head.
But yeah, you had Carole taking aim at Cardi and Megan
because of the use of tigers in the video.
Saying to make this video,
they most likely had to deal with what she called
big cat pimps, who she said makes a living
from beating shocking and starving cats
to make them stand on cue
in front of a green screen in a studio.
Also adding the worst part is that it glamorizes the idea
of rich people having tigers as pets,
which if you didn't know is actually a thing,
there are more captive tigers in the United States
than there are in the wild globally.
And as far as why Baskin has an issue
with rich people buying tigers,
after tigers are too old for pay-to-play sessions
by people like Joe Exotic and others,
they become a liability instead of an asset.
And noting that the cats either die
or end up dumped in sanctuaries,
or worse yet, breeding mills.
Yeah, ultimately that's a story, a big release,
a lot of different people angry for a number of reasons.
And of course, now I pass the question off to you.
What are your thoughts on any of these three angles
in regards to this story?
And then let's talk about this TikTok story
that has now become so much bigger than a TikTok story.
So a lot has happened
since last Thursday's Philip DeFranco show,
with the most notable being that at the end of last week,
President Trump issued two executive orders
that in 45 days would ban Americans and American companies
from doing business not only with ByteDance,
but also Tencent.
ByteDance, of course, a company that owns TikTok,
and Tencent is a massive company that,
among other things, owns WeChat,
and also has major stakes in a ton of video game companies.
Let's hit TikTok first.
The Trump administration, of course,
announced that they were looking at ways
to either ban the app or force its sale.
And you know, in Trump's executive order,
it says that TikTok automatically captures
so much information from its users.
And going on to allege that this data collection
threatens to allow the Chinese Communist Party
access to Americans' personal and proprietary information.
Adding, potentially allowing China to track the locations
of federal employees and contractors,
build dossiers of personal information for blackmail,
and conduct corporate espionage.
Going on to allege that the app is used by China
to censor topics that are sensitive to the Communist Party,
things like Hong Kong and the Uyghurs.
Though we've also seen TikTok
actively denying censorship claims.
And with this story, like we discussed last time,
there were a number of people saying,
hey, the president can't just ban an app.
But effectively, Trump is doing that,
though in a roundabout way, right?
If no American or American entity can do business
with TikTok in any capacity, that effectively bans it.
For example, right now, it's not fully clear if it will,
but this order could try to force Apple and Google
to pull TikTok from their app stores.
The ByteDance gets put in the situation
if they don't choose to sell TikTok,
they risk losing the United States,
which is their largest market.
So we have the situation where the company needs to sell
by September 20th, like we talked about last time,
Microsoft has said that they are in talks,
but it turns out that Microsoft
might actually have some competition
because we have reports coming out over the weekend
saying that Twitter is also in talks to buy TikTok.
Though there has been argued that Twitter
would likely need help in buying the video app since TikTok is worth upwards
of what Twitter is worth. Which also brings us to a major point of contention. How much is TikTok
actually worth? I mean the estimates on valuation from experts and analysts, they're all over the
place. In just one fortune article for example, you had people giving out numbers ranging from
20 billion to 50 billion. So there's all that that TikTok news, which is big enough on its own,
but then of course you have Tencent
being thrown into the mix.
As mentioned, they're the company that owns WeChat,
which is a massive messaging, social media,
mobile and pay service.
Worldwide, it is about a billion users,
although most are Chinese nationals and their families.
And in the executive order,
along with making similar claims like that of TikTok,
it claims that WeChat allows the Chinese Communist Party
a mechanism for keeping tabs on Chinese citizens.
And in addition to WeChat,
one of the reasons you had so many people freaked out
was the implication that this might have
on other companies that Tencent owns.
I mean, they own a lot of major gaming companies,
including Riot Games and Grinding Gear Games.
They also have significant stakes in other companies
like Epic Games, Activision Blizzard,
even other platforms like Reddit, Spotify, and Discord.
And so you had a lot of people,
including those who were like,
"'I don't give a damn about TikTok.'
Going, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
what does this do to me though?"
And I'm here today to say,
it appears to be good news for gamers.
We've since now seen a White House official confirming
to the LA Times that the order is meant to block WeChat
and transactions associated with that app,
not Tencent's video game brands.
However, asterisk, we will also likely not know
if that is true until the Secretary of Commerce
lays out the official guidelines.
Because ultimately, that department gets the final say
in what subsidiaries will be banned.
And interestingly enough,
the company most affected in the right now has been Tencent.
This in part because unlike ByteDance,
they are a publicly traded company
and their stock has just gone down since this announcement.
Though TikTok has probably been the most vocal
about this potential ban.
According to NPR, the company is threatening
to sue the Trump administration over this order,
saying that it denies TikTok its due process.
It's possible we could see a lawsuit
as soon as this Tuesday,
with them also releasing a statement pushing back
against the executive order's justification, write it.
The text of the decision makes it plain
that there has been a reliance on unnamed, quote,
"'reports' with no citations,
fears that the app, quote, may be used
for misinformation campaigns
with no substantiation of such fears,
and concerns about the collection of data
that is industry standard for thousands of mobile apps
around the world.
But all of that said,
it's really unclear what happens from here.
Trump issued both orders
under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act.
And that act gives a president a ton of power
to impose economic sanctions when presented with a quote,
"'Unusual and extraordinary threat.'"
One of those threats is the excuse
the administration is going with, national security.
However, there are also limits.
The order can't be used to prohibit personal communication
or the sharing of film and other forms of media.
And so TikTok's lawyers will likely argue those exceptions
protect the company.
But ultimately, that is where we are with the story
as of right now.
There's a line in the sand, every day that goes by,
we get closer to seeing what's actually going to happen.
Though it is important to remember,
there is that elephant in the room, China.
Last week, notably before Trump signed these executive orders, the Chinese is important to remember, there is that elephant in the room, China. Last week, notably before Trump signed
these executive orders, the Chinese Foreign Affairs Ministry
said if the US goes this way, then any country
can take similar measures against any US company.
The US must not open Pandora's box
or it will suffer the consequences.
But ultimately, that is where we are with this story
and it will be very interesting to see what happens.
You know, will we see the Trump administration
continue down this road?
Will they back up?
Will they escalate?
Also, will we see a TikTok sale to Microsoft,
to Twitter, maybe a third party?
And also, will we see other companies get involved?
Obviously this started with ByteDance, now Tencent.
Will there be another company?
Or maybe even flip it around.
Will we see an American company
or American companies hit in some way?
And then let's talk about some updates
regarding North Paulding High School,
which is that school in Georgia
that we talked about last week.
Now, if you haven't seen, after I posted Thursday's video,
I actually went to Twitter to apologize.
If you missed that statement,
I'd like to just read it to you now.
So I would like to completely apologize
for a comment that I made on last Thursday's show
where I was attacking the leadership in Georgia
and a particular school district
over the handling of their schools in this pandemic.
I jokingly said that the crowded hallways
where no one was wearing a mask,
they were obviously not dangerous
because as we all know,
coronavirus gives you a five minute headstart.
And it's now been brought to my attention
that's completely wrong to say
because the coronavirus actually gives you
a 10 Mississippi headstart
before trying to spread in situations
where you have school district leadership
that don't give a fuck about their students.
So they create and allow situations
that have unmasked crowding.
Side note, to the superintendent
of the Paulding County School District, Brian O'Tott,
you can go screw yourself.
Though, I guess kind of like your view on mask wearing
in your schools, while recommended at the end of the day,
it is your personal choice.
Right, so if you're playing catch up,
where we last left off, there was this viral photo
of the hallways of that school where it was super crowded.
You barely saw anyone with a mask.
You had students being told
that they would face disciplinary action
if they chose not to go to school.
Two students had also been suspended
for sharing photos of the crowded hallways.
And we'll actually start there for updates
because those suspensions caught a lot of attention,
prompted outrage.
One of the students, Hannah Waters,
actually spoke to CNN about this incident
as far as why she took the photo she said.
I took it out of mostly concern and nervousness
after seeing the first place of school.
I'd like to say that this is some good and necessary trouble
so I don't regret this because it's, it needed to be said.
She also tweeted on Friday saying that the school called her
and reversed her suspension
with the Paulding County Board of Education later
tweeting out a statement confirming
that both suspensions had been lifted.
But that is also not where the updates
regarding this school end.
As it turns out, so far, nine people at the school
have now tested positive for the coronavirus,
with the Atlanta Journal-Constitution saying
that it was six students, three staff members.
Also yesterday, we saw Superintendent Brian O'Todd
writing in a letter that as a result of these cases,
along with the possibility that number could increase
if there are currently pending tests that prove positive,
we have consulted with the Department of Public Health and are temporarily switching the instructional model
to digital learning. Right, so today and tomorrow we'll definitely not have in-person instruction,
so students will be learning remotely. And reportedly during these days, the school will
be deep cleaned, and on Tuesday night, students will learn if in-person instruction will or will
not continue. With Brian's letter also continuing, please know that according to guidelines established
by the school district, any students and staff
who are confirmed cases of COVID-19,
along with any identified close contacts,
must quarantine for at least 14 days
and cannot return to school until they have completed
all the requirements of the DPH's guidance
for persons infected with COVID-19.
Right, so currently it is not clear
how many students are being required
to do this 14 day quarantine.
Because as one woman with two nephews
who were among the school's positive COVID-19 cases
told the AJC, they sat in class all day with no masks
and no social distancing.
And I have no idea how many kids
they came into contact with.
And adding that they did not grasp the gravity
of this virus, that they were not encouraged to wear masks.
With that, I just go back and I look at that viral photo
and I go, what do they consider close contacts?
If this is how they had students navigating the hallways,
who was not in close contact?
And overall, this just feels like another example
of what we all learn in our lives.
I feel like Gen Z has learned at a faster rate.
Just because people are in positions of power
does not mean that they are necessarily qualified
or deserving of that power.
And once again, understand,
I say this as someone that I want schools to open.
The numbers need to make sense, right?
Like what is the positivity rate
and efforts need to be made?
How do you implement social distancing?
And of course the most basic thing,
just have people wear masks.
It is the easiest thing you can do.
And I look at the failures here by the people in power.
And I wonder if the things that they say,
if they're trying to BS the public or also BS themselves.
And then let's talk about the massive news
and updates coming out of Beirut
and then even Lebanon as a whole.
So if you haven't seen our previous coverage on this,
I'll link to it down below.
I can't even really say anything here
out of fear that the video will be suppressed.
But one thing that we did talk about that I can mention
is that this comes at a time when Lebanon
is already in the midst of what has been described
as the worst economic crisis
that the country has seen in decades.
And with everything that's going on,
many Lebanese people see this as the result
of the years of government corruption and mismanagement
by the country's ruling elite.
So what we ended up seeing is in Beirut, anger boiling over
with thousands of protesters taking to the streets of Beirut
to demand the government step down.
Tons and tons of protesters gathering
in downtown Beirut on Saturday.
And to oversimplify what we detail on roguerocket.com,
we saw some confrontations between protesters
and government forces, escalations.
We saw the protests continuing into Sunday.
Also very notable is on Sunday,
while all of this was going on,
you had international leaders meeting in a virtual summit
where they pledged $298 million to help Lebanon.
And according to reports,
while French president Emmanuel Macron's office said
that this aid was unconditional
and would be given out regardless of political
or institutional reforms,
they also said that countries had made other pledges
for longer term support
that would depend on government reforms.
And so with the pressure from the protesters in the streets,
who we also saw continuing their demonstrations today,
as well as the pressure from world leaders,
you had eyes on Lebanon with many people wondering
what was going to happen with the Lebanese government.
And there, already, we're starting to see some movement.
According to reports, over the weekend,
nine members of parliament
and two high ranking cabinet ministers resigned.
Then, this morning, we saw the country's justice minister
announce her resignation amid reports
that other ministers had said
that they had planned to step down.
And then, literally, as I was recording this segment,
Lebanon's prime minister announced
in a televised statement that he was resigning,
saying this tragedy was caused by endemic corruption and that he was taking a step back.
This so he could stand with the people
and fight the battle for change alongside them.
Also adding that the ruling class quote,
"'Should have been ashamed of themselves
"'because their corruption is what has led to this disaster
"'that had been hidden for seven years.'"
And while that is exactly what protesters wanted,
some experts have also warned that this move
will create more political instability.
With a political scientist
at Lebanese American University in Beirut
telling the Wall Street Journal,
Not only do we have an absence of government and a political vacuum,
but we're going to have a severe problem with the function of the state of Lebanon.
We are heading toward the unknown. And you know as far as what happens next, it is very unclear. According to reports,
the cabinet will now become a caretaker government until a new one is formed.
But even then, because the corruption is so deep rooted,
it is unclear how much a new government would change
without substantial reforms.
Right, and as the Guardian explains,
the fact that there is still this caretaker government
will allow the ministers who resigned
to form the backbone of a new administration.
Those concerns are especially valid
because we've seen this happen before,
even in the last year.
Right, the most recent prime minister and his cabinet
took office just back in January,
which happened after a similar wave of massive protests against corruption prompted the former prime minister and his cabinet took office just back in January, which happened after a similar wave
of massive protests against corruption
prompted the former prime minister to step down
and continue to serve in a similar caretaker role.
But clearly, based off of what we're seeing,
it appears that little has changed.
And so as far as what happens from here,
we have to wait and see.
And that is where I'm going to end today's show.
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