The Phonebox Podcast With Emma Conway - Diaries, Dash & NAF NAF: Siobhan Hannah Murphy (Interior Curve)
Episode Date: June 10, 2024Who came prepared to The Phonebox Podcast with her 1990's diaries? Siobhan Hannah Murphy that's who! The amazing interior creator and TV presenter, also known as Interior Curve, let's us into her teen...age secrets, reminds me of Dash and the Sweater Shop. She also confesses her love for Robson Green!Be sure to go and follow Siobhan here on instagram. She's amazing! For more of me follow @brummymummyof2 on Instagram, YouTube, Facebook and TikTok and follow the @phoneboxpodcast account on Instagram for polls and nostalgic fun.If you have any guest suggestions, topics you would like me to cover email admin@brummymummyof2.co.uk and be sure to tag so I can see where you are listening!#90s #90smusic Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Hello and welcome to another episode of the Phone Box Podcast with me Emma Conway. How the devil are you? I hope you are having a lovely week. As you know, weather check, it's
grey and I think that's due to the fact that I bought a parasol yesterday and I have absolutely
jinxed the weather so it's probably going to be snowing
in a couple of days. However I've got a very tanned looking luscious lovely on the podcast
today. She came on I was like oh my gosh you look so pretty. I've got the lovely Siobhan, how are you?
I'm very well thanks. Well it's good to be on a Monday morning. You're gorgeous. Right, tell everybody where they can find you before we start.
So I am on Instagram.
My handle is interiorcurve.
So it's a lot of interiors and some fashion stuff on there.
A lot of colour and a lot of fun.
Yeah, and you do lots of ranges with different people.
Are there any ranges that people can go out
and grab at the moment?
Yeah, I've got a few actually.
To be honest, I've been concentrating this last year on my own ranges.
So I've got like a wallpaper range, fabric range,
and I'm also doing some collaborations with some beautiful upholstery companies.
So my fabrics on lovely pieces of of furniture headboards etc um all the infos on
my insta and my website as well and it's all gorgeous bright colorful it's not minimal we're
not thinking because i'm not a minimalist it's definitely the opposite of minimalism
maximalist and you know what i love it and i'm here for it right i asked you before
we went live what year you're 14 and it was 1995 wasn't it that's right yeah so you're a year
younger than me and i like to ask people if they can guess the top songs in the year they were 14
so if you i've got the top four in front of me so what do you think was number one
if you can get any of the top four you win nothing but my love do you know what i'm so terrible with
years um and songs my my favorite year for music was 1988 that was like literally the
not just like my favorite ever ever tunes in 1995 i don't want to give you a clue was it like the klf and stuff like that and
no that's in fact i'm looking at the top four okay here's here's a clue number one and number
three in the top four were a duo robson and Jerome. God. Is that Matt?
Literally, I was obsessed with those two.
So number four TV show, weren't they, that everybody watched?
What was it called? Soldier, Soldier.
Yes, and everybody loved that.
And then literally, it was like, obviously, like,
their management company were like, right, how are we going to milk this?
I know, let's bring out a song.
So you've got number four was Back For Good by Take That.
Brilliant.
Number three was I Believe slash Up On The Roof by Robson and Giroux.
Number two was Gangster's Paradise by Qlio.
And number one was Unchained Melody slash There'll Be Bluebirds
Over The White Glyphs Of Dover.
Oh, why did we have no music taste in 1994?
Also, like, they weren't exactly like the hunkiest of men.
Sorry, Robson Jerome, if you're listening.
But they were just too, it was very,
maybe they were Housewives' favourite, do we think?
Perhaps all the mums fancied them.
I don't know.
I think I had a crush on the more the little
one what was he called was he i'm gonna say i'm gonna say robson yeah yeah i had a little crush
on him but you know again yeah it's not looking good okay let's go for films if you can guess any top five films in 1995 oh uh 1995
i think all my films were all a bit a bit earlier than that so they'd be like 30 dancing pretty
woman which i think are all like 1992 93 that kind of uh 95 was it like the bodyguard or something
like that maybe no but that is a great film okay Okay, so we've got number five, Ace Ventura, When Nature Calls. It's all right.
Okay, yeah.
Number four, Pocahontas.
Never seen it.
Yeah, I always thought
that would have come out earlier.
Number three, Toy Story.
That's a classic.
Yeah.
Number two, Apollo 13.
Now, I feel that was sad.
Was that sad?
Is that like a space,
like going into space?
There was a lot of films
where people did something
in space and people died. There was hundreds of them. Yeah. There was a lot of films where people did something in space and people died.
There was hundreds of them.
There was Apollo 13.
There was Deep Impact.
There was the one with, and I don't want to miss the thing.
That one.
And number one was Batman Forever.
The thing is as well, in those days,
like going to the cinema was kind of a bit of a treat, wasn't it?
So I guess all the films that
you'd watch like in 1994-95 were all things that were like on tv so you know you'd have your VHS
um recorder wouldn't you and what I'd always do I don't know if you did the same was if it was like
a film that I really loved we would take we would obviously tape it and then you'd have to like stop
it and start it wouldn't you when the adverts came on and then sometimes you'd forget and you kind of miss a bit of a chunk
and and then did you do that thing at the end you know if it was like one that you really really
loved and obviously you didn't want your mum to tape over it with emmerdale farm um you put like
sell a tape over the little thing one yeah did you? Did you do that? Yeah. And on my cassettes as well,
you'd be like,
I don't want you to record over the Goonies
or whatever it was.
Yeah.
That's going over the top.
And with the Kino,
I've made a mega mix of Vanilla Ice and Snow in format.
I'm going to put tape over the top of it,
don't record over it.
I don't want any Coronation Street on it.
It was a little hack, wasn't it, in them days?
And it was like,
rather than just like plastering it with all like stickers, do tape over mum blah blah it was like right the little sellotape
trick actually actually does work i did the sellotape trick with stamps i used to put sellotape
over stamps and then they'd get to my friend's house and they'd be able to rub off the like
postage mark thing and they'd reuse this wow oh my god so literally like a free pen pal for life
i feel like i could be jailed for such oh my god better edit that out
they've got barcodes and stuff now it's spoiling our fun okay so where did you grow up when you
were 14 then so i grew up in leeds um a little village called Kipax um in Leeds um where my mum still
lives and um yeah it's literally just down the road from from where I live now so you know a
couple of miles um down the road so what did you have on your bedroom walls were you a maximalist
then yeah well I always used to love um decorating my bedroom and um much to my mum's dismay I think I think in the
90s um in the mid 90s it was all like stars and moons wasn't it that was that was the thing so I
can remember um I can remember having like navy blue walls um with like a gold like with like gold
stars same kind of thing on the ceiling I had like did you have those stars that like were like glow in
the dark so you'd have all those um are these lovely yeah a lot of pine furniture don't get
me wrong you know I want like that cool um but yeah so that was yeah that was me by the gym I
think in the in the 90s prior to that it was all pinks and frills and that kind of thing but yeah
always always had loads of posters and in the 90s it'll
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I think now it'd probably be Gary, but... Well, I'd have to fight you to the death for him because
back in those days it was um probably Howard I think I was never a Mark Farnie was too
too little um so yeah it'll be like Howard or Jason Orange I think back in those days
yeah with all their dancing they were like they didn't do much singing, but they had the moves.
Who else did you fancy?
Did you fancy any movie stars?
Yeah, I fancied all the, all like the Brat Pack, like Rob Lowe.
Oh, yeah.
The Karate Kid.
I don't even know his name.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I feel his name begins with an R.
People at home will be shouting now,
but I can't remember what it is.
Don't message me if you can remember the name of Karate Kid.
No, I can't remember the name.
Oh, but I loved, so my favourite film was The Goonies,
and I absolutely just loved, like, Corey Feldman.
Corey Haim was, like, a massive, like,
Corey Haim was probably, like, my number one.
But, yeah, literally, everybody, was like a massive like Corey Haim was probably like my number one um but yeah literally everybody
everybody that was in a film or on tv was like yeah fair game I've started watching um the John
Hughes films with my 13 year olds they're like Pretty in Pink, Breakfast Club and all that lot
such great films they are great I mean there's a few interesting plot lines that now i'm like
not entirely sure about that but i was saying i loved andrew mccarthy when um i was younger i
loved him and i'm and you look at him now and you're like it's very they're very interesting
yeah we just fancied them because they were famous and they were on do you think
yeah there's a show coming out soon about where Andrew McCarthy goes and visits
everybody from the Brat Pack.
So he goes and visits Rob Lowe and he goes and visits Demi Moore.
He talks about it.
So I think I'm going to quite,
I'm looking forward to watching that.
Amazing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I've just been like going back and watching,
watching some like nineties,
nineties films and quite a lot of the time I've been kind of like watching
stuff for like the
interiors as well so um one of my favorites i don't know if you've seen it is troop beverly hills
oh my oh my god you've got to watch it it's literally the best so it's basically it's
shelly long yeah and um she's like this bored housewife in beverly hills like super rich you
know she's just on rodeo drive doing a shopping
every day and um and basically she takes over this um this basically like the girl scouts kind
of thing um of america takes over the beverly hills um section and literally it's just the
funniest thing ever so like they go camping and it starts raining so she basically like checks them all into the beverly hills hotel and like they get room service and it's just like
this all the way i'll have to watch it oh god and the interiors obviously i'm just like drooling
because it's like it's proper like 80s early 90s you know like all the like the palm trees and
loads of pink and marble and i'm just like like literally just take me there I just
want that yeah I love that when we're watching pretty in pink I said because everyone was like
god that bedroom the girls got in the uh Molly Ringwood oh and I was like I would have loved
that bedroom with the little phone in and like the funny hats and all beads and like she had
like lace gloves I was like oh my god it's just like yeah it's like oh no mom it's too much okay
what kind of music you into did you just love boy bands or did you like all types of music
um do you know what I was I wasn't really into music really in them days at all like
obviously like I'd listen to basically the top 40 that was that was my you know that was all my
kind of like musical prowess really so I'd always listen to the top 40 I would always record the top 40 um and then just pick out
pick out the ones that I loved um and then just literally listen to them on repeat until I went
off them yeah so yeah I used to listen to them and write down the lyrics or read the lyrics off
smash it and learn them all I absolutely loved it and you know when you used to like buy a cassette
and they had the lyrics in you'd be like my God, this is like the best thing ever.
In really tiny fonts that I definitely couldn't read nowadays.
I'd be like, oh, I can't read the bottle of shampoo now.
I'd be like, oh.
Yeah, no, I loved it.
And then you'd do it all neat, wouldn't you?
And then you'd realise that there were like a few wrong
and you'd be singing them wrong.
And then that's it.
Once you sing it wrong a few times
you can never sing it right can you that's it for the rest of your okay so what kind of school did
you go to and where were you in the hierarchy so I went to a catholic school called St Wilfred's so
it's just in Featherstone so like kind of like a mining mining town really um not it was like about 45 minutes
actually on the school bus which was quite a long way but my dad had gone to that school so that's
why we kind of went and it was always good for like grades and in terms of the hierarchy I was
just a total and utter middle of the roader so I wasn't in the geek gang I wasn't in the cool gang
me and my pals were just like middle of the roaders.
And actually, that's probably works for your favour,
I think, actually, at school, doesn't it?
Because, you know, pressure, pressure at the top,
pressure at the bottom.
But I think if you're kind of like middle of the road,
then it's kind of, you know, you just kind of, yeah,
the average Joe.
Just keep your head down and just yeah just survive every every
day um you're all though you're sorry i absolutely loved school though like that was like a real
like super happy time for me like it like in my junior so i can remember in my junior school um
i i started a little bit later so all my pals had started
like in the infants
I started in junior one
so I don't know how old you are in junior one
are you like five or something like that?
and I can remember on my first day at school
I can remember what I was wearing
and everything
I had like a little dog tooth
pleated skirt
a little white blouse
with like a little black
little black bow at the collar so I was
looking cute and um and I can remember the on my very first day going around like going around the
table and everyone was going who's your best friend who's your best friend and I was thinking
well I've only just started so I'd really got one and my best friend to this day Kat said Siobhan
Murphy's my best friend and that was literally on the very first day of my school
and we've been you know we've been best friends ever since um so that's always so lovely it's
like a Netflix film so I've got um so like obviously I'm in my 40s now 45 but I've got
like five mates that went through that that we went through school together.
So, sorry, juniors, high school, obviously, you know, college and uni,
you kind of all go off and do your own thing.
But yeah, we're just tight.
We're just tight as ever.
But yeah, I absolutely loved school.
I mean, high school obviously was a bit different because, you know,
I guess in junior school, you're kind of like a big fish in a small pond,
aren't you, where it's a bit of a difference when you get to high school and I think because it was
kind of a quite a wide catchment area there were people from all over and because we were traveling
like 40 minutes on the school bus like a lot of our pals were like dotted around you know like in
different areas really so it wasn't just like you, going to a high school where you live, like, in the same village or town.
But it was great.
I loved school.
It was...
Oh, I'm glad.
You showed me your diaries.
You showed me your diaries.
Is there anything you...
Hold the diaries to the camera,
because I'll put a little clip on social media.
So this is...
I don't even know what date this is.
So I think this is...
Look at this little cutie.
This is is 1991.
And it starts with, so it's got Forever Friends.
Of course, classic.
Took that in, which is lovely.
And basically it starts with Boys I Love.
And they are Glyn Clareworth, Andrew Lynch and Liam Riley.
Do you know any of them?
Are you Facebook friends with any of these boys?
No.
Am I?
They're probably in prison.
But I've got a little, on the first page as well,
there's like a lovely little picture of some green kickers that I bought.
Do you remember kickers?
Yeah.
So it says latest fashion craze kickers.
And there's some pictures.
So I've got some lovely green suede kickers.
And then at the bottom it says, I got my Levi's on Saturday,
£37.99, 501 red tag.
And I've actually done the little Levi's red tag,
little picture of that too.
£37.99 too so 37.99
37.99 in them days it'd have been about 100 quid wouldn't it oh my gosh they were they were pretty
dear yeah but look i mean there's just so much i mean this is obviously this is obviously before
i started like any kind of like real like fashion uh interest but i've got like what i wore to alton towers so i've got
pairing rags question mark so obviously i was going for a bit of a curly um a curly thing
adidas t-shirt mum's brown belt question mark obviously i was gonna have to ask her to borrow
that levi's 501s and the kickers um so yeah so what i'll be carrying i also got what i'll be carrying here
oh i love it here a drink sarnies sweets and a camera oh yeah because you wouldn't have had a
phone you would it would have been a disposable camera or would it been like a little yeah total
yeah total disposable so it's so interesting because my daughter's going to walton towers
um this week
on a school trip and you know what she's planning the exact same thing with her friends she's
planning the outfits she's planning what she's going to take so even though you know obviously
we're like 30 years older it the universal truth of teenagers just is the same isn't it
absolutely of course it is and it's all about like know, wearing the trendiest stuff, isn't it?
Yeah.
People are going to be sat with who on the bus, you know.
Yeah, she's so excited.
Did you keep a diary every year?
Do you still keep a diary now?
I love it.
No, I don't keep a diary anymore.
But I've still got, I was kind of having a little rummage this morning.
I found my Garfield diary from 1991.
Love it. rummage this morning i found my garfield diary from 1991 again i mean i thought i was kind of a
bit more of a like a well-rounded individual but literally every single entry is about um
is about boys um oh apart from this some new year's resolutions are from one um so number one write diary so smashing obviously two diet i mean that's quite bad isn't it so
that's a shame how old were you maybe 91 you'd have been like 10 or something
oh bad in eight how bad and then number three stop biting my nails classic um but yeah literally like every single again more every single like page is who who i'm
loving glenn you're loving glenn boys all the boys in order there's never even just one it's like
there's usually like four or five and they're all in order oh this is cute though um got a debbie gibson tape um me today um and the immaculate collection
i cannot wait madonna is my favorite pop star because she does unusual stuff um
oh what's it say here she is the best six out of ten oh i've actually like started scoring my um
scoring my days here as well.
So that was a six out of ten.
The next day is youth club, which got ten out of ten,
so I must have kissed them both.
Do you still love Madonna 9?
Yeah, well, she's kind of gone off recently,
hasn't she, a little bit?
But, yeah, I mean, she just absolutely, she was just my icon
back in those days.
And I think what I loved
about her is
she was always different
once she was always
reinventing herself.
So it was always new.
So,
you know,
like the Like a Prayer video
where she's all like
the dark hair
and then,
you know,
like just,
yeah,
it was just exciting,
I think.
I loved the music,
obviously,
but I,
yeah,
I think it was that whole like visual thing for me, that reinvention, which I think I love the music obviously but I yeah I think it was that
that whole like visual thing for me that reinvention which I just think she's amazing like I went to
see her in the tour recently we went we were there the opening night I just think she's yeah I just
think she's amazing and then you look you go on TikTok and you see the comments like you know
sit down old lady or whatever so oh my god she's, my God, she's like an icon, man. She's like nearly 70.
She's dancing around, like back off.
Yeah.
She's not nearly 70, is she?
She's got to be.
She might even be.
Let me have a look.
Let me have a little look.
I got this wrong before and one of the Madonna fans got cross at me,
so I don't want to get it wrong again.
Madonna. Can you remember when that In Bed With Madonna came out?
Oh, that was rude.
Oh, my God.
And it was all black and white, wasn't it?
Yeah.
But can you remember in that, like, my takeaways from that were
she just ate spinach, didn't she?
Was it spinach or cabbage?
So she sat on the sofa with her dancers, like, looking gorgeous,
and literally she is just eating, she's just eating spinach.
And I just think she looks great.
But as she like, as she had fun, like as she had like a fun life.
I remember once reading an article where it was like,
for a treat, I have salted popcorn.
And I thought, that ain't a treat.
That's breakfast.
She's 65 65 not 70
so I was ageing you up Madonna
if you're listening I'm sure you are
I'm sorry she's 65 she's still gay
you are known online for your fabulous fashion
did you have any fashion faux pas
back in the day that you were like I would never wear that now
I mean
shell suits I was addicted I that name I mean shell suits I was
addicted I was actually addicted to shell suits I absolutely loved a shell suit and why I mean
literally they were probably like the most ugliest most uncomfortable sweaty thing ever aren't they
but they were just really big and I just can remember like thinking right every time I was
going to the youth club which was on like a Tuesday night I was kind of like right okay what
am I going to wear like what what shell suit am I going to pick out so shell suits shell suits also
with sweater shop jumpers by sweater shop I mean yeah you're the first person to have mentioned
sweater shop you deserve an award when people mention stuff that I've forgotten the sweatshop
because we've had Benetton we we've had Naf Naf.
The sweater shop is another all the same ilk, yeah.
Oh, my God, the sweater shop.
Why was that so big?
And I can remember, like, even, like, you know,
when you were doing games and stuff, like, if you brought a bag,
it had to be, like, a sweater shop bag or, like,
a body shop bag or something, didn't it?
But, yeah, they wear, like, shell suit bottoms
with the sweater shop
jumpers and i mean you can imagine you can imagine like the kind of gross fabrics combination going
on at you so you've got like the shiny nylon of the shell suit bottoms then you've got more acrylic
crunchy stripy sweater shop jumper i can I can remember them sweater shop jumpers.
They were 1999.
Can you remember that?
I would have got stuff from the market.
So I would have, not only would I have had a sweater or a shell suit,
but it would have been a market one.
So we're talking full flammable.
If you knew I was in a cigarette, which you were in the 90s,
because everybody was
smoking I would have literally set aflame yeah exactly well well the market version of can you
remember the market version of NAFNAF was NAFCO 54 of course NAFCO 54 because I actually I mean
I was quite spoiled as a kid so not not by my mum my mum was like a single mum. But my grandparents always spoiled me with everything.
So if I wanted something.
And I can remember going into Leeds.
And there was this little boutique in the Victoria Quarters.
And it sold all the naff naff jumpers.
And they were so expensive.
I can remember.
Then they were maybe like 60 60 70 quid which is a
hell of a lot I mean it's a lot of money now in it for a sweater so like going back in them days
and I can remember one day I was in in town with my gran and um anyway I saw this jumper and it
was like the one you know where it's got all the um what's it called so it's got like all the like
embellishments you know like so like fuzzy letters yeah like
like sticking out it was like and it was blue oh my god I love that jumper and I think it had
something like 20% off so it was like 50 quid and my gran was like do you want it and I was like
can I have it and it was like the best thing ever and I used to wear it every day like over me um
under my blazer over my shirt for school and then literally I just had to obviously take it off
when I got to school.
But I can remember one at Lads on the school bus
one saying, oh, that's not even real, that's fake.
And I was absolutely gutted because I was like,
no, it definitely is real because...
This isn't NAFCO 54, this isn't Spliffy or NAFCO 54.
This is Naf-Naf.
I think it was like a French brand
it's still going
yeah
when I was in
when I was in Spain
when I was in Malaga
the other week
I saw
I saw some Naf Naf
and I was like
is this still a thing
I didn't even realise
yeah
you need to get it
I'm not sure
I'd look very good
in a Naf Naf
sweater
anymore
I definitely wouldn't
look good in a shell suit oh god not anymore i definitely wouldn't good in a shell
suit oh god not shell suits but i'll tell you what i also was a massive fan of back in the day
dash you remember dash the dash like track suits and jumpsuits you win another award because dash
has not been mentioned before so dash i've got visions of like was was it a signet? What was the logo?
It was kind of like written, wasn't it?
Like a kind of like a signature.
And again, that was super expensive.
And again, I can remember my gran taking me to the Dash shop in Wakefield.
And I literally got like an all in one.
So it was like, you know, before jumpsuits were kind of trendy.
And it was like lilac and purples
and it was absolutely gorgeous.
And it was 55 quid.
And I remember thinking,
this is really, really expensive.
That's really expensive.
It was gorgeous.
I wore that to death,
to absolute distraction.
And it was so cool
because it had like a bit of a puffy kind of sleeve
and obviously like a big zip off.
And literally I just put that on and thought,
I can rule the world in this dash jumpsuit like this is i believe i forgot it i feel it was a lot
of pale colors like pinks and purples and yeah yeah it was like baby blues like really it was
really good quality stuff um but yeah i don't know what happened to Dash. I wonder if that's still going.
I don't think it is.
I obviously never had anything from there.
I was in my NAFCO 54 in my market,
my fake bros jumper with them, like, cartoon faces,
and they were, like, they'd been burnt in a fire
because it was all, like, drawn by a guy.
I don't know.
I don't know what it was, like, drawn by.
Were you on a bros set then?
Do you know what?
I loved them. I loved bros loved i was a brossette um
i was still angry that my mom and dad never let me have bottle tops on my shoe
never had a bottle top on my shoe and and i'm still lie awake at night thinking if only they'd
let me have a bottle top on my shoe yeah have a match the ripped jeans though and the like the leather the leather jacket kind of jeans i had a bandana
that i like wore around my neck oh my god i've got this cute picture of me somewhere i'll try
i'll put it on stories if i can find it i'm like in a fake bros t-shirt where they look all like
like a fringe cut by my mom and i've got like a red bandana and i'm my mom actually did take me
to see them and i'm holding the the badge and i've still got the badge the bros global the
bros global push badge and i'm looking oh that's amazing i've still got the program upstairs and
everything i just love them so much they were so they were so good i've always i've always loved
a boy band me oh and thing is
like sentimental things like that you just can't get rid of can you like because that badge will
hold like so many like cool like memories and everything it's gone from house to house to house
i always look at them like nope put the broth yeah
i've got a blue peter badge as well for my friend katherine wickington
she gave it to me when we were like 12
that's in there as well
she gave you her blue Peter badge
she was one of those people that had
about 5 because she wrote in
lots of times so she gave me one
and it's upstairs
I mean that's like precious
a precious thing in them days wasn't it
I bet you treasured
oh yeah Kathleen Whleen whittington
was great we went to see jurassic park together we were like oh good she's a head mistress now
we were firm friends okay so um what do you think um your favorite ever fashion item then that you'd
wear now would it be the jumpsuit oh my gosh yeah 100 that dash that dash jumpsuit i mean
if i had it and i could still get into it I'd be rocking
it now totally it even had like a collar you know like that kind of like a little bit oh lovely um
I want to talk first Snogs who where was it you don't have to say the name but I'm always
grateful if you do where was it how was it how old are you well oh god i don't know about first i don't know
i probably need to have a look in some of these diaries for my first one um it will have been
it'll have definitely been at oh do you know what actually i probably do kind of remember
so um it'll have been in juniors in junior one. We were all real smitten with a guy called Chris Snee.
Chris Snee, what am I saying?
He's a lovely chap.
And he was little and he had like curly,
like a bit of a curly hair going on, loads of little freckles.
And he was just cute and he was just really, really funny.
So I can remember one day, we were in this little...
I can't remember even what it was now.
It wasn't like a library,
but it was in this extra little room in school.
And there was a few of us.
And I don't know what we were playing,
but it ended up that you would snog people.
It would be like spin the bottle,
but it would be like spin the pen or something like that.
And,
and yeah,
so I had a few little snogs with,
it was always Christy and John Ox to be there.
They were always my little snogging partners.
There was always the one boy that everybody fancied,
wasn't there?
There was always the one,
we had one,
he was called Mark that everybody just absolutely
yeah just idolized he had slightly curly floppy hair yeah brown curly floppy hair and then i guess
when i was like i don't know like 14 15 it was like any lads that had curtains and that used a
bit of sunning like literally that, that would be my dream.
If they had curtains and there was, like,
a little bit of a blonde orange tinge to the hair,
then, you know, then I was... Gorgeous!
Like Leonardo DiCaprio in Titanic.
That's what you want.
Floppy hair with a bit of blonde in.
With a Yorkshire version.
OK, what was your biggest teenage flop back then you look back on your oh no oh so what do you mean like flop like something that's like
happened that was like oh that's uh yeah maybe you fell out with a friend or you did think there
was a bit daft you think oh god i really regret that i'll tell you what we used to do which is
absolutely bonkers and it's probably one of the reasons why i never had kids
because i just think god like all the stuff that we used to get up to so we're just getting cars
so like literally we'd be on the street on the street on the mean streets kippax and um young
lads would like be driving past and you know like anyway lads would pull up you'd get in the cars
and then you just go on like we were thinking like we don't know these lads like we don't know
if this car is stolen or like this could be anyone and we just think it was the funniest thing and i
remember once we got into this car and um obviously the lads will have been a bit older than us because you know they were driving well you'd expect to license and um and we drove down so um we lived in a village but like literally
you drive like two minutes out and you're in the total countryside and they were driving down these
country lanes and they switched the lights off on the car so they were literally driving down fast
with no lights like literally
it was just absolutely bonkers we thought it was the funniest thing ever like we're just like we're
like rolling around like the back seat laughing like in the pitch black thinking this is like a
game and then like looking back you're just like what's happening i mean it's terrifying yeah but
i mean imagine just like even getting in somebody else's car.
It's just crazy, isn't it?
I've told this before on here, but I went to Newquay on a girls holiday
when I'd finished secondary school.
So it was like girls, like 16, 17, 18.
And we got in a van, a van, even scarier, because murderers always have vans.
Don't ever get into a van, people.
Don't ever get into it.
Well, we got into a van with all these lads,
and they came back to the little, like, place we were staying in.
It was fine, you know, we managed to get rid of them, whatever.
Then we put our photos in to develop in an hour in the last day.
So last day, we all took the photos.
Oh, take the disposable cameras with you.
How exciting was it getting your photos developed?
Got the photos developed.
The photos were really fit.
And then you get them developed and you'd be like, oh, my God,
what a bunch of mingers.
Worse, they put our toothbrushes up their bum holes and took photos of it.
No.
That's so bad.
So there was photos of the boys smiling at the camera with our toothbrushes
by their bums.
I mean, it can't have been too graphic because it wouldn't have made it through the phone and we'd be cleaning our teeth
was it actually like the brush end as well near the foot so it must yeah i just remember us
looking at them and all like kind of, but luckily we probably hung over.
So we just laughed, but.
Oh my God.
They're terrible boys.
Killed us.
I think we got let off ease to be honest.
Actually literally murdered us.
So I think a toothbrush at the bum was like the least of our problems.
Okay.
What was the biggest big teenage success that you think?
Yes.
I smashed that.
I think passing my GCSEs um because I was I mean I guess I was pretty bright but I never tried and you know like exams and stuff was just not really my strength because it's all like memory
isn't it and um so I'd always be like really really good in class but from like a memory point of view it wasn't always that great um so yeah i actually
like really like smashed all my gcses which was a massive massive surprise because i didn't do
very well in the what's it called you know the ones that you do before like the box yeah so i've
done a bit shit in them and then um and then basically yeah just and I think I just couldn't believe that I'd kind of
done well like you know it was kind of a bit of a a bit of a miracle really um so yeah that was um
I think that was probably like a big a big achievement because like school school work
wasn't a priority you know it wasn't in them at all so and any any kind of learning really I
wasn't really that fussed about so so yeah and then that kind of learning really I want really that fussed about so
so yeah and then that kind of made me think all right actually yeah I'll go to college and blah
blah and you know it kind of spurred me on a little bit to to do some more stuff more education
um brilliant yeah so if you could um go back and tell Siobhan something what would you say to her I would I think I was quite shocked
actually you know when um I found that diary entry saying diet that's horrible yeah and I think now
I think you know like I guess back in those days it was we never saw anybody that was like a bit
chubby or a bit different to us because in every single magazine on the tv
like every kind of social kind of outlet that we had or like on the media in films etc everybody
looked a certain way didn't they like everybody was thin model like um you know certain size all
that kind of thing so you kind of thought and then you know obviously like certain size, all that kind of thing. So you kind of thought, and then, you know,
obviously, like in the, in the late 80s, and the 90s, there was this massive diet culture as well,
wasn't there? I can remember, like, my mom always been on like the Cambridge diet, and doing all
the calonetics, and all that kind of stuff. And it was like, you know, obviously, like fitness and
health is important, of course it is, but it was kind of like rammed down your throat that if you didn't look a certain way you were less of a person I guess so I think if I
was going back um and basically having a word with my younger self it would be to like literally give
less shits about your your body and just enjoy you know and just enjoy yourself more because
I guess back in those days as well I'd always be thinking oh if only I and just enjoy yourself more because I guess back in those
days as well I'd always be thinking oh if only I was just like and I mean I want even that I
want like massively fat or anything um I was just you know a bit on the chubby side but I'd always
be thinking god if if only I was a bit thinner if only I could lose this like stone you know like
it was always kind of that and and I think also like I kind of dressed accordingly sometimes to
that as well you know certainly when I was um you know like going out and stuff with friends
I think I'd always like you know I'd always be the one that think I'd have to cover my arms or
you know that kind of thing where now look it's just arms we've all got you know a bit of bingo
wings and stuff going on it doesn't actually matter no one's even looking who cares um so yeah I think I can
remember like being about 18 and one summer I think I just started uh I've just been at college
for a little while I was at fashion college and um and literally one summer I just I didn't starve
myself but I was eating a lot of salad basically and nothing nothing else and I can't I can remember going back to college
and I must have been like I don't know maybe like a couple of stone lighter and oh my god like I
just felt like so different do you know what I mean it was well I think it was because I was
being treated differently as well you know like that kind of thing but I was so so I was so like
self-conscious and I can work when I was working at Harvey Nichols in the 90s,
in the late 90s, 96, I think it was, when it first opened.
And I was about a size 12.
I was about 10 and a half stone.
So I was thin.
Slim, yeah.
Really slim.
But I've never been so self-conscious of my body.
It was just actually ridiculous. And I think if I'd have said you know if somebody said to me then at like 18 you know you're going
to be like a size 22 when you're 45 I'd have killed myself I'd have been like no absolutely
no way because to me that was huge you know that was big and um and yeah and you know what I mean
I did some so many dangerous things like i would um
i'd like not so if i was going out that friday night or whatever i'd be at work
and i wouldn't eat anything all day long and i'd actually take these tablets that were like
water tablets that would um basically just make you wee so that my stomach was flat like how
ridiculous and then you're going out drinking alcohol so
imagine how like dehydrated yeah anyway just such dangerous things so yeah I think if I was
if I was going back I'd definitely be saying you know just be comfortable you know in your own
skin like literally be healthy you know as healthy as you can but you know don't don't sweat it as
much as you don't worry so much yeah it was different
different time then are you glad you grew up then or do you wish you were growing up now oh my god
me and my friends when we get together and we've had a few drinks we always say the same thing
because they've got kids as well so I don't have any children but they've all got kids and um and
it like you know like the stuff that we that we talk about and the stuff you know like, like the kind of different, the different kind of stresses, you know, the phones and the social media and all this kind of stuff and the technology nowadays, which is great a lot of the time.
But, oh, my gosh, I think it's just too much.
I think, you know, like we lived in a time or grew up in a time where you know it was much more of a simple kind of life
you know like obviously I think I got my first mobile phone when I was like 17 or 18 so you know
it was just always like you know if you're meeting your mate right I'll see you there at 10 blah
blah and you'd just be there like it wasn't like loads of like backing and back and forth on the on the messages or
anything and um and yeah it was just you just went out well i think didn't you just went out and you
know and did stuff rather than you know see kids now and they're just like they just want to be in
the bedrooms like playing games or chatting to the friends on on a phone rather than actually
just chatting like actually in real life so
yeah i think oh my god i'm so happy that i was you know grew up like in the 80s and 90s because
yeah it was just it was just fun times one times with teeth bushes at bums and getting in vans
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