The Philip DeFranco Show - PDS 8.21 Why People Are Freaking Out About Spider-Man, IG Hoax, Amazon Rainforest Fire Blame & More

Starting point is 00:00:00 Sup you beautiful bastards, hope you're having a fantastic Wednesday. Welcome back to the Philip DeFranco Show and let's just jump into it. And the first thing we're going to talk about today is easily the most important story from the past 24 hours. I say that both sarcastically, although the nerd part of my brain is like, no, but for real though. Reportedly, Spider-Man will be leaving the Marvel Cinematic Universe and is now fully in the hands of Sony. And this reportedly because the two powerhouses that are Disney and Sony could not strike a deal on their partnership for the franchise. I don't feel so good. Now as far as how did all of this happen, it actually goes way back to the 80s. Way back in the 80s, Marvel sold the film rights to their beloved Spider-Man and that was because back then superhero movies really weren't the box office winners that

Starting point is 00:00:35 they are today. And those rights bounced around for a while until Sony snatched them up in 1999 and this allowed them to start Tobey Maguire's trilogy back in 2002 which arguably changed the game for superhero movies and their popularity. They then made the Andrew Garfield reboot in 2012, and then in 2015, they reached a unique agreement with Marvel Studios that would allow them to share the character. And how this worked was that Sony fully financed the films, while Marvel served as more of a creative producer. And in this deal, Marvel got the merchandising rights and 5% of first dollar gross, which is 5% of box office revenue on the first day of release. With Sony then getting to cash in on the rest of the film's profit. But the big thing here is that was on Spider-Man movies,

Starting point is 00:01:08 and so Marvel also got the rights to integrate the character into the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Which is how we got Tom Holland's Spider-Man to debut in Captain America Civil War in 2016. As well as his appearances in other Avengers movies and his standalone films like Homecoming and Far From Home. But according to a Deadline report yesterday, Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige

Starting point is 00:01:24 will now be out of the Spider-Man pictures. Which was of course shocking, almost as shocking as me finding out that I've been pronouncing that guy's last name wrong the entire time. And that's reportedly because Disney, which owns Marvel, was looking to change the terms of their deal with Sony. Apparently they were looking to strike up a 50-50 deal. Alright, so essentially the report was Disney was like,

Starting point is 00:01:40 we love the deal, but what if we, and let me just throw this out there, on our five, we just added a zero to the end of it. Small change, not a big deal, right? And for that small change, the companies would equally split the financing and profits for the Spider-Man movies. But Sony refused, likely because they were like,

Starting point is 00:01:53 we know how much the movies cost and how much they make. That's public information. Though at the same time, seemingly disregarding that the MCU and Disney also kind of revitalized the brand. Right, no offense, the Andrew Garfield versions just didn't, weren't as successful. That's the nicest way I can put it. Right, and so reportedly the two didn't reach an agreement,

Starting point is 00:02:09 and since Sony is the owner of Spider-Man and was just lending his use to Marvel, Spidey got the boot from the MCU. Lost the kid. And following this news, much of the reaction was, fuck Sony. Right, you had people tweeting out, boycott Sony, save Spidey.

Starting point is 00:02:22 Also tweets like, I think it's cool that Sony is carrying on its tradition of completely fucking up Spider-Man 3. People saying Tom Holland and Spider-Man deserve better than Sony. You also had actors in the actual superhero movies tweeting about this. Jeremy Renner, who of course plays Hawkeye, posting to Instagram, Hey Sony Pictures, we want Spider-Man back to Stan Lee and Marvel, please. Thank you, congrats, Spider-Man rocks. Ryan Reynolds also acknowledging the situation.

Starting point is 00:02:43 Someone asked him if we could get a Deadpool movie with Spider-Man, he said, "'You can, but you can only see it in my heart.'" Which is a very Ryan Reynolds response. But also with all of this, we saw Sony release a statement about their split with Marvel and Disney on Twitter saying, "'Much of today's news about Spider-Man "'has mischaracterized recent discussions

Starting point is 00:02:58 "'about Kevin Feige's involvement in the franchise. "'We are disappointed but respect Disney's decision "'not to have him continue as a lead producer "'of our next live-action Spider-Man film We hope this might change in the future But understand that the many new responsibilities that Disney has given him including all their newly added Marvel properties not allow time for him to work On IP they do not own Kevin is terrific and we are grateful for his help and guidance and appreciate the path He has helped put us on which we will continue now as far as the deal that Disney pitched Sony many are not surprised that it

Starting point is 00:03:24 Didn't work. With Jeff Bach, a senior box office analyst at Exhibitor Relations telling CNBC, Sony's playing a little hardball right now and they have every right to do so, considering the deal Disney offered is a joke. Maybe if we were discussing the rights for Howard the Duck, 50-50 would be in play, but not for the web slinger.

Starting point is 00:03:38 Now as far as what happens next, it's gonna be interesting to see, you know, did this report just come out or is this part of the negotiation? Right, is this a to be continued or the end of the road? Because honestly, a lot of this just looks bad for everyone. I mean, you could argue that Sony needs Spider-Man more than Disney does.

Starting point is 00:03:52 "'Far From Home' was the highest grossing movie Sony has ever made and was the first of the franchise to earn over $1 billion at the box office." And so yes, they own the rights to Spider-Man. We're seeing reports that they still intend on making Spider-Man movies with Tom Holland. Tom Holland is reportedly signed on for two more, but reportedly they wouldn't be able to include

Starting point is 00:04:07 any of the MCU elements in them, which feels almost impossible because they've kind of set up Spider-Man as the second coming of Tony Stark, which also creates a weird situation for Disney and Marvel since there has been such a focus on Spider-Man. Now, as far as where this is going to go, I have no idea. I do think that the worst case scenario

Starting point is 00:04:23 is if they decide to reboot again, we lose Tom Holland, right, and maybe get fed another origin story. Although I won't completely shit on Sony here. They are, of course, a studio that gave us Spider- Into the Spider-Verse. That is arguably my favorite Spider-Man movie, and honestly, one of my top 10 movies of all time.

Starting point is 00:04:38 But this is also bigger than one movie, and it's gonna be interesting to see what happens. And of course, as always, I'd love to know your thoughts on this. Then in celebrities and politicians are stupid, and here's gonna be interesting to see what happens. And of course, as always, I'd love to know your thoughts on this. Then in celebrities and politicians are stupid, and here's an example news. We had the likes of Judd Apatow and Julia Roberts, and even, oh, this makes you feel good,

Starting point is 00:04:53 Rick Perry, of course, former Texas governor and current US Secretary of Energy, sharing this copy paste note hoax, which was debunked years ago, but it of course has once again come around to make fools of people because much like life Stupid always finds a way. Yeah, they shared in part this note reading Do not forget tomorrow starts the new Instagram rule where they can use your photos. Don't forget deadline today

Starting point is 00:05:16 It can be used in court cases and litigation against you everything you've ever posted becomes public from today Even messages that have been deleted or the photos not allowed I do not give Instagram or any entities associated with instagram permission to use my pictures information messages or posts both past and future with this statement i give notice to instagram that it is strictly forbid that's this isn't how things work as numerous reports past and now present again this whole situation has been debunked as it's been noted there there are parts in this note that don't even make sense. And that's not even including that posting a screenshot

Starting point is 00:05:48 of a note app isn't how you opt out of something. But I share this story in part, so one, you question where you're getting information. And two, it is a prime example, a kind of harmless example of how fast a lie and a hoax can spread. And just because you see a blue check mark, whether they pee from the entertainment industry or our governments,

Starting point is 00:06:06 you should always be a little bit skeptical. Because in this fast-paced, hyper-sharing world that we're in right now, it is very easy for us to be part of any particular problem. And I don't believe that any of us will ever have a perfect record, but as long as we try to remember this, we try to be hyper-diligent about it,

Starting point is 00:06:20 we can try and limit how much of the problem we are. But yeah, there was that. Then, in a quick update about the Amazon rainforest fires that we covered yesterday, if you have not seen that, I highly recommend you watch yesterday's show, or at least that. I also shared our coverage of the story on my Twitter, where it's also kind of blowing up a little.

Starting point is 00:06:35 It's a very important story, but Jair Bolsonaro, the president of Brazil, he, despite campaigning on opening up the Amazon for resource extraction, which many people have blamed as part of the reason we're seeing heavy Deforestation and these fires despite after taking office rolling back environmental protection ratcheting up mining and clearing out huge sections of the Amazon rainforest despite literally Firing the head of the Brazilian National Institute for space research because he gave Bolsonaro satellite data that showed deforestation in the Amazon increase around

Starting point is 00:07:04 245 percent in July of 2019 compared to that of July of 2018. And just since we talked about this yesterday, that same agency has said that fires have increased by 84% so far this year compared to last year, meaning that fires are burning at their highest rates since the agency started tracking them in 2013. And despite so much more,

Starting point is 00:07:21 rather than taking some sort of ownership, maybe providing a meaningful solution to the situation at hand that more and more people by the minute realize is a huge issue. He, without evidence, claimed that NGOs are setting the fire. Suggesting organizations outside of the country are trying to make him look bad. Saying maybe I'm not affirming it. These NGO people are carrying out some criminal actions to draw attention against me. Against the government of Brazil. Also blaming politicians, saying,

Starting point is 00:07:46 "'Look, there are governors and I don't want to name names who are complicit with what's going on and putting the blame on the federal government. There are states there, which I'm not going to list, in the Northern region.'" Like it would be one thing if he had evidence, but I've never, with Bolsonaro, I don't think I've seen a more transparent human version

Starting point is 00:08:01 of our joke shirt. Why be informed when you can just use your feelings as your fact shirt? Yeah, that's where I'm going to leave this update. I just wanted you to be up to date. And then I know that there's a lot of Trump related news out there right now. I mean, yes, we did have Trump yesterday

Starting point is 00:08:14 while talking about representatives Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib say this. Where has the Democratic Party gone? Where have they gone where they're defending these two people over the state of Israel? And I think any Jewish people that vote for a Democrat, I think it shows either a total lack of knowledge or great disloyalty. Right, and after that we saw a lot of people on social media as well as Jewish organizations

Starting point is 00:08:39 condemning Trump's remarks. Some saying that he's using the anti-Semitic trope that Jewish Americans have dual loyalty to Israel and the United States. And also around this specific issue, we had Trump this morning sharing the words of Wayne Allen Root and thanking him for the words that said about President Trump that Jewish people in Israel love him

Starting point is 00:08:54 like he's the king of Israel. They love him like he's the second coming of God, but American Jews don't know him or like him. But that's not our focus today. There was also, of course, the news that Trump confirmed reports that he was looking into purchasing Greenland from Denmark. Denmark's Prime Minister responded by saying

Starting point is 00:09:06 it wasn't on the market. And then Trump responded on Twitter saying that because of those comments, quote, "'I will be postponing our meeting scheduled in two weeks for another time,' the Prime Minister was able to save a great deal of expense and effort for both the United States and Denmark by being so direct." But that part of our current reality is not the focus

Starting point is 00:09:22 of today, but rather we're gonna be talking about the most significant in terms of actual policy and the most significant in actual net impact, which stems from a new announcement made today. Today, the Trump administration is rolling out a new rule that would allow them to indefinitely detain migrant families found crossing the border illegally. And this new rule would officially end

Starting point is 00:09:37 something called the Flores Agreement, which as we've mentioned before, is the 1997 legal agreement that requires the government to ensure that migrant children are held in safe and sanitary conditions. That settlement was made as part of a federal requires the government to ensure that migrant children are held in safe and sanitary conditions. That settlement was made as part of a federal class action lawsuit that claimed that migrant children held in detention facilities for extended periods of time

Starting point is 00:09:52 suffered emotional and physical harm. In 2015 we saw federal judge Dolly Gee rule that under Flores, migrant children can only be held in border facilities for 20 days before they have to be transferred to a licensed facility. Where they must also be provided with sanitary facilities, medical treatment, and given the ability to contact family members. But because the children had to be transferred to a licensed facility, where they must also be provided with sanitary facilities, medical treatment, and given the ability to contact family members. But because the children had to be moved

Starting point is 00:10:08 to licensed facilities and no states licensed family detention centers, the 2015 ruling also mandated that the 20 day rule applied to parents who arrived at the border with their children. And for about a year now, the Trump administration has been trying to scrap Flores, saying that limiting detentions of families

Starting point is 00:10:21 has caused the recent surge of immigration. And in a White House press release today, the administration argued that the agreement is, quote, "'a loophole that results in most alien families "'being released into the country after 20 days.'" And also arguing, "'Smugglers have used this loophole as a selling point "'for aliens who want to cross the border

Starting point is 00:10:35 "'and be released into the interior of the country, "'exploiting migrant children for profit.'" Under the proposed rule, the administration would be able to hold families until their immigration cases are decided and they are either granted asylum or deported. And as far as the timing, according to reports, administration officials say that the cases

Starting point is 00:10:49 could be resolved in two or three months. But they also noted that because of the massive backlog of immigration cases that are already in the system, many cases could drag on for months or even years, meaning that at minimum, children would be kept in unlicensed detention centers nearly three times longer than they are currently held. Now as far as what happens here,

Starting point is 00:11:04 the administration of course has now announced the rule and they are expected to formally publish it later this week. And once it's published, it will go into effect in 60 days, but it also first has to be approved by Judge Gee, who of course is the same judge who has been overseeing the Flores litigation. But the administration also expects this process

Starting point is 00:11:18 to take longer as immigration advocates have already said that they plan to challenge the new rule in court. With advocates arguing that the Flores Agreement is essential to provide protection for immigrant children, many of whom are seeking asylum from violence and poverty. And also saying that the Trump administration has violated the agreement and harmed migrant children by holding them in facilities with horrible conditions and separating hundreds of them from their parents. With many noting that over the last year, at least seven migrant children have either died in government custody

Starting point is 00:11:41 or right after they were released. Peter Shea, one of the lead attorneys for the Flores case, told reporters, We don't disagree with detaining children when it's necessary. Namely, if they're a flight risk or they're a danger to themselves or others, we agree. It's the unnecessary detention of a child that this settlement sought to end. So these regulations really reflect a flagrant disregard on the part of President Trump and his administration for the safety and the well-being of children in the care of the federal government. But on the other side of this, administration officials say that this new rule will meet the legal standards set forth by Flores

Starting point is 00:12:08 This because the detention facilities will be subject to audits to ensure they comply with licensing standards Also arguing that this rule is not indefinite detention because micro families will eventually have their cases heard Even if it takes years and to that point acting secretary of the Department of Homeland Security Kevin McAleenan said this single ruling has substantially caused and continued to fuel the current family unit crisis and the unprecedented flow of Central American families and minors illegally crossing our border the new rule closes the legal loophole that arose from the reinterpretation of Flores but Shea who we mentioned earlier also said that he expects judge G to reject the administration's new rule but even there if she doesn't approve the rule the Trump administration is expected to appeal her decision. Right, and so according to legal experts, this could drag on for months or even years.

Starting point is 00:12:47 But ultimately, that is where we are with this story, and I do wanna pass the question off to you. What are your thoughts regarding what's happening with the kids in these situations? Any and all thoughts you have, I'd love to see in those comments down below. And that's where I'm going to end today's show. And hey, if you like this video,

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The Philip DeFranco Show - PDS 8.21 Why People Are Freaking Out About Spider-Man, IG Hoax, Amazon Rainforest Fire Blame & More

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