The Phonebox Podcast With Emma Conway - Clueless About Love In The 90s: Claire Wetton

Episode Date: February 12, 2024

Love is all around in in this weeks The Phonebox Podcast episode. I'm joined by children's TV writer, my sister Claire Wetton. We discuss the top love songs and dodgy rom com films of the 1990s. Also ...how we all really wanted a Clinton's fake rose and a quilted card for Valentine's Day. But as we quickly discover...I never got anything. A real life Josie Grossie.For more of me follow @brummymummyof2 on Instagram, YouTube, Facebook and TikTok and follow the @phoneboxpodcast account on Instagram for polls and nostalgic fun.If you have any guest suggestions, topics you would like me to cover email admin@brummymummyof2.co.uk and be sure to tag so I can see where you are listening!#90s #90smusic #90sfilms Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello and welcome to this very special, sexy, oh, I don't know what I did, oh no I nearly said imagine I'm undressing while I'm speaking to you, don't do that, please don't, Emma put your top back on, oh my god stop it, stop, we're talking rubbish already, welcome to a very special episode of the phone box podcast with me emma conway how the devil are you it's valentine's this week claire how are you opening your door with so many valentine's coming through it i i'm a bit worried about uh my postman because the sheer weight he might have to leave some at the depot because he's only one man he's the only one man there's only so much love one man can bring to a girl we are talking about valentine's and of course as per usual our focus is on how terribly crap valentine's was in the 1990s i'm doing this episode with my wonderful sister and tip-top children's, after all, winning children's TV writer, Claire Michelle Whetton. Well, don't give out my full name,
Starting point is 00:01:11 people might dox me. I think we've got the most common middle names off of the 90s, a Michelle and a Louise. Yeah, every Claire I know's middle name is Michelle every Michelle I know's middle name is Claire I've never met if I met Michelle Claire I'd feel like that was the opposite I'd feel that was your nemesis I'm telling you now and this is nowhere to be found with the Fizz loyalty program you get rewarded just for having a mobile plan you know for texting and stuff and if you're not getting rewards like extra data and dollars for having a mobile plan. You know, for texting and stuff. And if you're not getting rewards like extra data and dollars off with your mobile plan, you're not with Fizz.
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Starting point is 00:02:29 I'd be like, I'd be like, I've never met a Louise Emma. Tell you what, if any of you are called Michelle Clare right there, drop me a little DM and then we can scare Emma on Halloween. Don't drop me a DM because I'll we can scare everyone Halloween don't drop me a
Starting point is 00:02:45 DM because I'll block you just turn up at home guy hello I'm Michelle Claire and of course it would be French hello my name is Michelle like anyway we're talking rubbish Valentine's Day now we're gonna start um I like to introduce some facts and this episode we're going with the top five love songs as decided by smooth radio so that's official of the 1990s don't know how they collated it i presume it is on sales you're gonna guess no don't stop you're peeking too early Number five. What do you think is the fifth top love song of the 90s? I can't do them in order. Just pick one.
Starting point is 00:03:30 We'll just pick one. Okay. Well, I started, didn't I? I started, so I'll finish. Look into my eyes and you will see. No, you're wrong. Is it underneath, though? I'm not telling you, Claire, because you're ruining the game.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Get Michelle Clare on the pod. She wouldn't be playing this. She'd be playing it right. But then what you say as number five might have been in my top five that I was going to say. Tough. Okay. It's Angels by Robert Williams.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Oh, I wouldn't have guessed that. I didn't even know that was 90s. I'd have thought that was noughties. Also, is it a love song? I thought it was about dead people. Yeah you can love dead people don't be deadest be dead number five was angels um despite only reaching number four what the heck no i think that's a. It's his best-selling single, shifting over a million copies after its release in 1997. It's a shock.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Well, there you go. Number four, I'm just going to tell you because you're ruining the game. It was Whitney Houston, I Will Always Love You. That was going to be my next guess. You ruined it. Whitney Houston, I Will Always Love You, number four. The Bodyguard, have you ever seen that film? I remember I have watched it on holiday in Spain in like a bar.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Do you remember when you used to be like in Spain on holiday when you were a kid and they'd be like, at 2pm we're going to show The Bodyguard and it'd be on like a little tiny screen in the corner of the room. Oh my God, yeah. At 2pm we're going to show The Bodyguard. At 2pm we're going to show, what other films might they have shown? And you'd be like, we've got to get to that yeah At 2pm we're going to show The Bodyguard At 2pm we're going to show What other films might they have shown We've got to get to that bar at 2pm on Thursday
Starting point is 00:05:10 Because they're showing The Bodyguard Because it's not going to come on our tellies For another two years It's an alright film Like Kevin Costner and of course R.I.P. Whitney I think I just remember being disappointed That it wasn't a musical.
Starting point is 00:05:27 There is a musical of it now, though. I was asked to go and see it a few weeks ago, but I couldn't make it. So maybe we should go and see that. That was the one that the woman got chucked out for singing, wasn't it? It wasn't. That woman was. Was that Michelle Clare? She was bopping up at all these events.
Starting point is 00:05:42 You were never going to get this song. This wouldn't have even been in your top 100. Top 1,000. Hazard by Richard Marks. No, but that would have been... Celine Dion, Think Twice. Oh, I was going to suggest Celine Dion. No, that's Whitney Houston.
Starting point is 00:06:02 The Titanic song, My Heart Will Go On. It was released in... I wouldn't have gone to think twice. Who thinks twice? Hang on. Sorry, guys. Sorry, guys. Celine's just hacked the Zoom.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Released in late 1994. UK top 40 for 12 weeks before finally reaching number one. And it stayed there for seven weeks. What was I doing in 1994? I don't remember that. What year was it? 1994. We were busy.
Starting point is 00:06:31 I was busy. I don't remember sleeping. We didn't think the world apart. We didn't think twice. So number two is, as you earlier guessed, Brian Adams, Everything I Do, I Do It For You. Now, this song was number one for 16 weeks. Would never happen now, would it?
Starting point is 00:06:54 I remember the good old days. I had it on cassette. Such a great song. I remember, shout out to Laura Sharp, if you're listening, just us singing it in the playground for weeks and weeks. That and Hazard. The two highlights of our year. I'm going to say something now.
Starting point is 00:07:13 I had a bit of a crush on Brian Adams. I thought he was a handsome gentleman. I feel like I thought he was 50, but he was probably in his 30s. I mean, that's weird, isn't it? He was like Fred Astaire, though, wasn't he? One of those, those like young old men yeah but I thought he looked great in the jeans and t-shirt singing it
Starting point is 00:07:28 and another Kevin Costner film I can't remember I am always worried is Kevin Costner cancelled I can't remember is he I don't think so Kevin if you're listening send us in um
Starting point is 00:07:44 Prince of Beads great great great great absolutely I don't think so. Kevin, if you're listening, send us in. Prince of Thieves, great, great, great, great. Absolutely. There was a young man from Nottingham. Who wanted to cross the water. Oh, I'm joking. It's Drift, I don't roll. And then it was something that didn't rhyme, wasn't it? And now he's got really hurt his knees. Yeah. The last line was always like, that doesn't work.
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Starting point is 00:08:55 Conditions apply. Details at fizz.ca. Guess, just guess. Oh, Celine Dion. No, you bloody said we've had Celine Dion already. Can't she be in its voice? Which one are you thinking of? My Heart Will Go On.
Starting point is 00:09:11 Nope. Okay. So it is Celine Dion, but it didn't... No, you're obsessed with Celine Dion. Curtis Tigers, I Wonder Why. No, but I wish it was. Seal Kiss From A Rose. Oh, true. I wonder why No but I wish it was Seal Kiss From A Rose Oh Chew
Starting point is 00:09:25 Is it possible To sing that song On your own I just sang it on my own It sounded brilliant Not the whole thing Though It's a great song
Starting point is 00:09:38 But I call Absolute Sham of a farce Smooth radio Sham of a farce If I wanted to I would throw my phone. The thing is, with Kiss My Rose,
Starting point is 00:09:48 is that he released that song about 18 times. So it's just a cumulative effect. Where's Wet, Wet, Wet Claire? Where's Love Is All Around Claire? Oh, yeah. Was that in the 90s? Yeah, it was, wasn't it? Sham.
Starting point is 00:10:03 If I saw Seal in the streets of birmingham i'd go up to him and say seal you're sham because marty pello should be number one is this like american oh hang on um now no because i think joseph wouldn't be in the top five yeah that's true i just don't understand why celine deons think twice and that my heart will go on now i'm wondering if it is american do you know what guys i'll leave it in the description i'll also bobby williams got to number one surely with angels so number four in america is this whole section a moot a moot point do we need to start again no we're not starting again or easier plan let's keep the podcast just move to america where are you moving to well you've got to move you can be boston mummy of two and then we'll just move to boston restart the podcast
Starting point is 00:11:01 and then we don't have to re-record this i'm gonna say smooth radio is british well i'll find out and i'll leave in the description but there we go claire is it was that whole section of shampoo unsure but i think that uh wet wet wet should have been i would have thought would have been famous in no would wet wet wet be famous in america what's your number one love song i'm just gonna check that smooth radio i can just do it here oh my god celine dion came up because she's talking me page is about celine dion um my number one this is how would i find out if this is british or not the listen oh no it's got to take that on it it's not it's definitely uh british my number one would have to be love is all around i love it not by here but let's not go back down babe i love love is all around i think it's great um and that is just a hill i'm willing to die on what about you
Starting point is 00:11:56 don't know what for love songs i do love hazard i will leave in if you're on spotify i will do a little poll and it will be the top five of them and also i'll put lovers all around and we'll see what people think selene dion wins i'll be shooketh right i asked the people on the phone box podcast instagram account could you just send in some things about valentine's you'd like us to talk about okay first of all envelope acronyms we've got a very intelligent audience and i love this one swag i would say swalk yes swalk so it's sealed with the loving kiss was swalk and every year nanny wetan would send us a valentine's card with sealed with a loving kiss on the back with a Loving Kiss was Swonk. And every year, Nanny Wetton would send us a Valentine's card with Sealed with a Loving Kiss on the back with a question mark.
Starting point is 00:12:48 It's cute, that, isn't it? Also, it used to say, to my granddaughter from Guess Who, it was like, well... Oh, it was a choice of two people, and we know it's... You can tell you're handwriting. I do that every year for my kids as well. I put it on the back of the envelope, and every year they go, why does it say smock on the background?
Starting point is 00:13:07 And every year I go, what, you pair of fools? And it kind of ruins the whole Valentine's mood. Sealed with a loving kiss. And I've also put it on Stephen's Valentine's card this year as well. And I put a question mark in it to the kids like that. And it's obviously for me, but I felt like keeping the tradition going. Yeah. Nice, isn't it chocolate hearts on sticks oh real real rotten oh god or like those cards as well where
Starting point is 00:13:38 in the middle is like a heart of chocolate a rank chocolate heart on a stick because it's never cabris oh no it's not even advent it's kinerton we're like kinerton advent calendar kin kin kin kin yeah because you don't eat sugar anymore do you um well you'll shout you shan't be missing out on any valentine's heart said otherwise claire you'd got you'd have got thousands well i'll have to donate mine to the local me no they're disgusting um me to you bears oh no one wants one they do though oh but when you were a teenager wouldn't you have loved it if you were 12 and mark owen had given you a me you bear? I mean, if Mark Owen had given me a cold, I'd have loved it. A me to you bear or a forever friends bear? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:32 Yeah, that would have been nice. Why are you looking, you're looking like you wouldn't have wanted. I think I would have found that embarrassing. What if you're getting into the privacy of your own living room? Yeah, I guess. In front of your mom and dad because you'd have been 12 if you'd have been 12 and mark owner knocked on the door you were the forever friends we'd have been like hello police he came to your door with a forever friends bear we called the police there's a man here with an evil stare so you got it to rhyme um trolls with heart boxers that's unlocked to memory oh i'd have liked one of them
Starting point is 00:15:13 trolls with a heart boxers oh do you remember trolls man they were great you loved a troll didn't you well i mean who wouldn't i'm not sure i ever loved a troll, didn't you? Well, I mean, who wouldn't? I'm not sure I ever had a troll. I feel like I might have had one that went on the end of my pencil with pink hair. I had quite a few, I think. I think trolls were my thing. You know, when you're younger and it's like, well, that's my thing. Like, you had Garfield, I had Snoopy.
Starting point is 00:15:42 What? Garfield? What? You were more forever friends I was more Troll dolls I thought you said Garfield has just threw me for a loop You liked Garfield I mean I had one Garfield
Starting point is 00:15:56 Oh my god did people think Garfield was my thing? Did people? Did I walk in a room and they went Oh do you spaghetti? Oh God Isn't it lasagna? See? did I walk in a room and they went oh do you spaghetti oh god isn't it lasagna see you don't even know what you like
Starting point is 00:16:11 because it wasn't my thing someone doesn't like Mondays ever walks in the room there goes the Garfield girl jeez I was the Garfield girl of Birmingham you like Garfield and Forever Friends. I was the Garfield girl of Birmingham. You're like Garfield and Forever Friends.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Forever Friends I'm fine with, but Garfield. Oh, she hates money. That's really why we laugh. Oh, now, I would have liked to receive one of these, but I wouldn't want to receive one of these now. A giant padded satin card. Listeners, listeners, there's big pauses here, and I feel like people are just going to think we've stopped to get one from market the market you think now though they don't exist do they no no they don't exist now no one's going to be buying one of them
Starting point is 00:16:58 quite like one now it's quite kitsch yeah like a retro what well you know trolls are your thing and you are quite kooky yeah i'd be sat with my trial and my pad in heart boxers loving mondays with my satin padded you see so far i can relate to none of these because I had no Valentines throughout my teenage years. I always, always wanted a hot box of chocolates. Is that on there? Like a satin covered hot box of chocolates. No, because I think that was only in Beverly Hills 90210. I don't know anybody who would have got a satin box of chocolates unless you were maybe French in Greece
Starting point is 00:17:46 and it was from Vince Fontaine. I bet it would have been nice, wouldn't it? Oh, it would have been lovely. You probably would have been abusing it, old Vince. How are you in that round score? Oh, yeah, this old thing.
Starting point is 00:17:59 No, no. I think it's at the bus stop. Can't relate to that. But this follows along with number six, anonymous cards posted to your house and trying to guess the handwriting we didn't need to guess because it was our nan's handwriting when you go to a girl's school you don't get that many valentine's cards it's from our nan i know a swirly old lady handwriting uh can't relate never had one to
Starting point is 00:18:22 my granddaughter my granddaughter can't... Don't know. We never had any anonymous. Did we? I did at university, but I knew who it was from. Well, then it's not anonymous. What do you mean? Oh, he thought it was anonymous.
Starting point is 00:18:35 Yes. It had like a question mark on it. I had a couple. And then... What? Oh, man. I had none? What did you do with this information
Starting point is 00:18:44 when you were like, oh, let's call him Bob. Oh, blimmin' hell, Bob sent me a card. What did you do with this information when you were like, oh, let's call him Bob? Oh, blimmin' hell, Bob sent me a card. Then what did you do? Did you go out with him? No. Oh, no, poor Bob. Oh, no, I had, well, I think I had two one year,
Starting point is 00:18:56 and I went out with one of them but didn't go out with the other one. And then there was one year, our first year, everyone got a Valentine's card, but we didn't know that everyone had got one and there was an american guy at university and in america everyone just gives everyone a valentine's card so everyone in the morning was like got valentine's cards and then it wasn't until later in the day that we realized we'd all got one and he sent them to everyone then we don't mean to be really rude to your club, that Valentine's card doesn't count. No, I wasn't counting that one in the other as well.
Starting point is 00:19:30 But the other one, I feel in the other one, you were Bridget Jones and one was Mark Darcy and one was... What's the other character called? Mark Darcy and... Daniel Cleaver. And Daniel Cleaver and you were bridget honestly i would i wish i had that as the two men because you say with that i could not be further from the truth i've never had an anonymous valentine's card and i don't i think that's it my boat has
Starting point is 00:20:01 floated my chance is gone it's not gonna happen and I'll be honest, I've never even had a direct message where a man sent me a picture with Willie either. No. No. I've never had anything like that. I'm not sad about it. Oh, my God, no, absolutely. If that popped up, I'd throw my phone.
Starting point is 00:20:19 Why don't they want to? I don't know, Claire. I don't know, but never had enough. We give enough vibes that are saying don't do that. Don't do that. I think that's quite a good vibe. No, actually, I'm going to backpedal. No one gives off vibes saying they want a willy picture sent to their phone.
Starting point is 00:20:38 I don't know. I've got a friend who really genuinely enjoys them. Okay, okay. There's a niche. Anybody else? No, nobody wants that. And if you listen to the podcast oh my god now what if what if the two men other than dad listening now are like oh let's go don't want one keep it in your pants but i would like i don't want one but if you do want to send me a heart box of satin chocolates i mean i don't even eat chocolate but just the box just the aesthetic
Starting point is 00:21:08 like the box to put your knickknacks in okay um oh i loved one of these in primary school a fake velvet rose from clinton's oh lovely oh do you know what they do at um erin's school which sounds terrifying and hilarious and they um do the kids can pay for um like not a choir but like a group of other kids to come in the classroom and sing oh no like a singing telegram a singing telegram but the thing is with erin she said that her friends have booked slots in with other mates so you'll be there in biology and these kids will bop in and be like sing you a little song and it's your mates and they're all like i love that oh my god erin is like i am going to die because she was she's not like us because we'd be up joining in wouldn't we we? Oh, I'd be in the choir. You'd be in the choir.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Yeah, so isn't that fun? They did have at school, the boys' school could buy a rose and then it would be sent to the girls' school to be given out. Emma looks sad. Did you not get one? Did you get one? Yeah, but only off the guy I was dating. Oh, my God. This is terrible.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Look, I'm leaving this podcast in a bit thinking on the Garfield girl who's never had an anonymous card and no one ever sent me a rose to school. Well, you can't even say any of your speeches because I'm such a loser. Purple Ronnie, Valentine's Poems. Oh yeah. What would it be like? well you can't even say any speeches because i'm such a loser um purple ronnie valentine's poems
Starting point is 00:22:45 oh yeah what would they be like that would be like i love your face i love your face it's a picture of art i get a stinky bum and i like to fart yeah raise the red smile it's a blue i love you as much as a big fair poo. And we're all black. Purple Ronnie, I say. Oh, you are. It's still my sense of humour. I go for him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Purple Ronnie. Bring him back unless he's still around. I don't know. We've come on to Forever Friends bears. Oh, Forever Friends necklaces. Oh, I don't remember that. No, but I do. As we know, I was known as forever friend girl
Starting point is 00:23:26 so um I did have a few forever friends and a pencil case yeah pencil tin it was like a forever friends necklace what a boy would give you or was it like a heart a heart because half a heart you wouldn't have that with your boyfriend would you i think it might be maybe a necklace that had a forever friend on i don't know i don't know but i never got a necklace either shocker shock shocker this old loser um and doing a formula to compare your names and see if you would marry yeah i do that for hours i don't think i've ever done it what what's the formula let's do me and gary barlow go i think i can't even remember now like gary barlow yeah emma emma wetter yeah or emma can't wait i could have chosen my husband I should have chosen my husband and then it's like how many L's are in the name
Starting point is 00:24:29 how many O's are in the name how many B's are in the name how many E's are in the name how many S's are in the name then you add all those numbers up and then if it's more than 10 you add them again until you get like until you get like a number out of 10
Starting point is 00:24:44 it's like 9 out of 10. It's like 9 out of 10 or something. I think that's it. And then you would try it with middle names. You try it without middle names, just first names, to get like the highest number. And what would you then do with that number? Just be like, oh, I love Mark Owen, 9 out of 10.
Starting point is 00:25:03 Well, no, because you would love him 10 out of 10. You mean Mark Owen would love you 9 out of 10? Yeah. what if i do me and my husband and it's like one divorce absolute divorce didn't do it i feel like i missed out on a whole lot of do that that was no man that was like 90 of our spare time I used to have um a pencil case and I would write on the pencil case um I think you need to do that work out your percentage with Stephen because this could be the beginning of the end or it could be a new lease of life in your marriage where you're like oh Stephen I didn't realize you love me 10 out of 10 okay so what I'm going to do also in the description I am going to work out the number
Starting point is 00:25:50 out of 10 that Stephen loves me we need to we need to find out whether that was the official I bet there's loads of people going no that's not how you do it but I think that's how you do it yeah could you send in me um a direct message me um on the phone box podcast or when we move to a different method because we'd like to try all the methods yeah because there's one where it's like it what you do like maths to work out how many children you're gonna have where you're gonna where you're gonna live in like a palace or a bungalow or like a cardboard box or like what you say you do all different maths to work out what your future life's gonna be i can't remember what that was i feel like i need to go back in time you know in this podcast guys i often say what would you do if you could go back in time i'd have to give
Starting point is 00:26:38 myself a real a pinch out on the arm and say like god bloody idiot first of all you need to do all these maths second of all packing, talking about Garfield, all the bloody time. Put down that lasagna. Put down the lasagna. Fourthly, cheer up on Monday, you miserable cow. And fifth, try and be a bit
Starting point is 00:26:57 more alluring so you at least get one anonymous Valentine's card. Maybe it was the lack of maths. Boys could feel it. They were like, she hasn't worked out the maths between me. Maybe it was the lack of maths. Boys could feel it. They were like, she hasn't worked out the maths between me. Maybe I stunk, Lizanne. Yeah, maybe they were like, oh, my God. Oh, God, here comes garlic, Emma.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Jesus Christ. Here comes a Garfield girl. What else about 90s Valentines? There was nothing like we have in the shops now, really, was there? It wasn't a huge thing not that I remember no I mean like now like bunting and tablecloths and I've got bunting up and a tablecloth and thrilled and Galentine's and all that kind of stuff thoughts on Galentine's because I for one absolutely love it but somebody got very angry on a YouTube video the other day was like no Valentine is just for me and my partner. Oh, well, that person needs to...
Starting point is 00:27:50 Keep subscribed because I need all the subscribes I can get. That person is a great follower with wonderful opinions. Look, everybody's entitled to their opinion. It's fine. But my opinion is I love Galentine's. I really like it. But Galentine's is the day before, isn't it? I said that to her. Galentine's. I really like it. But Galentine's is the day before, isn't it? I said that to her.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Galentine's can be just for you and your partner. Galentine's is for everyone else. I did say that to her. Because not everyone has a partner. I did reply back and say, actually, Galentine's is the day before. I mean, I do get the kids, like, just a little bit of tap because I just think it's kind of cute and I've done it since they were little and they get a little card and today i picked up ethan a messy um he's a footballer claire messy magazine and i got erin like a little just like some cute little bits
Starting point is 00:28:36 and it's half terms that's kind of like some cute little activities valentine's is about love isn't it it's not just about romance that's like the bad boys ink song don't talk about love don't talk about romance the opposite just talk about love and talk about romance um did you go on any like maybe fun dates in the 90s what was like anything that you think was particularly 90s or any gifts you might have got i remember one thing i did for the guy i was dating for valentine's day which always makes me chuckle because i made him a strawberry cheesecake that was a nice thing to do i mean it was out of the box it wasn't you didn't make you bought him a strawberry cheesecake? No, no, you get like the ingredients.
Starting point is 00:29:26 Oh, right, okay. And you put it together. And then I was like, I really want to eat this strawberry cheesecake. So I cut it into the shape of a heart and ate all the bits on the outside. And then he was like really, really touched. Like I can't believe you've made me a cake in the shape of a heart. That's so romantic. And I was like wiping the strawberries out.
Starting point is 00:29:44 And he'd be like, what's that on your top? I'd literally only done it because I wanted to eat some of it you were like scooping like the the crumbs from the bottom out your bra he's like oh that's so nice and I was like yeah you know what Claire I don't remember any Valentine's Day with any boys and then I gave him the cake and then you know what romantic date we went on we went to a comedy club with mom and dad who did you see i can't remember i think it might have been adam bloom i don't know but it was yeah we went to the glee club with mom and dad i can't remember one single thing i did for valentine's day i mean with obviously with steven but um i'm not sure in the 90s i must have done
Starting point is 00:30:32 maybe but i don't remember anything i know my first date that i went on a boy with to get was to go and see train spotting and it was me him and two of my friends that's not romantic is it yeah but you know what my My first effort was to see James try and spot him as well. And then afterwards we both admitted that we really wanted to see Toy Story. I thought you were going to say, and then afterwards we just both took heroin. We were both like, this is cool. I really want to see Toy Story. Yeah, me too. Let's go see Toy Story. Oh, Toy Story is a good film. Yeah. I'm not sure really what I was getting up to on Valentine's Day.
Starting point is 00:31:05 It doesn't sound like much, to be honest. Well, you obviously were somewhere because you weren't with me, mum and dad and... Was I probably just crying? Was I eating lasagna in my bedroom? You were eating the crumbs in my box. I was eating the crumbs. I was eating lasagna surrounded by my girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:31:24 I must have done something I don't remember anything I don't remember I remember I did get a few like cute romantic um presents from boyfriends I got a few like little rings which are cute um but I don't remember anything particularly standing out about Valentine's Day which is incredibly depressing I worked with a guy once who was like oh I don't believe in Valentine's Day it's stupid you should show your love for your partner all the year round which I guess but I said okay so what do you do year round and he was like what do you mean I was like well do you do you buy her flowers just on any old day or chocolates or whatever and he was like well no and i was like well this that's the point if you're just like buying her flowers once a week fair enough but
Starting point is 00:32:10 if you're never if you're saying valentine's day is just a day but not doing anything anytime anyway i convinced him he went out he bought his girlfriend a bunch of flowers box of chocolates and some really nice jewelry and he was like he was like, you've convinced me. And then she went round and she dumped him before he gave him to her. Oh, my God. He was furious. He came into work the next day absolutely furious with me. He's like, I spent a fortune. Well, you know what?
Starting point is 00:32:40 Maybe if you put a bit more effort in. Maybe. Maybe if you put a bit more effort in. Yeah. Maybe if you put a bit more effort in. Yeah, I do think men who say, or women who say, oh, it's just one day a year, you should show your love all year round. I hope you are. That's all I say. Yeah, I hope you are.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Or like, you know, some people, I've got lots of friends who do nothing for Valentine's Day and don't even. Nearly all of my friends don't, but they're. Yeah. But I do expect the bare minimum is a nice little cheeky card yeah but we just like we like celebrating everything i'm telling you now it was a card that said happy sunday i mean we'd get one every way i've got a pack of cards i've got a pack of cards that say happy pumpkin day for halloween and i couldn't work
Starting point is 00:33:20 out when to send them because i didn't know what it meant but i bought them when's pumpkin day like is that on Halloween? There's a whole pack upstairs, pack of eight cards. You were going to get one. And I thought, but at what point do I send this card? I love a card. I love a bunting. I love anything like that.
Starting point is 00:33:35 It is beautiful. I used to watch Beverly Hills 90210 and all the celebrations I did. And just absolutely just wish. Oh, I tell you what we could do, Claire. Before we go, go guys if you're still listening well done maybe like the top love films of the 1990s I've pulled up a list from collider.com I don't know what that is of some of the best rom-coms in the 1990s and I'm going to read through a few and I just want to hear your thoughts I'm going to read through a few. And I just want to hear your thoughts. I'm going to start off with Shakespeare in Love, 1998.
Starting point is 00:34:11 Earned Gwyneth and Oscar infamously in a very ill-fitting pink dress. Now, it feels like it's something that I should like, but I remember watching it and feeling this is a little bit boring. I couldn't tell you one single solitary plot point in it. Well, it's about William Shakespeare and he falls in love. Is it a true story? No. What do you mean it's not a true story?
Starting point is 00:34:39 What do I mean? We don't know whether William Shakespeare fell in love with an actress it's just what would have happened if William Shakespeare had fallen in love with the actress Do you know what the last sentence is? Shakespeare in love may be a little boring I agree I should become a film reviewer
Starting point is 00:34:59 and Judy Dent was where Elizabeth wasn't she I think I was not keen And Judi Dench was... Elizabeth wasn't sure, I think. She was. No. I was not keen. Okay. Clueless, 1995.
Starting point is 00:35:11 Very good. Well done. Very good. Well done. Absolutely Boston. I love Alicia Silverstone. This is the kind of clothes that my daughter wants to wear now. Paul Rudd in it.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Yeah. I didn't find him attractive in that, but now I love the man. Oh, no, he's attractive. He's like time. How does he? You didn't find Paul Rudd attractive in Clueless, but you did find Brian Adams attractive. I can't make it make sense.
Starting point is 00:35:38 That's just the heart wants what the heart wants. And I wanted Brian Adams, not Paul Rudd. Okay, back off um okay um ever after a Cinderella story 1998 with Drew Barrymore in I don't feel like I've seen that maybe we should see it yeah it feels like something I'd like yeah um I tell you what I was talking about the other day um never been kissed Claire we need to go through the plot of Never Been Kissed. Oh, it's horrific. If you've never seen Never Been Kissed,
Starting point is 00:36:10 Drew Barrymore has to go back to school. Why? I can't remember why. So I recently saw a review of this, though. The plot is very heavy in my mind. Go on. She's working for a newspaper. She's a grown-upup but she's never been kissed and the people in the newspaper are like we don't understand teenagers nowadays why don't
Starting point is 00:36:30 you go undercover in into a school find out what teenagers are into and then you can write a report about it so she goes in with like a camera on her so that she can see what's going on in the school. And the people in the newspaper plays watch the camera and like go, whoa, look at the sexy young girls. And then she falls in love with one of the students, even though she is a grown woman. And then her older brother, who is David Arquetteette. David Arquette. He joins the school too. And he starts going out with one of the 16-year-olds. And then she falls in love with the teacher. And the teacher falls in love with her.
Starting point is 00:37:12 But the teacher thinks that she's 16. And she's not. And then it all comes out that she's a grown-up. And the teacher is like, oh, well, I don't like you anymore. Because you lied to me. Even though he liked her when she was a teenager but now we know she's a grown-up he's not interested and so she writes an article saying this is what I did and I feel really bad about it um and I've still never
Starting point is 00:37:36 been kissed but if that teacher does like me then I will be standing on the baseball field before the match and everyone goes there and then he runs out at the end and kisses her in front of the whole school. I remember at the time absolutely sobbing because I thought that was so romantic but now you've put it like that it's weird also I was thinking so many weirds another weird one 13 going on 30 which is where a 13 year old is transported into a 30 year old body and he's trying to snog a man what about big big is so inappropriate so inappropriate but why do you think we why do you think we're all like oh these are great and now we're like what the hell man, man? I don't know. It is weird that, because we were children. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:28 Why were the adults thinking this was okay? I don't know. I probably, to be honest, when I was younger, I thought I'd quite like to be grown up and snogging Mark Ruffalo, to be honest. Then again, yeah, that's a great film. And we'll just do one last film. I am going to,
Starting point is 00:38:47 Never Been Kissed is up, was on the list. You pick it, Claire. What's your favourite rom-com from the 90s? Well, Bridget Jones. You can't have Bridget Jones.
Starting point is 00:38:57 You can't have Bridget Jones. Okay. Oh, but mine, I really, okay. I was going to say one that no one's watched apart from me, which is, what's it called, with Matthew Broderick and Meg Ryan.
Starting point is 00:39:10 Ferris Bueller. Claire, a lot of people have seen Ferris Bueller. Addicted to Love. Oh, guys, if you've not seen Addicted to Love, that is a great film, yeah. But, so if not that, you've got my, you make ryan in meg ryan was my favorite yeah are you sure that's not 80s oh i don't know i don't think no not you've got mail isn't 80s that was like my comfort like i would watch you've got mail followed by addicted to love if i you know feel a bit under the weather or i a bit of comfort, that would be my two.
Starting point is 00:39:46 September the 1st hits and I want to be Meg Ryan and you've got mail. The only thing I would say is she always goes out, no bag, no pockets, wear her keys, wears a purse. No bag, no pockets, but carrying a giant pumpkin. Only thing that I can think of when I'm watching that film. I used to get back in the house house that's all i'm thinking do you know i think of the famous interview with michael parkinson where she was really mean that was in the 90s she was good though oh she was good bring back meg man addicted to love watch it but then don't
Starting point is 00:40:21 tell me if it's actually really problematic and i've forgotten i mean i actually it's quite problematic because they do quite bad things to their like stalking aren't they and they're like watching them through the window with binoculars uh strawberries and everything because they know she's allergic he's allergic to strawberries so he'll have a big allergic reaction it is quite bad but it's also good. I feel like this is the beginning of my film review career. It is quite bad, but it's also quite good. Get her on the telly, man. Get me in the Guardian.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Get her in the Guardian. Over, short but sweet. We all know what's what. Right. Thank you so much for joining this absolute love fest. Guys, if you are out there and you are feeling the love, leave me a five-star review. After this absolute disaster of a podcast. Send me a trowel with some hot boxer shorts on, please.
Starting point is 00:41:15 Send Emma some Garfield stuff. And we would love that. And also let us know if you wanted to do another special. So we've done Halloween. If you want to go back and listen to that, we've done Valentine's, we've done Christmas. What else could we do? We need to think of something else fun
Starting point is 00:41:26 that we could chat about um probably won't do an easter special that much to talk about you are those buddies hey we could talk about water ship down god that's absolutely terrifying bye my loves i will see you next week for another episode of the Phone Box Podcast. I hope you've enjoyed this episode. See you over at Brim and Me Too or the Phone Box Podcast. Thank you very much, Claire. And could you leave us with a rendition of your favourite love song? Go. With the tears in our eyes And I wonder why, I wonder why
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