The Philip DeFranco Show - TRUMP CAVED ON EPSTEIN! But Here’s What’s Really Going On...

Starting point is 00:00:00 Donald Trump's now claiming that he wants the Epstein files release, but also the investigation that he ordered might stop that from happening And I guess there's a small technically non-zero chance that at one point he performed oral sex on Bill Clinton But starting with Trump's apparent 180 on the files you had him writing on social media last night that House Republicans should vote for a bill Requiring the Justice Department to release all documents and communications related to Epstein because we have nothing to hide and saying It's time to move on from this Democrat hoax perpetrated by radical left lunatics in order to deflect from the great success of the Republican party, including a recent victory on the Democrat shutdown. Right, and you then had Trump referring to newly launched investigations into who he described as various Democrat operatives, and he added, nobody cared about Jeffrey Epstein when he was alive, and if the Democrats had anything,

Starting point is 00:00:42 they would have released it before our landslide election victory. Let's start talking about the Republican Party's record-setting achievements and not fall into the Epstein trap, which is actually a curse on the Democrats, not us. Make America great again. And while Trump's dismissal at Epstein is a hoax, it's not anything new, his apparent support for the files being released, it's completely out of left field. Right, and don't forget it, Trump's been fighting tooth and nail to stop this release. Right, he's been calling anyone who wants this released, traitors, idiots. And just last week, he was still ramping up pressure on Republicans to vote against releasing the files. He even summoned Congresswoman Lauren Boer to the White House Situation Room to talk about her demand to release the files.

Starting point is 00:01:14 Right, and that coming as you had lawmakers releasing thousands of emails belonging to Epstein suggesting that Trump knew more about this convicted child sex offender's conduct than he let on even if he didn't participate. With what's been called one of the most damning messages being one where you had Epstein seemingly referring to sexual abuse of to rage girls and he wrote, Trump knew of it and came to my house many times during that period. He never got a massage. And that is in another email he wrote about Trump. Of course he knew about the girls as he asked Elaine to stop. And then you know beyond questions about abuse,

Starting point is 00:01:40 some of the emails raised questions about possible dirt that Epstein or others may have had on Trump. Right in one, speaking about Trump, Epstein claimed that he had the ability to take him down. And in a 2018 email that Epstein received from his brother, Mark? He was asked to question Steve Bannon about whether Russian President Vladimir Putin had the photos of Trump blowing Bubba and Dadding. You and your boy, Donnie, can make a remake of the movie Get Hard.

Starting point is 00:01:58 With many, the noting that Bubba was a nickname for former U.S. President Bill Clinton. Though that said, you've since had Mark responding in a statement saying, the emails were simply part of a humorous private exchange between two brothers and were never meant for public release or to be interpreted as serious remarks. And adding, for the avoidance of doubt, the reference to Baba in this correspondence is not in any way, a reference to former President Bill Clinton. Though also on the note of Bill Clinton, he's now one of the most prominent democratic figures being investigated by the administration. Right, and that goes back to Friday when you had Trump demanding of the DOJ investigate Epstein's involvement

Starting point is 00:02:28 in relationship with not only Clinton, but ex-T treasury secretary Larry Summers and LinkedIn co-founder Reid Hoffman, as well as the bank's J.P. Morgan Chase and many other people and institutions to determine what was going on with them and him. And then within just a few hours, you had Attorney General Pambandi announcing that she had given the case to the U.S. attorney in Manhattan. Writing attorney, Jay Clayton, is one of the most capable, entrusted prosecutors in the country, and I've asked him to take the lead. As with all matters, the department will pursue this with urgency and integrity to deliver answers to the American people. And you know, with that, I'll say that these newly released emails we've seen,

Starting point is 00:02:57 They've really only confirmed the extent of Epstein's connections to the rich, powerful, and well-connected even after he pled guilty to soliciting prostitution from a minor in 2008. Larry Summers, for example, the emails suggest that he regularly turned to Epstein as a confidant, even asking for his advice pursuing a woman described as a mentee. And then also, separate from the emails, you had a recent New York Times investigation finding that J.P. Morgan spent years supporting and profiting from Epstein while ignoring the warning sign. And so ultimately, you know, based on the emails and really everything else, you've got many saying that there are plenty of people in organizations that should probably be investigated. But also, it's not normal for one of those people to be the president, and then for that president to also direct the Justice Department to investigate only the ones that he perceives as his enemies. And so with all that, you kind of just have to throw out the idea that you have a DOJ that is independent. They prosecute cases on facts and law rather than just going after people that the president points a finger at. And making things smell even more is that this DOJ, Trump's DOJ, just four months ago, said that nothing in the Epstein files warranted further investigation.

Starting point is 00:03:52 But also notably with that, even if new investigations do not result in more charges, they might allow the judge. Justice Department to refuse to release any further files related to Epstein by claiming that they would negatively affect an ongoing case. And so that, it's exactly why you have Republican Representative Thomas Massey calling this investigation a last-ditch effort to actually prevent the release of the Epstein files. And on the note of Massey, not only, you know, has he been one of the Republicans most vocal against Trump on this issue, helped spearhead this campaign with Ro Khanna. But very notably, you had him saying yesterday that 100 or more members of his party might join him in voting to release the Epstein files despite Trump's previous

Starting point is 00:04:24 Opposition. Right, Massey is saying that he hoped to secure a veto-proof majority. You know, he and others trying to get more Republicans on board That's been a big part of what we've been seeing especially because even if the bill passes the house, which is expected to happen tomorrow It would still have to get through the Senate and there they need to snag at least 60 votes Meaning that if all 47 Democrats voted in favor, they'd still need 13 Republicans to join them as well That's before even having to consider you know would you have a veto-proof majority as well But with all that said you know, that's the news this part's my opinion I think it is very likely that before Donald Trump said yes vote for it that there was a veto-proof majority ready to to vote. Because Donald Trump, on this issue, has painted himself in the worst possible corner.

Starting point is 00:04:59 And it looks like he put himself in a position where really only one of two things could happen. One, he could stay publicly against the release of these files and Republicans would then vote against him and he'd look just so incredibly weak. Or he could publicly change his position and control whatever things he can control. But even there, I think he's kind of fucked himself. Because if they go the route of, well, we can't release these certain things because there's an ongoing investigation. For many, that'll just still look like he's trying to hide what's really in there. Or if what gets released is kind of a nothing burger, or it only goes after people that he perceives as enemies, or even largely just enemies and maybe a few Republicans here or there,

Starting point is 00:05:30 there'll be a meaningful amount of the public that thinks they're not actually releasing everything. This is kind of a light release. But I mean, you already see murmuring online of people saying, you know, he's fought against this so hard, we had the shutdown, he was dragging his feet, was that to buy time to really control what gets released. And the whole situation has just continued down this road where it feels like President Trump has made every decision to seem as guilty and as sketchy as possible. You know, one of the ways that he's come off the sketchiest and most guilty to a lot of his own MAGA supporters is the fact that he's gone after MAGA diehard Marjorie Taylor Green so hard. Right, Marjorie Taylor Green has been his loudest, most proud soldier.

Starting point is 00:06:03 Yet last week, over her saying, hey, we should release the Epstein files. We should try to make things affordable for Americans. He had, he labeled her a traitor. And while you agree in saying that what Trump was doing, it was contributing to death threats against her, Trump just doubled down again calling her a traitor in another post yesterday. You know, this back and forth between them and the potential real world consequences, it's become its own issue on its own. Because on Saturday you had green writing.

Starting point is 00:06:23 I am now being contacted by private security firms with warnings for my safety as a hotbed of threats against me are being fueled and egged on by the most powerful man in the world. The man I supported and helped get elected. Or with a noting that aggressive rhetoric has resulted in her getting death threats before, but she finds it even more disturbing now that the president is leading the charge. Saying as a Republican who overwhelmingly votes for President Trump's bills and agenda, his aggression against me, which also fuels the venomous nature of his radical internet trolls, many of whom are paid, this is completely shocking to everyone. A political-industrial complex and the toxic violent nature of American politics must end. Then yesterday she shared that she and her family members had received hoax, pizza deliveries, and there was a pipe bomb threat at the office of one of her construction companies. And again, saying that Trump's attacks were a dog whistle to dangerous radicals that could lead to serious attacks on me and my family.

Starting point is 00:07:08 And there, she included details behind why people would target her with hoax pizza deliveries, right noting it's called pizza doxing, and it's done to harass, intimidate, and threaten public leaders, and is viewed as a potential precursor to more serious threats. And then with all that, she added, I am not a trait. However, when the President of the United States irresponsibly calls a member of Congress of his own party, traitor, he is signaling what must be done to a traitor. Right, and that, it resulted in a lot of different reactions. Were you, people like Representative Jasmine Crockett, using it to talk about other violence that you believe that Trump's fuel?

Starting point is 00:07:36 Saying, do y'all now believe me when I say that Trump fuels hate against those that oppose him? Will faux news finally start to address that this man has created a permission structure of hate and violence? And adding, next time you want to run a story about me legally paying for security? Maybe run one on the insane amount of threats that I get that you are complicit in fuel it. Also, you had a number of people slamming MTG for speaking out now that she's a victim of Trump's ire. Where he's saying that she herself has spewed dangerous rhetoric that's fueled hate as well. Though there, she actually kind of addressed it when pressed about it on CNN. Obviously, any threats to your safety are completely unacceptable. But we have seen these

Starting point is 00:08:08 kinds of attacks or criticism from the president at other people. It's not new. And with respect, I haven't heard you speak out about it until it was directed at you. Dana, I think that's fair criticism and I would like to say humbly, I'm sorry for taking part in the toxic politics. It's very bad for our country. I am committed and I've been working on this a lot lately to put down the knives and politics. I really just want to see people be kind to one another. While some people, they were incredibly impressed by her apology there, you also have a number of people skeptical. And then you've also got people like Laura Lumer using all of this. to continue attacks against MTG on Trump's behalf.

Starting point is 00:08:53 Right, I mean, she's been posting about her nonstop lately, echoing all that Trump's claims that she's a traitor, saying she's going to hell, and arguing that her boyfriend should lose his White House press badge. In Lumer, she even claimed that MTG lied about some of the threats to her safety, saying that she contacted local police, and quote, they told me they never received a report today of a bomb threat of the business or residents of Marjorie Trader Green. Right, you could look at this and see that the president does have people batting for him

Starting point is 00:09:15 and this whole breakup, but you could also argue that this even proves MTG's points about Trump just inciting more attacks. As far as Donald Trump's response, he basically told reporters that he doesn't believe that MTG is facing any real threats. We'll see what happens. She said that her life could be a danger because of the rhetoric.

Starting point is 00:09:32 Her life is in danger? Who's that? Marjorie Taylor Green, she says. Marjorie Trader Green. I don't think her life is in danger. I don't think, frankly, I don't think anybody cares about her. With that, I'll say, you know, Green, she's not the only politician dealing

Starting point is 00:09:47 with threats potentially tied to Trump's And I say that because there's an Indiana lawmaker who Trump recently criticized that got swatted over the weekend. Right, yesterday you had Trump upset at Republicans in Indiana for not forcing a redistricting push. And so we wrote on Truth Social, very disappointed in Indiana State Senate Republicans led by Rhino Senators Rod Bray and Greg Good for not wanting to redistrict their state. Because of these two politically correct type gentlemen and a few others, they could be depriving Republicans of majority in the House, a very big deal. Senators Bray, Good, and the others to be released to the public later this afternoon should do their job and do it now. If not, let's get them out of office ASAP. And then, later in the day, you had officers in Indiana saying that they got an email claiming that harm had been done to people inside the home of State Senator Greg Good.

Starting point is 00:10:27 But then, when they responded, everyone was fine and it was just a swatting hoax. And so you had good then thanking the officers, but adding that this incident is quote, unfortunate and reflective of the volatile nature of our current political environment. But then also the governor of Indiana writing that these threats of no place in Indiana and officials are working to bring the criminals behind the attack on Senator Good to justice. But then, as far as Donald Trump's response, this morning he just continued to post things like, I will be strong strongly endorsing against any state senator or house member from the great state of Indiana that votes against the Republican Party and our nation by not allowing for redistricting for congressional seats. But for now, that's where we are. We'll have to wait to see how things continue forward. And in the meantime, I really would love to know your thoughts, opinions, and reactions here.

Starting point is 00:11:04 We're both on the Trump-Epstein situation at large and how we're going to see that play out as well as Trump lashing out at Marjorie Taylor Green and the fighting that we're seeing in the party right now. And then we're diving into even more in just a minute, but first let me say, have you ever left a meeting and you instantly forget everything. Except the part where someone else volunteered you for more work. Because yeah, same. And that's why I use today's sponsor Plod. Basically, my brain's external hard drive for every conversation that actually matters. Because yeah, my phone can record, sure, but he dies halfway, buzzes nonstop, and it turns every meeting into chaos. Now I have Plod Note Pro and the Note Pin, both portable, powerful, and smarter than any voice memo

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Starting point is 00:12:24 may be dismissed. Or with U.S. magistrate judge William Fitzgerald saying in a ruling today, the record points to a disturbing pattern of profound investigative missteps, missteps that led an FBI agent and a prosecutor to potentially undermine the integrity of the grand jury proceeding. With a judge going after the prosecutor's decision to review evidence that the FBI seized years earlier without securing a new warrant, as well as they're allowing an FBI agent to testify to the grand jury, even though this person may have been exposed to material shielded by attorney-client privilege. And that's in addition to the judge finding that acting U.S. attorney Lindsey Halligan made statements to grand jurors harmful to Comey's legal rights. But also, it's hard to blame Halligan for handling this case so poorly because she had no prosecutorial experience just a couple of months ago.

Starting point is 00:13:02 Right, before all this, she literally worked in real estate law and represented Trump in civil litigation. Where she only got this job after her predecessor refused to do Trump's bidding and bring a case against Comey despite the lack of solid evidence. Then Halligan had no such problem and quickly brought the case before a grand jury in September. And you would call me then pleading not guilty to the charges of making false statements and obstructing a congressional investigation. Right, and that specifically related to a testimony that he gave to the Senate Judiciary Committee back in 2020 about a previous leak to the press regarding an FBI investigation into the Clinton Foundation. Right, at the time of Comey's indictment, you had Attorney General Pam Bondi releasing a statement saying,

Starting point is 00:13:33 Comey stated that he did not authorize someone at the FBI to be an anonymous source. According to the indictment, that statement was false. And then adding, no one is above the law. But now the judge has ordered that grand jury materials be turned over to Comey's defense lawyers. And that's big because grand jury materials are typically protected by strict secrecy rules. And while the judge acknowledged this, saying this is an extraordinary remedy, he also said, given the factually based challenges the defense is raised to the government's conduct and the prospect that government misconduct may have tainted the grand jury proceedings proceedings, disclosure of grand jury materials under these unique circumstances is necessary to fully protect the rights of the accused.

Starting point is 00:14:06 And say, you know, we're going to have to wait to see what happens with Comey's case and what those grand jury proceedings reveal. But notably, you know, even if the case gets thrown out, Comey's just one of three Trump critics that have been hit with criminal charges in just the past few months. And that, of course, as many others have been threatened. And so for now, let me know your reactions, but there's definitely more to come on this front. But then next up in the news, we've got to talk about how Donald Trump is trying to pull every rabbit out of every hat that he can find to try to get this affordability crisis under control. Because in the recent off-year elections where the Democrats crushed,

Starting point is 00:14:33 the economy and the cost of living, they were at the top of voters' mind. So Trump, he's been testing different methods of winning back that ground. And one of them, and where we'll start, is with his signature move, lying. We have virtually no inflation. But so the truth is, as of September, annual inflation was at 3% and most economists actually expect that to go up even more as the tariffs reach consumers. I mean, you had the Yale Budget Lab last month, estimating that consumers were facing an average effective tariff rate of 18%,

Starting point is 00:14:57 the highest since 1934. And the data, it suggests that people are making the connection between the pain that they're feeling in their daily lives and the policies of the Trump administration. A recent NBC poll it found that only 30% of voters believe that Trump has lived up to their expectations for tackling inflation and the cost to live it. And that is only 27% of voters in another poll last month said that Trump's policies had improved the country's economic conditions. Right, we're now saying this report that as of June, past due balances to utility companies, that jumped nearly 10% over the same time a year before. And it's not just consumers and

Starting point is 00:15:24 everyday people, like nearly 9 and 10 CEOs told a recent survey that the tariffs will significantly impact their business performance over the next three years and adding that they'll increase the price of goods and services accordingly. But then also with this, Trump argues that even if you don't by his no inflation line? Whatever price increases that you're suffering, those are gonna be offset by a $2,000 tariff dividend check. When you add the fact that I'll be given back $2,000 or so to middle income people,

Starting point is 00:15:49 low income people, everybody put the rich. You also had Treasury Secretary Scott Besson trying to sell this on Fox News yesterday. $2,000 refunds to, and that would be for working families will have an income limit. And so at Trump saying this will happen sometime next year, and Besson clarifying, I guess,

Starting point is 00:16:05 that this will require the legislation from Congress, and he also added the caveat of, we'll see. Which I guess is also why you have many kind of skeptical that this is going to happen at all. You've got no shortage of people posting things like, the amount of grown adults that think they are getting a $2,000 tariff refund check is mind-blown. And I can't wait to add my imaginary tariff check to my imaginary Doge check and buy all that imaginary $2 gas. And you got all of that as beters-on prediction markets are also putting low odds on the

Starting point is 00:16:28 prospect of Trump actually making these checks happen. But that also feels like, that's like a hedge. Like if you bet that the checks don't happen and they don't, boom, you made some money. But if you make a bet that they won't and they do, then you just get less of that money? Also with that, I'll say this is not a recommendation. I think prediction markets especially related to politics is a rot. But back to the main thing, right? Even if these checks do go out, it raises the question, would they end up raising inflation

Starting point is 00:16:51 and worsening the problem that they're meant to help solve? Or because Trump and Republicans, they long claim that the COVID-era stimulus checks were inflationary. And so when a reporter asked him to address this apparent contradiction, you had Trump answering. I guess this is money earned as opposed to money that was made up. You know, that money was made up. Everybody but the rich will get this. That's not made up that's real money. That comes from other countries.

Starting point is 00:17:12 There are so many times where I hear him say something and I'm like, did I just have a stroke? But putting whatever that real money versus made up money argument aside, like, it is simply not true that tariff revenues come from other countries. Because for the million fucking time, tariffs are attacks on the American importers, not foreign exporters. But also, regardless of where it comes from, Trump says that he's also going to use the tariff revenue to pay down the national debt.

Starting point is 00:17:33 Which, by the way, is now over $38 trillion. trillion dollars in rising extra fast thanks to Trump's big beautiful bill. But also the thing about that promise is it's all but impossible. Through the first three quarters of this year, the Treasury Department has collected nearly $200 billion from tariff duties according to its September statement. So that likely wouldn't be anywhere close to enough to even cover the dividend checks, never mind the debt. Because according to the committee for a responsible federal budget, if the checks are structured like the COVID-era stimulus checks, they'd cost $600 billion.

Starting point is 00:17:59 You know, if thing A is actually supposed to pay for thing B, you know, maybe Trump could afford to pay out $2,000 checks every day two or three years, but that's also assuming that tariff revenue remains the same. And also you have to remember that we're having this conversation as lower courts have ruled that many of his tariffs are illegal and their future is now in the hands of the Supreme Court. And while we're waiting to hear from them, they did seem skeptical about Trump's legal arguments. But also apparently Trump doesn't need the court's encouragement anyway because he's removing some of the tariffs on his own. Because you had Trump lifting duties on

Starting point is 00:18:25 dozens of food products over the weekend including beef, coffee, tea, cocoa, spices, peppers, nuts, bananas, oranges, mangoes, avocados, coconuts, coconuts, quavas, limes, pineapples, tomatoes, and certain fertilizers. With beef and coffee being especially notable there, because not only do Americans inhale an ungodly amount of both every year, but prices on both are up 15 to 20%. So you know, for US stores and consumers,

Starting point is 00:18:46 lifting the tariffs could provide some relief, but also for Trump view of critics arguing it's a tacit admission of guilt. Because for months, Donald Trump has claimed that tariffs will not raise prices for Americans, but now he's lowering tariffs to lower prices for Americans. So instead, you had him focusing on different arguments like him explaining that tariffs are just not necessary

Starting point is 00:19:02 for these particular goods. goods. It's not competitive in this country, like tomatoes and bananas and things. We don't make them in this country. So there's no protection of our industries or our food products. You know, with that one, I can't help but laugh with him talking about bananas because literally people have been yelling at his administration about this, not just with bananas, but with a number of things.

Starting point is 00:19:22 But then also, too, you've got people saying, well, if that's true, then why the hell did you tariff them in the first place? And it's like he's finally come around to the basic point that critics have been trying to tell him for months, he's acting like, hey, I'm a genius because I'm solving the problem that I created. So anyway, you know, Trump's new argument is that, yeah, prices are a little up. Well, no, there's actually no inflation, but also there is, but really, there isn't. But also if there was, prices will come down. Yeah, for now we'll have to wait to see how things continue to play out, whether it be on the tariff front or the affordability front. And in the meantime, I think President Trump would like if you did not believe your eyes, your ears, or your bank account balance.

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Starting point is 00:21:24 Like I said last Friday, and I always try to be very sensitive about stuff with kids. What I do for my kids isn't necessarily what I'd say, you know, you need to do for your kids. Especially because so many of these kids are just different. I mean, even my own two, they are a testament to nature versus nurture. My oldest, when he was eight, he was very interested in the world and politics and all of that stuff. My current eight-year-old Carter, he's just, he's pumped about Spider-Man. And I'm like, hell yeah, brother. Let's talk about Stan Leafx.

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Starting point is 00:22:16 you need to check in with your kids, make sure they know that it is important. Check in with them, see if they need help learning, show them that it is important. If we want to help our kids, we need to work together. And we also had Jess Birch saying, you know, media literacy, it might have actually been a blind spot for us. Saying media literacy is so important and I think it's fallen by the wayside as we've gotten more into the age of technology.

Starting point is 00:22:33 I think adults unfortunately assumed if kids grew up with technology in their life from the start, then media literacy would be inherently developed, but it obviously isn't. We're failing our children by not having media literacy as part of our curriculum since media and the internet is such a large part of their lives growing up. Right, and then finally, there were also just a lot of comments

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The Philip DeFranco Show - TRUMP CAVED ON EPSTEIN! But Here’s What’s Really Going On...

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