The Philip DeFranco Show - Trump’s State Of The Union Was WORSE Than You Know & The Anthropic Pete Hegseth Situation is CRAZY

Starting point is 00:00:00 Last night, President Trump delivered a nearly two-hour state of the union address, and it won about as well as you'd expect. We're winning so much that we really don't know what to do about it. People are asking me, please, please, please, Mr. President, we're winning too much. We can't take it anymore. We're not used to winning in our country. There were shouting matches, a confiscated protest sign,

Starting point is 00:00:21 will the damn stand traps, and Medal of Freedom moments, and enough fact-checkable claims to really keep us here all week. But beyond the spectacle, there are real signs buried in the speech about where, both parties are headed into the midterms, and that is what we actually need to talk about. So let's start with one of the things that made this one memorable, and it wasn't the policy. When Trump asked the room to pledge that their priorities were protecting American people, not illegal aliens, Minnesota Representative Ilhan Omar just wasn't having it.

Starting point is 00:00:44 And enact serious penalties for public officials who blocked the removal of criminal aliens. In many cases, drug lords, murderers all over our country, they're blocking the removal of these people out of our country. And you should be ashamed of your saying. Well, maybe not clear in the moment, Omar was shouting, you have killed Americans, you are a murderer. And of course, she was reverencing Renee Good and Alex Prattie, who were two of her constituents who were shot and killed by Trump troopers earlier this year.

Starting point is 00:01:13 With Omar also later posting that Trump killed two of my constituents and called him a liar. And the reaction to this, it was split exactly how you'd expect. Democrats on the Homeland Security Committee backed her saying that ICE is killing U.S. citizens, and the coward in the White House has nothing. to say. Speaker Mike Johnson said that Omar and Representative Rashida Taleb were nearly ejected for heckling. And there was also the situation with Texas Democratic Representative Al Green, who stood in the center aisle holding a sign that read Black people aren't apes, which is a direct callback to Trump's post about the Obamas. With that,

Starting point is 00:01:38 you had House Majority Leader Steve Scalese swiping the sign on his way in and other Republicans trying to physically block it from the cameras. With Greene being removed early, but not before making his point. When you allow that level of racism to continue, when you tolerate it, you perpetuate it. I refuse to be a part of the perpetuation of this level. of racism. And this is why I wanted to confront him up close. And judging by the look on his face, he got the message. And also with this, some Democrats just not bothering to show up at all, about 30 members of Congress joined hundreds of people on the national mall for what they called the People's State of the Union, which was a counter rally featuring Joy Ann Reed,

Starting point is 00:02:11 Pennsylvania Representative Summer Lee, and Senator Chris Murphy. The Republicans, they were predictably not fans of the boycott. Democrats, meanwhile, are going to host, count them, five separate counter events, rallies of some sort, they call them. in lieu of tonight's address, it's shameful that they would boycott an address. We don't do that. Meanwhile inside, Trump was doing what Trump does. These people are crazy, I'm telling you. They're crazy.

Starting point is 00:02:37 We're lucky we have a country. With people like this, Democrats are destroying our country, but we've stopped it just in the nick of time, didn't we have? Also one of the more notable segments was when Trump turned to the assassination of Charlie Kirk. My great friend, Charlie Kirk, a great guy, great man. So last year Charlie was violently murdered by an assassin and martyred, really, martyred for his beliefs. Drabolso used the moment to call for national unity against political violence. In Charlie's memory, we must all come together to reaffirm that America is one nation under God,

Starting point is 00:03:14 and we must totally reject political violence of any kind. Which, I do think that it's worth noting, is an interesting position from a guy who just months ago posted that lawmakers who told military officers to refuse illegal orders were committing sedition, a crime that he suggested was punishable by death. And of course, that's in addition to all the other shit he has said recently and over the years. But then also, on a lighter note, you had Trump bringing out the U.S. men's hockey team fresh off of their gold medal win on Sunday. Right, and their invite ended ended up being kind of controversial because of the cash-whitel situation of it all. And while most of the team attended, you had five players who didn't, though their absences were reportedly unrelated to

Starting point is 00:03:47 the president. Though the women's team reportedly turned down to their invite entirely. But then one of the big moments with the men's team is that Trump announced the Medal of Freedom for the team's goal. And that was just one part of many places where Trump was kind of getting his Oprah on. With Trump handing out two Purple Hearts, two medals of honor and a Legion of Merit before the night was over. Now, as far as the speech itself, given that it was nearly two hours long, I cannot unpack every single claim, but there are standouts. Regarding a third term, he said, So in my first year of the second term, should be in my third term, but strange things happen. Which just reminder, no, no matter how many things the president says, which are untrue, he lost the 2020 election.

Starting point is 00:04:25 No matter how many times he floats it, presidents do not get third terms. That is the 22nd amendment. But then on tariffs, he said, And as time goes by, I believe that tariffs paid for by foreign countries will, like in the past, substantially replace the modern day system of income tax. It was basically everyone except the president, I guess, has figured out. Foreign countries don't pay tariffs. American importers do, and often those costs get passed on to the American consumers. And the idea that tariffs could replace the entire income tax system, according to experts, that's not even close to realistic. Also, on the economy, with Trump saying,

Starting point is 00:04:55 incomes are rising fast. The roaring economy is roaring like never before. A short time ago, we were a dead country. Now we are the hottest country anywhere in the world, the hottest. And with that, here's the reality of the situation. Inflation did hit a four-decade high under Biden in 2022, but it was already declining by the time that Trump took office. And as far as incomes, after-tax earnings rose just under a percent last year, which is actually slower growth than Biden's final year. So Trump's main economic strategy right now seems to be insisting that a boom is happening while almost all Americans don't feel it in their daily lives.

Starting point is 00:05:31 Oh, and he also claimed that he has secured $18 trillion in investments, which is a number that he's repeated multiple times without ever providing evidence. You've had many experts saying that is a figure that's either exaggerated, highly speculative, or both. Even the number on the White House is much lower, and it appears that it might include investments made under Biden. But then, moving on with the State of the Union on election fraud, you had Trump saying, I'm asking you to approve the Save America Act. To stop illegal aliens and others who are unpermitted persons from voting in our sacred American elections, that cheating is rampant in our elections. It's rampant. Though again, Donald Trump has never provided evidence of rampant cheating.

Starting point is 00:06:12 Even the Heritage Foundation's own voter fraud database, and this is a conservative source, includes only 85 allegations of non-citizen voting across two decades. But then, after Donald Trump finished his overly long, seemingly like just to set the record speech, he then had Virginia Governor Abigail Spanberger delivering the official Democratic response, and her strategy was clear, make it about your wallet. Tonight, as we watched our nation's lawmakers gather for a joint session of Congress, we did not hear the truth from our president. Is the president working to make life more affordable for you and your family?

Starting point is 00:06:46 Is the president working to keep American safe both at home and abroad? Is the president working for you? With Spanberger hammering tariffs, cost-to-living and health care access, along with calling out Republicans directly for enabling Trump? They remain unwilling to assert their constitutional authority to stop him. They're making your life harder. They're making your life more expensive. They're even making it more difficult to see a doctor.

Starting point is 00:07:13 And it appears that, you know, this is not just rhetoric. It's the playbook. You've got establishment Democrats pointing to Spanberger's double-digit victory in Virginia last November as proof that a disciplined cost-focused message, it just works, and they want to replicate that nationwide heading into the midterms. So there, on that topic, as I've done for about a year now, I'm a big believer in, you need different kind of Dems and different kind of areas. But, you know, zooming out on this whole situation, a big thing to consider is that Trump walked into that chamber with a 39% approval rate. Understand, that is lower than any president during their first state of the union. Well, of course, we're going to have to see what future

Starting point is 00:07:42 polling shows a week from now, a month from now. You're already seeing some headlines calling the speech inconsequential. You've got surveys showing that he's bleeding support among independence, and reports suggest that Republicans are staring down a serious voter enthusiasm gap heading into November. And while Trump's MAGA base is not going anywhere, the base alone does not win midterms, especially when Trump himself is not on the balance. And while again, specific races and specific locations are going to vary. Generally speaking, it looks like Democrats are betting that pocketbook issues are going to carry them and Republicans are betting that the culture war energy might hold them. So really one of the biggest questions is whether last night,

Starting point is 00:08:12 That state of the union actually moves voters, or we all just kind of watch two hours of political theater that changes nothing. Well, a lot's likely to go down before then, but we'll find out in November. Right, and then there's more we've got to dive into in just a minute, but first, let me thank a sponsor and say, you know, if your week's moving so fast, you're basically eating whatever's closest, for which let's face it, Doritos is not usually the best choice. This is for you. Because today's sponsor, Factor, it's not a meal kit. It's food that's already done. And more importantly, it's good. Factor delivers fully prepared, dietitian-approved, chef-made meals. You just heat, eat, and pretend you plan ahead. No chopping, no pans, no what's the next meal spiral? Like, when you have no time, it's the opposite of cooking.

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Starting point is 00:09:45 it is a systematic dismantling and rebuild, and we need to talk about it. So here's where we are. Since Trump took office, the administration has fired nearly 100 immigration judges, with dozens more retiring early or resigning. I mean, over 200 gone in total. Even accounting for new hires, the bench has gone from 726 judges to roughly 553. That's about a quarter of the entire system wiped out. And understand, this was not a slow restructuring. The very first judge that Trump fired was dismissed mid-hearing and escorted out of the building on the spot. I asked multiple supervisors.

Starting point is 00:10:12 I asked the chief judge of the United States and my supervisor why I was being fired. And they told me that they did not know why. She said that being removed like that, it sent shockwaves across the United States. And she's right, right? Because it's not just about her. It was a message. And today, 12 immigration courts have lost over half of their judges. Two courts have zero judges left.

Starting point is 00:10:31 And it's not just the bench. The DOJ's Executive Office for Immigration Review also gutted about 75% of its attorney advisors and over half of all court supervisors. Within 400 support staff none. So every remaining judge, already buried under hundreds or thousands of cases, just inherited the caseloads of everyone who got fired. It fired me without any warning nor any explanation. As each judge gets fired, those cases are redistributed.

Starting point is 00:10:53 The backlog gets longer. People have to wait longer for their hearings. And after their hearings, they have to wait longer for their decisions. Now here's where the strategy comes into focus, right? Because this isn't about shrinking the courts. It's about reloading them. And in fact, you had one of the fire judges saying it plainly, saying, you are telling every judge that has left that they better not be following the law or their conscience,

Starting point is 00:11:11 that they need to apply the law as you are interpreting it. And those replacements, they're being recruited through those deportation judge ads that I mentioned at the beginning. And understand that label matters because immigration judges are supposed to impartially consider each case, which could mean deportation, but could also mean granting asylum or legal status. Calling them deportation judges, it's like calling police officers deadly force officers or trial juries, conviction juries. They're telling you what the outcome is supposed to be before the case even starts. Or as a Syracuse University immigration analyst put it, the label declares that the position requires not adjudication but preordination.

Starting point is 00:11:41 Effectively turning courts into deportation factories and judges into mindless functionaries. And the person that's running this hiring spree is Darren Margolin. Trump's picked, had the executive office for immigration review. He's actually a former immigration judge who says that he retired in early 2024 at a disgust with the Biden administration, claiming that he felt like, and this is a direct quote, a co-conspirator in treason. He also believes that there are 25 to 30 million undocumented immigrants in the country, which is at least double the best estimates from the Pew Research Center. And so that's the lens which these new judges are being selected.

Starting point is 00:12:08 And so far, Margoleyn says he's received around 1,700 applications. And while he hasn't said how many have been hired, the first cohort are reportedly starting by the end of this month. And all of this is he's also pushing to limit the appeals process on deportation orders, meaning that once the decision comes down, there'd be fewer ways to challenge it. So with all this, you know, taking a step back and looking at the full picture, we're in a situation where if you're an immigrant in the system right now, ICE agents may ambush you outside of a courthouse after a routine check-in.

Starting point is 00:12:30 You have posters in the lobby of immigration buildings, literally encouraging people to plead guilty and self-deport. and now the judge deciding her case may have been specifically recruited not to weigh the facts, but to deliver a predetermined outcome. As far as the Trump DOJ's response to all this, you had a spokesperson telling NPR that the administration is, quote, restoring integrity to our immigration system after what they called four years of de facto amnesty under Biden. But that, as you have many critics and experts saying, what's actually happening is the

Starting point is 00:12:54 opposite of integrity. It's the removal of independence from a system that only works if judges are free to follow the law, not a mandate. And whether you support strict or immigration enforcement or not, the question everyone should be asking is, do you want a court system? outcome is decided before you walk in the door. Because that's not following the law, that's not pursuing justice, that's not enforcement, that is theater. Right. And actually, while it's not theater, but instead a very consequential drama, we got to talk about how the Secretary of Defense

Starting point is 00:13:17 just gave one of the biggest AI companies in the world in ultimatum. Drop your ethical guardrails and let the military use your tech however it wants or will force you to. That's now what's being reported from multiple outlets after what's been described as a heated meeting between Pete Hegseth and the CEO of Anthropic. And the implications here, it goes way beyond one company and one contract. For some background, here, Anthropic. The company behind the AI model, Claude, is one of the several AI firms that have started working with the military. In fact, last summer, they entered into a $200 million pilot contract with the Pentagon. But then in January, you had Hegset issuing a memo directing

Starting point is 00:13:46 AI companies to remove restrictions on their technology and give the military the ability to use these tools, however it sees fit. And the argument was that the military should be able to deploy these systems to whatever extent it wants and only be limited by their understanding of the law and not by the guardrails of the companies have built in or the ethical lines of the companies have drawn. And so as a result, the various AI companies working with the Pentagon have had to renegotiate their contracts. And according to sources at the department, Elon Musk's XAI had no problem handing the government,

Starting point is 00:14:09 a blank check, essentially. Other companies, including Google, are reportedly getting close to similar deals. But Anthropic has reportedly been more cautious, agreeing to loosen some restrictions but insisting that certain gar rails need to stay in place. And in fact, for months, Anthropic CEO has maintained both publicly and private meetings

Starting point is 00:14:23 that there are two things that the company just will not allow its technology to be used for. Domestic mass surveillance and autonomous weapons that operator may kill decisions without a human in the loop. He's called those uses, illegitimate and prone to abuse. And according to sources, he reiterated exactly those sticking points in yesterday's meeting with Pentagon officials. But then Hegzeth's response was to give an ultimatum, agree to the DOD's demands by this Friday or face the consequences.

Starting point is 00:14:43 And as far as what those consequences actually look like, the reporting there has been a little mixed. Some outlets say that Hegset threatened to both designate Anthropic as a supply chain risk and invoke the Defense Production Act, which allows the government to effectively seize control of a company's products. You also have other outlets reporting that it's more of an either or between those two options, which actually kind of makes more sense when you understand what each does. Redesignating a company as a supply chain risk is essentially blanche. It's blacklisted, cutting it off from future government contracts and requiring the government to stop using its products entirely. And then invoking the Defense Production Act, it does the exact opposite. It would force Anthropic to let the military use its technology regardless of what the company wants.

Starting point is 00:15:14 So one option is essentially will never work with you again, and the other is you'll work with us whether you like it or not. So two very different levers or I guess maybe more accurately Hammers. And then on top of that, there are also reports that Peg Seth threatened to cancel the existing $200 million contract outright, though it's unclear how that would fit into the other scenarios. Now with all this, you have Pentagon officials telling reporters that this ultimatum has nothing to do with that. Anthropics guardrails against surveillance and autonomous weapons. But really, not a lot of people trust that. And in fact, you have many experts saying that's exactly what this is. It's an attempt by Trump and his people to punish a company for setting basic ethical standards and refusing to blindly come to heal. And that's also what makes the story, the snooes, the situation, bigger than just one contract negotiation. Because the question it raises isn't really about anthropropic. It's about whether any tech company can maintain ethical boundaries when the government has the legal tools to simply override them. We're in a moment where the Trump administration's pro-AI agenda is apparently too aggressive for the literal AI company's building. the technology. And if a firm can be threatened with government seizure of its products, we're saying, we don't think AI should make kill decisions without a human involved, that should concern everyone, regardless of where you stand on AI or defense policy. But for now, we're going to have to wait and see how this plays out by Friday, but it is definitely one, it is important to watch. This is something that's gotten some attention, but it deserves a lot more. But the next step from that, and actually,

Starting point is 00:16:23 finally today, I've got two announcements and a final piece of news we need to talk about. The first thing, if you're in the New York City area, you happen to be going to on Air Fest in Brooklyn. We're going to be there on Thursday, and by we, I mean, Alex Proman and I. We're going to be doing a live, moderated Q&A Thursday morning talking about crashing out, the podcast space, my show, pretty much anything in front of creatives, fellow podcasters, and industry folks. If you work in media, you're a business leader creative, or you know, you just like to hear interesting things being talked about. We'd love to have you. And again, it's Thursday morning.

Starting point is 00:16:49 It's at on Air Fest at the White Hotel in Williamsburg. We're taking over at the sixth floor lounge in the morning. So it should be great people, great views, a great time. But also, I want to say if you're a fan of this show or you're a fan of crashing out, text me at 813. 213-4-423, right, join the text line. Because I can't give you exact details yet, but this will not be the last time we're in New York City in the near future.

Starting point is 00:17:07 In fact, maybe we'll be coming to a city near you. But who knows? Who knows? Well, the people on the text line will know. But then the other announcement is a congratulations, and that's congrats to Paul M. Seek's latest weekly winner who just scored $500 in tickets to see Miami versus Notre Dame football in the fall. For the rest of y'all, that's right.

Starting point is 00:17:22 Seekeek is still giving away $500 in tickets and you should definitely answer today if you haven't already. I mean, you could be the next winner and snag $500 towards seeing a favorite artist, sporting event, or play. There's like over 70,000 events to choose for it. And all you got to do is add code to Frank go to your seat geek at profile for a chance of the weekly $500 prize, no purchase necessary. With that said, the final thing that we have to talk about today is that 15 states just sued the Trump administration over gutting the childhood vaccine schedule. And it's happening on the exact same day that the Senate is grilling Trump's pick or search in general, a wellness influencer who repeatedly

Starting point is 00:17:50 refused to say that vaccines don't cause autism. We need to talk about both of these things, because together, they paint a pretty alarming picture of where U.S. public health is headed. So as far as the lawsuit, yesterday, a coalition at Democratic-led states filed suit asking a judge to roll back the CDC's decision last month to stop recommending six key childhood immunizations. Hepatitis A, hepatitis B, flu, meningitis, RSV, and rhodovirus. With that decision, shrinking the recommended childhood vaccine schedule from 17 to 11. Instead of encouraging every child to get these shots, the new CDC guidance says that they should only go to high-risk kids or when a doctor specifically recommends them. And so with all this, you have the lawsuit alleging that RFK Jr. bypassed the established advisory committee and skirted the legal framework that's been used to make vaccine recommendations for death. And it also claims that the changes weren't based on any scientific evidence.

Starting point is 00:18:30 Instead, relying on comparisons to countries like Denmark, which experts have pointed out as nationalized health care and a population smaller than New York City. So not exactly apples to apples. And the lawsuit also targets RFK Jr's decision to fire all 17 members of the Vaccine Advisory Committee and replace them with vaccine skeptics, calling that move illegal. And this isn't even the only legal challenge. A separate coalition of public health organizations has also sued to reverse the guidance. But again, what makes this timing striking is that as these lawsuits are piling up, the Senate was simultaneously holding a confirmation hearing for Casey Means, Trump's pick for Surgeon General, the nation's top doctor.

Starting point is 00:19:01 Now Means is a medical doctor, which is more than you can say about RFK Jr., but she also dropped out of her residency and doesn't have an active license to treat patients. Instead, you have this person who built her public profile as a wellness influencer and entrepreneur largely by casting doubt on the broader medical system, right, promoting raw milk, disparaging birth control, and most notably expressing skepticism about vaccines and spreading the debunk claim that they're linked to autism. That last point was the focus of today's hearing with Senator Bill Cassidy, chair of the Senate Health Committee and a physician himself, warning means that the surgeon general has a responsibility to fight vaccine skepticism, not fuel it. And while you had means,

Starting point is 00:19:32 repeatedly insisting that she is not anti-vax, her actual answers told a different story. When pressed by multiple senators, including Cassidy, she repeatedly refused to explicitly say that vaccines don't cause autism. Do you believe that vaccines, whether individually or collectively, contribute to autism? Senator Cassidy, you're a physician, I'm a physician. The reality is that we have an autism crisis that's increasing. And this is devastating to many families. And we do not know as a medical community what causes autism. The administration has just committed a huge amount of funding to look at the exosome of all environmental factors that could be contributing to autism. And until we have a clear understanding of why kids are developing this at higher rates, I think

Starting point is 00:20:19 we should not leave any stones unturned. It also wouldn't directly answer whether she'd encourage parents to vaccinate their children against measles, even as Cassidy pointed out, that children have died from the disease during outbreaks at surge since Trump took office. We're on the verge of losing our measles elimination status. Would you encourage other mothers to have their children vaccinated against measles with the MMR vaccine? Like you, I'm a physician. I believe vaccine saved lives. I believe that vaccines are a key part of any infectious disease's public health strategy. And I would, would work with you, the CDC, then IH, ASIF, FTA.

Starting point is 00:20:57 But would you encourage mothers to vaccinate their children with the MMR vaccine, seeing how we've had children die and this outbreak in South Carolina? I'm supportive of a vaccination. I do believe that each patient, mother, parent needs to have a conversation with their pediatrician about any medication they're putting in their body and their children's bodies. Would you encourage her to have her child vaccinated? I'm not an individual's doctor, and every individual needs to talk to their doctor before putting a medication in their body.

Starting point is 00:21:24 I absolutely am supportive of the measles vaccine, and I do believe vaccines save lives and are important part of the public health strategy. Means also wouldn't commit to encouraging Americans to get flu vaccines either, shots that prevent millions of illnesses and save thousands of lives every year. We've had a tough flu season this year.

Starting point is 00:21:40 Would you, as past surgeon generals have, encourage Americans to get vaccinated with the flu vaccine? At the risk of sounding repetitive, I do think it's very important as a physician and to rebuild trust in public health to make sure that patients are encouraged to have informed consent with their doctor before getting any medication. I believe vaccine save lives.

Starting point is 00:22:06 I believe they're an important part of public health. I also do not want to not encourage patients to have a conversation with their doctor. So, you know, here's where we are, the administration gutted the vaccine schedule without scientific basis. RFK Jr. replaced the advisory committee with skeptics. Courts are now being asked to intervene.

Starting point is 00:22:20 And the person about to become America's top doctor, cannot bring herself to say that vaccines do not cause autism, a claim that has been thoroughly, repeatedly, definitively debunk. And despite all of that, means is almost certainly going to be confirmed. With the Senate, it's Republican-controlled right now. And while a handful of GOP senators have pushed back on the administration's vaccine stance, the odds that enough of them are actually going to vote no, they're slim. You know, these aren't just some simple disagreements about some hypotheticals. The real-world impact, it's not abstract here. Neasles outbreaks, they're already happening. Parents, they're already second-guessing routine immunizations. And the people who are supposed to

Starting point is 00:22:52 be guiding the country through public health decisions are either unable or unwilling to state basic medical facts out loud. And hey, even though I and we on the show, we do a fuck ton of research, we also talk to a lot of experts. What I would advise you to do is talk to your pediatrician, the previous CDC schedule, the one fact by decades of research and scientific consensus, it is still the gold standard. And your doctor can walk you through what's recommended for your child regardless of what the current administration is saying. And as far as if you're wanting to do something politically, you want to push back that way, you can contact your senators, especially if they sit on the Health Committee.

Starting point is 00:23:21 And or you can try to support organizations like the American Academy of Pediatrics and the Immunization Action Coalition that are actively fighting to preserve evidence-based vaccine policy. But then, my friends, you beautiful bastards, is the end of your Wednesday, Philip DeFranco Show dive into the news. And today, actually, you have just so much more a click away, whether you want to watch that brand-new podcast of crashing out with myself and Alex Perlman that just came out today. Or if you want to do a little catch-you-missed last night's Philip DeFranco Show, I got you covered as always. Thank you for watching. I love yo faces and I'll see you right back here tomorrow. Don't you tell me this is unprecedented time, motherfucker. I'm a millennial.

Starting point is 00:23:52 I live through too many goddamn unprecedented times. Comey, you were in it. You could have done all this stuff you said, and you didn't. I'm sure the Kalshi bats are already in. Let's see, what's the over under 82? Put it at 81. I'll get out hard. I'll get out hard at 8101.

Starting point is 00:24:05 He just fastballed that star David on him. He's like, go ahead.

The Philip DeFranco Show - Trump’s State Of The Union Was WORSE Than You Know & The Anthropic Pete Hegseth Situation is CRAZY

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