The Philip DeFranco Show - Trump EXPOSED by Susie Wiles, Nick Fuentes Condemns Trump, & Nick Reiner’s Blood Covered Hotel Room

Episode Date: December 16, 2025

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We need to talk Rob Reiner updates and continued Trump fallout around it. And so, you know, starting with updates around the case itself, we've now gotten reports that Rob and his wife Michelle, they got into a very loud argument with her son Nick at a party at Conan O'Brien's home before leaving Saturday night. And of course, when their bodies were found the next morning, Nick was the prime suspect, hence why he's now reportedly in jail on suspicion of murder without bail

and we've seen photos of the moment that he was arrested. So reportedly he was at a subway station 15 miles from his parents' house. You could see the cops shoving him to the ground, handcuffing him. You had hotel staff reportedly finding blood all over the shower of his room, a trail of blood, cleaning off his bed and bed sheets covering the window. And so police, they said they'd present their case to the L.A. District Attorney, and prosecutors are expected to file charges by the end of Wednesday. But then all of that, it brings us to continued reactions.

And where we'll start here is just a quick refresher of Trump's post. Right, because he started his post almost seeming like a regular person before again revealing, hey, it's me, I'm a deranged monster. With him posting a very sad thing happened last night in Hollywood. Rob Reiner, a tortured and struggling, but once very talented movie director and comedy star, has passed away together with his wife, Michelle, reportedly due to the anger he caused others through his massive, unyielding, and incurable affliction, with a mind-cripling disease known as Trump derangement syndrome, sometimes referred to as TDS. He was known to have driven

people crazy by his raging obsession of President Donald J. Trump, with his obvious paranoia reaching new heights as the Trump administration surpassed all goals and expectations of greatness and with the golden age of America upon us, perhaps like never before. May Rob and Michelle rest in peace. And in case anyone met any doubts if that was official, the White House's rapid response account on X, also reposted it. And then, later on, when a reporter was like, hey, Mr. President, surely didn't really mean it like that, we saw this.

Do you stand by that post? Well, I wasn't a fan of his at all. He was a deranged person, as far as Trump is concerned. He said, he like he knew it was false. In fact, it's the exact opposite. That I was a friend of Russia controlled by Russia. You know, the Russia hucked. He was one of the people behind it.

I think he heard himself in career wise. became like a deranged person, Trump derangement syndrome. So I was not a fan of Rob Reiner at all in any way, shape, or form. I thought he was very bad for our country. And that, many, you know, it was jarring, not only because he called this tragically murdered beloved filmmaker deranged for having different politics on him, but also because he referred to himself in the third person as Trump. He was a deranged person as far as Trump is concerned.

Which I guess to stick with Trump's theme here, let me say, uh, Philip DeFranco thinks that Donald Trump is a disgusting fucking monster. Like many already, feel that and know that, but to see him handle a softball situation like this, to be like, wow, that was fucking horrific thoughts and prayers. But no, instead, he did his Trump thing. And so, while, you know, you expected the universal outrage and disgust from the entire left wing of the political spectrum. It's so hateful and vile. When I first saw it, I thought it was fake. My wife showed to me this morning. I was like, well, even for him, that seemed like too much,

but nothing is ever too much for him. You then also had people to the right of them, chiming it, where you the likes of Pierce Morgan sounding off. That just crosses every line of just basic human decency. But also, the most surprising reactions came from the MAGA-Rite, where with nearly all the big names with anything to say about this, expressing some form of discomfort or disgust, and I say nearly because, you know, some took a different tack, which we'll get into. But you know, you had the talking heads on Fox News, seemingly pretty much unanimous on Trump's post.

I have to say that for the President of the United States to take this family tragedy in which both Reiner and his wife were killed and say that it's because of Trump during I thought was well beneath him and beneath the office, and I think it would have been better if the president had made no comment. You also had several Republican lawmakers chiming in, including, as we saw yesterday, Marjorie Taylor Green, but also Mike Lawler, Stephanie Bice, and John Kennedy. I think when the president says these sorts of things, it detracts from his policy achievements. But still, it was crickets from most of the GOP, with Senator Thomas Massey even commenting. I guess my elected GOP colleagues, the VP and White House staff will just ignore it because they're afraid?

It's in response to that, the GOP leadership was basically like, yeah. Resent a Majority Leader John Thune declining to comment on Trump's pose when asked about it by reporters and House Speaker Mike Johnson essentially saying it's not worth his time. I don't do ongoing commentary about everything that's said by everybody in government every day. We're- The President of the United States. We're trying to bring down health care costs for the American people. Which, you know, embarrassing on its own, but I mean, even fucking Nick Fuentes had enough of a spine to criticize Trump for this. This is ugly rhetoric.

It is ugly, it is actually evil. Nobody deserves that. I don't care what their politics are, what they said on the internet or on television. Now, if Trump were actually doing what he promised to do, you could overlook the fact that he's a douchebag. Well, what's actually the pitch now? You go on true social and make a joke about Trump derangement syndrome?

It just goes to show there was never anything there. There was never a center. It was always empty. You thought at one time that Trump really believed in America, believed in people, you know, or something. I think he believes honestly in nothing. But with all that said, you did have a handful of people on the right actually taking Trump's side. Though, I'll say, in a few different ways, right?

First, you had the likes of Jack Posobia. Right, he's one of the people whose post claiming that nobody on the right was celebrating Reiner's murder, age like moldy cheese. And he desperately tried to save face with a follow-up post writing. Libs are trying to community note this with Trump's post. Where is the celebration in Trump's post? He isn't celebrating. He is warning. Then on a level of directness even higher than that, you had Trump advisor, Alex Brousowitz, writing.

I'm not going to participate in the fake outrage at President Trump for his response to Rob Reiner. Rob Reiner called for Trump to be arrested in charge with treason, a crime punishable by death. He was quite nasty toward the president, regardless RIP. And then finally, the most erect and unashamed of them all is the ghoul that is Laura Lumer. Who wrote, psychosis is a real thing. Rob Reiner had a level of TDS that likely exuded a level of craziness around those he spent time with. Many people who have crazy kids have psychiatric issues themselves. You'll notice a lot of celebrities of kids with addictions, trans kids, gay kids, spoiled kids, kids,

kids who commit crimes and kids who were total deadbeat losers because many were raised to have no accountability by parents who subscribed to hardcore liberalism. Trump is right. Reiner himself sounded insane when he would speak. Imagine how crazy his own kid was, on drugs. But then one last point I want to touch on with this news is something that's arguably in the same ballpark as Trump's post, but it's gotten far less attention. And that is the call for a mass expulsion of Muslims from the United States. Because after the anti-Semitic terror attack in Australia, you have two Republican congressmen, not even bothering to qualifying their target as radical Muslims, they're just attacking Islam as a whole.

And so you have Tommy Tuberville writing, Islam is not a religion, it's a cult. Islamists aren't here to assimilate. They're here to conquer. Stop worrying about offending the pearl clutches. We've got to send them home now or will become the United Caliphate of America. As well as Randy Fine saying, this has to stop. Diversity is not our strength. Diversity has become suicidal. Saying it is time for a Muslim travel ban, radical deportations of all mainstream Muslim legal and illegal immigrants, and citizenship revocations wherever possible. Mainstream Muslims have declared war on us.

The least we can do is kick them the hell out of America. And then adding, Islamophobia isn't real. Fear of Islam is rational. Wouldn't you know it? Just like the Trump Post, Mike Johnson office refused to comment on Superville and finds comments when asked about them by the Washington Post. But also, as someone pointed out, this kind of unabashed Islamophobia, it's not new. It's been festering for a long time.

Many saw it, of course, with Donald Trump as far back as 2015. Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on. And now more recently, he's called Somali immigrants garbage, advocated deporting, all of them and said that Ilhan Omar should be stripped of her citizenship

and kicked down. And also last month you had Representative Brandon Gill saying much of the same as Tuberville and find it. Now, with him writing, we imported Islamic terrorism in just the last few decades through our suicidal immigration system. It was a policy choice. The reality is that not all cultures are morally equal.

Islam is incompatible with our culture and our governing system. Radical Islamists seek to fundamentally destroy our way of life. Why would we allow them to immigrate here? Islamic ideology is no place in the West and its time our immigration system recognizes this. With then the House Freedom Caucus commenting on that post, true. But then also, even supposedly more moderate conservatives like Ben Shapiro seemed to suggest yesterday that Muslim immigration as a whole is dangerous. There are good people inside every religion.

The question, of course, is whether when you import an enormous number number of people of any particular religion that changes the culture of the country or whether it creates enclaves that are dangerous to the rest of the country. And of course, all of this despite the fact that Muslim groups and Arab governments, they widely condemn the violence in Australia and elsewhere. And of course, I mean, the guy who tackled one of the shooters was himself a Muslim. You know, for now, we're going to have to wait to see how this continues to play out. And of course, in the meantime, I'd love to know your reactions to everything that's going down. And then we're going to dive into even more in just a minute. But first, let me say, you know,

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fentanyl is a weapon of mass destruction. That is, Donald Trump has now claimed in his 221st executive order of his second term, which also just fun history fact means that he's now signed more executive orders in 2025 than during his entire first four years in office, a full one-third of which, by the way, have been challenged in court. Well, it's not clear yet whether this latest one's going to spark any legal action. It's definitely controversial. So specifically, this designates illicit fentanyl and its core precursor chemicals as weapons of destruction, and it claims that the potential for fentanyl to be weaponized for concentrated large-scale terror attacks by organized adversaries is a serious threat to the United States.

With it then, directing the heads of relevant executive departments and agencies to take additional steps to combat the drug. And that includes by telling the defense and attorney general to determine whether the threats posed by illicit fentanyl is enough to justify providing military resources to the justice department. And so this very much looks like the Trump administration's latest effort to provide legal cover for their lethal strikes on votes that it said without providing evidence or carrying drugs into the U.S., which also, on that note, the military carried out another three of those

strikes just yesterday in the Eastern Pacific, killing eight people and bringing the total death toll to at least 95. And that's also as they brought warships to the region, seized a Venezuelan oil tanker and been flying aircraft near Venezuelan airspace. Which, you know, I mentioned not only because it's part of Trump's pressure campaign on Venezuelan President Nicholas Maduro, but also because one of them may have almost caused a deadly accident last week. Or because last Friday, you had a JetBlue pilot reporting that a U.S. Air Force plane passed in front of them without broadcasting its position. Right. And they had this, conversation with air traffic control. They passed directly in our flight path. We had to stop or

climb. They're not painting. They don't have their transponder turned on. It's outrageous. 71112. Yes, I don't have anything on my scope. But there's been outrageous to be unidentified aircraft within our airspace. You are totally right. I apologize. If you can make a note of it, we almost had a mid-air collision up here. But, going back to Trump's designation of fentanyl as a WMD, it's not clear if and what kind of practical impact this order will actually even have. Ventanol is already illegal, and the idea that it's likely to be weaponized for concentrated, large-scale terror attacks is, at the very least, we'll call it contested. There is reportedly one documented instance of fentanyl being used as a bioweapon back in Moscow in 2002. There was a hostage crisis enduring that.

You had Russian security services releasing gas believed to contain and aerosolized fentanyl analog into a theater. And, you know, I guess it technically succeeded in killing the four. hostage takers, but it also resulted in the deaths of as many as 132 hostages. But nothing like that, it appears to have happened before or since. And well, in 2019, you know, you had the Center for the Study of Weapons of Mass Destruction at the National Defense University publishing report acknowledging the chemical weapon potential of fentanyl, it also said, it is not evident that there is any basis or need for or net benefit to officially designating fentanyl compounds as weapons of mass

destruction. And you would a professor at Carnegie Mellon University who researches drugs, crime, and terror, also arguing. I personally would prefer not to call every single thing that kills a large number of people a weapon of mass destruction. By those arguments, cigarettes would be weapons of mass destruction. Cigarettes kill more Americans every year than fentanyl does. Right, and so with that, we should also be clear about exactly how many Americans fentanyl kills. And you know, the answer, it's a lot. According to the CDC, it was around 48,000 people in the U.S. last year alone.

It's obviously a lot, but also it was a surprising 27% drop from the year before. But then also, it's a far smaller number than the numbers that the White House is using. And when Trump signed the order yesterday, he falsely claimed that two to 300,000 people die every year from fentanyl. And that as, you know, Trump has repeatedly claimed that every boat strike, and there have been at least 25 so far, saves 25,000 American lives. Right, which, you know, sounds crazy, but not when you compare it to back in April, way before the boat strikes even began. Pam Bondi made the just truly astonishing claim that the drug bust during the first hundred days of the administration had saved 258 million American lives, or roughly three quarters of the entire U.S. population. And you know, while I could end this on just kind of laughing about the stupidity of this administration's numbers, I do want to be very clear that all the evidence right now, it suggests that the White House has actually little interest in fighting overdose deaths.

It may even actually be making matters worse. But as far as the boat strikes, most experts say that the strikes will have little to no impact on overdose deaths. Largely, because if you do any fucking research into this, you learn that fentanyl doesn't come out of Venezuela and the drugs that do are largely heading to Europe. But this also is you have an expert on street drugs at the Cato Institute saying that he's worried that strikes are just going to encourage cartels to shift drug production away from cocaine and towards synthetic substances, including fentanyl, which is deadlier and easier to move, saying, all we're doing is making the cartels come up with more potent and powerful forms of drugs to smuggle. And then beyond that, there's the fact that Trump's pardoned and freed high-level drug traffickers, gang leaders, and corrupt officials

linked to cartels. He's reassigned law enforcement agents working on drug trafficking, including some from the DEA to help out with immigration enforcement, and he's cut staff and resources from key federal agencies specializing in drug policy, addiction treatment, and research. And so then with all that, you might have an uncle going, well, if the action targeting Venezuela isn't about fighting drug trafficking, what is it actually about? Well, of course, you could mention, as we've talked about before, the real aim seems to be getting rid of Maduro, but to take it even further, you have more and more people believing that maybe this is about oil. Venezuela, they have about 17% of the world's known oil reserves, nearly four times the amount of the U.S. And even though, you know, Trump hasn't mentioned oil in his public comments on the campaign, reportedly he has often mentioned it in private. And in talks this year, U.S. officials reportedly negotiated with Maduro on a,

potential deal to push Chinese and Russian oil companies out of Venezuela to open up a bigger role for American companies. And Maduro, he actually made an offer that Trump only rejected because advisors convinced him that Maduro just couldn't be trusted and was just biding time. Also, notably, Venezuela's main opposition leader who won the Nobel Prize and his voice support for Trump's violent, deadly, and likely legal boat strikes recently said in remarks at a business conference with Trump in attendance. I am talking about a $1.7 trillion opportunity. We will open up all upstream, midstream, downstream to all companies. And so once again, Again, it looks like a situation where you have the administration saying it's about one thing when really it looks more about another thing. But for now, we'll have to wait to see how this plays out. And then we're going to break down even more in a minute. But first, let me say, nothing humbles you faster than realizing one fun night out.

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And while she, over the course of Trump's first year back in office, gave 11 interviews with Chris Whipple. And while he published her comments in Vanity Fair, and when I was reading some of it, I was like, these were on the record conversation. Because a number of her statements, they come off like, why would you say that knowing that it was being recorded? So if Donald Trump, she says he has an alcoholic's personality, saying Trump has a view that there's nothing he can't do, nothing, zero, nothing. And saying because she had experience with her father who was an alcoholic and an absentee parent, she knows how to handle him. Or saying she's a little bit of an expert in big personalities. She then goes on to say Vice President J.D. Vance has been a conspiracy theorist for a decade. Instead of vans coming over to Trump's side, it was kind of a political decision, whereas Marco Rubio he kind of had to work his way through things.

Of Elon Musk, she said he's an odd, odd duck, as I think geniuses are. She also called him an avowed ketamine user, but the Times is reporting that she later told the Times that she didn't have any actual knowledge of that beyond his own statements. Regarding Donald Trump and Bill Clinton being in the Epstein file, she said, yes, they both are in them. It was also reportedly saying that there's no evidence that Mr. Clinton went to the island. And reportedly when asked if there was any incriminating information about Clinton in the Epstein files, she said the president was wrong about that. Right and then, regarding what Trump's been doing with Venezuela and blowing a boat, she said, he wants to keep on blowing boats up until Maduro cries uncle, and people way smarter than me on that, say that he will. Without appearing to make it clear that regime change, that's like, that's the real goal there.

Also, regarding Pam Bondi, she said, Pam essentially dropped the ball regarding the Epstein files, saying, I think she completely whipped and appreciating that that was the very targeted group that cared about this. First, she gave them binders full of nothingness, and then she said that the witness list or the client list was on her desk. There is no client list, and it sure as hell wasn't on her desk. Right, and all of this, it's kind of just the highlights. I recommend checking out the full article. But I will say now that it's been released, one of the people not a fan of this article is Susie Wiles herself. With Wiles tweeting this morning, the article published early this morning is a disingenuously framed hit piece on me

and the finest president, White House staff, and cabinet in history. Significant context was disregarded, and much of what I and others said about the team and the president was left out of the story. I assume, after reading it, that this was done to paint an overwhelmingly chaotic and negative narrative about the president and our team. Within much of the White House team also posting tweets and support, as well as it now being reported, President Trump defended White House chief of staff, Susie Wiles, in an exclusive interview with the Post Tuesday, saying she was right to tell Vanity Fair he is an alcoholic's personality in that he is full faith in Wiles to continue in her role. And so for now, really, only time will tell how things go from here.

Does this stir things up and we eventually see a fallout? Or do things calm and settle? and whatever needs to happen privately, gets handled privately, and then as far as the public version, it's all a united front. But then, next up with the news, AI is causing tons of things to get more expensive, and I'm not even talking about the software side of things. Which to be clear, many are finding it

as it'd be a waste of money as companies like Microsoft are finding out that no one wants AI all over their stuff, but also the hardware itself has had a huge ripple effect across so many things. Right, in many markets, electricity prices are skyrocketing. Also, if you're in the market for any kind of electronics, like pull the trigger sooner than later. And that, because we're already seeing those

prices go through the roof as companies shift all their sales to AI data centers rather than household consumers. Right. And the idea that tech companies are taking up so many resources from everyday people is so concerned that a handful of Senate Democrats actually announced a day that they're launching an investigation. And in this letter that they sent to the usual suspects, they said that they were worried that their AI data centers were using so much electricity that it forced utility companies to upgrade their grids. Which, you know, on the surface, that doesn't seem bad except, you know, the money it has to come from somewhere. It's not like Microsoft's just fronting that bill. Instead, utility companies just raise the rates for all.

all their customers. And we will say that's not universally true with some of these companies making deals with local utilities to try and get a bigger share for their increased usage. But figuring out exactly what that breakdown should be, it's proven to be hard. And interestingly, these data centers

weren't always bad for their local communities. In fact, one study found that as utility companies upgraded their infrastructure, it actually lowered costs or retail consumers overall because it was able to spread out the cost of upgrades that benefited everyone. Now that many of the cheaper, most cost-effective upgrades are already done and more still needed,

it's expected that the opposite's gonna hold true. And this need for built-up infrastructure for AI, I mean, it hasn't gone unnoticed by people either. But I just spoke to economists and best-selling author, Kyla Scanlan, on my In Good Faith podcast for about an hour, and she actually touched on this. When we think about AI, it's 40% of GDP growth, 75% of S&B 500 earnings. So we have staked the entire economy on this thing. But the problem that we're running into is the problem with expanding AI and having it potentially take all the jobs is not better models, it's energy. So AI is ultimately an energy race, and the U.S. decided that, like, you know, the sun was DEI or woke or whatever and has rolled back a lot of renewable energy projects that were very important to having AI be successful. And so I think that's what the U.S. is running into right now is that these huge data centers are straining grids.

They're causing electricity prices to go up. And it's like, sure, the models can be great, but I don't know if the grid can maintain it. Like, that is the number one risk. And then number two is China. And companies like Airbnb are choosing to use China's AI models because they're cheaper. So it's always going to be a price war at the end of the day. And it's always going to be an energy war. And right now, China's winning and both.

Because you can have all of these like pie in the sky plans, but you have to think about physical infrastructure. And the U.S. doesn't ever, ever. And so that's, I think, that could pop the bubble, that could make it so it doesn't take the jobs. And that's, those are the things I'm really paying attention to. You know, I just can't understate how much China has invested into its electrical grid compared to the United States and what an advantage it is. Right? They've actually been doing this for about a decade now to the point that it's the biggest in the world and it produces about twice the electricity that the United States does.

In fact, they have so much of it that their AI data centers are paying about half of what ours do per watt. And a lot of that growth that's due to China investing heavily into green and energies like solar, wind, and hydroelectric especially. Whereas the United States, especially under the Trump presidency, I mean, we're going in the opposite direction and cutting funding for a lot of those programs. That's just one way that AI is screwing consumers in the States. I mean, there's also the appetite for a computer memory

causing issues all over the globe. I mean, we're at a point where key electronic components are seeing 100% plus price increases in just a matter a month and that's likely gonna go up. And without getting to specific AI data centers need a lot of memory and RAM. You know, RAM, it's used by just about everything that computes. So computers, phones, consoles, smart TVs, appliances,

cars, our entire modern world. And, you know, AI companies, they now need so much of it that it's now a better deal for RAM manufacturers to just sell to them and ignore retail consumers like you or me. I mean, just look at Micron, one of the big three RAM manufacturers in the world. They announced just a few weeks ago that they'd be leaving the consumer market entirely. And now you've got Samsung warning that there's going to be such a massive shortage that RAM prices are going to spike 100% as they have no stock for normal consumers. And, you know, it's also expected that Samsung's going to announce in January that some of the

most popular and cost-effective hard drives are going to be impossible to get. Then, you know, add in the fact that most of these items, they're made overseas and face big tariffs under Trump, and the easy conclusion is that if you want some kind of electronic, it's better to get it now than later. You know, all of this in order to fuel and industry that really fully, if you take a deep dive into it, hasn't made a product that actually generates money. Right? Well, that's not to say that it never will. It really just puts an even bigger spotlight into what just a massive, massive bet this is for, yes, the United States, but also in other ways, much of the world. But that, my friends, is the end of today's Philip DeFranco show, but you've got even more to watch just to click away. You've got my brand new interview with Kyla Scanlan. I really love this one. She's great.

Right, so that's your new episode of the In Good Faith podcast. And or especially if you missed it, you can check out last night's Philip DeFranco show. There was a lot to dive into there. Whatever you do, let me just say, thank you for watching. I love yo faces and I'll see you right back here tomorrow.