The Philip DeFranco Show - The Tucker Carlson Nick Fuentes Ben Shapiro Situation Is More Important Than Most Democrats Realize

Starting point is 00:00:00 We've got to talk about this MAGA right-wing civil war, because it's actually been going on for a bit, but it really heated up with this one interview. Because we had former Fox host and now podcaster Tucker Carlson bringing on the leader of the white nationalist Groyper movement, Nick Fuentes. Now, you know, with that, Carlson himself has been called a white nationalist by critics for a long list of past comments he's made, especially as promotion of the so-called Great Replacement conspiracy theory, which suggests that there's a scheme to gradually replace white people with non-white immigrants. You know, even for Carlson, for many, Fuentes was seen as a uniquely far-right guest, especially when it came to anti-Semitism.

Starting point is 00:00:30 And while you have people sharing moments from Carlson like this. What I do think is bad, just objectively bad and destructive, is the all Jews are guilty or all anybody is guilty of anything because that's just like not true. You also had people sharing clip after cliff of this nearly two and a half hour interview where Carlson seems friendly and sympathetic. You know, I agree with you on some of the things you're pivoting against for sure. I'm an American nationalist. Me too.

Starting point is 00:00:54 Worry about who lives in your country is far right? Apparently. There's a lot of these neocon. Jewish types behind the Iraq war. There's the foreign aid complex, which is really unique. It was the Zionist Jews, like Dave Rubin, like Ben Shapiro, like Dennis Prager. Fox is not a Jewish business, though. Well, Rupert Murdoch is an ally of Netanyahu. Not that interested in the Jews, but I'm very interested in the foreign policy question. We do, on some level, need to be pro-white, not to the exclusion of everybody else, but recognizing

Starting point is 00:01:22 that white people have a special heritage here. You say identity politics, like it's a bad thing. I think identity is reality. Identity is reality. Right. And so the full interview, it gets millions and millions of views, the clips, they go viral, pick up tens of millions of views across multiple platforms, and of course, you then have people reacting. And among those who had Ted Cruz, who also had a very hostile interview with Carlson not too long ago,

Starting point is 00:01:44 and he said, If you sit there with someone who says Adolf Hitler was very, very cool, and then their mission is to combat and defeat global jewelry, and you say nothing, then you are a coward, and you are complicit in that view." Right, and that is you had Republican and former Senate leader Mitch McConnell saying, last I checked, conservatives should feel no obligation to carry water for anti-Semites and apologists for America hating autocrats. But maybe I just don't know what time it is. But then also, someone with a lot of sway in the conservative movement came to Carlson's defense,

Starting point is 00:02:19 Kevin Roberts. He's the president of the Heritage Foundation, one of the most prestigious right-wing think tanks in the country, and the creator of Project 2020. Christians can critique the state of Israel without being anti-Semitic. The Heritage Foundation didn't become the intellectual backbone of the conservative movement by canceling our own people or policing the consciences of Christians. And we won't start doing that now. We will always defend truth. We will always defend America.

Starting point is 00:02:44 And we will always defend our friends against the slander of bad actors who serves someone else's agenda. That includes Tucker Carlson, who remains, and as I have said before, always will be a close. Always will be a close friend of the Heritage Foundation. With him then also adding that he disagrees with and even abhors things that Nick Puentes has said, but that canceling him is not the answer. But then with that you had others strongly disagreeing with, for example, Matt Brooks, the head of the Republican Jewish Coalition, telling Jewish insider that he was appalled, offended, and disgusted that Roberts and Heritage would stand with Tucker Carlson

Starting point is 00:03:14 and Nick Fuentes as somehow being acceptable spokespeople within the conservative movement. And now you also have Ben Shapiro jumping into the mix, throwing punches at both Roberts and Carlson. It is not cancellation to draw moral moral lines between viewpoints. It is not cancellation to refuse to signal boost Hitler's supporters like Nick Flintes. It is not cancellation to criticize Tucker Carlson for rhetorically fluffing Nick Flentes and other anti-American crackpots. In fact, Shapiro dedicated his entire show today just to the Carlson Fuentes controversy and

Starting point is 00:03:41 he didn't mince his words. They are white supremacists. They hate women, Jews, Hindus, many types of Christians, brown people of a wide variety of backgrounds, blacks, America's foreign policy, and America's Constitution. They admire Hitler and Stalin. With Shapiro then warning that they're now being normalized within the mainstream Republican Party and then adding, the main agent in that normalization is Tucker Carlson, who is an intellectual coward, a dishonest interlocutor, and a terrible friend. Now, with all this, for context, Shapiro's involvement here, it is likely something that he would already do, but also it is personal.

Starting point is 00:04:12 Right, he's fought with Tucker and Fuentes before, but they also brought his name up a lot during the interview. With Fuentes saying that he was actually a fan of Shapiro by the time that he went to college in 2016, having befriended many writers from the Daily Wire and getting cultivated as an up. up-and-coming right-wing debater. But then, according to his account, they first butt heads over Israel. I tweeted to Ben Shapiro. I said, you know, I've never seen anything on the daily wire that's actually critical of Israel. He quote tweets me and says, to accuse a Jew of dual loyalty is the surest sign of anti-Semitism. So then I put out another tweet, similar. I said something like, if you're China first, you should live in China. If you're Mexico first, you should live in Mexico. if you're Israel first, maybe you should go live in Israel.

Starting point is 00:04:56 And again, he quote tweets me and says, you're an anti-Semite. So you're an 18-year-old college freshman. You're clearly talented and you're engaged, you're really interested. And you ask not crazy questions. Like, what is this? And rather than explain it, they just call you a racist, call you an anti-Semite. So he claims that after a few months of what he said was just asking questions about Israel, he was finally excised from the movement.

Starting point is 00:05:19 And with that, he claimed of The Daily Wire was pivotal in blacklisting him. this even though, in his words. And not to be that guy and say that thing, but like, my best friend is a Jewish person. Ripid on his show today, you at Shapiro going on the offensive, playing a series of clips meant to prove that Fuentes' beliefs that extended far beyond just innocently questioning U.S. support for Israel. Or was Shapiro playing clips where it appears that Fuentes is saying that women actually want to be raped, instructing his followers to kill rape and die in his name, opposed civil rights

Starting point is 00:05:45 for women, arguing that Jim Crow wasn't a big deal and was actually better for black people stating that racism is justified, questioning the history of the Holocaust and calling Hitler really fucking cool. Hitler was a penophile and kind of a pagan. It's like, well, he was also really fucking cool. Also with that, you had people defending Fuentes, kind of landing in three camps or in a mishmash of them. Right, some seeing those clips and just saying base.

Starting point is 00:06:07 To others have said some of these are not recent takes, and others saying that they're out of context. But then with all this, you had Shapiro turning to Carlson, with him playing a series of clips where Tucker apparently defends Vladimir Putin, defends the Venezuelan president, Nicholas Maduro, gives a softball interview to the Iranian president, downplays Hamas and ties Jeffrey Epstein to the Israeli government. And with all this, you had Shapiro pointing out that Carlson also recently interviewed

Starting point is 00:06:27 Candace Owens, who herself hosted Nick Puentes before that and arguing that this is a pattern. You bring your dirty, ugly ideologies to Tucker Carlson's rhetorical carwash. He mixes it with some of the vestigial respect Americans have for him from his Fox News days and voila, hideous ideas suddenly become mainstream. But there's no question that Tucker has become the most virulent super spreader of vile ideas in America. You know, also in this situation, Shapiro, he wasn't the only high profile commentator targeted by Carlson and Fuentes. Right, because they also talked about Mark Levin and claimed that he was actually the one who first

Starting point is 00:06:57 radicalized Fuentes in 2016. He goes live and he says, America's becoming a majority non-white country. Has anybody think that's a good idea? And I was thinking to myself, yeah, that actually doesn't sound so good. Right now, while speaking before the Republican Jewish coalition, you had Levin shooting back at them. For six months, I've been fighting these bastards, whether it's Tucker Carlson, or whether it's Nick Fuentes, and I've been looking over my shoulder looking for help. And you know I found? Nothing. What do you mean we don't cancel people? We canceled David Duke. Donald Trump canceled

Starting point is 00:07:37 David Duke. We canceled Pap Buchanan. We canceled the John Birch Society. We canceled Joseph Sobrin. We canceled pornography on TV. We cancel stuff all the damn time. Hitler admires, Stalin admires, Jew haters, American haters, Churchill haters, you're damn right, we're gonna cancel them and deep platform them. And then, you know, there were also others who got caught in all this, not just Ted Cruz, but George Bush, Mike Huckabee, John Bolton, and others getting lumped together by Fuentes and Carlson as so-called Christian Zionists. And with that, you would Tucker in particular accusing them of heresy and saying that they've been infected by the brain virus that is neoconservatism.

Starting point is 00:08:16 You know, for now we're gonna have to wait to see what happens. Yes, in the long term, but also even just this week. The Carlson Fuentes interview kicked things off. You now have Shapiro, but there's going to be a lot more back and forth happening. Though, again, it didn't all stem from this podcast. These fissures, they've been widening for months now, if not years. Though arguably, I think the biggest mover in the last year or so has been what Israel did in Gaza. Lots of hearts, minds, opinions, viewpoints of change.

Starting point is 00:08:37 But again, that's just one aspect of a multi-front issue. And so with all this, as we wait to see how this Maga Civil War plays out, I'd love to know your thoughts, opinions, and reactions here. And then there's more we're going to dive into in just a minute, but first let me say, you know, Between gas, groceries, gifts, and the unexpected, holidays are basically a financial endurance test. And that, that's where today's sponsor Upside comes in clutch all season. Upsides is the free app giving you extra cash back on everyday purchases like gas, groceries, and eating out because holiday survival shouldn't require a second job. Open the app, claim an offer, pay like normal, follow the steps, and boom, money back.

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Starting point is 00:09:45 first tank of gas. It's an extra 25 cents back for every gallon on your first tank of gas, promo code DeFranco. The next step in the news, let's talk about MAGA world losing their minds this weekend over this picture because you've got a bunch of teachers from Tucson wearing bloody t-shirts with the words problem solved for Halloween. And to many MAGA, this was a clear reference to Charlie Kirk. And it really seemed to kick off when you had Andrew Colvitt, a spokesperson for Turning Point USA writing. Concerned parents just sent us this image of what's believed to be teachers mocking Charlie's murder. They deserve to be famous and fired. With then other conservative leaders like Florida Governor Ron DeSantis is then piling on and tweeting, it's been really disturbing to see teachers across the country, glorifying a murder just because they disagreed with the victim. Except, here's the thing, there was a major problem and that actually ends up being a pun, with this narrative. Because turns out it wasn't a reference to Kirk at all. With the Vale School District Superintendent John Carruth, quickly putting out a statement denying that and saying, we want to clarify that these shirts were part of a math-themed Halloween costume meant to represent solving tough math problems.

Starting point is 00:10:39 The shirts were never intended to target any person, event, or political issue. With them then going on to say that other descriptions of this were false claims and unequivocally untrue. Though you also saw Carruth trying to be a bit diplomatic and, saying that he understood how the image could come off badly and that we are, quote, truly sorry for the hurt or upset at his cause. So that also is there was other evidence that this wasn't a reference to Kirk, such as the fact that the teachers were the exact same thing last year, as many on social media pointed out. But of course, since this all went viral, the district and the individual teachers, they've apparently been getting harassed,

Starting point is 00:11:08 leading to demands that Colvitt and others apologized for getting it so wrong. And after seeing the evidence contradicting the claims that this was a Kirk reference, Colvitt appeared to double down and row. We've seen enough evil since Charlie's murder that I'd actually be relieved if this isn't another example. That being said, it's a very weird costume for teachers in general, but after what happened to Charlie, I'm absolutely floored they wore it again. I do not believe for a second that all of them are innocent. Some probably are, but I believe others knew exactly what they were doing. However, it looked like other TPUSA members were more apologetic. With, for example, Blake Neff, a producer for the Charlie Kirk show, writing that he realizes his proximity to the assassination makes it far more likely to see references to it, even if there wasn't one. But also, considering the evidence that the shirts were worn in last year, he didn't feel like it was right to keep his criticism up. That said, Though, some mega people, you know, they're outraged and they've kind of moved the goalpost slightly, and they've written things like, the school district claims these teachers wore the same exact shirts last year. I'm skeptical, but okay, let's pretend that's true. How is it okay for teachers to wear these shirts just three months after the public assassination attempt of Donald Trump?

Starting point is 00:12:05 It's not. It's abhorrent. And we've had some agreeing with that sentiment. You've also had others saying that just sounds like someone trying to save face. But hey, yeah, this is a new show, but also it's a conversation. So let me know your thoughts, opinions, and reactions here. Boarding for flight 246 to Toronto is delayed 50 minutes. Ugh, what? Sounds like Ojo time.

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Starting point is 00:12:49 you get to stress about if you want, if you were like, man, there's not enough stress in my life. Because a new study has now linked regular melatonin use with the increased risk of heart failure. So one, we should talk about it because you're going to see this in the news, but also two, because if you're one of the millions of people who use melatonin all the time, experts say that you shouldn't panic at least yet. Right? Because specifically, the study analyzed five years of data from over 130,000 adults with an average age of 55 who have been diagnosed with insomnia. Within that subset, the researchers found around 65,000 people who had been prescribed melatonin

Starting point is 00:13:18 and reported taking it for at least a year. Because while you or I, we might be able to walk into a drug store and buy as much as we want over the counter. Outside of the United States, there are other countries that require a prescription, like for example, the UK. Well, notably, patient locations weren't available to the researchers. They did account for a number of other factors that could influence heart failure risk, like various health conditions.

Starting point is 00:13:35 And to conduct the study, the researchers compared the health records of the 65,000 people who had prescribed melatonin with other patients who had insomnia, but no record of taking the supplement. What they found is that people with a recorded long-term melatonin use had about a 90% higher chance of heart failure over five years compared with non-users. So also, the actual number of people who had heart failure is still relatively low. We're talking like 4.6% for recorded melatonin users and 2.7% for non-users. But then also beyond that, research has found that people who took melatonin were nearly three and a half times as likely to be hospitalized for heart failure

Starting point is 00:14:05 and nearly twice as likely to die from any cause in those in non-melatonin groups. So you might look at that and get freaked out, especially because melatonin use has become so prevalent in recent years. With many viewing it is a safe, more natural sleep-A. I mean, a 2022 survey found that more than one and four adults reported taking the supplement to help them to sleep. But also, I'll say, before you panic, there are a few important things that we'd need to break down here. First of all, I'll say the study hasn't gone through the rigorous peer review process, so it's still considered to be preliminary.

Starting point is 00:14:31 And then beyond that, the study also had some very significant limitations that could pretty dramatically impact its finding. Right, the biggest issue by far is that the group of people listed as melatonin users were categorized that way only because they were prescribed the medication and had it noted in their health records. So the data, it doesn't account for people who could be taking it over the counter without a prescription. So it's very likely that many of the insomnia acts who were identified as non-users actually did take melatonin for an extended period, but it just wasn't in their records because maybe they live in America or one of the many other countries where you can get it over the counter.

Starting point is 00:14:58 And all of that, as experts noted, that the health records analyzed here, lacked important details about the severity of the insomnia among patients and whether those prescribed melatonin reported changes with their sleep patterns. Because quality sleep is incredibly important for heart health. Research shows that people who get poor sleep, they tend to have higher heart rates and blood rates. pressure and experience more cardiovascular events. So if the patient's taking prescription melatonin still were not getting good sleep, it could skew the results. And with that, you had an associate professor of cardiovascular medicine at Yale School of Medicine explaining, if they had such bad insomnia that they needed prescription dose melatonin, were they actually getting the benefit of the

Starting point is 00:15:30 melatonin for sleep? And if the answer is no, then you cannot have a correlation that melatonin causes heart failure. With them then adding that it's more likely that insomnia could be contributing to declining heart health and heart failure. You know, even the research is behind the study acknowledged that it had major limitations with the lead author saying. This doesn't prove that melatonin directly causes heart failure. It simply shows that people with chronic insomnia who took melatonin long-term were more likely to experience these outcomes. But still, he argued that the fact that they found a link at all, it's still notable and it needs to be studied further. Adding, melatonin is generally viewed as a very safe supplement as something people and

Starting point is 00:16:02 even physicians don't usually worry much about, so we honestly didn't expect to see a clear signal linking long-term use with higher rates of heart failure, hospitalizations, and death. And that's something that many experts agree on arguing that these findings, they raise questions about whether melatonin is more harmful than we think, and it highlights the need to study the medicine further. For now, you've got some medical professionals saying that, you know, there's no need for people in health care providers to change things up. Especially because some of the past research actually suggests that melatonin might have health benefits for people with heart failure. Some noting that it's an antioxidant and could help protect against coronary artery disease, which could cause heart failure. That said, experts still advise that melatonin should be used carefully and under supervision, especially for people who have

Starting point is 00:16:41 cardiovascular risk factors and then we'll get back to the news in just a minute but first let me say get in on this sale right now over at beautifulbash.com I decided to just do the the black friday sale now so right now if you go to beautiful bash.com pretty much everything 60 percent of all so you can grab yourself maybe some graphic gear flannels a polo the go anywhere pan candles there's a bunch also just small warning there is limited stock of this first push for november definitely grab what you want while you can for then next up today we've got to talk about how peace president Donald Trump has now threatened to go guns ablazing into Nigeria. And he said the reason for this is that thousands of Christians are being killed by radical Islamists

Starting point is 00:17:18 and the government's doing nothing to stop it. Though that, as you have experts saying, the truth, isn't that simple. Right, so Nigeria is an extremely diverse, multi-ethnic country, but in terms of religion, its population of more than 230 million people, it's split almost equally between Christians and Muslims and Muslims mostly in the north. And as far as the killing, the worst of it has been concentrated in the northeast, largely thanks to the extremist group, Boko Haram, and its years-long campaigned to build an Islamist state. But also here, while Christians are targeted, most victims of Boko Haram and other armed groups

Starting point is 00:17:45 are Muslim. Since that's the dominant population and the part of the country where most the attacks are happening. Now that said, in other parts of the country, there have also been clashes between mostly Christian farming communities and largely Muslim herders. And so religion, it's definitely a factor, but the conflict is also driven by land and resources. And overall, the data seems to back that up, with a U.S.-based armed conflict location and event data program finding that nearly 12,000 attacks against civilians resulted in over 20,000 deaths in Nigeria from 2020 until now. With 385 attacks resulting in 317 deaths being targeted events against Christians where Christian identity of the victim was a reported factor. And then also

Starting point is 00:18:18 196 attacks resulting in 417 deaths were against Muslims. And so with that, you've got a researcher at the Institute for Security Studies explaining. The crisis is far more complex than a simple religious framing suggests. The geography of violence largely determines who becomes the victim. But also, Despite that, there are those who have latched on to the less complex narrative, including before Trump. And that includes Senator Ted Cruz, who a few weeks ago, you had him introducing legislation to designate Nigeria as a violator of religious freedom. Alleging that, quote, officials are ignoring and even facilitating the mass murder of Christians by Islamist jihadists. Right, and then you fast forward to this week and you had Trump writing on social media, Christianity is facing an existential threat in Nigeria and claiming radical Islamists are responsible for the mass slaughter of thousands of Christians

Starting point is 00:18:59 and announcing that he would be designating Nigeria a country of particular. concern, and then adding, the United States cannot stand by while such atrocities are happening in Nigeria and numerous other countries. We stand ready, willing, and able to save our great Christian population around the world. And then with that, you had him not only threatening to end all aid and assistance to Nigeria, but he also warned, the U.S. may very well go into that now disgraced country, guns ablazing, to completely wipe out the Islamic terrorists who are committing these horrible atrocities, and adding, I am hereby instructing our Department of War to prepare for possible action. But then, Defense Secretary Pete Hegset, responding on X, saying, yes, sir,

Starting point is 00:19:32 and repeating the allegations against Nigeria. Though all of this, as you had the Nigerian president denying them, writing on X, the characterization of Nigeria as religiously intolerant does not reflect our national reality, nor does it take into consideration the consistent and sincere efforts of the government to safeguard freedom of religion and beliefs for all Nigerians. But also with that, I will add, while Trump's claims are misleading at best, many experts say that he is at least right that the government could be doing more. Right, and with that, you know, Trump mentioned making Nigeria a country of particular concern,

Starting point is 00:19:59 and that is a real designation established under the international religious Freedom Act of 1998 to describe countries that systemically violate religious freedoms. And you actually had the Independent U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom recommending this year that Nigeria be put back on that list after the Biden administration removed it. Though also, notably there, the Commission emphasized violence against both Christians and Muslims. Writing, religious freedom conditions in Nigeria are poor as the government tolerates or is slow to respond to attacks by non-state actors who kill, kidnapper, threaten Christians and Muslims in the Northern and Middle Belt regions. And so we're going to have to wait to see how this plays out, but also,

Starting point is 00:20:32 something notable about all this is that while Trump is pushing this misleading narrative about Nigeria, he's remained silent as an armed group backed by a US ally has been committing what is likely some of the most horrific violence of the 21st century. Right in there, I'm talking about what's happening in Sudan. Right, because the blood, it's visible from space. That's the results of likely tens of thousands of people being killed in the past week in the Sudanese city of Elfasher. Because as we've talked about, the paramilitary force known as the RSF, they took control of the city on October 26 after an 18-month siege. And while many have tried to escape, relatively few

Starting point is 00:21:01 have succeeded with a Doctors Without Borders coordinator in the town where most of those who have made it out have been arriving explaining our question is very simple where are they where are the rest and adding our fear is that these people have been detained for extortion or got killed and to that point those who have escaped they've reportedly been showing up with bullet wounds and signs of torture with one survivor saying about her journey out of the city there were bodies of men and women everywhere some people were run over by vehicles while we were on the road they took girls from our group choosing them and dragging them away you've also had the world health organization verifying an attack on L. Fasher's last functioning hospitals saying that more than 450 people have been killed.

Starting point is 00:21:35 And ultimately, like, we seem to be watching history repeat itself in a way that is unfortunately unsurprising. Because the RSF, it grew out of the government-backed militia as accused of genocide in Darfur in the early 2000s. Or when an estimated 300,000 civilians belonging mostly to non-Arab ethnic groups were killed, women were systematically, raped and millions of people displaced. And now you've got Nathaniel Raymond, the head of Yale's humanitarian research lab, saying that the RSF is now finishing the liquidation of Darfur and adding, this is the final battle of the Darfur Genocide. Though also in terms of the intensity of the violence, you had him evoking the 1994 Rwandan genocide where more than 800,000 civilians were killed in just over

Starting point is 00:22:10 100 days. And you had him saying that high-rise satellite images that his team had seen, it showed activity that suggests mass killing on a level that can only be compared to Rwanda. And adding, we have never seen a velocity of violence at this scale. We're in the tens of thousands in terms of all the body consistent objects on the ground. They are moving like a wood chipper and they are killing everything that moves. And then with all that, you know, we can't ignore the role that foreign powers either through direct support or indifference have played and making this violence possible. And there, you know, as far as the RSF, its biggest backer has been the United Arab Emirates, which has been supplying money and arms to the group. And with that, you had Cameron Hudson,

Starting point is 00:22:42 a former chief of staffed a successive U.S. presidential special envoys for Sudan, saying, the war would be over, if not for the UAE. The only thing that is keeping them in this war is the overwhelming amount of military support that they're receiving from the UAE. And then notably, with that, you know, the UAE gets a lot of support from the United States of America. And we've seen very little pushback on that from members of Congress. Right, yes, you've had a bipartisan group of senators issuing a statement condemning the violence and calling for the RSF to be designated a foreign terrorist organization and even noting Foreign backers of the RSF and SAF including the United Arab Emirates Russia, Iran, China, and governments in the immediate region have fueled and profited from the conflict and legitimized the monsters destroying Sudan But for all of that their statement doesn't call for any specific action against those countries

Starting point is 00:23:23 Now you've also had Senator Chris Van Hollen and some others pushing for legislation prohibiting arm sales to the UAE until it stops arming the RSS but that doesn't seem to actually have a chance. Right, even if it did, which again, we are not saying it even has a chance. If it did, you'd still understandably have people asking, you know, what could have been prevented by taking action sooner? None of this can be undone. But again, that's where we are right now. We're going to have to keep eyes on this.

Starting point is 00:23:44 But that, my friends, you beautiful bastards, is where today's show is going to end. But remember, you've got more just to click away. You've got my brand new podcast, In Good Faith, this week with MKBHD. Though also, I'm going to have another IGF episode out for you tomorrow. This time for the first time ever with a guest who is actively facing a federal indictment. And or you can watch the newest episode of crashing out with myself and Alex Perlman, and there the newest episode this week is going to be out Thursday. What a week it's going to be?

Starting point is 00:24:06 Thank you for watching. I love you, O Faces, and I'll see you right back here tomorrow.

The Philip DeFranco Show - The Tucker Carlson Nick Fuentes Ben Shapiro Situation Is More Important Than Most Democrats Realize

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