The Philip DeFranco Show - Taylor Swift Has a Bigger Problem Than Bad Reviews
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This Taylor Swift encore backlash actually exposed a much bigger growing problem for her and others.
Republicans just embarrassed themselves in a way I didn't even know it was actually possible while Grill and Jack Smith today,
and now they're trying to lie right through it with help from Charlie Kurt's team.
And why this weird Sarah Huckabee Sanders' welfare ad has her mega-based crying reverse racism at her.
We're talking about all of that and even more on today's brand new Philip DeFranco show you daily dive into the news, starting with this.
Now, today was just another day in the kangaroo court that is the Republican-controlled.
U.S. Senate.
Do you believe in the two fairy?
I do not.
How about the Easter Bunny?
I no longer believe in the Easter Bunny.
Yes.
You make me want to throw up in my mouth.
Javert from Les Mise would look at you with astonishment.
So that, unfortunately, and embarrassingly, is real footage of former Special Counsel Jack Smith
testifying before the Senate Judiciary Committee today, right where he was grilled by Republicans who want him criminally prosecuted.
And of course, all of this connected to Smith being the special prosecutor who charged Trump for his efforts to over his efforts to over
return the 2020 election and his mishandling a classified documents.
But then of course, after Trump assumed power again, his lackeys in Congress, they're
dead set on using their power to go after the man who is just this close to actually
holding the president accountable.
Right, and you've had Republicans long arguing that Smith's investigations were politically
motivated to benefit the Biden administration, which is one, insane to say, because
I think everyone outside of the Trump world realizes how useless Merrick Garland was.
And two, it's just incredibly ironic given that Trump has repeatedly weaponized his
DOJ to go after his perceived political enemies, and he's literally doing the exact same
thing with Smith now. And also as far as specifics, Republicans have accused Smith of lying to Congress
in a closed-door deposition before the House Judiciary Committee last year, with Representative
Jim Jordan asking the DOJ to prosecute him this summer. And at the time, you had a spokesperson
to the Justice Department saying that the agency would investigate all evidence of criminal conduct.
But Smith, he's firmly denied the allegations, and in his opening statement before the committee
this morning, he fiercely defended his investigation and his decision to bring charges against
Trump. I stand by my decisions as special counsel, including my decision to bring charges
against President Trump.
I made those decisions without regard to President Trump's political association,
activities, beliefs, or candidacy in the 2024 presidential election.
Our investigation developed proof beyond a reasonable doubt that President Trump
engaged in serious crimes against our nation.
If asked whether to prosecute a former president today based on the same,
facts, I would do so regardless of whether that president was a Republican or a Democrat.
Rather than accept his defeat in the 2020 presidential election, President Trump engaged in a
criminal scheme to overturn the results and prevent the lawful transfer of power.
After leaving office in January of 2021, President Trump illegally kept classified documents
at his Merala Lago Social Club and repeatedly tried to obstruct justice to conceal his continued
retention of those documents.
And a very big thing here is that Smith also defended his previous statements to Congress
and accused Trump of weaponizing the DOJ to target people involved in the federal investigations
against him.
I stand by my testimony before the House of Representatives and I will not be silenced
by continued threats of prosecution from the president or others.
As I appear before you today, it is my belief that the rule of law faces challenges unlike any we have experienced in our lifetime.
Individuals are threatened with criminal prosecution because they are perceived to have opposed the president.
Since January of 2025, we have witnessed precisely such an effort, including the vilification of the agents, prosecutors, and staff who worked on my team,
simply because of their unwavering dedication to the rule of law.
I myself have been threatened with jail by the president of the United States.
Right, and specifically, the allegations that Smith lied to Congress,
they center around statements that he made regarding his team's access to phone records
at GOP lawmakers in the election probe.
And as a part of that probe, Smith's team obtained toll records of some Republican members of Congress.
Right. And toll records aren't what you would typically picture when you think of phone records.
They show the date, length, and time of phone calls between two parties,
but do not include direct recordings or any information about the actual content of the conversations.
And in his letter to the DOJ accusing Smith of lying to Congress,
Jim Jordan said that Smith had told lawmakers that he just requested simple toll records
and didn't seek a warrant for the content of any text messages.
But Jordan claimed that newly released documents show that Smith had actually obtained the contents of 44 lawmakers' text messages.
But here's the thing, those texts were obtained as part of a completely separate subpoena for presidential records
containing the communications of various Trump advisors and aides.
And so he had the ranking member of the Judiciary Committee accusing Jordan of misrepresenting the questions
that were actually asked, claiming that Smith was answering very specific questions about a subpoena for the
toll records and that Republicans had never even asked him about the presidential records request.
Right, in arguing that Smith answered their specific question about toll records truthfully and had zero
obligation to volunteer information about a totally separate data request that Republicans never asked him about.
And so unsurprisingly, Republicans made the toll records a big part of the hearing and Smith, once again,
defended his actions.
Those records corroborated evidence that we had that the president, President Donald Trump,
and his co-conspirators were seeking to exploit the violence on January 6th in furtherance of their
criminal scheme. They were taking the fact that law enforcement officers had been brutally assaulted
at this institution and using that to seek to delay the proceedings further in violation of the law.
It was an important part of our investigation and it was centrally relevant to the issue of
criminal intent. Also with this, you had Democrat Sheldon White House calling Republicans on their
hypocrisy, noting that Senator Chuck Grassley, who was absolutely tearing into Smith today,
defended Trump's DOJ when they subpoenaed toll records for Democrats while investigating press
leaks in his first administration. When that came out, Chairman Grassley said,
probes into Congress are not unusual. He said, investigations in the members of Congress and
staff are nothing new. And he said, the Justice Department has specific procedures for such
sensitive investigation.
But then beyond all that, this gets us to the thing
that I really, I wanted to talk about
in connection to this story, especially.
Because we got to see this absolutely insane interaction
with Republican Senator Eric Schmidt,
where he tried to concoct some bizarre conspiracy theory
that Smith went to see a hawks game in Atlanta,
but he was actually using the trip
to collude with Fannie Willis, the top prosecutor in the city.
Willis, of course, was also pursuing a separate criminal case
against Trump's attempts to subvert the election in Georgia.
And I need you to just see and or hear
how it went down in the US fucking
King's Senate today. You just have to watch and listen to it because it feels unbelievable.
Did you go to an NBA game between the Golden State Warriors and the Atlanta Hawks on February 3rd,
2024? What city would that be in? Atlanta.
No. Okay. So your testimony today is that you did not go to a Hawks game on February 3rd,
2024. Is that correct? I have no recollection of that. Okay. Is it your testimony that you were not
in Atlanta on February 3rd, 2024? Let me just give you a little context. Yeah.
before Fannie Willis came clean with her affair with the prosecutor. You know the Atlanta
prosecutor that was also trying to get Trump the next day were you in Atlanta?
I do not believe so. What would you say if I had a series of text messages from your team that said
you were in Atlanta at a Warrior Hawks game on February 3rd, 2024, the day after Willis
and Wade announced their affair? I don't think you know that we have this stuff. So I'll
give you a second to process it so you don't, you know, perjure yourself. You just took it down
really quick. If I could look at that again.
Okay.
Mr. Chairman, can we give the witness a copy so he can see what's being read to him?
Well, I think you've already sufficiently.
And so I want to run through.
We'll put it in a file if you can respond.
I think you've already perjured yourself, but did you or your office?
Can we see it?
Can we see it?
Did you or your office seek?
This is my time.
Senator, can you want to use your time to criticize my question.
Go ahead.
With Schmidt, then going on to ask Smith about the toll records.
and adding, you have weaponized the Department of Justice against political enemies to an extent
that has never happened in the history of this country. You will go down as a total dirtbag.
And then after that, you had Democrat Amy Klobuchar asking Schmidt's staff if they can hold up
the poster with the alleged text for more than one second. And once he actually sees it, Smith says
he can now respond to the question about the Hawks. Here you go. I recall going to a University
of Maryland basketball game where Caitlin Clark was playing right around that time.
and the Marshal Service was there with me. You could check if that was the exact date. It was Maryland playing Iowa.
Could it then be that University of Iowa's the Hawkeyes? Could that be it? And maybe before we show this kind of thing?
I know, but if he was at an Iowa game, is that correct? It was because Caitlin Clark was coming to Maryland to play.
I know, but that might be the confusion over the names of the team, but perhaps you should have looked
at it more carefully. Right. And then you and Schmidt going absolutely ballistic in screaming
at Klobuchar for clearly proving him wrong while also then still doubling down.
Who's questioning is this, by the last, Chairman? Are you using your time, Senator? Is this
what this is? No. Are we just, are we just having like an open session here?
I will begin my questions. I just, I'm just, I'm glad you're trying to rehabilitate the witness,
but it's not your time. When you are calling a witness a dirt bag and showing him. I presented him with
text messages about him wanting to meet with people that could have obviously been related to the
prosecution that was coordinated with his office in Atlanta.
Well, I'm going to begin my questions now, but I think that people should have their
facts straight before they accuse someone of being a dirt bag and not get the team wrong.
I stand by that statement.
And not long after that, Klobuchar confirmed that the Iowa Hawkeyes had indeed played
Maryland on the date in question.
But even then, Schmidt still refused to back down.
Or when reporters asked if he still thought Smith had perjured himself after learning the
details of the game, Schmidt responded, we'll find out that's going to be up to a prosecutor
to determine.
saying my job here today was to ask questions and get answers.
And then, while that clip was going viral with everyone just dunking on Schmidt for being a total fucking clown,
you had the absolute chuds on the Charlie Kirk show gassing him up and making it seem like
he actually got this huge gotcha moment instead of totally embarrassing himself.
And Schmidt just played into it.
You caught him out on this NBA game too, by the way, in Atlanta.
I want to make sure we get to everything we're supposed to get to you here, Senator, but it was a great moment.
So good for you on that.
Great job. So got to give you some flowers here, sir. You had text messages from his team
confirming that he was going to a Hawks game and he sat there acting dumbfounded and completely
clueless. It was the only NBA or NCAA men's game going on at that time in Atlanta.
He claimed later that he was in another game. I don't, you know, here's the thing.
My job is to ask the questions. He's already. And if that's what his answer is, then that's
what his answer is. These guys are lying or misleading cucks, though also,
I wouldn't expect anything less from TPUSA, grifters, and chuds.
You blatantly misrepresenting a situation trying to rewrite history,
and you fucking wonder why people are open to Candace Owens' version of events.
Like, poor Charlie having dumb, dumber and dumb as being the ones that carry on the flame.
Also, like, I'm sure the people that work with them already know Schmidt is such a fucking dumb guy.
But imagine having to go back to work after outing yourself as the biggest fucking dumbest idiot on the team in the Senate.
There's even this slow zoom on Senator Katie Britt.
who's just looking on as Schmidt is making a fool of himself.
And I just love it so much.
And so I had to share it there.
But yeah, you know, that whole interaction, it also then ends up totally overshadowing
any actual substance from the hearing.
Though also at the same time, like a lot of Smith's testimony was exactly what you'd expect.
Right, a lot of what we've already seen before when Smith talked to Congress in the past.
But then from that, jumping into a very different news, we should talk about this Taylor Swift encore backlash
and the whole situation because it's bigger than a lot of people realize.
Right.
Because, well, the wave of backlash is a critique of the music itself.
it's also part of this broader, more complicated critique of her billionaire, apolitical, so-called regressive bubble.
That's what you're seeing a lot of people saying, and you have a lot of people saying that it's getting harder and harder for fans to ignore in an age where our political reality is so kind of bleak.
And as far as the specifics, you had Swift releasing a deluxe version of her The Life of a Showgirl album titled The Life of a Showgirl, the Oncourt.
Which, for many, was kind of an ironic title for an album that wasn't received that well upon its original release just under a year ago.
And, I mean, you had some people calling it the worst songwriting of her career.
And the reaction to these four new tracks, for the most part, it was similarly intense and negative.
Pitchfork gave the encore version a brutal 4.0 out of 10 rating.
You saw the Telegraph Review being titled I'm a Swifty and even I think these new songs are terrible.
And then The Guardian described the new work as flashes of humanity and bafflingly vindictive love songs.
And a huge thing is it wasn't just the critics.
One of Swift's biggest fans, the Swiftologist had this to say in his reaction video.
It's so hard to be the Swatologist at a tide like this.
Well, all four of these new songs, Patient Zero, Cleveland, Pink Clouding, and Babylon.
They're being debated and roasted to some extent.
The most controversial award, that definitely goes to Cleveland,
where the song where Swift laughs at her haters on her way to Cleveland.
And you had her singing in the first verse,
she's not as hot as she was, but she was only a four.
And with all of that money, why she dressed like trash.
And then you have the chorus that's basically,
I don't give a fuck about the haters because Travis Kelsey and I are in love,
and he took me to Cleveland.
And so with that, you had a lot of people saying,
one, it feels like an odd choice to focus so much on online trolls
when writing about your happy relationship.
And two, people were noting that she was only engaging
with the very shallow and just mean,
criticisms about her fashion looks and dance moves. And so then that puts a bigger spotlight on her
refusing to meaningfully engage with criticism about her artistry and more importantly, her politics,
which we'll get to more in a minute. Right. And throughout the showgirl original and deluxe
versions, we've seen Swift choosing to focus on feuds, celebrity friends getting canceled, her
haters. And yes, her dreams are sharing a white picket fence with Travis Kelsey. Right. None of that
is evil or anything. But they didn't stop like when she released the album last fall, there being
this weird, coordinated online disinformation campaign trying to align the music with Nazi and right-wing
values. Or you could say what you want about Taylor Swift and Showgirl, but that had nothing to do with
Nazis. But also, you had a lot of legit criticism saying, you know, her music is starting to feel
more and more out of touch, a lacking depth, lacking maturity, right? An increasing number of people
saying, as her celebrity has grown, it doesn't seem like she has grown with it. And you've
had no shortage of people arguing, you know, it's great that Swift has pushed back against
ages, I'm reminding us in her music and by example that you don't need to lose your romantic side or
your lust for life as you get older. But it's also equally important to grow and become a better
version of yourself as you get older. And with all this, for example, you had the Atlantic
review saying, the singer's music once put a clever twist on ideas about aging and adulthood. Now she just
seems to be going backwards. And while, of course, they're going to be plenty of stands that
will be thrilled with whatever she puts out and whatever she does. What you're seeing is a lot of
Swiss audience, like the review says, seems restless to grow up. Which feels like it means a few
different things. Where they want music that feels a little less petty and insular and a little more
grounded and an evolved, wiser perspective. And you know, they want their favorite artist to be a person
that they can look up to, someone who wants to make the world a better place,
which is then where we and them and everyone get into the politics of it all.
Because one of the things you've seen for a number of years is Swift being criticized for being
mostly apolitical.
Though, of course, she did endorse Kamala Harris in 2024, and she did have a brief political
era in 2019, where she got loud about LGBTQ plus rights and women's rights.
Something you might remember if you ever watched her documentary or saw clips from Miss Americana.
And while this particular line of criticism, it's just intensified the last few years as her
platforms reached unprecedented heights and she officially became a billionaire in 2023.
So now you're seeing people tie their feelings about the new music to this narrative about Swift embracing the billionaire lifestyle and failing to use her platform in a meaningful way.
And so you've got people on Twitter making jokes like Taylor Swift these last few years feels like when the Capitol got PETA, as well as the life of a showgirl felt like when Trump beat Hillary.
The encore felt like when he beat Kamala.
Right. So with all this, you've got people saying her silence or her received silence on Trump, Palestine, and more.
It feels definitely loud right now because of what's happening with her peers.
Because the timing of all this is massively important.
I mean, it wasn't too long ago that we were talking about Swift's best friend, Ed Shear and him.
a lot and obviously not in a complimentary way.
Right, because he recently chose his stadium tour
and his Netanyahu loving buddy Robert Kraft
over being a decent person and standing with Macklemore,
his other openers, and the Palestinian people.
Because apparently saying free Palestine
and children shouldn't be genocided was a road too far for some people.
And then when Ed Shearren came back out,
you had a lot of people saying he was playing victim,
he was crying on stage about it.
And so then with all that, you've got a lot of people
making comparisons because Shearin, like Swift,
has done a lot to remain a political recently.
And while both of them, you know,
they're so big that even if they lose fans,
they have so many.
many, it does seem like a number of music fans, they're just not having it anymore.
And I've seen an increasing number of people saying the approach that these singers and others are
making, it feels like a relic of the early 2010s Obama optimism era.
The thinking that you can just make your bag, you don't have to put yourself out there,
things will figure it out and it'll work itself out.
But then where it appears like a lot of people are being more and more drawn to are artists
who seem in touch and use their voices for good.
You've got people like 23-year-old Olivia Rodrigo, for example, launching an annual all-women
musical festival that benefits organizations supporting reproductive rights, maternal health,
women's safety. Also, you've got more and more artists, not just Macklemore, saying free Palestine,
on socials and on stage. It's all of this, you know, it seems like an inflection point for Swift,
and we're going to have to see where it goes from here, what reactions, are there any movements,
are there any changes? You know, with all this, I do have to pass the question off to you. What are your
thoughts, opinions, and reactions here? Especially if you are a Swifty or you're someone that you
generally fuck with Taylor Swift or her music. And well, of course, you know, I want to know
everyone's take on this. As far as her career and where things go, like, it's her fans' opinions
that are going to be the ones that matter.
And then there's even more we've got to dive into in just a minute,
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But then diving right back into the news, we've got to talk about how a woman is just hours away from being put to death by the state, and you've got a lot of people desperately trying to save her.
So the woman in question is Krista Pike, and it's not one of those wrongful conviction cases, right?
She really did commit murder.
But also, sort of like Lindsay Clancy, she claims that because of her untreated mental illness at the time, she should be spared the death penalty.
And then also, like Lindsay Clancy, this case is very much dividing people.
And so we should dive into it, starting with a crime.
And so it happened back in 1995 at the University of Tennessee, though Pike was not actually a student there.
Instead, you had her attending the Knoxville Job Corps Center, a program for low-income adults to get career and education training.
Well, there, she met her boyfriend to Darrell Schip, but then also at some point she became convinced that another girl, Colleen Slemmer, was trying to steal ship from her.
And so then what she did is that Pike and ship lured Slimmer into the woods on the pretense that they'd be smoking some weed, and then they tortured and murdered her.
And the way it was described is just brutal.
They used a meat cleaver and a box cutter and then finished her off with a chunk of asphalt.
With ship, then also reportedly carving a pentagram into her body, which then turned this already shocking story into a satanic panic thing.
A pentagram, a five-pointed star, a symbol of Satan, was carved into her chest.
Rituals and symbols are part of the worship. So are sacrifices, often animals, rarely humans.
Police say satanic activity is not widespread in this area, but it does occur. When it does, it's usually done in secret.
They get more drawn into it, and there is real power in this stuff.
the devil has power to give people things,
but they eventually begin to lose control of themselves.
Also, you had Pike later bragging to another student
that she had kept a piece of slimmer skull as a souvenir,
and so a local paper took that and ran with it, writing.
Satan has believed the body has to be whole for the soul to escape, said one source.
By keeping this, they had the soul captive.
And then you had the report going on to add that the Knoxville Police Chief,
Phil Keith, said a preliminary investigation
has revealed eight to 12 students at the center
have some level of involvement in the occult,
including satanic symbols in their rooms.
Adding others involved in the probes,
estimate the number of people involved in the occult
at the job core is as high as 25 to 50.
And doubting police don't know if there have been
other slings in the area associated with satanic worship.
Right, and so all of that, it adds to the idea
of what the atmosphere was at the time
that these murderers were sentenced.
While you had ship actually getting off
with a life sentence because he was only 17 years old,
Pike, who was 18, she got the death penalty.
It is therefore ordered that you shall be put to death
by death by left the people
and the mother prescribed by law.
Let she shall be transferred to custody for the woman.
Please.
Sorry, just not my mom.
Please hold me.
All of this, it makes for a very unique case
for a number of reasons, including not only that was she young,
but she was a woman.
I mean, just looking at the data,
less than 2% of death row cases over the past half century
have actually been women.
And one consequence of that was that Pike was totally isolated.
For all the three years, she was the only woman
on death row in Tennessee, and even during those three years,
she wasn't allowed physical contact with the other woman.
And apart from that, actually,
only one other exemption came in 2001 when there was a fire and Pike had to be
evacuated to another part of the prison with two other women. And actually at that
point, the other women began fighting and Pike used a shoelace to choke one of them out. And so
then you had that incident adding an attempted first degree murder conviction to a record,
not that I guess it really mattered. But Pike and her lawyers, they say that since being
medicated and attending therapy, she's never been disciplined for violence and she's
expressed remorse for what she did to slimmer. And then in 2024, after 28 years of
solitary confinement, she was allowed to socialize with other inmates and some of them have
said that she's completely different now. But with all that said,
As of tomorrow, at 10 a.m., the now 50-year-old Pike is scheduled to be given a lethal injection in Tennessee,
which is actually the first execution of a woman in 200 years there.
And among the people who are looking forward to this, saying this gives us justice is the victim's mother,
who says she's been waiting decades for this moment.
Or because in her view, the media, they've been too focused on Pike and not the actual victim.
Or where they're saying Slamer, her daughter was a vibrant, generous girl who volunteered for the Special Olympics,
loved bowling and roller skating, and was pursuing a career and computer.
And so she argues that if anyone thinks the execution of Pike is unfair, well, so is her
daughter being ripped away from her, which is why she's driving nearly nine hours from Florida
to Nashville just to watch Pike's execution. And in hand, she has a photo of her daughter.
I will sit there with her picture in my hand and as she gets hooked up to a needle to go to
sleep, she can look at the picture. But then with all this, you have Pike's attorney arguing that,
well, yes, what Pike did was awful. And yes, she takes responsibility for it. And yes,
nothing can justify her actions. She still shouldn't be executed. Right, arguing for one thing,
She was just 18 years old, which on its own arguably does not mean much, but with that, they said that she had an extremely traumatic past as well.
And with the attorneys rolling out evidence that her mother drank heavily during pregnancy, which could have contributed to her bipolar disorder.
Then between the ages of two and five, Pike says that she was sexually abused by her mother's boyfriend and then she was raped by a neighbor at age 11 and then raped again by another stranger at age 17.
And so then years later, a psychologist who was asked by Pike's attorney to review the case concluded that her trauma is almost impossible to grasp because it is so severe.
And you had her lawyers arguing that she only intended to fight slimmer, but because of her mental illness,
she was unable to put the brakes on and ended up killing her in a frenzied attack.
And I guess during her trial, Pike's former court-appointed lawyers, they didn't tell the jury about her past
or even mention her age as a consideration.
Which ends up actually being a common story.
Researchers have found that 96% of women on death row, they were either raped, sexually abused as children,
or subjected to domestic violence prior to their arrest.
And then with that, what experts saying, we found that prosecutors were minimizing those experiences or dismissing them outright.
But then also, it's not just about the trial, right?
it's also about the manner of execution as well.
Right, because you had advocates of sexual trauma survivors
telling the courts they believe the likelihood Pike will,
quote, involuntarily relive her rapes
during her execution is extremely high.
Saying quote, she will likely believe
she is being raped to death.
So then at the very least,
you have her lawyers requesting an all female lethal injection team,
though she'd prefer hanging or better yet,
not to be executed at all.
With Pike writing, I was a mentally ill 18 year old kid.
It took me numerous years to even realize the gravity
of what I'd done.
Even more to accept how many lives I affected,
I took the life of someone's
child, sister, friend, saying it sickens me now to think I had the ability to commit such a crime.
With Pike then also telling the Times of London, she feels a kinship with Lindsay Clancy, explaining,
we are both females who got into trouble because of uniquely female issues.
So adding one thing is different.
Times have changed a lot on awareness of women's issues since I was put on trial.
And doubting, I am pleased she received a mis-trial and is getting the help she needs,
saying there are so many women who don't get the help they need, me and others.
And likewise, you had her attorneys arguing,
Krista was broken, not evil.
She was broken by a mental health system, juvenile system, and a criminal justice system
that ignored, misdiagnosed, and mistreated her at every turn.
And then with this, you're the executive director of the Death Penalty Information Center telling local media.
I think that if Krista was tried today, her jury would not sentence her to death.
But then with all that, the Tennessee Supreme Court, they declined to stop her execution.
And Republican Governor Bill Lee, he refused to grant her clemency yesterday.
So now, really, her last chance is the U.S. Supreme Court, but that clock is ticking down.
And I think it's doubtful whether the conservative majority would be sympathetic here anyway.
And Suea Pike now writing a letter saying, whether my clemency is granted or not, I am at peace,
saying I am not afraid to die.
I'm only nervous about the process.
And all in all, I will say at the very least,
this situation,
it feels like something we are going to continue to see more of.
With a massive divide and debate we've seen around Lindsay Clancy,
the fact that there was a mistrial in that case,
even though it was only because of one juror,
I think a lot of people have gone,
oh, there's an opportunity here.
Or whether they genuinely believe in that defense and argument,
that is a completely other thing to,
it has worked, so why not try it again?
But then for today's show,
we should jump from that to another controversial topic,
though a very different one,
and that is AI.
And a lot of it centers around the idea
that the rest of the world
wants to pump the brakes,
but Trump, he wants to bring forward
AI as a so-called golden age.
And actually with all this,
this morning it unveiled America.gov,
which is a new AI powered site
that's meant to serve as a one-stop shop
for all government resources.
And so if you ask questions about things
like veterans' resources
or how to change your address
with the postal service,
it'll give you instruction
similar to how chat GPT would.
Of course, with people being people
and the internet being what the internet is,
people are already going into admitting
that the election wasn't stolen
and seeing if it'll dodge questions about the Epstein files.
Right, interestingly, reports say that it was made
in partnership with both Gemini and GROC.
You know, given the climate around AI right now,
it's not surprising to see that the site puts
a lot of emphasis on privacy and safety.
But also, when Trump tried to touch on it himself,
he really didn't do it with a ton of confidence.
And everything stays totally private.
Cannot, in theory, be hacked into.
And when they figure a way to do that, we'll end it.
Because they always figure away, right?
They always figure.
You know, when you have 197 IQs looking,
to do things.
They can you take it, but we can also counteract them if anything does happen.
We think it might not happen, actually.
And then also, one of the big things that we're seeing is that Trump's been spending a lot of
time on his effort to rebrand artificial intelligence as super intelligence, calling it
SI, which feels a little bit crazy.
When he was at the UN, he said, you know, artificial intelligence.
It makes it seem fake, but it's not fake.
It's amazing.
And myself and Alex Perlman, while we've been on the crashing out tour, we were like,
why don't you just call it amazing intelligence?
You don't even have to change it to SI.
It would still be AI.
And also, the name is the least concerning part about it.
Or the conversation around AI, it's not all one thing.
We've seen and heard amazing stories about it being used in the healthcare industry.
Or with it among other things, being used to help identify cancer and screenings that maybe a doctor might have missed.
But no, Trump, he says, you know, it's the name.
Artificial seems too sinister and so super, it just sounds nicer.
Because when you say artificial intelligence, it's artificial.
This is extreme intelligence.
It's superior intelligence.
It's supreme also intelligence.
But the word super is the best word of all.
And then, of course, he also just really hammered
how important it is to win the AI race.
Whoever wins super intelligence wins.
You're going to have a winner and a loser.
And you're probably not going to have a second place.
You're going to have a winner or you're going to have a loser.
We're leading now over China and everyone else.
And I want to keep it that way.
We do not surrender.
two fears about what technologies will do to us.
And while you had Trump saying, you know,
we want these tools and the people running them
to behave honestly, he also really didn't dive into that
and just said that the DOJ and FBI
would handle it if something goes wrong.
Right, notably, he delivered those remarks
as he's also hosting a lunch with a slew of tech leaders,
including the CEOs of Meta, Invita, Pallenteer,
Google, Anthropic, and more.
And you've got many wondering, you know,
how much they're gonna discuss issues within the industry.
Because like we talked about yesterday,
these tech leaders themselves
are the ones that have been sounding the alarm the most,
make many want government intervention
and regulation to keep this tech in check.
Seemingly, agents are going rogue,
even sites belonging to the U.S. government are being impacted,
and this tech, it's growing faster than our ability to keep it safe.
And so it's going to be very important to keep an eye on, you know,
as pressure increases on these companies to keep things pushing forward,
does the government add guardrails?
And as far as what we have, you had a Trump giving us the seating char,
which puts him between Elon Musk and Nvidia's Jensen Wong,
while he's across from Mike Johnson and J.D. Vance.
And you've seen a lot of people, you know, trying to read into all this,
with, for example, one Bloomberg reporter claiming that this could end up being
one of the most pivotal meetings in human history,
if AI worriers are correct.
And adding that this chart appears to give an advantage
to AI accelerationists.
Also, you'd people noting that during a press briefing,
he just seemed out of touch with other AI-related issues
when he touted data centers instead of regulation.
This is a group that loves local communities.
They live our country.
And they're gonna work with local communities
for the data centers in particular.
And they're gonna work to make the community happy.
Data centers are gonna be very popular.
But again, even as Trump wants to forge ahead with AI,
some companies are still making
and the call for things to slow down.
Open AI, for example, just yesterday,
they canceled the release of their newest model
over safety concerns.
But it's known as GPT, 6.1, Astra,
and it was set to debut in October,
so in just a few weeks or even days.
But you've got the Wall Street Journal reporting
at researchers, they found concerns during internal testing,
and they're saying this is one of the clearest signs
so far that agent misbehavior could stymie
the industry's rapid progression.
And this new GPT model apparently regressed in a few ways
by not abiding by what humans wanted it to do
and showing high levels of deception.
Right, not telling its users what actions it took
or did not take.
And it would also just go forward with tasks without asking user permission and reach for tools that might be unsafe.
And so we had Open AIs had a safety system saying for anything regarding safety and alignment, there's a trade-off,
saying the new model didn't quite meet the bar in terms of staying within the scope and authorization and how it communicates back to the user about the type of work it's done.
Tonight, you've got the company trying to figure out what was causing these issues with Astra, and they're going to later still try to use it as a base that will later create future GPT6 models.
But then also with this, you're seeing a debate over how we're supposed to handle the very real threats that this technology poses.
And if you ask the American public, they seem to be on just the slow down side.
Or with the recent Reuters poll, finding that 73% of people worry that AI companies,
they haven't done enough to prevent the tech from causing serious harm,
and 55% saying that it would be good to ease the pace of development.
And then there's even more we're going to dive into in just a minute,
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I'm gonna cram in some more news you need to know
before you go.
Starting with the news that Arkansas Governor
Sarah Huckabee Sanders
has her voter base completely pissed off
about an ad she just put out.
Me Brad, Brad has turned relaxing
into a full-time profession.
But you, you actually work hard.
You pay taxes to cover welfare
for guys like Brad,
who just choose not to work.
Wow.
That's why I launched a welfare-to-work requirement.
Almost there.
Now, more Arkansases are working than ever before.
Even Brad.
Now, while on the surface, this seems like everything you'd expect from a Republican ad,
right, they're trying to appear like they're on this crusade
to make sure that people aren't taking free handouts and soaking up your tax money.
But apparently, for many of her people, the messaging was not the issue.
It was the guy they used to deliver it.
You are demonizing white men inappropriately when they are not,
the primary demographic that is engaged in welfare fraud.
We're really, really tired of anti-white racism,
especially coming from our own people.
Right, so with the guy in the ad being seen
is this loser, freeload, a ride on government benefits,
you had people claiming that, hey,
she just made young white men the face of welfare.
And you judge like Matt Walsh claiming,
hey, this is another example of Republicans
shitting on them at every possible opportunity,
although they're the party's voter base.
Even arguing that, quote, Republicans
don't have the balls to do this ad
with Shiniqua as the villain.
And while it seems obvious to many
that Matt Walsh is just a,
This whole situation, it then got a lot of people looking at the specific numbers.
And as far as Arkansas as of 20-24, white people, they made up about 57% of Medicaid recipients,
while black people only made up about 20% and in 2023, 54% of SNAP recipients were white,
while about 34% were black.
And well, obviously, for like a deep dive into this topic, you have to account for how their overall
population plays into that, as well as how racism has historically put different people
at different backgrounds into different starting positions and how that has played out over years
and years and decades.
The bottom line for many is that if Sanders was paying attention to the numbers,
Brad actually made sense to use for the ads.
You had a lot of people clapping back there.
What they're mad about is that they didn't put a black person in the set.
Let's just be clear about that for a second.
They want to cast all black people in America as lazy and living off the government teat.
It's absolutely disgusting stuff.
Now they're seeing it reflected in their own face in the way that they look and they're very upset about it.
But then also, even if you look past the numbers,
Sanders is running for reelection against a black man by the name of Fred Love.
So you had a number of people saying, hey, if she ignored the stats for the sake of a few angry white guys,
that would have led to a whole other set of problems for her.
And so with all that, you had Sanders standing her ground, focusing on the core message of the ad, saying,
next thing, you know, they'll say I should have used cookies instead of cheese balls.
But as far as if this is going to bite her in the midterms, we'll see. It's still Arkansas.
Also, in the news, the Senate just did something very rare. In a vote of 77 to 22, both parties
mostly agreed on a thing. And that thing could actually change college sports forever.
You've got the Protect College Sports Act, and it's the sweeping attempt to bring order to what
everyone's been calling the Wild West of College Athletics. And so in it, you have schools being
allowed to roughly double what they pay their players up to about 50 million.
dollars a year per school. Also, athletes get to keep more of their name, image-likeness money,
because agents can now only take 5%. And for the first time, athletes and women's at Olympic sports
get a guaranteed cut of that pool. But then also, there's a trade-off. Athletes can only transfer
once without a penalty, and they get a tight five-year window to play. So seemingly, one of the
biggest winners here is actually the NCAA, right? Because the bill hands them something that
they've wanted for years, a shield for the lawsuits that have been slowly tearing its rulebook apart.
And then that is where you're seeing critics come in, right? Because you've got them
arguing that the protections for women's and Olympic sports expire in nine years, but the NCAA's legal
Shield never does. And then while there's a cap on how much the players can earn, there's no cap on
what the coaches make. But ultimately, we won't know if this is going to pass until after the midterms,
because the house has to pass it and they're not in session right now. And then your final bit of
news today is that America's military leadership is about to get gutted, where with Pete Hegseth
announcing a 20% reduction across generals and admirals. And of course, that brings up a question
for you. Is he trimming it because of bloat or is he cutting valuable leadership experience?
By the way, this is really one of the most aggressive leadership shakeups at the Pentagon in modern
history. And in total, dozens of top leaders across the Army, Navy, Air Force, and other branches
are going to be cold as part of a directive to trip what Hegset thinks is a top-heavy bureaucracy.
And instead, the Pentagon will focus on, quote, war-fighting readiness. And you've got supporters
arguing that the top brass has grown unnecessarily bloated and it created chains of command
that weren't streamlined. And in times of war, convoluted chains can be a problem, but
politicians across both parties are skeptical if we're really at that point yet. Because the U.S.
military does have a significantly higher ratio of officers to troops today than during major conflicts
like World War II. But also basing it off that ratio kind of misses a key fact, the draft.
Right, being an officer requires a degree which can defer your service in times of war,
whereas everyone else has to go, so of course the ratio is lower. And then add in the fact
that being an officer is a big career move and of course people want to stay in the service.
And then with this, you've got critics adding that purging top brass so quickly,
it risks politicizing leadership and stripping away vital institutional experience at a time
when we're in an active war and global tensions are very, very high.
And that's before remembering this isn't the first cut. Right back in 2025, Hexseth already ordered that
at least 20% of the National Guard's general officers
be purged while general and flag officers
were cut by 10%.
Heggseth also blocked the promotion of officers
slated to become one or two star general,
saying that such promotions are not guaranteed
and that they serve at the pleasure of the president.
And then also regardless of if this ends up being a good move
or not or it kind of doesn't matter,
it seems like just the optics, they're not great.
If Trump hadn't started this war of choice with Iran,
this would probably be a much smaller story.
With act of fighting and fears that will escalate,
you have people wondering, is this really the hill
that Hexeth wants to die on?
And that, my friends,
you beautiful bastards brings us to the,
end of your Tuesday, Philip DeFranco show. Another daily dive into the news in the books.
And well, of course, we'll see right back here tomorrow as we dive into the news this weekend.
A quick reminder if you're in or around or want to go to D.C. and or Pittsburgh.
Myself and Alex Brollman are going to be doing our final two live shows of the year.
You can get your tickets at crashing outtort.com. They want us to add some more shows, but I
just need 100% be here for Lindsay and the family as she finishes her run for this seat.
And we've got a lot going on, but it is all good things. So on that note, let me just say,
Thank you for watching. I love yo faces. I'll see you right back here tomorrow.
