The Phonebox Podcast With Emma Conway - Britney, Christina & Labyrinth: Rose Gallagher

Episode Date: January 27, 2025

Who fancied David Bowie in Labyrinth and loved a bit of Britney Spears? Amazing beauty writer and content creator Rose Gallagher that's who! Rose joins The Phonebox Podcast to chat about the joy of Christina Aguilera, fancying boys and what the heck we think Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen are up to.Go and follow Rose for amazing make up tutorials here.For more of me follow @brummymummyof2 on Instagram, YouTube, Facebook and TikTok and follow the @phoneboxpodcast account on Instagram for polls and nostalgic fun.If you have any guest suggestions, topics you would like me to cover email [e-mail] and be sure to tag so I can see where you are listening!#00s #00smusic Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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How the devil are you? I hope you are all well. Guys, I'm wearing my Britney Spears t-shirt again. I feel like I'm just addicted to having a little bit of Britney. If you want to know what I look like, go and check out the podcast on YouTube. If not, just keep listening to me in your ears. I think you might be in the bath listening to me. That would be exciting.

We've got a wonderful guest. Now, this must be maybe the brummiest episode I've ever had. He is hoping. He is hoping. I've had another episode. Do you know Marv? Marvreen Cole. She's absolutely amazing.

She's very brummi. So we have had a prior brummi episode. Okay. Hopefully we're going to take it up a notch today. Yeah, we're going to really like up that brumminess. So we've got Rose on the podcast today. Hello, Rose. Where can the people find you?

So my username on everything is Rose Gallagher. And I make lots of kind of makeup content, content about Rosacea. And sometimes I write features too, if you wanted to read about beauty or music or anything in between. She's a brummie a beauty a guru that's you heard it here first that's your title as per usual I will leave links in the description and I do that with all my guests and I highly recommend you go and check people out because I only have nice people on the podcast that's a fact and you know what I thought that when I was going through the previous guests it's all a really lovely do you know what? I thought that when I was going through the previous guests,

it's all a really lovely, warm group of people. Like I knew it was just going to be a laugh from the get go. I think I've done about 70 interviews and every single person has been flipping lovely. I've not had one that I've gone, Hmm. Yeah, but that's because you bring that out in everyone, Emma. Like it's just an instant. You just know you're in for a good time.

Oh, that sounds like i'm like a good time girl absolutely a good time girl at half past one on a friday afternoon okay well when people are listening it will be january we're speaking we're speaking we're speaking from the past to the future is that right brilliant so by now we both will have had a very lovely Christmas we will have had a successful first few weeks of January what would have been your new year's resolution what what should you be doing now in January so I am a real vision boarder I love making a vision board right brilliant so I've got about another week's worth of work to finish and then just from uh it I would rather tick everything off before I start planning for the next okay

but what I hope I will have done I saw this lovely um video recently about how so many people put emphasis on starting the new year with new affirmations or goals or whatever they've got in mind and they said actually this downtime between Christmas and New Year is a really good time to get those thoughts going yeah so to be honest I am just kind of hoping that by jam I've had weeks and weeks of planning thinking what do I want out of the new year and the one thing I've decided to set myself Emma is a bit of a schedule yeah because I've got so many ideas and I've got a lot of care commitments at home and I found that this year I did the best I could to juggle everything but for 2025 I want to plan

a bit more in advance and carve out time for the things that I love so that no matter what's going on I tick off all the things I really want to do as well as the things I have to do that sounds marvelous I like to do mine on um PicMonkey which is a website and then I have it as my screensaver as my on my computer background for the whole year and I put like little like keywords and stuff and little goals I always put a few goals on I know I'm going to achieve so I can feel like yeah we tick them off tick that off got dressed so yeah actually guys message message me if you've got any fun resolutions that I want to hear about them we've gone past the time of the 80s and 90s which would have been about losing weight we're

not interested in that anymore we're not interested in any of that we don't want anybody eating special k and thinking they're gonna lose loads of weight doing that however i do feel that special k when not in the weight loss context is i had to give up dairy earlier this year because i've just got an intolerance and it's the worst thing that's ever happened to me because I love dairy I love cheese all my favorite cakes have got cream in them it's just been a disaster but I said to my mom the other day I made her a bowl of special k it could have reduced me to tears that is the one thing I really would murder yeah an ice cold yeah crunching oh you have it with oat milk or is it just not the same i haven't tried it yet because i just feel like that's going to be a slap in my face

but maybe i'll have to now that we've spoken about it again might have just a few days treat yourself sacrilegious okay so we chatted before you came um on air on air like this is radio show, flipping out like local radio. It is to me. 2003, you were 14 and we have had this year before. So we have chatted about these songs before. It's a mixed bag, the top 10 of 2003. I'm not going to lie.

Can you have a little guess and think of one song that might have been in the top 10 of all songs of 2003 right there's quite a few iconic songs I feel that came out at this time I know everyone would say that about their teen years but I really believe 2003 was quite a moment in time okay I am gonna put Stacey's his mom up there as a potential top 10 no no are you joking i feel like that was in every like coming of age film maybe i'm making that i i do you know what no it is a great song you're the first person to have ever mentioned that on all the naughty episodes that i've done um that is not in the top 10 have one more guess and then I think you might be a bit disappointed about the songs that are in the top 10 right I also feel like this was the time of Beyonce crazy in love is that number well done that's number seven it's

number seven all right number seven so you've got one well done so I'm gonna go down from that so number 10 Gareth Gates and the Kumar Spirit in the Sky fair play actually because that is quite good fair play that was a comic release song I had forgotten that even existed until then yeah well I bought it back you can get off and play it I'll be getting that on YouTube when we're done Now this is Make Love and is it the song where Make love and listen to the music I hate that song I can't believe they've got in there and Stacey's mum hasn't, absolutely

fuming about that Number 8 was Girls Alive, Sound of the Underground that's a great song What a fantastic song, I went to see them a few minutes ago I watched the show yeah the night before that was that was such a night of this year eight o'clock girls allowed live nine o'clock I'm a celebrity get me out of here first episode I looked forward to that for about a month

programming at its finest we never go see I watched the girls allowed program then it was followed by a boy band programme, I think. So there was a boy. Send me the link to that one. Yeah, there's a boy band programme. So then seven with Beyonce, Crazy In Love. Number six. Do you know what?

The other person who had 2003 was Tracy Beaker, who came on the podcast. She's 2003 as well. So you're in good company. Tattoo, all the things she said. Brilliant. Were they sisters? Were they lesbians? We don't know. don't know i don't think they were that i'd be rearing towards option b but i don't think i don't

think they're even i don't think they're sisters or lesbians i think they're just two girls they're dressed up in school uniforms all part of the appeal i need to do a deep dive 50 cent in the club brilliant song brilliant great if you don't say go shorty, it's your birthday to me. On my birthday. I don't want to know yet. Still doing it. Like, what, 21 years later? Blue Cantrell featuring Sean Paul with Breathe.

Breathe. It's fantastic. Do you know what? All the good songs like that came out at this time. Is Lumadee going to be in here? What's that? If you want me to stay, I'll never leave. Uh-oh.

That was this year, I'm sure. It was. Maybe I don't remember it. This was all really good. I have to listen to that one again. Because I had to know that's what I call something or another with all of these on. Number three, effervescent, bring me to life. FanDuel Casino's exclusive live dealer studio

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19 plus and physically located in Ontario. Gambling problem? Call 1-866-531-2600 or visit connectsontario.ca. Please play responsibly. Loved that when she was hanging off the top of the building. Yeah, not my... No, number two. He's been cut.

He's terrible we're gonna gloss over r kelly with ignition we're gonna gloss over it we're not even no not not no number one black eyed peas where is the love where is the love what's wrong with the world mama oh i this year, was really like defined for me, which it had come out in 2002. Yeah. Christina Aguilera's stripped album. So has that got dirty on it? Yes. Yes. What else is on it?

Can't Hold Us Down. It has Beautiful. Oh. So many great songs, but all the unreleased ones were great. But I went to see her in concert for that tour on my birthday and it was the Black Eyed Peas that was the support that was one of the best concerts I have ever been to in my life yeah I went to the NEC as well no I think I went to see it in London weirdly with my sister but um from my memory and I have talked about this before I think Black Eyed Peas started

off with Where Is The Love rather than like leading up to Where Is The Love so it was like I think so I don't know which is a weird move isn't it like leave your best song till the end of your your segment yes yeah yeah because at that time I don't think we knew much of them I believe that may have been the only song we were actually aware of. God loves them. But they were amazing. Yeah, Black Eyed Peas and Christina Aguilera in Chaps and not very much. What she is.

Not very much else. Have you seen her recently? I know, she's having her second wind. Have you seen the film Substance? Yes. Oh, I really enjoyed this do we think christina aguilera is in some sort of those injections i don't know i do do you know what i honestly think with a lot of them emma and i really really mean this and i'm not just saying it because i love maker yeah i think people really underestimate the power of when you figure out the hair and makeup that works for you, you can be a completely different person.

And I honestly think she's just gone back to all those classic beauty choices that used to always work. She's gorgeous. There's her, there's Lindsay Lohan, also gorgeous. Lindsay, I'm really delighted that we've got the return of lindsey it's just great i love them all i watched a christmas film with her in the other day what i can't do you know what i can't even remember the plot but she looked great the one with kristen chinoa the new one yes and she was the that the other day. It was really good. Amazing. Yeah, Lindsay Lohan. She's like Michael Bublé's the king of Christmas.

She seems to be the queen of Christmas. She pops up, pops out three films, and then goes away until the next year. Absolutely. She looks back. Have you explored the Hallmark Christmas films? I sat down with my daughter the other day, and I started to watch a Hallmark film. She said, this is terrible. This is cringe and this is embarrassing. And I said, yes.

Yes. And that's why we like it. Correct. Take a seat. This is why we're all here. This is why we like it. I watched one the other day on Netflix, but it was a Hallmark kind of film, where a woman had got a missed call from

an old lady and ended up going to their house for Christmas and I was like why would you do that and then within three minutes the old lady's son walked in and went here we go here comes the love interest all gonna kick off I love it I love it I love a film that where you know the whole plot and the ending by seven minutes in you're like right she's gonna end up with him that's the end of that you need those like on a sunday or something when you don't actually have the energy to be concentrating that's exactly what you need i wonder are there any like january warmer versions of these we'll have to try and have a look yeah we do we do need some January like snuggling day to day yes where did you now we know you're from Birmingham but where did you grow up where were you living when you were 14 and what was on your bedroom walls

so uh born and raised in Erdington in Birmingham and I think at that time, to be honest, I wasn't a real poster person. But I remember at one point having a life-size Britney poster that collapsed in the night. And I shared a room with my sister and it frightened the life out of us. And that may have been the end of the poster journey in our house. You were like that, no, haunted. You know, never again, 100% too traumatized she was probably trying to send you a subliminal message she was probably trying to say like free me get me out of here I know get me out oh I could I love Britney so much like I love her she she was such a big

part of that whole chapter of my life I mean I still love her so much but I feel like she really was one of a kind what's your favorite Britney song do you know what I'm struggling here my gut instinct is saying give me more okay. That whole album was amazing. And it reminds me of everyone's 18th because that's when that came out for me. Oh, actually, I beg your pardon. It would be the You Drive Me Crazy Stop Remix version with Melissa Joan Hart in the video.

That is my final answer. What a great song. Two icons. If you've not done it recently, and this goes for people who are listening please watch crossroads re-watch it it's a great film i watched it with my daughter we were and the fashion isn't even that different to the fashion that people wear now because it's very i mean there's i feel like there's a few dresses over jeans in some of the scenes. William Steinmeier. But it is such a good film.

I completely forgot about that. I'll have to watch that again. And the girl from Orange is the New Black is in it. She's in it. And also Zoe. I've forgotten her last name. That's in like Avatar and all that. Oh, hang on.

Is it her? No, actually, no, I don't think it is her. Or maybe it is her. But anyway, it's three great people. Yeah, I don't think it is her or maybe it is her but anyway it's three great people yeah i'm not sure it is her but it's three there's a obviously there's a love story of course there was a few more adult themes than i remember when i saw in the cinema i feel like that is the case with so many things that you watched when you were younger that went over your head and then you watch them back now like i love re-watching sabrina the teenage witch but honestly at the age of 35 some of the jokes that come out of salem that would not be caught by a child's ear

are actually hysterical and it is just as enjoyable to watch as a grown-up it really really is not that i would consider myself a grown-up but i watched the netflix sabrina that is quite scary that's quite dark yes um but yes dawson's creek tried to watch that with erin deeply inappropriate pacey's sleeping with his teacher gossip girl yes gossip Girl deeply inappropriate these things were just on a Sunday morning and we were like oh let's just watch some man completely

attack a child and it what I know I know stop that as well Gilmore Girls we're safe with Gilmore Girls

Gilmore Girls was fine me and my mum just started that this winter so we're only on about series three the good thing with it is I feel like

you can half be doing a bit of a tidying clean half you watch it and you know what's going on but um all I know is when I say this to people that we've never watched it before everyone's reaction is just like you're gonna go on a big journey I can't wait to hear so now I'm like on the edge of my nerves what I'm in for in a good way I took my daughter to the real Stars Hollow this year or last year so Warner Brothers studio um that's where Stars Hollow is so you can go on a tour of you can go on a tour of like go and see the friends you know whatever this that and the other and then you drive into Stars Hollow and they're like the band stands there and they go there's and at christmas it's all decorated stars hollow luke's is there you can get like drinks from there oh my god i'd die i love it so much i saw um this thing on instagram you've just reminded me that apparently

because friends and gilmore girls was on the same lot, I think they called it. Chandler was going out with Laura Lively for a while. And you see like Monica and Rachel wearing some Aurories jumpers and they cross clothes. How lovely is that? I love it. I just love it.

It's the best. And I think it just reminds me of watching it with Erin. We loved it so much. We'd watch all these episodes and she wouldn't, she finds me a bit cringe because you're supposed to find your mum cringe when you're 14 but she every time this music came on and bear in mind sometimes we'd watch four episodes a night she would watch me singing and she'd just watch me sing the whole thing four times like and then

sometimes I'd skip through it and she's like no you need to sing it and she's just like it is so good yeah it is brilliant um but we're distracted so bedroom war you had a Britney she clapped in half um who did you fancy this is a really important question so I was thinking about this there was this boy in my year Antek um he's from a Polish family absolutely he would have been like my first big big crush and my brother was having um a baby at the time and they were like has anyone got any baby suggestions of names for the baby and I was like yes I think the baby should be called Antek. My Irish Catholic family are like, where have you pulled this name from? And I was like, nowhere. I just think it's a great name. And to this day, like, it's all this big laugh in the house that I'm trying to like put this Polish name on the table, making out like there's absolutely no reason for it other than I've discovered it and have no

sort of emotional attachment to it whatsoever. Did you ever go out with him? Was it unrequited? Do you know what? I remember that like, we always got on really well. And I definitely remember that like, we would maybe like pop to town for the day and go to the shops and the cinema or something. We definitely like had a few kisses along the way,

but we never actually went out. And I don't really know why, but like, had a few kisses along the way, but we never actually went out, and I don't really know why, but, like, I only have, like, happy memories associated with him. That's nice. Yeah, yeah. Have you ever looked him up on Facebook? No, actually. Maybe I will after we get off the phone.

You'll be like that. Have a little look. To be fair, I feel like it would be someone that if I saw him in the pub or something, I'd be like, oh my gosh, how are things? I would happily sit down and have a drink. Oh, that's nice. Who famous did you fancy? FanDuel Casino Daily Jackpots.

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like people wearing too much makeup or like so many of my friends are gay. Like clearly I just lived this whole androgynous kind of no real, a bit of blurred line situation. This very glamorous man. In like leggings and like Winkle Picker shoes kind of like. Big furry. Yeah. Okay. Furry collars.

No. I know. I've stumped you there. Well, I usually do the question if they're knocked at the door today obviously that would be physically impossible because all right but if if he came to your door dressed as labyrinth now would your heart still flutter um i think it would but more from a perspective of come on in show me what you've done with your eyeliner and I'll show you what I've done with mine I think it would be a different conversation

I'll be a great one yeah I like that I think that's I think that's excellent right so what kind of school did you go to in Birmingham and where were you in the hierarchy were you a cool kid were you a nerd what were you so my school I have to say I loved school I loved every second of it and I'd go back tomorrow um it was because my family are Irish immigrants lots of people at my school also had Irish family so I feel like it very much felt like a community um it was a performing arts school so we always put loads of emphasis on the school show and so I met great friends outside of my year group as well as in my year group um it was a Catholic school I don't particularly resonate with Catholicism but I'm glad I went to that school because it was a lovely school and I felt like you know taught me right from wrong even if the mechanism of how we

were taught that doesn't quite ring true for me um I was really lucky in that if I'm honest I definitely sat in the popular group but I wasn't the queen bee as such. I genuinely was friends with everyone. I had no enemies. I just had a great time at school. So I feel like even though I did have an easy ride that way, I wouldn't have been the one that everyone was looking to for like, what shoes have I got on or what lip gloss is she wearing? Do you know what I mean?

But I just loved every minute of school. And a lot of my good friends today are still my friends from school. Oh, that's nice. Yeah. Yeah, we've had a few people on the podcast who had similar experiences. You can either have one way or the other.

You can either hate it or you love it, don't you? Or you kind of just keep your head down and get through it. But I'm glad you had a nice experience. That's lovely. What was yours like? My secondary school was all girls uh grammar school so high expectations I am not bright enough to be in all girls grammar school so really did bring the um results down because I managed to pass but they were looking for more like a's it was great i enjoyed it girls schools are quite tough i can imagine it must be but for that time of your life

as well when everyone's hormones are racing and you've got all these new like feelings to navigate it must have been quite yeah there was there was positive there was positive. So I was there till I was 18. I didn't go to a different, you know, sixth form, but the positives were, there were no boys. There was no, even though I was, went to school in the 90s, you know, from 89, like, you know, it was girl power. It was, you can do whatever you want. You can be whoever you want.

There was never any sexism. It was just positive. You're a girl. You're going to smash it. You're going to do whatever you want. You know, we had it was just positive your girl you're gonna smash it you're gonna do whatever you want you know we had talks like don't go upstairs on the buses with your skirts on because men will look up um keep yeah there was a real like you know watch what you do watch your backs they're after your girls we were like um and we didn't have to like put makeup on you could just roll out of bed and look like a hot mess oh yeah yeah that was that was really positive but you know i've had quite a few people on the podcast from girl school it has a knock-on effect that even today

i find it quite uh unusual to be in a meeting with men and it's just it you're used to just like girls and then i went into pr which is just girls and I went into teaching which is a lot of girls so it's still still gosh I never thought of that but it's so true I remember having um when I got to uni there was a girl in our halls that had come from a girl's school yeah and she was so she was just completely bewildered that not only were there boys around yeah but we were living with them and I remember thinking gosh like she's just things like you know when you're little and your mom says stop showing off because you've got your friend around it was like that 24 7 and she'd do these really bizarre things she was a lovely girl but she was just so excited like a boy you might see yeah yeah my

daughter goes to a mixed school and i'll say oh just so and so fancy so and so didn't she's like like no one cares like it was just it's just boys and girls in the same class where there's a girl school it's all like you know i've talked about it before like once um a band from the boys school came and we were like caged animals animals we could like sniff them boys there's boys there's boys and these boys like probably just four nerds they must have been terrified like it was the beatles and they were like they bet they loved they were from the boys school they probably loved it okay so you were kind of like school can i quickly ask you did you have like a say for our girls school near us there was a boys and a girls school nearby they used to meet on the bus and like it would all kick off

on the bus okay yeah we had all the fun happened we had i went to king edward's handsworth and then there was aston boys then there was handsworth boys so they'd get's Handsworth and then there was Aston Boys. Then there was Handsworth Boys. So they'd get on the bus and then they'd be on our bus. But also there was Five Ways. So there was like, there was pretty much like three different places you could get your boys from. So you could all into. And they had a disco, our school would have a disco. I can't remember if it was monthly or whatever, at the boys' school.

Oh, my God. So I don't know who thought of that, why they thought of that. I don't know what their thinking was. They just wanted the drama. So the teachers, yeah, get the kids, get the girls. And when we did shows, and I don't think this happens anymore because I have my friend's daughter go to Sutton Girls and they don't ship boys in

the girls were shipped into the boys plays so if you did greece they'd be shipping in your sandy your janice or whatever so you'd all go to the boys school to go into the boys oh lovely and yeah that was that was that bit it was it was, it was fun. I kind of look back and that kind of era of going to, you know, doing the plays of the boys. It was, it was, it was a good giggle. It was a good giggle. Okay. So I want to hear about your fashion faux pas. What did you wear then that you think was awful? I was thinking that this particular time, I really remember specific things that just I got what everyone had. So there were these shoes that kind of curled up and that everybody had and they were ridiculous. But I had those to go to the youth disco at Rosie's in sutton um i definitely had like i feel like this was gypsy skirt territory which

no shade to the gypsy skirt but just it's back the white one my daughter wants yeah yeah i feel like that was i would have worn that all the time can rain or shine um definitely was multi-layer in a tank top at this point in time maybe like a turquoise with a white on top um but my biggest faux pas would have been with my hair I like I don't mind that I've got a high forehead it genuinely doesn't bother me at all but I was so conscious of it when I was younger and my hair is naturally curly so I would have this like frizzy curly hair sprayed the life out of yeah hair with like a messy back and then a side fringe that would be like straightened down but it's so funny the color of my two eyebrows is different this day I'm convinced it's because one eyebrow got a load of sun

and the other one didn't in these formative years. And we've just never recovered from that. And it's all due to this fringe. And then because my hair's naturally curly and I loved dance, so I was always at dance, I always had this fringe that then was going puffy and curly and sweaty and stick it. Like it was just bedlam on my face every day. Was the fringe, did you put product in it or was it just, you just let it hang?

Just let it hang. But it would have been like poker, probably at an angle off my face. But was there straighteners then or did you just have a straight fringe? Did we have straighteners? We had those really large ones. Yes. But the first big, thick straighteners had just come into play. Yeah, because you could get a crimper, couldn't you?

That was quite a big instrument. And a straightener. Not like a little Cloud nine a bit well you know what dhd's yeah i bet you look lovely thank you i'm confused by the shoes that turned up were they like oh yeah what jasmine and aladdin would wear kind of yeah and they would roll up there was also at the age of wallabies yes i wore as my school shoes why did we do that who knows yeah um yeah all of my choices around that time would have just been what is everyone else wearing yeah it's so funny but it I remember about year 11 so only a couple of years

after I was the polar opposite by then I used to love going to the charity shops, getting vintage things, getting unusual things. I got really into clothes then. But a few years before was the polar opposite. You just want to fit in, don't you, at that age? You want to fit in, keep your head down. Just nobody really notices me, apart from maybe the odd boy. But, yeah, just kind of like...

Is there anything you wore then that you'd wear now do you know something um i've because i've been like re-watching sabrina for example i know that was kind of the 90s but i've i'm a real comfort watcher and i go back and watch things i've watched a million times i've been revisiting some of those makeup choices. I got into makeup really early. I've got a little frosted shadow on today. Yeah, lovely. I quite love...

I feel like with makeup, we've gone on this journey of all of these soft washes of, like, shimmers and colours that are just a bit azure. We then went into, into like the 2010s say that were so pilot on kardashian-esque structured contouring all of that i feel like we're going back into this we've been taking that way too seriously and we all need to calm down phase with makeup and it's kind of those trends that are coming back did you see the other day this amazing makeup artist patty de brath she used to do the olsen's makeup and she said for the new

york minute premiere this is what i did and it was like an early 2000s makeup i'm so happy that all of that is having a revival because i think for a lot of people the fun got sucked out of makeup for a while when it was like, you have to follow all these steps and all these rules. And I think we're getting back into this carefree, let's have a bit of fun time. I love the Olsons. I want to know everything about them. Oh, I know.

And that's why we love them so much, because we actually don't half the time what they do I just imagine them just being in their house drinking espresso probably smoking and walking around with big giant handbags a hundred percent and like lovely draped I think every single thing of theirs even though it might be a really classic piece, like some lovely black joggers or like a nice little, you know, cream vest top is just some sort of effortlessly chic brand that we've never heard of. And they've got like maybe a few little gold pieces to just pull it all together. And I bet they're a laugh. Do you reckon?

Yeah, I reckon they're such a laugh. I reckon we have not seen a fraction you can't have a career like that without having a bloody laugh in every meeting you go into every pitch everything for people to come out and go oh we have to use those two i bet they're screwed because when you see their sister um who does like one division interviews like she seems like she's really fun and if if, you know. Yeah. All the things that she's seen. I know.

That we'll never know. And all the clothes she's able to buy. Oh, and they're just walking around in like ballet flats or something. Oh, no. Just like living their best lives. I think one of them's got a baby as well. Where do you know that? Yeah, I think so.

Oh, I don't know if I'm breaking it here first, but I'm quite certain one of them's got a baby okay so what do you think your greatest teenage success was greatest teenage success yeah it can be it doesn't have to be something serious it can be something daft do you know i made lovely friends that i've still got today yes like say how I was saying about the school show yeah some of my friends that I've still got from my year and then others we used to do like we did uh West Side Story, Grease, Oliver all the classics but we made great great friends and like one of my best friends Tom that I see all the time

he was two years above me and we just met and instantly hit it off and I speak to Tom all day every day he's probably my biggest teenage success actually because that's so nice and you I I love talking about I saw this thing the other day um where someone said it's not a flex to be friends with your old friends because you should have grown and you should be a new person and all of that and I remember thinking I think that's just because that person hasn't experienced it because I've made lovely friends as an adult that I've got great friendships with but there is something great about like I went away a couple of weeks ago my first ever spa trip oh no my friends from school there's just a different shorthand when you're talking about your problems today with people that know the context of them for the last 30 years yeah definitely I think my

friendships would be my greatest achievement yeah that's lovely I've got some friends that I've had kind of probably from about 14 and they just it's they just like know your mom and dad they know you know they remember your nan and just kind of like nice stuff like that and they're like yeah it is it is I mean I've got lovely new friends as well but you you're old they're almost like um cousins that yeah it's fit like family isn't it it's almost like yeah it's just like oh my cousin or like my kids call them like auntie whatever like auntie yeah yeah I wonder if that's a universal thing or it's a brummy cousin or like my kids call them like auntie whatever like auntie yeah yeah i wonder if that's a universal thing or it's a brummy thing that you call your mom and dad's

friends aren't they because did you used to do that i don't know we to be fair we just had that many aunties and uncles you genuinely were all the senior aunties and uncles mom's one and i dad's one of seven so they were all aunties and uncles friends that have kids i would be auntie rose so i think it is yeah i don't know actually is it a brummie yeah let us let us know because um yeah yeah sometimes i've said things and then it just turns out it's just a birmingham thing it's just just it's just us but yeah my friends have got auntie sheila and auntie katie and uncle dave and turns out it's just a Birmingham thing it's just us but yeah my friends have got auntie Sheila and auntie Katie and uncle Dave and auntie it's just yeah it's it's it's actually quite weird isn't it but it's what we do it works okay is there anything you look back on and regret a little bit from your teen years you know what there is and I'm not one for

regrets as such because I feel like at any moment we've all just done the best we could in that moment but something I can't help but reflect on is I loved like I was always in the shows and things as I say I loved dancing I loved theatre and our school even though it was a performing art school I loved it. And I'm not saying anything bad on anyone, but I am just saying we were very much encouraged to pursue academic things. Yeah. And I should have stuck with performing arts because I often think, say today at 35, I've worked for myself for seven years now I know I'm a real self-starter and I've always given 110% to any job I've ever done um and a lot of my jobs involve no's like one of the things I'm working on this week is writing a feature I pitch features all the time Emma and

95% of the time I get a no and I've just got some sort of unhinged lack of shame or something where I will just keep going and I'll try again and I'm very relentless with things like when I've got an idea in my head and I think that for a lot of people success you might not have had to be the very best at that thing but you do have to keep trying and I know I have this thing in me where I'll always keep trying and I'll always push along and I think I should have actually followed my gut and pursued all of those things because I listened to the noise that that won't pay the bills that's not safe that's not this that's not that it's a load of nonsense if I had this head which I did have it would have been fine yeah and I challenge myself on this sometimes and think you could always do a course today you could always go

enjoying an amateur theatre thing and I could but I've got bills to pay now I've got it's not the same as when you're at school and they're your hobbies you you've got different commitments as a grown-up that you have to make you can't just be you don't have the same time to do these passion projects I think I could have made a really good stab at that if I'd believed in myself and it's something that I've really passed on to anyone younger in my life don't go listening to what sensible people tell you is going to pay the bills because all sorts of things can pay the bills but I think when you come from a working class environment you've got no access to that like posh people will always be able to do these

fun things because they've just grown up in worlds where they're told you can do whatever you want and there's a safety net if it doesn't work whereas I think we need to tell everyone it isn't going to be easy and the world isn't like everyone makes it and all the rest of it but it can happen it shouldn't be shut down before it's given a chance so if you go back in time you'd kind of encourage yourself to go down a different avenue yeah and I'm happy with the avenues I've taken for sure and I love what I do now um but I think that could have been that could have been a really different path that was maybe what I was meant to do but not everyone does what they're meant to do and you can still find something lovely even if it's not the absolute perfect solution which I think I I love what I do now

and I've got no regrets that way but I do have a few what ifs oh yeah no I like that though no regrets but a few what ifs yeah I like that I really wanted to work in PR and that was my dream and I did it and I was absolutely useless at it so um really yeah oh I thought you'd be great at that Emma you could get me quite interested in anything I did dance music PR um but I ended up in business PR and that was not my cup of tea. How does business PR work? So, for example, I used to do PR for petrol stations or you do PR for like... Big corporate things. Yeah. And it just was that corporate environment was not for me.

I was not good at it. During that time, obviously, it was a long time ago you know like late 90s it was businessmen who just didn't treat you particularly kindly didn't speak to you kindly thought you were just a bit of you know a bit of fluff to write in a press release or whatnot and I kind of didn't take too kindly to that so I was like am I all right I just like I can't do this anymore and then that's when I became a teacher, which I loved. I loved it. I hadn't even considered that.

And I was just flipping loved it. And now I do this. So you never know. You're never too. You never know what's next. Yeah. So you're super young. You could still try something different.

Well, I signed up to a lot of like theatre groups that do courses in the summer. Yeah. And I just, I've um got all the emails and I always think do you know what what's stopping me at some point if I knew like in the January that there was a course coming up in the August and I could plan ahead for it I'd never rule it out and it would I can't think of anything more scary now, but like I saw this thing the other day again, that was like, if you're scared and you're excited, that's your gut instinct saying you're meant to do it. Yeah, like adrenaline. I'm sure I saw it on the news and by the news, I mean TikTok.

Always, that's exactly what I do as well. It was some, I don't know if it was, I feel like it might've been Morgan Freeman. He didn't start acting until he was like 50. There was like different facts. There was like different facts. And like Vera Wang didn't start designing wedding dresses until she was 40.

There was like lots of different facts about people. Maybe I could enter my new era as I love coming of age films. Maybe I could just sign up ready to be the mom in the coming of age films. That's it. Because ready to be the mom in the coming of age films because the moms are always about 30 anyway aren't they yeah and then in tic i'm too old to play them on the news in five years time tiktok it'll say rose didn't start acting so she was 30 she was 35 or whatever yeah there you go that's it you made it there we go first go in the vision board right um rose are you glad you grew up then or do you wish you were growing up now

so glad i grew up then i really can't even fathom how difficult it must be to grow up today and have the pressure of phones and do you know what I think there is such an immense pressure of when I was growing up it was a lovely time and we had MSN messenger so we had the best of a bit of the internet but we actually didn't have a family computer till I was 18 so I missed most of it if something something happened at home, at school, or you were cross with someone or whatever, you went home and home was home. You were switched off, done. Someone could ring you on the house phone if they needed you.

And sometimes they did, but you know, there was nothing really going on. This constant being in touch, everyone able to get you all the time. I don't think it's healthy for anyone. I don't think any of us should be this accessible, never mind being a teenager. And like, if you've had a bad day and it follows you home,

I just, I really, really feel for how connected we are. And I don't think it's positive. And I just really, my heart goes out to the people growing up in this time, their parents. I can't imagine what it must be like to navigate. I think we were very blessed to grow up without people being able to get at us all the time. Yeah, it is difficult, especially when you're like, well, we're online. You get a lot of different voices all at the same time a lot of comparison it is it is I always

encourage us to kind of like put our phones down or we have like timers on the kids phones they can't go on after a certain time or they can't wake up and just go straight on the phone there's like a little bit of time where they have to wait for it to like kick in before they can turn it on but I'm not sure how long we'll be able to keep that on. I'm sure at some point they'll be like, mum, I've got to have that off now. I'll be like,

but you know, you're only 27. Keep the timer on. They'll be like, mum, can I have five more minutes? I'm getting married tomorrow. And I'll be like,

no. I think I need to be part of this strict regime as well. You can come on our family plan. I'll turn you, I'll turn you off. turn you off you're mindless rose thanks so very much for coming on the podcast i said i will leave all your links in the description do go and check her out she does some beautiful makeup tutorials i love it when you chat to people in queues about what i love that emma i just love chatting to everyone

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