The Philip DeFranco Show - WHO IS LYING?! Spotify Wrapped ICE Scandal, TPUSA Challenges Candace Owens, & Today’s News

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Starting point is 00:01:10 Welcome back to the Philip DeFranco show you daily dive into the news. I hope you have a fantastic Thursday. And I just wanted to start today's show by saying, thank you. Over the last 48 hours, I've just been inundated with emails and stories and tweets and just everything of people sharing their YouTube recaps and their Spotify wrapped, which is actually one of the stories today. It's been wild and heartening not only to see, you know, how the Philip DeFranco show, in good faith,

Starting point is 00:01:35 crashing out is among many of y'all's top shows and podcasts, but also just the sheer number of minutes and hours you allow me into your lives. It's one of those things that you know that it's happening, but like just seeing the numbers. It's crazy. So I know I normally just dive into the news, but I just wanted to say thank you for being a part of just this weird thing

Starting point is 00:01:55 that I've done for about 20 years now, whether you're new here, you've been here for a few years, or even more than a decade. All that said, though, we have a lot that we need to talk about today, so I'm going to hit you with some nostalgia, and then we're just going to jump into it. Candice Owens is crazy and spiraling. That was the general consensus from y'all in the comments yesterday when we talked about this whole Candace Owen situation. We also now have updates to the whole situation because Turning Point USA has thrown down the

Starting point is 00:02:24 gauntlet, at least according to Candice Owens. Right after nearly three months of speculation and wild allegations following the death of Charlie Kirk, including what appear to be insinuating that tons of people in the group that he founded were somehow in or involved with it, Turning Point USA has responded to Candace Owens. With Blake Neff, the producer of the Charlie Kirk show, jumping on during yesterday's episode, to list some of the accusations that Candace has thrown at them in recent weeks and dispute them. Candace has effectively tarred everyone here with complicity in Charlie's death by repeatedly saying he was, quote, betrayed by, quote, everyone.

Starting point is 00:02:58 She has said Charlie's murder, quote, had to be approved by Charlie's friends, and then suggested those friends might have her murdered too for, quote, knowing the truth. He then went on to say that their silence up to this point has been about respecting Charlie's friendship with Candace, as well as him saying that it was to adhere to his rule of not feeding the trolls, right? Generally saying they didn't engage because they didn't want it tovert energy or attention away from their mission to give air to Candace's insanity. But then with that, you would Blake saying after weeks of their inbox being flooded,

Starting point is 00:03:24 with accusations of cowardice or complicit agreement and demands to respond, they decided to say something. Specifically, their plan is to host a live stream and go through points that are being brought up against Charlie's family, friends in the TPUSA organization, and then respond to them. And they even expressly invited Candace to take part in that live stream in person in Arizona. Right. Then Candice, in our latest episode, readily agreed to that. Have you no shame, we're going to find out you can pick the place, you can pick the time. I say we do it tomorrow. We don't need to plan for this. We don't need lawyers in between us, lawyer statement. It's not how I roll, okay? I don't care about any of that. I want it to be

Starting point is 00:03:58 authentic. Like I said, you can take the money. We can raise money live for this conversation. That is how badly the world is demanding it. So I accept it with whistles and bells, everything I fully accept. I say, let's do it tomorrow. Also, in addition to that, you had Candace going through Blake's response to our allegations. She has suggested Charlie's security team intentionally denied him first aid after the shooting to ensure that he died. When you say suggested, it means that they are interpreting my words. What I said is another fact. They did not issue him first aid.

Starting point is 00:04:32 When he fell down, there was nobody who pulled out any gauze and tried to stop the bleeding. And they've admitted to that in a sit-down with Sean Ryan. Brian Harpole said it was because of the severity of the injury. I'm sorry, again, that we noticed something that stood out as unusual, given the expertise and the amount of money that he was paying. that supposed to be an elite team. And then Candace also accused Blake and TPP USA of lying. She has accused us of lying about Charlie wanting Erica to take over for him if he died.

Starting point is 00:05:07 Never happened. That is not a quotation. That is just them saying that. So let's keep rolling. But also with this, you have some saying, you know, because Erica is now the head of TPSA, the people interpret any attack on the organization as an attack on her. With all that said, for now, we have to see. what's going to happen with this live stream, which apparently is going to be December 15th,

Starting point is 00:05:27 and also what's going to happen in the lead up to it. For some wondering if TPUSA will end up pushing or canceling it, others wondering if Candice is actually going to show up. Especially as in response to TPUSA's date announcement, you had Candice saying, kind of weird how you didn't email or call me to ask about times or availability and chose to instead tweet this confirmation out at midnight. Why am I learning about this on X? Before then, going on to say that she can't do in person on the 15th and noting that it was, according to her, deliberately scheduled for the same time she does her live podcast. But even still, she offered to cancel her show that day and appear remotely. Which also, on that note, a lot of Candace's fans are kind of concerned. Many

Starting point is 00:06:02 asking why TPUSA is so adamant that Candace show up there in person. It's saying that they could do this digitally. They could probably do it then sooner if they did it digitally. Some even seeming genuinely concerned about Candace's safety. For those who have been watching and or on this ride with me, what are your thoughts here? But then next up today, we've got to talk about how Secretary of War Crimes beat Heggseth is back in hot water. Right, because he put troops at risk by sharing sensitive military information on signal. And I know some of you all are like, yeah, Phil, we know, we've talked about it. You getting Trump brain on us, Phil?

Starting point is 00:06:30 But no, or at least probably not, maybe. I don't know. But that's unrelated to the here and now because the reason we need to talk about this today is because that is also now the finding of a months-long inquiry by a Pentagon watchdog, which produced a classified report that was sent to Congress on Tuesday night, and an unclassified version was released publicly today. And the case you need it, right? This all goes back to March when Heggseth and other top officials were discussing

Starting point is 00:06:49 plans for U.S. airstrikes against Houthi rebels in Yemen, not in a secure conference room, not using encrypted DoD communication systems, or rather on the commercial messaging app signal and group chats including Heggseth the wife, brother, and personal lawyer as well as editor of the Atlantic Jeffrey Goldberg. And you had Hegset sending precise information about aircraft, targets, and timing. And I mean, so specific that you literally had him writing, this is definitely when the first bombs will drop. So, of course, I mean, you had experts and current and former officials slamming this as an

Starting point is 00:07:14 unacceptable security breach. With acting Inspector General Stephen Stevens even then launching what was described as in evaluation, notably, and responds to her request from Roger Wicker and Jack Reed, respectively, the top Republican and top Democrat on the Senate Armed Services Committee. But then with that, over the past several months, Hexeth reportedly only handed over a few of his signal messages. So as a result, the IG actually had to rely mostly on screenshots of the chat from the Atlantic. Also, Hexeth reportedly refused to sit down for an interview with investigators.

Starting point is 00:07:39 We're agreeing only to provide a written response, and then in that response, he claimed that his defense secretary he had the authority to declassify information, which the IG said is true. That said, it is not clear whether he has. had declassified information in the chat by the time it was shared, which interestingly, the IG just did not determine. Though also notably, he found that the plans disclosed by Hegeseth were actually taking from a U.S. Central Command document that was marked classified at the time. And so then even with all of that, there is another question that remains.

Starting point is 00:08:05 And that is that even if Hexseth has the ability to just declassify information at will, why would he declassify this? Right, because the IG also found that if a foreign adversary got hold of the intelligence shared in that chat, it would have endangered both U.S. troops and the mission at large. Beyond that, the report details how he failed to preserve those communications as required under federal law. And it unsurprisingly concludes that Hegseth violated Pentagon policies about using personal phones for official business.

Starting point is 00:08:28 It even detailed how Hegseth used signal from his office in the Pentagon in an area where personal devices aren't allowed by having staff hardwired the app so he could access it without physically having his phone. But with all that, despite the alarm bells blaring, I can't even hear myself. The Trump administration, they're trying to play this off as a win. with the Pentagon spokesperson claiming the reports finding absolved Hegseth of any wrongdoing, saying the Inspector General Review is a total exoneration of Secretary Hegseth and proves what we knew all along.

Starting point is 00:08:54 No classified information was shared. This matter is resolved and the case is closed. But of course, for many who their news diet isn't being baby-birded propaganda, they're not happy with or agreeing with that assessment. Especially since this is coming as Hegseth is under pressure, even from many Republicans over the administration's campaign to strike boats allegedly carrying drugs to the U.S. from South America, which to many is a reason.

Starting point is 00:09:15 reasonable concern. Because those strikes, among other things, according to experts? One, they're just probably illegal. Two, they're actually unlikely to have an effect on the drugs coming into the country. And then three, if reason reporting for the Washington Post is to be believed, Hegset kicked all of this off with an order to kill everybody, which allegedly led to a follow-up strike aimed at killing two survivors clinging to the wreckage created by the first strike. A move that military experts say could constitute a war crime. It was far as that second strike, you have the White House defending him, saying that it was legal, downplaying Hegseth's involvement, and claiming that it had actually been meant to take out the boat, not the

Starting point is 00:09:45 the remaining crew. For now, I'll have to wait to see if that or any of the fallout from Signalgate actually results in anything meaningful. There is pressure there. There are people that normally kind of tow the line that seem concerned and trying to get more information, but we really don't live in a world where I would hold my breath in anticipation of people doing the right thing or even their job. But that's also now where the Hegg-Seth-connected news ends because the New York Times is now suing the Pentagon. Or with him accusing the Pentagon of violating the constitutional rights of journalists by implementing restrictions on those covering the country's military. Because a few

Starting point is 00:10:15 months ago, you had Hegset demanding that reporters sign a 21-page document agreeing to various new rules or else lose their press credentials and access. And you then saw most major news organizations, including Fox News and Newsmax, condemning the policies infringing on the freedom of the press, surrendering their badges, and walking out of the building rather than sign. Right. And then, they were replaced by the best of the best. And by that, I mean, pro-Trump influencers that are more than happy to kiss the ring. And so that included the likes of Laura Lumer, Tim Poole, and fucking Mike Lindell, the pillow guy. He's got his own news thing, apparently. Which I don't even know if it would be appropriate to be like, news thing, unless it's maybe also spelled in wingedings. And with that, only now that she has a friendly press audience, as Pentagon Press Secretary Kingsley Wilson, held what was reportedly her first on-camera press brief. And that happened just a couple of days ago, and just to give you an air of what the hell this is looking like, among those who were asking her questions, was Matt Gaith.

Starting point is 00:11:06 For the former Republican congressman who faced all sorts of allegations and is now credentialed to cover the Pentagon for One American News. But, you know, with all that, going back to the law, you have the New York Times saying that the First and Fifth Amendments were violated. With one key argument being that under the new policy, reporting any information not approved by department officials could lead to punishment, regardless of whether such news gathering occurs on or off Pentagon grounds, and regardless of whether the information at issue is classified or unclassified. And then getting even more specific, the suit points to one provision of the policy that enabled

Starting point is 00:11:34 the Pentagon to deem a journalist a so-called security or safety risk. And this, quote, based solely on a journalist or news organization's receipt, publication, or solicitation of any so-called unauthorized information, regardless of, of secrecy classification. And then with that, it also argues that lawful, routine news gathering techniques, like asking questions of government employees and interviewing them for stories,

Starting point is 00:11:52 could be considered solicitation under the new policy, basically making their work impossible. And with that, you've had no shortage of press organization showing support. And then, as far as the Trump administration, at least as I'm recording this, they've been largely quiet, though you did have a Pentagon spokesperson saying,

Starting point is 00:12:07 we are aware of the New York Times lawsuit and look forward to addressing these arguments in court. And yeah, as do why. And so yeah, it's gonna be important to have eyes there, but also, I guess, on this so-called Pentagon Propaganda Corps that's there now. And then there's more we've got to dive into in a minute, but first let me say, listen up, you with the passion project, the side hustle, the list of business ideas just rotting away in your notes at. I want you, and you can make today the day that you commit to making that thing real.

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Starting point is 00:13:26 next up today, fuck your Spotify wrap. Right, that is what a lot of people who are boycotting Spotify are saying right now is they've launched a campaign to get people to ditch the platform in protest over ice sides that have run. Right. And this movement is called Spotify Unwrapped and it was launched by progressive grassroots groups like the Working Families Party and the Indivisible Project. And these ICE recruitment ads, I mean, they've been controversial for a few months now. And while actually, tons of streaming services have been running these ads, Spotify has kind of gotten the brunt of it. And you know, you've seen this boycott movement just kind of bubbling up for a while now

Starting point is 00:13:55 with people on Spotify community forums saying they're leaving the service, calling the ads unacceptable and saying they don't want to support fascism. And specifically, the Indivisible project said, streaming hate is not neutral. It's a choice. We refuse to fund it. We refuse to ignore it. Now, that's sad for their part, you had Spotify saying, this ad. part of a wider campaign from the U.S. government running across multiple platforms, including

Starting point is 00:14:13 television, streaming, and online channels, and saying users can provide feedback on ads, such as liking or disliking them to help manage their ad experience. But what you're seeing are a lot of people saying, well, there are other ways we can let you know we dislike these ads. And last month, he even had the New York City cop-troller writing a letter to Spotify CEO, expressing concerns about recent developments that may violate Spotify's advertising policies and impact long-term shareholder value. And with that, asking the company to explain how it assess these ads, including regarding policies, prohibiting advertisements that promote stereotypes or negatively portray or attack an individual or group on the basis of race, religion, gender identity, or expression, ethnicity,

Starting point is 00:14:47 nationality, and more. And then with all that, one of the big reasons that we're seeing headlines about this today is that Spotify just launched. Or you've got everyone in their mother talking about Spotify right now. You know, a lot of people sharing their listening age, their top artists and songs. I mean, you can't look at Instagram without seeing tons of that right now. And so with that, it's also kind of a big PR day for a lot of big artists out there. We're tons of outlets covering things like Bad Bunny dethroning Taylor Swift as the top global artist.

Starting point is 00:15:09 Some artists even delivering messages on Spotify to their top listeners, thanking them for using the streaming service to listen to their music. And then, of course, you also have the podcast charts, which Joe Rogan topped once again. And, you know, all this hype, it really ends up paying off for Spotify. I mean, just in its first 24 hours, Spotify Rapp reportedly engaged 200 million users, which is nearly a 20% increase from last year. And so that's why this unwrapped movement is, you know, trying to take advantage of all that momentum. And even sharing alternative graphics that look like Spotify's that people could pose that discuss the ISADs on the platform. With Indivisible's co-founder writing that a fun look back on the ear and music hits different when it's paired with propaganda for Trump's deportation machine Saying remember don't use Spotify while the platform runs recruitment ads for ice

Starting point is 00:15:45 But for now as we wait to see how this continues to play out I definitely would love to know your thoughts and even if you knew that this was a thing that was happening right now But then next up to date this is really interesting news and what might come as a shock to a lot of people rent prices have actually once again dropped Across the month of November leading the average apartment costing $1,367 in the United States and then on top of that vacancies actually rose to 7.2%, which is a record high. And then when you look into it, falling rent prices have been a trend since mid-20203, and they were fueled by a building boom across much of the United States. And actually with that, the rent prices will likely continue to drop and vacancy rates remain high as more buildings are still in the works. Now that said,

Starting point is 00:16:22 the amount of new units being worked on has slowed down substantially, but it is expected that until the well of currently being built ones dries up, prices will continue to drop. And so with all that, I'll say on the surface, rent prices dropping at historic rates, it might seem like a good thing for everyday people, but you actually have experts saying that it's a sign that younger people are really struggling to start new homes. And according to Grant Montgomery, the National Director for Co-Stars Multifamily Analytics, that 18 to 34-year-old group, I think it's up to 32.5% of those now living with family, and that's the highest it's been in a while. Saying, I think it reflects high rental costs that have risen over the years, as well as

Starting point is 00:16:56 the tougher job market for young folks just coming out of college. And so rent prices falling aren't just because there's an abundance of supply, but also because the core group that targets rentals just aren't even trying because it's still too expensive. Especially when you consider that in many markets, it's still super expensive to buy a home compared to local incomes. Right? And so renting a place and saving for a home, it's just out of the question. And we also say talking about this stat on a nationwide level, it doesn't make sense in some ways because so much of the U.S. lives in metro areas. But also, like even there, the trend largely holds true. Where it's over in Vegas, tourism's way down, which kills jobs and thus people leave the area.

Starting point is 00:17:29 Or like in Boston, federal funding cuts across many of its key industries have similarly affected work. And then there's also the factor of how many multifamily units are being built. Right, in Austin, Texas rents have plummeted as the city had a massive building boom. Right, you're seeing, according to Zillow, rentals, rentals in Austin being $2,300 at the start of 24. But then, just a year later, they plummeted to about $2,000 and now they're around 1950. Also, over in L.A., rentals have still gone down despite a notable lack of building. Although there, it's a much more modest 1% month to month. Then also, like, if you ever lived in L.A., you know that rent going down, it's almost unheard of.

Starting point is 00:17:59 Right, and then another sign that things are rough across the U.S. still is that renters are searching for more affordable markets like Cincinnati, Atlanta, Kansas City, and St. Louis. So largely it's expected that things will stabilize next year as there are still units being built. Also, I'll say, you know, rent prices falling would seem like good news for consumers if it wasn't for the fact that everything else appears to have gone up. Food prices continue to rise across the states, and while it doesn't seem like much year on year, it does add up, considering this has been a trend for years. Not to mention, at least as I'm recording, who knows what the hell's happening, like anything shipped

Starting point is 00:18:27 to the U.S., it's facing like an 18% tariff on average. Also, inflation, it's still at a semi-reasonable 3%ish, but as easily. effect of the tariffs compound and the inventory of pre-tariff items runs out, there's an expectation that prices will rise across 2026. So you know what? Rising prices equaling inflation. The silver lining here is that experts are optimistic that it at least won't reach the 9% that we saw during the height of the pandemic. That's also a pretty crazy bar to compare anything to. You know, this is the situation we're talking about the numbers, the trends, and so I'm also interested to know, you know, how has this been affecting you? Like, what's your experience been with renting right now,

Starting point is 00:18:59 trying to buy a house, buying household goods, any and all of it? But then, And next up to date, here's maybe a new one for you. A group of school staffers in New Jersey are being accused of hosting dress as your favorite pedophile parties. Right, that is what's being alleged in a lawsuit that was filed by Melissa Pompfrey, a former special education teacher in the Pinelands Regional School District. And specifically, you have Pompfrey alleging that a school paraprofessional and other staff members participated in more than one of these parties around August of 2023. And so Pompfrey, she says that she brought the matter to school officials telling them about the party and also raising concerns that the same paraprofessional who attended the pedophile parties also had an inappropriate relationship with an underage student.

Starting point is 00:19:37 And with that, a legend of the male paraprofessional would frequently invite this underage student to hang out with him after school. But then, Pomfrey claims that not only did district officials fail to take proper action, they also demoted her from the high school to a middle school special needs classroom. So with that, you have the suit alleging that the administrators conducted a sham investigation and then intentionally reassigned her in pure retaliation for her complaints of the unlawful, unsafe, and neglectful environment fostered by defendants. So then as a result, the complaint says that Pomfrey began suffering anxiety, depression, severe nausea, and uncontrollable vomiting from the stress. But she still says that she continued to repeatedly ask administrators to take her complaints about the paraprofessional seriously, but the district ignored her.

Starting point is 00:20:14 And with that, you had Pomfrey claiming that her health got so bad that her doctor and psychiatrist placed her on a disability leave of absence, which she took unpaid. With then, in May of 2025, while still on medical leave, Pineland's administrators told Pomfrey that they weren't renewing her contract for the next school year, a move that she believes was also retaliation for the fact that she reported these so-called pedophile parties. So now, as a result, she's seeking reinstatement, back pay, legal fees, and court order training for district officials on discrimination and retaliation. Now, all that said, as far as how the district has responded, an attorney for Pinelands Regional denied the allegations in court documents. In the Pinelands Regional School District, also calling the suit baseless in a statement of the media. It's definitely a situation where we're going to have to keep our eyes on it. But then, from that as we're winding things down today, I want to end with a little self-promo and one more thing.

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Starting point is 00:21:14 because the warehouse has almost been emptied out. You know, that aside, we've talked about what appears to be Trump's brazen corruption. Whether it be with what seems to many, like bribes, the pardons, the what appears to be obvious corrupt business deals. But it also got me wondering how this kind of corruption impacts the larger economy in the present,

Starting point is 00:21:30 but also the long-term term future. You've even seen it calling things like the third worldification of America, though, that's definitely a loaded term. You know, to break that down for me and really so much more, I had the plain bagel on the In Good Faith podcast this week. The full episode actually went up today. I highly recommend you watch it. I'm going to include a full link down below. And he's a finance creator and an actual certified financial analyst. And he really broke it down from a fundamental standpoint. There is a 17% long-term impact on GDP per capita. So there's a meaningful impact on just output alone. And that's not the only gauge that matters for an economy,

Starting point is 00:22:01 but it goes to show that even just on that pure measure of performance, corruption can have a negative impact. And the reason for that is, well, there's a number of reasons. Some of it is that it can lead to inefficient output. So when it comes to governments having favoritism with the companies they select, what that means is you move away from merit-based decisions to suddenly, you know, whoever you're in favor with. And that means you can have sub-optimal outcomes. You might have a infrastructure project that fails and all this money wasted because you hired someone that wasn't qualified to do so based on corruption and things like that. So you have a lot of wasted tax dollars that come from that as well. And part of it, too, is the research report

Starting point is 00:22:48 that showed that the impact of the standard deviation change in that index level. It also showed that the reason you typically see that impact on economic output is because it feeds into a decrease in foreign direct investment, which makes sense because suddenly foreigners who have money to invest in your economy will second guess whether to invest in your system. If they don't have faith that the rule of law will be upheld, if they don't believe there's an even playing field, if they believe their money will be taken or perhaps beat out by some industry incumbent that has a solidified position with the government. So it discourages foreign direct investment and it also increases inflation. And that can be because of the wasteful projects, the inefficient production

Starting point is 00:23:32 you see and things of that sort. So, and, you know, finally, and you can see this in some countries as it can lead to just less competition overall. And you can get this oligarchy of companies and insiders and the like that end up commanding most business activity. So it's all those reasons that from an economic standpoint there tends to be this view that corruption's bad. It's funny to argue that. But that my friends is where this video ends, but of course you got more just to click

Starting point is 00:24:01 away. You can check out that full in good faith podcast right here or in the links down below and or if you missed last night's Philip de Franco show definitely catch up. There was a lot we talked about there. But hey, whatever you do, let me just say thank you for watching. I love yo faces and I'll see you right back here on Monday.

The Philip DeFranco Show - WHO IS LYING?! Spotify Wrapped ICE Scandal, TPUSA Challenges Candace Owens, & Today’s News

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