The Phonebox Podcast With Emma Conway - Daisy Upton: Broken Hearts, Blur V Oasis & Ladettes

Episode Date: April 17, 2023

Who gets revenge on a teenage heartbreaker? Daisy Upton that's who! We also chat Blur V Oasis. How the concept of 'Ladettes' wasn't really as good as we thought it was and if she still fancies Ronan Keating. We also chat if Daisy is ready for her own children to become teens.If you're a parent yourself, Sunday Times bestseller Daisy aka Five Minute Mum, has a whole host of amazing books on offer to help with everything from starting school to long journeys. Be sure to check out Five Minute Mum here . She also has a brand new kids book out in June entitled 'Starting School'. You can also follow Daisy on instagram where she regularly uploads helpful tips.For more of me follow @brummymummyof2 on Instagram, YouTube, Facebook and TikTok.If you have any guest suggestions or topics you would like me to cover email [e-mail] and be sure to tag so I can see where you are listening!Editing by Soundtruism. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Call 1-866-531-2600 or visit connectsontario.ca. Please play responsibly. Hello lovers and welcome back to another episode of the Phone Box Podcast with me, Emma Conway. Hope you're all well. Hope you're having're having a lovely lovely week don't forget to whatever you're doing now stop take a photo I don't know I mean preferably not if you're in the shower but I'm not adverse to that and send it to me on social media so I can see where you are listening to this episode of the podcast which today stars Daisy Upton also known as Five Minute Mum across social media and one of her on her many many Sunday Times best-selling books where she helps parents with children do all sorts of things like activities at home, getting them ready for school, all that good

hard stuff that us parents have to do. So Daisy is on this week's episode and we chat all sorts of things we talk about blur versus oasis we talk about the concept of ladex we talk about the year I pretended to like the cure when really we all knew I love to take that so I hope you enjoy Daisy's episode now make sure you come back at the end because I had to do a few fact checks I had to google because there was a couple of things coming up in this episode and I know you lot would be shouting at me at home going Emma you should know that so I did a fact check I'll come back I don't want to make the same mistake as I did in the man versus baby episode where we couldn't remember um the name for Paul Robinson aka Stefan Dennis Dennis, aka Nolamega Field.

If you've not listened to that, that will make no sense. How about after this episode, go back and listen to that episode. Right, here's Daisy and I'll see you at the end for a little chat. Hello Daisy and welcome to the Phone Box podcast. I always ask this as a first question and I preempted for you to work it out. What year was it when you were 14? That is not my strong point, but I've worked out that it was 1998. 1998. So are we talking Spice Girls era?

Is it coming to the end of Take That or Take That Split Up? I think Take That had split up by then and we were into kind into kind of gary barlow strange zone and robbie williams kind of you say gary barlow strange zone uh he went into that strange zone where everyone was like what's he doing we all thought he was gonna be the big one and then robbie's coming from the outside lane but in my heart gary barlow is all the big one um where were you where you gonna be phoning from what phone box would you be phoning from where were you in my hometown in suffolk and uh yeah living with my mom and dad so up the road from us oh do you have any siblings i've got a younger brother who's two years younger than me yeah so what kind of school did you go to i just went to a very normal comprehensive school yeah

where we had the uniform of just oh do you know what I'm nearly wearing it today that's really cool it was like a bright blue sweatshirt and a bright blue polo shirt and you could wear any black trousers you wanted and any black shoes and I took full advantage of that and had some black flared cords that do you know what that's very modern black trousers in the 1990s yeah not on my school we had to wear um skirts that used to roll up really really really high so you'd have a big band around your stomach and then it'd be like a mini skirt where were you in the hierarchy of the school were you cool were you a geek or as a mum's mum says, a boffin, which is a very 1990s word. That is! I haven't heard that in years.

That's right. I said, she said I was a boffin. I was like, what? You've really got a little time machine. Where were you? Do you know what, though? I have seen pictures of her from that age with her lovely big glasses, the Jabala glasses.

And I think that fits the, it fits it really nicely. Yeah. I was kind of there. I was, I was, I was in this weird middle ground because I liked sport and I was quite good at sport so I like occasionally hung out with the sporty kids who were like a bit more in the hierarchy of the cool kids so they sort of knew me but I definitely wasn't in there with them but when they wanted someone to do sport I was yeah but in normal normally I was just hanging out with my mates and we were in this kind of very low-key quiet all did our schoolwork pretty geeky you

know cracked on with things with the boffins and happily so like the best people were the boffins as far as I'm concerned and still are oh that sounds very nice what was your bedroom like I think a bedroom gives a good insight did you have have posters? Sarah had inflatables. I had an inflatable chair. Yeah, I definitely had. Inflatables must have passed me by because I had not one inflatable thing in my bedroom. I had lots of posters. What kind of stuff was in your room? So I remember my first ever post posters was I had a middle page of a Smash Hits magazine with Ronan Keating holding a silk red heart. And I had that on one cupboard wall. And then the other, I had some very, my dad worked with computers.

So he had, we had a computer and a printer quite early on. And I printed off some Leonardo DiCaprio pictures, like very grainy, fuzzy pictures. What kind of we are we talking Titanic no I think this was like Romeo and Juliet oh Romeo oh that's that fell my room was I had this thing where I wanted three shades of purple oh oh nice relaxing so one wall was like a lilac one's like a indigo and one's like you know and then my carpet was like a blue oh my god my mum must have been like what is she doing and then I had all like a bit similar to this bed like lots of black sort of accessories that were like you know lots of candles with like swirly bits yeah oh sophisticated I felt like I was. Yeah, I think that sounds quite good.

Do you still fancy Leonardo DiCaprio and Ronan Keating today? Ronan Keating, no. I went out of that phase very quickly. I think, yeah, I don't know why. I think he's a handsome man. I think as an older man, he's very handsome. I like it. I watch the one show sometimes he's on.

I think he's a very nice man. Ronan, if you're listening. Ronan, if you're listening. We love you. And I went to a boys' own concert. But yeah, I kind of listening, we love you. I do still, and I went to a boys own concert, but yeah, it wasn't, I kind of like moved

as I got older, I definitely changed and like sports, I got into like lots of sports players and stuff, but I still have the real soft spot

for Leonardo DiCaprio. Like I saw him in Wolf of Wall Street and I was like, even though the character is so vile, I still was a bit like, look at him.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's still got, however, I find him only going out with women in the 23 to be questionable I mean totally as a person incredibly questionable and one of my friends was like how can you like him if you see he's bizarre what he does and I was like but but just pure looks which is very shallow I'm just talking about and anyway the kind of only access you have really to him is characters and films. Romeo and Juliet, though, that was, oh, the soundtrack.

So good. Oh, it was just the sound of Claire Danes. Did you ever watch My So-Called Life? Have you seen that with Claire Danes in? No, I never saw that. Oh, my God. People who are listening will have done you out. I think there's only like one season and then it just finished

and it hit her and the love interest was Gerard Leto oh really yeah with floppy hair it was just so lovely what kind of music were you into so I'm I'm still insane I have no no cool taste in me whatsoever I just liked what I liked so I was still listening to Kylie Minogue and Jason Donovan in the late 90s when everyone else was like, no, no, no, we've moved on from them. And I was still like, especially for you in my bedroom. Oh, you're still doing the locomotion. I absolutely loved it. I loved Mariah Carey.

I had her music box cassette and I used to just play it on full volume and my mum would be like, can you turn off that screaming woman? Banging on my door. I'm on my head brush. I'm like, get me. It's Mariah. I love it. I've never listened without you.

Oh, I'm so sorry to everybody listening. Listen, your ears are mute immediately. What's your favourite Mariah track? I'm trying to think. Get her on Top of the Pops. Actually, Top of the Pops isn't on anymore. That finished, I don't know, 25. Top of the Pops, though.

Did you used to watch that? I used to watch a little bit of top of the pop sometimes I can remember vividly my granddad shouting at the tv when I was watching it once because um Liam Gallagher was singing on it and he said he's not singing he's just he's singing out his nose it's stupid and he was like turn that off turn that rubbish off and I was like and you were like it's if you had to choose between Blur and Oasis who would you have gone for I think I need to have this as a permanent question Blur or Oasis which one were you Oasis Oasis what's the story Morning Glory my mum and dad loved the album they used to play it a lot on the weekends I feel I can't really remember I feel at the time I might have bought was it country house it was up

against uh yeah was it was it I can't remember now was it roll with it versus country house yeah I don't know which Oasis night was but yeah but I think I went with blur because I like Damon album but I think now with hindsight Oasis all day every day but I think I was just because he was a very pretty boy wasn't he Damon was yeah he was an absolute dream but talking of dream boats could you reveal you don't have to give names I want to hear about your first kiss this is something I am obsessed with so my first kiss I was probably about 14 actually actually, when you say, so talking like 98. And my friend's parents went away and she threw a house party like we do.

And I remember somebody put hooch in the fish tank or fish line. It was a big thing. But that night, one of the boys I really liked said, oh, want to go and sit on sit out on the step for a bit and we're going to start on the step and then we have a little kiss and I was like and but nothing came of it and I was really sad because I was thinking kind of thought this was the start of something that was like Romeo and Juliet no like thing but it never it never came to anything so I was a bit like sort of sitting at home waiting for the phone to ring I think he rang me once and said do you want to go hang out here and I was like I think at the time I'd been asked out

on a on like a proper date by another boy and um and my mum I remember my mum saying well you should go with the one you said yes to first and I was like I don't I don't like him as much so I want to go with you and I just sort of ditched him the other guy I I I did that I I yeah I I've done that you're so flippant with your people's feelings when you're young aren't you you're just I remember like being with one boy but then oh I actually prefer that boy better like virtually within the space of an hour you just kind of swap around but also you just I know it sounds really brutal you just didn't care did you there was no like worrying and you're kind of hedging your bets all the time aren't you because you're

like oh which one which who will have me but also I quite here's my like wish list so then who's the actual reality of the people that will actually like me did you have a boy that you had because I had a boy I had an ultimate crush on for years and I mean nothing I don't think I even had a conversation with because I went to a girl's school he was at the boys school and I used to just pass him um if anybody's listening from Birmingham there's a place called Pigeon Park which is gravestones really classy gravestones and all the boys would hang out around the gravestones and I used to just walk past and I'd be like and you know what um he's actually

gay now so with with hindsight um perhaps I would never stood a chance but yeah did you have a boy like that no I had I had a big crush yeah I had a guy that I really liked for years and I remember going on a German exchange trip so we were on the coach and I was thinking this is my chance because I've got loads of time just sort of passing passing notes on the on the coach and stuff like that and he was just like never never the meanest and I was really like heartbroken I think he says like really mean like have you seen have you looked in the mirror or something like that to me and I was like really heartbroken but years later I was in nightclub and he all of a sudden took an interest in me. He came up to me and all night we were dancing and stuff and we had a bit of a kiss.

And at the end of the night, I like led him out as if I was going to go with him. And I went in to kiss him as if like, and then I was like, have you seen yourself in the mirror? Never again. I walked off and he was stood there going, what, what, what? And I just, I just walked off and I never spoke to him again that is a plot from home and away you are not telling me that that is that is a neighbor's plot that is you but he didn't I mean he didn't remember it so he was just like what is that strange girl talking about because there's no way that would be in his memory but obviously it was like it burned into mine and I just kind of like led him on a little bit and then was like

see you later um and went and I went and got a kebab and I went home and you went to bed feeling like a triumphant you were like I'm Kylie Minogue and I just said do you know what I absolutely love that but the thing I was very grateful that there was no social media so grateful because when you used to split up with people you just move on to one of their mates or something you just be like right I'm now going out with your mate and you wouldn't have to see them tagging in places with so and so you wouldn't have to see selfies on Instagram you literally were just like on to the next one um I'm very thankful that because I don't think my little heart could have coped with it and I feel like I really feel a bit sad for teenagers now because I think in that time you're sort of figuring yourself out and you're trying on all these different things

you're trying on all these looks I had lots of different outfits that now I would cringe at and try and you're trying on people aren't you and styles and who who do I who are my people who's my crowd and and when you're making the mistakes it would be so difficult to have them all recorded forever and I'm just yeah I'm so grateful I didn't have those recorded and that I could just kind of And when you're making the mistakes, it would be so difficult to have them all recorded forever. And I'm just, yeah, I'm so grateful I didn't have those recorded and that I could just kind of do them and figure it all out and and do it. Yeah. All behind closed doors, really. And especially some of the outfits. I need to know about you. I want to hear your what like your absolute worst fashion faux pas that you still think about it today. And you're like, oh, I went through a phase of like trying like I say I'm trying phases I went through a phase of like bag you know very baggy jeans

sort of like Avril Lavigne style like thing and I think it was because I liked some boys at the time who were really into like skateboarding and wearing the you know the ball bearing chains and the baggy t-shirts so I went through a phase where I made traipsed my mum around these shops that were out in the middle of nowhere to get like these really baggy trousers and and obviously like you know kind of like a little bit of the goth kind of feel to it I'm a ginger so it just looks so weird Avra was a bit ginger was she not she was a bit ginger but I was like bright orange hair you know and it She was a bit ginger, but I was like bright orange hair, you know, and it just, it didn't fit me, but I was trying it on

and I had, you know, all the necklaces and the black t-shirts and stuff. And I look back now, I think like Millennium, New Year 2000, it was around then. And like, there's a picture of me like, yeah, with like a full on black eyeliner and like grungy look. And I was like, oh God. You were like like happy 2000s i remember wearing a cure t-shirt i went into sutton hmv and i bought a cure t-shirt i didn't

i knew friday i'm in love i didn't have one single solid i just love take that but i thought if i wore a cure t-shirt with some flowery clots and Doc Martens shorts, the boys are going to love it. I mean, they didn't love it, but you do. I did pretend for a while that I was like really into this kind of like, yeah, I love Popwilly itself and I love all this kind of stuff. Yeah, I think you all do that because you're working it out, aren't you? You're thinking, well, maybe I am that person, so I'll put on the Cure t-shirt and then maybe I'll listen to an album

and get into it, you never know. And then you realize that you're not yeah I did did you ever do that it's I don't know if it had gone by the time you were my age then did you remember when you used to order tapes through the post I don't remember doing that no I went to Woolworths to get my tape yeah you'd have like a little brochure and you could all you could tick like five tapes and they'd come in the post and I think you can send that I remember once getting like Nirvana The Cure you know all the ones and listen to it and go no it's where's that where's let's get ready to rumble I don't this is this is not my cup of tea. FanDuel Casino's exclusive live dealer studio has your chance at the number one feeling,

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located in Ontario. Gambling problem? Call 1-866-531-2600 or visit connectsontario.ca. Please play responsibly. I went through an intense reggae period because some people would be a double, a double cassette of reggae songs. And at one point on my cassette player, that was like, I had like four cassettes and that was one of them. So I just used to listen to it. So sometimes now there'll be like a really old reggae song. at one point on my cassette player that was like I had like four cassettes and that was one of them so I just used to listen to it sometimes now there'll be like a really old reggae song I'm like oh I know this song just like bop along I used to love it I used to listen to it all the time but yeah I think it was it must it maybe it'd come free with something else or somebody had bought it for me for Christmas or something and I I just used to think it was great

and listen to it so yeah because sometimes in the days you get like free with newspapers or free with magazines you get like little the tapes that were in like the cardboard and you get like little yeah you put them on all CDs I've still got some I don't even have a CD player but I just can't you only hear a song isn't it from and it comes on and you're just like instantly like transported yeah like two princes you know if you want to buy me flowers I was whizzed all the way back back in time it's just so oh it's just such a funny old time isn't it because there's so many lows but also so many lovely little high bits as well what was your kind of have you got anything that was a real success story from when you were a teenager I loved my sport so I was just dead into doing

stuff that anything that was to do with sport for me was a really big deal so that was where I put everything else to one side I didn't care what anyone thought of me I didn't I just wanted to be good at what I was doing and I loved going to I saw I played netball and I did athletics to quite a high level and I used to really enjoy that because that was where I felt like I was actually myself this is who I am and when I was hanging out with boys in that situation I felt like I had the confidence to say what I thought and what I felt because I knew what I was talking about and I'd grown up in a sporty my my dad's a football coach my mum was a PE teacher I grew up in a sporty family and I knew what I was talking about and I'd grown up in a sporty my dad's a football coach my mum was a PE teacher I grew up in a sporty family and I knew what I was talking about

so for me that was always when I made the county netball team and then I got made captain as a teenager that was really crucial in my formative years to like you can put your mind to something and do it and there'd been a period of time I was I grew really tall really suddenly when I was a teenager so I went from being relatively sort of average height smallish to like one of the tallest and because I did that I was very like spaghetti tall and skinny but not very strong which isn't very good for a sport like netball and I trialed for the county and they said to me you're not you're not strong enough to take to take on this level and I was like heartbroken and I went home and I was like right that's it I'm gonna get really physically strong so I started playing more and training more and doing stuff to make my body stronger and then I went back and they asked me to come come and play and they said oh we feel like

you're ready for it now and pulled me back into the team and then I got my captain so for me that kind of journey was like a really important time and it also made me I think what was quite good about sport was it made me less bothered about how my body looked to other people because I just wanted it to be the best it physically could to achieve this thing I wanted to achieve so I've got massive feet I've got a size eight nine feet um which would a nightmare for getting heels or boots they just squish my feet into heels on a night out and be in agony size five like that yeah i didn't care because i was like my feet are great for netball because they're really big you know they'll bounce me off up high or whatever it led me on to go to loughborough university where i did study sport science in the end so check you

out your sport i don't think i think the only sport I did was maybe running for a bus I don't think I did any extra curricular stuff at all apart from going and sitting outside like Howard Donald's house and this is the thing lots of my best friends didn't either and they were all sort of baffled by me like you know I'd go off and do my sport and I had to come back and hang out with them and we'll talk about other stuff no I think it's great it's much better than getting on a blooming train and going to Stoke-on-Trent to go and see if Robbie Williams is in his mum's house which is what I used to do no it's a perfectly good use of time he'd come out and tell us to f off yeah no but I tell you what when we started doing that when I was 14 and my sister was 12 that's the same age as as uh Erin so if Erin said to me

um by the way I'm off to Stoke today to go and sat outside of mum's a man's house I'd be like uh no you're not what are you we just had a bit more freedom didn't we we just kind of there was no mobile phones well maybe you had mobile phones did you perhaps um sort of late teens yeah I did we did but um I remember having to borrow my dad's for years to text friends like and you know you'd have a certain limit of characters that you could do so trying to get your whole message in or just like or you'd have to wait till after six because then BT gave you an hour free or something so i'd call my mates on them we text to say are you free tonight and then but it was only ever like borrowing my dad's phone and one of my friends had a phone um for a long time until yeah probably my late teens i'd say more like 17 i think i was 20 when i got when i was at uni i got

my first phone but we me and my sister had to fight over the, when it hits six, the phones get cheaper, wouldn't it? So you'd be like, I'm going to phone, so I said, no, I'm going to, so you'd be like, and you'd be sat on the stairs like that. And your mum would be going, trying to climb over you with the washing to try and get upstairs again. And what did you talk about? Because like, I think I was hanging out with those people at school all day. And then I'd ring my best mate and talk for two hours. And what were we talking about? Hours. I don't know. And also I used to write pen pal letters as well. So I'd ring my best mate and talk for two hours and what were we talking about hours I don't know and also I used to write pen pal letters as well so I'd be doing pen pal letters hours and hours we would I have no idea what it's because I I had no gossip or drama I never had a boyfriend till I was 18 so I was probably just going everywhere everywhere I found heaven or something

like that but I hours and hours and hours and that is something I'm trying to like introduce with um Erin because now she's 12 at school I think the temptation is just for them to whatsapp quite a lot and I have said you know why don't you just like phone up and do a bit more conversation but I think that's something that's probably a little bit lacking lacking these days are you worried about your kids growing up as teenagers massively I mean I just don't know I was talking to a friend about this actually because I just have no experience of that like um people come sort of ask me for advice on little kids because that's my training background is the development of children from sort of ages uh one to five and I feel really secure in that I'm really

happy in that environment with those ages and now Ewan's eight is going to be nine this year and he's approaching that kind of time where things start to get quite complicated and their little emotions start to become more complex and different and and I just feel totally out of my depth and so some people are saying oh you're going to write a book for like you know starting secondary school I'm like definitely not no I don't know yeah it is I'll be searching out all the other books of people that actually have information I mean you were a secondary school teacher weren't you so do you feel like you have a bit of an understanding no no no no you'd think I'd be like oh I kind of have a good understanding of the hormonal kind of ups and downs where there's my

husband is like completely absolutely baffled yeah um they it's also things like you spend years wishing them to sleep in late and then and then they start sleeping in late and then you're trying to get them up to go to school which is just and it's just like maddening because you've just said just sleep a few more hours and now it's like trying to get like you're just screaming and also they they need you in like a completely different a completely different way they still need you but it's more like emotional support and obviously you have like friendship issues did you have any friendship issues when you were a teenager because yeah I'm sure I was forever falling out of people yeah I was I mean

we were in quite a big group of girls at secondary school um that you know we all got on but there was yeah times when you were closer to one of them or the other one and then there would be jealousy always like uh did you hear what she said did you do you know all of that kind of stuff it is friendship is oh my dog's growling at the app that she's growling at the angle of friendship is a real difficult one to navigate because I think I mean this just could be a me issue but it I've spoken to other mums who've got girls who are similar sort of age it triggers something it almost takes me back to being a teenager so I have to remember I'm not a teenager now I'm an adult and

try and speak about things rationally because you're like oh why don't they like you so it is a whole a whole thing I don't know what it's going to be like with Ethan I've no idea because he's just like moving along living his best life um but it is it is it is a strange a strange thing it's definitely a challenge and I think my mum handled it really really well because she would listen to me a lot so I would obviously come home and just spill my guts to her about she would always make me a cup of tea and a scone always and every end of every day and we just sit on the sofa and we'd watch like um what's that tv show 15 to 1 15 to 1 and countdown and then she would just let me talk. So I would just like unload all this,

like that drama, drama, drama, friendship stuff to her. And she, I don't remember her really ever saying very much back. I think she was just kind of letting me. And then every so often she'd interject with a kind of like, Oh, well, you know, maybe it's because of this or, you know, maybe it's that, you know, she was very good at kind of letting it letting the chips fall where they may and letting me kind of figure it out and then only sort of saying something when she really felt like I needed to hear yeah I try and do that as well and go well actually if you'd maybe but it is it is it is difficult um yeah but you're learning aren't you when you're a teenager you're learning about the next boy and the next friend and it was just it's brutal it is isn't it

it's a bit of a jungle I think and being a teenager is absolutely brutal I think we've touched you I can guess that you are glad you're a teenager then and wouldn't want to be a teenager now is am I right definitely I just feel like I'm so glad that it was in in the 90s in the early 2000s and it was that period of time because I think we were very lucky to have that um freedom like you said like you were free and I felt very free definitely I was given lots of freedom and it was nice and I don't think our children will have the same um but you know they'll figure it out in their own way at their own time of life it's just different isn't it and they'll they'll work it out and they'll probably look back nostalgically on there oh yeah remember when we had our fly phones yeah do you remember when we didn't have

flying cars i mean i'm being a bit back to the future there but my dad's a shirt and there's going to be hover boots at some point there's got to be hover boots at some point yeah i think whatever area you look back what i was talking you know when so we're talking about like you know what 25 years ago or whatever in the 90s that would have been us thinking about the 70s like it's just it's just crazy isn't it um i do think that the children today though are to have perhaps an easier way to find their tribe I think hopefully they won't feel that they have to wear a cute cure t-shirt to fit in maybe because they'll be able to like find people online or stuff like that role models I hope I hope that's the case very much yeah like they can yeah lots of role models which I think is good and a lot

more like diverse representation that people can see so which I think is good and lots more like diverse representations that people can see so like my kids talk to me now about like you know different setups for families like you know different setups for families and it's just part of their world and like Florence um wants to dress up as Dolly Parton for World Book Day um and she uh was thinking about wearing a wig for it. And then she said, oh, everyone's going to laugh at me. And I said to her, well, what does Dolly say when people laughed at her? And she's like, oh, well, Dolly says, you know, it doesn't matter.

And you should just be true to who you are and do what you want to do. I know. And I was like, and that's Dolly's message. And I said, and look at Dolly, she's really successful and she's rich and famous and she's brilliant at what she does. And it's because she was, even when people were laughing and saying she was silly and she's really successful and she's rich and famous and she's brilliant at what she does and it's because she was even when people were laughing and saying she was silly and she's too much and she's over the top she was just true to herself and I said that Florence like you can take that message with you and those role models are out there there's loads of them for our children so yeah I really hope that they lots of them feel more free and able to be who they really are a bit earlier and less of that yeah pressure to

to try and fit in we didn't have any role model we had ladets remember ladets i mean that ain't a role model it was very bald sarah and then and the role model was they cut all their hair short and they got drunk and we're like looks like. Be like a man. I had real short hair. Yeah, be like, we're actually calling you a ladette. We're calling you a ladette, girls. How do you feel?

And we were like, do you know what? That's great. I'll take it. I'll cut all my hair off and I'll just drink lager. Thank you very much. That was it, wasn't it? And have you seen that thing online

about how, you know the film Father of the Bride? Yeah. And like the parents in it are like meant to be in their 40s. See that? And like, parents in it are like meant to be in their 40s how they look it's like she's like wearing pearls and like a jumper she's meant to be like 42 or something yeah and you think yeah like the role models like then there wasn't any like

you you hit 35 and that was it yeah or do you love that film though that is a that is a it makes me want to wear trainers when i got married because it's just like a cracking book well daisy thanks so much for joining the phone box podcast and i will speak to you soon and uh see you later thanks for having me bye bye totally loved chatting with daisy she's such a delight be sure to go and follow on social media uh not only has she got books but also she does like these fab videos on Facebook and Instagram if you're looking for some inspiration with your little kiddos um and here are some fact checks with you we need a theme tune somebody make one fact check and that's terrible okay fact check number one is Blur

versus Oasis Blur with country house oasis with roll with it blur did in fact win so i backed the winning horse um purely because i like damon alburn and i liked his hair and i actually went on to have posters of liam gallagher up in my bedroom there is a little bit of you know a little fact for you because that is how fickle that is how fickle teenage emma was also I didn't make it up there was a company where tapes would come in the post and I know some of you would have been shouting at the radio or whatever the heck you're listening to me on on your gramophone I don't know the Britannia it was the Britannia music club please contact me

please direct message me. But remember if you can remember the tape club and you pick tapes and you get tapes sent to your house and I think if you didn't want them you could send them back but you never sent them back so you ended up keeping them. I can't remember. It seemed like a con. You maybe got one free but ended up being subscribed to them for I don't know a decade let me know please let me know and that I'm not talking rubbish right guys thanks so much for tuning in to this week's episode I will be back same time same place next week be sure to come and chat with me over on Instagram and YouTube and all those good places brummie mummie of two I love you lots and have a truly truly

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