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Starting point is 00:01:17 Somehow things usually get worse before they get better. Apparently, that's how I roll. So bundle up and come along for the bumpy ride. Stream a new episode of North of North Tuesdays on CBC Gem. The Hassan Piker situation has gotten so crazy you had Benjamin Netanyahu attacking him while speaking at the UN today. The controversy around Meda's pervert glasses has gotten so big, Mark Zuckerberg just broke his silence. You also just had AI CEOs going to the UN to beg them to protect everyone from them. And what this Mary Patola scandal has really exposed.

Starting point is 00:01:46 We're talking about all of that and even more. On today's brand new Philip DeFranco show, you daily dive into the news starting with this. Hassan Piker has now sparked an all-out war over free speech on college campuses. Because Hassan, he's set to speak at court now today, which he says he'll stream on. on Twitch and he'll also have a similar event scheduled at UT Austin next week. But you then had both events getting significant backlash from Jewish students and faculty, as well as various groups on the campuses that represent Jewish, pro-Israel, and conservative students. You had many raising concerns about Jewish safety, noting some of Hassan's more controversial comments on different topics,

Starting point is 00:02:15 as well as his vocal criticisms of Israel and certain remarks that he's made that some consider anti-semitic. And while you'd people bring up the kind of the Hassan classics that you see from every outrage cycle around him, you also had a lot of people noting this comedy made on a recent stream. Because people don't fuck with Israel any longer. And if Jews in America keep putting this idea out there that they are singularly invested in Israel, eventually someone's going to come around and take action. Not against the state of Israel, mind you, but against American Jews. And while some Jewish groups and critics claiming at those words in bold and extremists

Starting point is 00:02:48 and normalized hostility towards Jews, you had Hassan and others saying that he was trying to make the point that equating criticisms of Israel with anti-Semitism undermines and encourages real acts of anti-Semitism. And so with all this, you saw last week, Cornelians for Israel. Israel and Cornell, Hillel, both issuing statements condemning the planned event. You have the campus Hillel claiming that they support free expression and debate, but then adding, Mr. Piker's views, however, though against our values as Americans and Jews and his hateful antisemitic rhetoric is repulsive.

Starting point is 00:03:13 And while notably, both groups actually stopped short of calling for the event to be canceled. Others have then taken it even further with a Jewish advocacy group Safe Campus, circulating a petition urging Cornell, state, and federal officials to call it off. But then also with this, you had the pro-Palestine Jewish group Jewish Voice for Peace, which actually helped organize a speech, hitting back at the criticism, right, saying they reject the characterization of Hassan Piker as anti-Semitic and the suggestion that his imitation reflects hostility toward Jewish students. And with that, noting that he frequently uses provocative language that some might disagree with, but disputing the

Starting point is 00:03:41 idea that he is actually hostile towards Jews. But then also, over in Texas, things have gotten way more heated, right? With top politicians chiming in student groups, even receiving death threats against Hassan. And there, in addition to opposition from Jewish groups, you had Governor Greg Abbott, Senator Ted Cruz, and Texas A.G. Ken Paxton, all slamming the planned speech. So that's not to say It was all Republicans. You also had some Democrats chiming in with, for example, one congressman writing. Free speech allows difficult and controversial views, but it does not require anyone to stay silent when someone has a history of hateful comments about Jewish Americans, 9-11, and Amas terrorism. And then adding, Jewish students at UT should not be made to feel targeted or unsafe on their own campus. And there, the reaction got so big that you had Hassan responding to the political leaders himself, claiming that they were trying to get his speech canceled and adding,

Starting point is 00:04:21 it's a public university. This is a direct violation of the First Amendment. Saying free speech must be protected, them should push back against this attack. And actually with that, you had University Democrats, which is putting on the event, accusing UT of sabotaging the speech. Because according to the group, 2,500 people signed up for the event, which was set to be held in an auditorium that seated around 460. But then with that you had University Democrats President Adi Raha telling reporters that as the interest grew, his group started receiving death threats against Assam. With that said to include multiple threats that called for him to be Kirk, which of course is a reference to the fact that Charlie Kirk was assassinated while speaking at a university in Utah. So as a result, campus police told Raha that given the expected crowd size and the potential threats, they recommended that the event be moved to a larger and more secure location.

Starting point is 00:04:58 And while Rahab said that he found two other venues on campus that didn't seem to be booked, school leadership told him they weren't available. So you have him claiming that the schools refusing to help them find another solution despite the fact that the campus police literally recommended that they moved the talk. And so with that he thinks that the school could be dragging

Starting point is 00:05:11 its feet because of the content of Hassan's planned remarks. Right, in arguing that the university's actually required to provide a larger venue under its own policies. And there, pointing to a rule on speech expression and assembly that says if crowd size can't be accommodated safely at a certain location, campus authorities will direct that it be relocated, quote, to a space that is better suited to the size of the assembly,

Starting point is 00:05:28 to the extent relocation is practicable. And so you had Raha arguing, we're being essentially soft canceled. Saying by not giving us a venue, they're essentially pushing us out of campus and adding. Safety is our number one priority, so if need be, we'll move it off campus. Saying this event will be happening no matter what, we're not going to cancel the event. Right, and all this is going down just over a month after the University of Washington actually canceled a lecture that Asan was supposed to give in January as part of a speaker series with 16 different events. And while you're at the school, claiming that the decision was made after a review,

Starting point is 00:05:54 revealed that, quote, the process for organizing this event did not meet the necessary level of rigor for university-hosted events in the Speaker's series, and adding that it wasn't just Hassan, nearly half of the 16 announcing events were also canceled for the same reason. You had a lot of people expressing skepticism about those claims, including Hassan himself, who accused the school of canceling his lecture because of his views on Israel. And so then with all this, you've got experts saying that there's discourse around all the events, especially the one at UT, they raise important questions about balancing First Amendment rights while ensuring the safety of both speakers and campuses as a whole in a post-Kirk America.

Starting point is 00:06:22 Because for years, you had conservatives accusing colleges of using safety concerns as a pretense to prevent speakers from coming to their campuses. And actually, one of the most high-profile examples of that back in the day was Milo Yiannopoulos, who's popped up in the news for different reasons recently. Back then, you had multiple college cancellations during a speaking tour's in 2016 and 2017 because of safety concerns and threats of violence. But also, with the shooting of Charlie Kirk, it shows that sometimes these threats are actually real. Especially at a time when politicization sky high and violent rhetoric's being normalized by the people

Starting point is 00:06:47 at the very top. And, you know, since then, safety concerns have been raised by activists across the political spectrum to cancel speaking engagements. But then at the same time, you have free speech advocates claiming that the vast majority of threats aren't actually credible enough to justify canceling a speaker. Arguing that unless there's a legitimate and high likelihood of violence, campus leaders need to do everything in their power to make these events happen. And a warning, absent real threats, canceling or preventing these kinds of events,

Starting point is 00:07:07 it just feeds the trolls and censors free speech. And with that, you would an expert at the foundation for individual rights and expression arguing. Ultimately, it sends a bad message to the campus community that if you complain enough or threaten to disrupt an event you don't like, you can get your way and prevent that event from even taking place. And saying that has implications that go beyond that single event and can have a chilling effect. And saying as long as that student body remains on campus, that incident is going to stick in their minds. And to bring it back to specifically what we're

Starting point is 00:07:29 seeing with Hassan Pica right now, you should not expect the focus to really get off of him anytime sooner, at least until after the midterms. Right, right-wing politicians, right-wing candidates, right-wing media, they're really trying to use him as a boogeyman, even though he is not a politician that is running for office. So if they didn't focus on him, they'd have to focus on the fact that they enabled a monster to be the president, who put us in a war of choice that is ruining everything. And that's just scratching the surface of all the bad shit. And two, just highlighting what a unified effort this is, you had Benjamin Netanyahu while speaking at the UN today bringing Hassan up. You count as friends people like Hassan Piker, who said America

Starting point is 00:08:06 deserved 9-11. America deserved 9-11. Some friends you have. And honestly, really all he's accomplishing is raising Hassan Piker's profile. When you have one of the most hated and detested people in the world, someone that a lot of people look at and go, that's a fucking war criminal. denouncing you, that just seems like an endorsement. It's weird Netanyahu did it. It's deranged and actually funny enough, it is going to further normalize someone that you're trying to make out to be the boogeyman.

Starting point is 00:08:34 And we're already seeing it further feed into the narrative and theories that people are getting their instructions from Netanyahu and the Israeli government. Right, people posting this video and saying things like, I think it's no longer a conspiracy theory and it is safe to infer that the anti-Hassan Piker media fixation has been in part directed from Tel Aviv.

Starting point is 00:08:49 Though also as far as Netanyahu, you'd probably rather people talk about this controversy situation rather than the fact that people walked out on him at the UN. Where with delegations leaving and Netanyahu trying to appear strong, calling them moral cowards. If there are any other moral cowards who haven't yet left this hall, please do so now. Right, and then actually, jumping from that, let's talk about this Mary Poltola situation. Because she's the Democratic nominee, the candidate up in Alaska, and she's now been accused

Starting point is 00:09:15 of hurling slurs at her staff, randomly firing them, and even physically shoving them around. And you've got a lot of eyes on this because it's coming out while she's locked in this very tight race that could determine control of the Senate. Right, in Patola, she's a former representative who first joined the U.S. House in a special election in 2022, winning a full term that fall, but then losing re-election in 2024. But then you also had National Democrats absolutely excited to hear that she was running for Senate against Republican Dan Sullivan. Herkotola is a date of Alaska and she's a moderate Democrat.

Starting point is 00:09:38 She's well-known and well-liked across the state. And Democrats, they're really looking at her as a real chance to flip the Alaska seat. So then also, by extension, help flip the Senate blue. Something that a year ago or even months ago felt impossible. But now, you have this report coming from the Times saying that Patola has a back habit of angry outburst, random firings, and even calling people including her staff, slurs. And as far as specifics, you had the time sitting down with nine former staff members to talk about this. Right, and four of those former employees reportedly heard her using a homophobic slur

Starting point is 00:10:03 against both her own staff and outside people who had ticked her off somehow. Also, you had a few other staff members saying that she at one point shoved a male staffer out of the way while she was looking for a memo for a meeting. It was described as a palm to chest shove, causing him to stumble backwards. She would also allegedly stomp her feet when she was frustrated and sweep stacks of her off her desk. And you had former staffer saying that it was small things that would set her off. Like one of her employees in proper dress for the the cold weather or a social media post that she didn't like. And then with this, you know the New York Times also reviewing dozens of texts from Ptolla that appeared to corroborate

Starting point is 00:10:28 what the staffers were saying. She had things like this one that she reportedly sent after her Planned Parenthood started taking a closer look at how she was deliberating a defense bill that included anti-abortion policies. With a reportedly following that up later in the year with a message saying she hoped a woman on the board of the local Planned Parenthood chapter, quote, dies of a babotched abortion. Then there's this one that she's said to have sent after a commercial executive posted a selfie with her that caused a huge political snafu because she's opposed to large-scale commercial trawling. And then there's the firing. Just last month and days before the Alaska primary, she fired a handful of longtime staffers. And so the person who ran her political

Starting point is 00:10:56 operation through three campaign cycles and her campaign manager both getting cut and her chief staff was demoted. And at the time, he was the campaign trying to downplay the situation, but at the Times reports two of her former staffers say that the firings were the result of one of Patola's outburst. And all of this reportedly led to a stressful workplace. Staff reportedly were sometimes driven to tears or lost weight because of the stress. And he also just quit. And Patola actually racked up one of the highest staff turnover rates on Capitol Hill during her time in Congress. Now, at the time, things were attributed to her replacing staff because of what used to be a Republican-held office. Except there, only five of the two dozen staff that ended up leaving before she lost

Starting point is 00:11:26 her seat had actually worked there before she rolled in, according to a research website, Legistore. Now, with all that said, right, with all this, there are a lot of people pushing back on this narrative that she's out of control. Or even a spokesperson for her campaign just out in denying her use of any homophobic slur as well as any pattern of abusive behavior. But they did acknowledge that she sometimes struggled dealing with the grief of losing her mom and her husband over a few months in Her husband actually died suddenly in a plane crash last year, so with that, you had her spokesperson saying, at the time of their passing, Mary was parenting kids through their own grief, serving full-time in the U.S. House of Representatives thousands of miles from home and running a

Starting point is 00:11:58 competitive re-election campaign, all while shouldering the enormous burden of grief. Saying like any person who has gone through multiple tragedies in the span of a few months, Mary sometimes struggled to deal with her grief, but they also added, exaggerating and outright lying about moments from the hardest period of her life and falsely presenting them as a pattern of behavior is wrong. You're also seeing friends and former aid saying that none of the allegations here align up with their experience with Patola. And among those, you have the finance director of her 22 campaign, Paul Horner, who called her, quote, one of the finest human beings he's ever worked for, with a madding that anything about a negative workplace environment does not align with his

Starting point is 00:12:30 interactions with her. And while she declined commenting on this herself, her campaign did provide some former staff members, including an aide who worked with her in the state legislature in the 2000s, right, who said that Patola yelling at her staff, quote, just doesn't sound like the Mary I worked with. And then even those who did acknowledge that she may have, quote, raised her voice, said it was just because she was grappling with the grief and working with people who didn't understand the blue-collar environment Patola grew up in. And adding, there is some communication that could have been better, but I don't think it was ever an abusive scenario.

Starting point is 00:12:54 But that is essentially where we're at right now. And as far as, like, does this move the needle? Who knows? Each state is very, very different. Personally, it feels like in 2026, after the last decade of controversies and scandals that we've seen and gone through, this feels smaller. And if you look online, there doesn't seem to be like a ton of juice behind this. Right, I mean, just going through the top comments on the article that broke this news,

Starting point is 00:13:17 you see people saying, did she try to turn over the results of a free and fair election? Did she stand idly by while the president trampled all over press freedoms and civil liberties? Did she turn a blind eye to blatant grift and corruption in the executive branch? Did she pretend that she has no constitutional authority to prevent the president from waging senseless wars? No, then I'll vote for her, saying you're missing the big picture, New York Times. Others asking, why is it we only ever hear these stories about female candidates? Others adding, now do a story on how Dan Sullivan supported Trump has helped destroy the country. And finally, October surprise come early, Alaskans, here's your choice.

Starting point is 00:13:43 A man who will shield and support a man who's swindling us out of our tax dollars while starting wars that make everything more expensive, or a woman with a potty mouth and rage issues following the death of her husband and mother. That's your decision. Make it a good one. And if anything you're seeing more people focus on the weirder aspects of the reporting, there was a thing I didn't even mention. One of the pieces of reporting and what's been described as a hip piece read, her demands could be unusual, such as requiring aids to feed live crickets to her family's pet chameleon meatball. But hey, the midterms around the corner, so time will tell. Though I will say, before all this, polling showed her head of Dan's

Starting point is 00:14:10 Sullivan by about five percentage points for the Senate seat. Though of course, I always add that asterisk, polls or polls, it's not election results. And then there's even more we gotta dive into in just a minute, but first, a quick word from a sponsor. Sometimes you think about making a career decision for so long that every option starts sounding equally right and equally wrong.

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Starting point is 00:15:21 with the fact that these devices have cameras that can record their surroundings. And you actually now have Mark Zuckerberg finally addressing the backlash against them, which is actually pretty notable because this is not necessarily a new controversy. Right, Meta's made versions of these glasses since 2021, and they include an indicator light

Starting point is 00:15:34 that blinks when the device is recording so that everyone can be alerted. But also we've seen that the more popular they've become and the more people encounter them in the real world, the more hate they've been getting. And over the summer, you saw criticisms and backlash grow. And with that, you had news outlets starting to report on viral videos

Starting point is 00:15:47 where people were unknowingly being recorded and harassed by people that were covertly filming. And so sometimes you had videos that were so-called Riz camming, like when women were being hit on and harassed by men and didn't know what camera was on them. Other times, it was just used to create a public nuisance or be rude to service workers, right, so harassment nuisance content. And even though these trends eventually resulted in Instagram head Adam Aseri cracking down on those videos, reports have found that they are still all over Meta's platforms. Right, and then on top of this, it's been reported

Starting point is 00:16:10 that many people have been able to hack the indicator recording light to cover or even remove it. And so that way, people really have no idea whether they're being filmed or not. And while you've got meta saying there are detection tools that prevent the glasses from recording videos if the lights covered, some have been able to successfully continue filming with duct tape over it or an LED blocker. You've also had outlets like NBC News or in a mass report on how some people are physically drilling and removing light from the glasses. Some even advertise their services on Facebook marketplace and they charge up to a hundred bucks to do this for people so they can secretly record. And I mean, this is anecdotal, but I've been on TikTok and literally served

Starting point is 00:16:38 ads about people saying, hey, this is how you cover up the light. And so all of that, it's why these devices have been getting known more and more as pervert glasses. You even have ads that pop up condemning them for mass surveillance, encouraging people to publicly shame people who wear them and even putting the glasses on Jeffrey Epstein's face to call them glasses or people who don't consent. So meta, they've really been fighting the PR battle over this. Right? They've tried to make them cool and less creepy, doing collaborations with people like Kylie Jenner. But then you go to her comments in the post where she's promoting it,

Starting point is 00:17:04 and it's just people accusing her of promoting predator glasses and arguing they are such a scary product for a woman to be supported. And you've also had some of the women who were secretly filmed speaking out. I had no say in it. And I've had other women reach out to me. It was a lot worse. It was to the point where they don't even know who filmed them. and yet it's being posted online under a burner account. If someone sees a phone in front of their face,

Starting point is 00:17:25 they have the opportunity to step away, to approach someone and say, hey, I don't want you to record. With these smart glasses and these smart technology, you're taking away the right of refusal. And actually, it's been reported that all this criticism, it led to Apple delaying their release of their own smart glasses so they could tackle

Starting point is 00:17:42 those privacy concerns. Right, well, obviously, it's in its own category, it's different, it is still very similar to what we've seen with flock cameras. Where with more and more people just really unsettled that the moment they step out in public, they're being watched and surveilled without their consent, with all this data getting sent to who knows where. And actually, like with flock, there are platforms that are devoted to tracking

Starting point is 00:17:58 when you might be encountering these devices. One of them is actually called Zuckoff, and it uses Bluetooth to detect if any AI-powered glasses are in a user's vicinity, with it reportedly being downloaded over 35,000 times already. But with this, Zuckerberg, he's been kind of denying that these glasses have a bad reputation. Regarding the term pervert glasses, specifically, he told NBC News, it's, I think, something that will be under control and doesn't seem to really be affecting how people feel about the glasses overall. And he also had up sitting down for an interview with the Outledge Chief Tech analyst saying,

Starting point is 00:18:23 part of what we've seen recently is that the glasses have just become mainstream. And I think we probably should have made sure that we talked more about this feature all along. I think companies like ours, we both need to substantively do the right things, which I think in this case we are, and we need to make sure that we're talking about it so that people know what we stand for. They have the comfort of knowing that we're kind of on it and we're focused on it. And that's the part that I think we've ramped up more recently. Zuckerberg also claimed that when it comes to people covering the indicator light to record covertly,

Starting point is 00:18:53 meta does end up remotely disabling their accounts. And actually, you have the reporter noting that that happened to her after she got the light removed, right, her account was bricked by meta. And at least according to Zuckerberg, only a very small percentage of users are trying to disable the light anyways, just under 1%. But also a key thing here is just yesterday you had the company announcing a series of new meta glasses, including one that does not have a camera. Right, they're a cheaper audio only set, but still, you had Zuck insisting, these were not made in response to the recent backlash.

Starting point is 00:19:15 We're saying that this is just to provide more options to consumers. No, I mean, we have to work on these things. We start working on them. Like, I mean, you know how this works. I mean, you look like a very long time in advance. We didn't decide to design this in two months because some people had some questions a couple months ago. Some people are going to want the lightest and slimmest thing

Starting point is 00:19:35 or for the cheapest price. The reporter are pushing back on privacy concerns with these glasses as well. I noticed on these that there's no indicator light. Well, there's no camera. But you may record audio with these. Oh, yeah, I mean, the indicator is for the camera. I mean, that's been, I mean, going back to the question that you had before,

Starting point is 00:19:56 you know, people have raised more questions about this recently, and I've been reflecting on why is that? Because from day one of designing the glasses that have cameras, we've built in a number of features that no phone or anything that can take pictures has had before. had before. So then with all this, you have some still not impressed with these glasses arguing. Less pervy is still pervy. Right. And then, actually, jumping from that to other news, we should talk about how the CEOs of OpenAI and Anthropic, they went to the UN Security Council and they begged them to regulate the technology that they've created. And I'll say, my favorite way

Starting point is 00:20:29 that I saw someone describe this is that Sam Altman is warning the world about Sam Altman and says, we need to stop Sam Altman because Sam Altman can't stop Sam Altman. And as far as specifics, in their speeches yesterday, you had Sam Altman from OpenAI and Dario Omode from Anthropics, stressing at the end of humanity threats that everyone's been talking about, they are very fucking serious. And now is the time to take action. We have a choice in front of us. AI can either be more like a new renaissance of creativity and discovery or more like a new industrial revolution of upheaval and disarray. As AI systems become more capable and more autonomous, they could move faster than our institutions, concentrate power in too few hands,

Starting point is 00:21:06 or make decisions that people no longer understand or control. We do not have all the answers. and we're very open to any better ideas. We're ready to work with you all and try our hardest to figure out the path forward. We are at a crossroads. One path leads to a world where power is concentrated, decisions are opaque, and people feel that the most important technology

Starting point is 00:21:27 of their lifetime is something being done to them. If managed poorly, I even believe that AI could be a risk to humanity as a whole. I believe that this is the most important global security issue facing the world today. for all the differences of the people in this room, we must put aside those differences in order to confront this global opportunity and global threat that is being presented to us at the same time. And you know, with all that, you of course still have people divided.

Starting point is 00:21:54 Some saying this is all part of a marketing ploy in some way. Then you also had plenty of others saying, hey, you could see the fear in their eyes as they openly admit that they got carried away with their apocalypse machines and they need help. Also, some more key things. You had a moda calling for a ban on using a technology to develop biological weapons and advocating for global standards for testing new models. We're saying that managing those risks is going to be bigger than just one company, with Sam Altman agreeing with that sentiment and saying that major decisions about safety,

Starting point is 00:22:17 quote, cannot be made by labs in San Francisco alone. Also, in addition to those two, you had Canadian computer scientists and AI expert, Yoshua Benjio speaking, emphasizing that AI has already taken actions that would be crimes if committed by a human. Right in warning about catastrophic misuse by terrorists and lost control of the technology. You also had the CEO of Hucking Face Clem, the Lang, also making an appearance to remind everyone of that incident last July, where open AI agents went rogue and launched a cyber security attack on his platform.

Starting point is 00:22:40 And of note with him is that he shared his take about how the risk is not necessarily AI itself, but the asymmetry of AI. Asymmetry between attackers and defenders, between a few companies and everyone else, between a few countries and the rest of the world. Right, and all of this, of course, it's connected to a wave of AI panic that was also then set off even more by those viral tweets. Former and current researchers saying AI might kill us all by the end of the decade. The thing is, well, there was obviously a lot of the last.

Starting point is 00:23:07 lot of focus on that and then there was a lot of focus on the CEOs releasing statements and letters. This extinction conversation is actually something that's been happening in AI circles for years now, but it's now reaching the public part. And this is notably in a new CBS poll, you had more than half of respondents saying that they're worried that AI models are going to act on their own to harm humans. But again, as far as like, who does not care about this? Who is not heeding the warning? Trump, because you also had him speaking with the UN this week, but he delivered the exact opposite message of the CEOs. And also part of his thinking seemed to be that it's really, it's really just branding problem, a marketing problem.

Starting point is 00:23:39 Ray telling them that he's renaming it super-intelligence because he doesn't think artificial is accurate. And that the use of the word artificial makes intelligence fake. It makes it sound fake, and it is not fake. It's actually amazing. Whoever wins, SI. Whoever wins, super-intelligent wins. That's the group that wins.

Starting point is 00:24:02 And we're leading now over China by a lot and everyone else, and we're going to keep it that I'm not going to stifle growth of something that will be bigger than the Industrial Revolution. Well, Trump also said in a speech that we have to be careful with AI, those end up looking like empty words, considering his refusal to cooperate with anyone that's trying to rein this in, which every day feels like a bigger and bigger problem, because it feels like every day we are seeing another situation and story pop up. I mean, literally the same day that the CEOs briefed the Security Council, there was this super alarming new report about a rogue open AI model hacking into Australia's healthcare system.

Starting point is 00:24:35 And there you're the agents getting into a government website last June and the access non-sensitive but still private data, something you had experts calling the first known case of its kind in the world. And as far as their reaction, you had Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese saying that there'll be a forensic investigation led by Australia's cybersecurity agency

Starting point is 00:24:48 to see if any other government systems were affected. You also had him noting that he had what he called a very frank discussion with Altman to express Australia's extreme concern about the incident and his disappointment that the company took months to share this information. With Open AI apparently emailing an Australian government agency with the news on September 10th,

Starting point is 00:25:02 with Alton reportedly admitting that there are issues with the protocols at his company. And then in a statement, you had Open AI saying, they identified activity involving several Australian government websites and services as our models attempted to look up answers and available statistics for questions about Australia during an internal evaluation. Right, adding, in the course of that, our models took actions we did not intend. Right, which again does feel like the biggest concern with AI.

Starting point is 00:25:22 Like obviously, yeah, there are the concerns of people saying, oh, what happens when bad actors get a hold of this? But it does feel like so many of the stories that come out, it's literally problems that we've seen in science fiction for decades. An agent, an AI system being given a goal, and that agent going, what is the easiest way to accomplish it, regardless of laws, ethics, anything. Whereas ridiculous as it sounds, it feels like we're one test away from, hey, agent, come up with some ways that I can get some more time off of work,

Starting point is 00:25:49 and it's gonna shut down the fucking power grid. Claude, stop world hunger. Oh my god, why is it shooting all the nukes? But joking, or I don't even know if it is, joking at this point, aside, we'll see what happens. It feels like we are in a brave new world right now. And then there's even more we gotta dive into in just a minute, but first, let me thank a sponsor.

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Starting point is 00:28:23 And now Sony, they're turning your PlayStation controller into a cash register. And we're learning about this thanks to a newly published patent where Sony wants to let you buy video games and micro-transactions by just tapping your credit card or phone directly against your controller. They're calling it video game controller, an information transfer and it outlines a controller equipped with NFC and Bluetooth tech. So instead of typing out your 16 digit card number, saving your information on the console, the controller acts as the middleman. The console prompts a payment, you hold up your phone,

Starting point is 00:28:46 bank card, a gift card to your controller, it vibrates to confirm and boom, transaction complete. And again, we have a lot of people saying, hey, this makes sense. When a card isn't linked, the information's not in, typing it all out in a digital keyboard with a D-pad, it's a kind of form of torture. So this could be an incredibly convenient option. Then you have a lot of people say, this is so bad. Arguing one, by routing the payment right through the hardware were already in your hands. They're trying to remove the one physical obstacle between impulse control and your wallet. And two, that doesn't touch on the situation of kids and even some adults, not realizing that credit cards are not free money. So is there a situation where you leave

Starting point is 00:29:14 your credit card on the coffee table and your kid just waves a dual cents over it and boom, fee bucks. But hey for now, it's just a patent, so it might not hit until the PS6, or maybe it never even sees the light of day. Also in other news, it looks like Trump may have just blatantly broke the law and then put it on TV for everybody to see. So far, that ads reportedly aired on Newsmax in Chicago and Fox News in LA. And if you notice there at the end, it says it was paid for by the U.S. government. And so by that, he means you, the taxpayers. And a huge key thing is that since the 1950s, there's been a ban on using federal funds for publicity or propaganda.

Starting point is 00:29:42 Or what you have, including any ads that are purely partisan or designed to aid a political party or candidates. You had people like Senator Tom Tillis saying the ad was inappropriate. You had people like Representative Jamie Raskin taking things further saying that the ad could amount to felony criminal theft and conversion to government property for political campaign purposes. And it's as calling him out for potentially violating the Hatch Act, which bans government employees, from using their positions or official resources from political activities. So again, we're talking about Trump,

Starting point is 00:30:05 and I don't know if felonies actually phase him. And so if anything, this feels like it gets thrown onto the ever-growing pile of things that Democrats can take advantage of once they're in power. Or rather, let's not count those chickens yet if the Democrats take back power. And then the final bit of news you have is that Elon Musk, who's been busy screaming about white genocides,

Starting point is 00:30:21 throwing his heart out to people, a man trying to buy elections, he could now have a hand in one of the biggest media conglomerates ever. Because apparently his names come up as David Ellison's been looking for, for more paramount investors now that the Warner Brothers merger is practically done. And that for many is raised red flags and also is not surprising. One, Musk already has longstanding business times with Larry Ellison.

Starting point is 00:30:39 Larry actually invested a billion into Musk's Twitter deal back in 2022. And also before that, he invested in Tesla and served on its board for years. So while we haven't heard an official announcement yet, this wouldn't be the most surprising thing. Still, there's a lot of people worried about the politics behind this. And that's for a number of reasons, including ever since Ellison got control of CBS, all the Barry Weiss issues started coming up. And people started to say that the network was taking a more conservative lean, right? and things have been pretty tense. So now with Musk's name getting thrown around, you have critics saying,

Starting point is 00:31:02 okay, it's very obvious they're building a new conservative media giant. And notably, one run by the richest people in the world who also happen to be in the presidential posse. But that, my friends, you beautiful bastards, is the end of your Thursday show. And while you're very likely not going to get a Friday, Saturday, or Sunday bonus video from me this week, because I'm going to be doing live shows all weekend. Atlanta, then Chicago, then St. Paul. Get your last minute tickets of crashing outtort.com.

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